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Although CE kinda sucks, it's also nice since the same people have been using it for over a decade now
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

What an asshole
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Squall28 posted...

IllegalAlien posted...

Sample statistics give different information about the sample. IDK why anyone wants the variance over say the median, but w.e.

Because my complaint was the ability of the test to distinguish high achievers.

I'm going to be honest with you, I didn't even pretend to read the paper.

Were the distributions similar conditioned on gender? Variance? Shape? What about not conditioned on gender? Do the scores skew more when conditioned on either gender?

Did they provide this info, or just a small table. Nature/Science is very terse and the absolute top for academic publications so it could be the case that data was omitted for the appendices. Also very possible that a previous, longer, study by the same group is published.
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COVxy posted...

IllegalAlien posted...

Sample statistics give different information about the sample. IDK why anyone wants the variance over say the median, but w.e.

Yeah, but not more information than seeing the entire distribution.

There's literally nothing better than the distribution if it's in a space that can be visualized, so I agree.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Sample statistics give different information about the sample. IDK why anyone wants the variance over say the median, but w.e.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

ITT:
>Poor, middle school level understandings of statistics
>Poor logical conclusions drawn from the findings
>Culture doesn't exist!!!!!

Results of the paper are not surprising. They posed a hypothesis, tested it, posted results. They may be methodological shortcomings in their experiments, but picking some bullshit like "n is too small" when it's clearly a fine size is embarrassing.
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Here's a tutorial: https://machinelearningmastery.com/how-to-develop-a-word-level-neural-language-model-in-keras/

He gets some compelling sentences from Plato or something: "preparation for dialectic should be presented to the name of idle spendthrifts of whom the other is the manifold and the unjust and is the best and the other which delighted to be the opening of the soul of the soul and the embroiderer will have to be said at"

If you download Anaconda package for Python you can run this code and it will work.
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I would make an educated guess that a tri-gram language model for something like all the Harry Potter books would split out a few good sentences if not cohesive paragraphs. This is w/o deep learning, so it's the old-school passe way to do it.

A fun project might be to write a web scraper/logger for CE, scrape all posts/titles, then create a chatbot alt and see how well it does ;)
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SpinKirby posted...

IllegalAlien posted...

Let's do an example. Say we're fitting a unigram language model on the corpus "I like to like posts from people I like duh".

Then the model is:
p("I") = 2/10
p("like") = 3/10
p(everything else) = 1/10

To generate a sentence sample a single word at a time. This might become: "like like posts duh I like" which has probability .3 * .3 * .1 * .1 * .2 * .3

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Obviously this is pretty naive, but this is the basic idea behind it all :)

I know almost nothing about coding, but I've coded enough to know a little above nothing.

And that little nothing isn't sufficient at all, but it's just good enough to plant the seed of doubt.

I doubt these posts. I doubt them until I see the code for myself, which I will not be able to understand.
Your explanation is sound, but I doubt it's what is being used.

It's staged.

Haha some of them might be staged, especially on YouTube or w.e for views/likes. It depends on how large the corpus is, and how many assumptions you make. It is a fact that the current frontier of language modelling is pretty impressive but these are deep neural networks and are relatively advanced ones at that.
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Haha it's not often someone posts about something I'm knowledgeable about on these boards
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Let's do an example. Say we're fitting a unigram language model on the corpus "I like to like posts from people I like duh".

Then the model is:
p("I") = 2/10
p("like") = 3/10
p(everything else) = 1/10

To generate a sentence sample a single word at a time. This might become: "like like posts duh I like" which has probability .3 * .3 * .1 * .1 * .2 * .3

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Obviously this is pretty naive, but this is the basic idea behind it all :)
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A more sophisticated method uses deep learning to model the language. At a high level it's not much different, the same ideas are simply implemented using a Recurrent Neural Network architecture.
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There are a few ways to do this. The simplest is to create a "language model", which can be fit on the text corpus.

To simplify a bit; essentially you declare the expressivity of the "n-gram" model, where n is the length of the sequence. For a "unigram" model, we simply count the relative frequency of the word w.r.t. the total number of words in the document (Maximum Likelihood Estimation or MLE). For a "trigram model" we count sequences of three words "I like eggs", etc.

Then each n-gram has an associate probability distribution. You sample the first word, then condition the next word based on the last. In the unigram case each sampling is IID. In the trigram case the probability factors as p(x_3 | x_2, x_1). If the arithmetic doesn't work out (for example the first word doesn't have two previous words), you just condition on NULL or some special symbol, equivalently, you have a unigram, then bigram, then you can start doing trigram.
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tag
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

A lot of these posts are cringy af but also funny
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

-yawn-
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IslamMD posted...

--Zero- posted...

You're gonna listen to every one of them huh

COVxy posted...

Idk what's weirder, his obsession of recording these things or you actually listening to them.

I haven't listened to the full video. And did not make a tl:dw for it. I know the summary since Dawkins said he was gonna make a phone dump.

Make a tldr
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

I honestly don't know anyone that had a plan going into college follow through with it. Like, sure there are the kids who want to be a doctor and do "pre-med", but personally I didn't see anyone complete that.

I sure as fuck didn't know what I wanted to do or study when I was 18.
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sigh
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

What a shit topic
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Moved from Long Island to Denver. Got 2 publications in top tier conferences. Awarded my MS in CS. Pretty busy I guess.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

IQ is a bullshit metric for intelligence. Increasing or decreasing your magic number amounts to jack shit tbh.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Also it's way easier to have a high IQ when you're young.

"Gifted" programs recruit at over 130 IQ, but the people are tested when they're in first grade or so. Everyone who was in my "gifted" program is surely not a genius, and academic success is more likely attributed to the fact that we were sequestered and told we're the smart kids...
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CS is the one true patrician subject.
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xyphilia posted...

Who's to say what modern science thinks a t-Rex looked like is even true? I'm pretty sure it's all hogwash and they're just pulling the whole small and feathery thing out of their ass.

"Why should I trust scientists when my childhood movies already showed exactly what it looks like?????"
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Howl posted...

The irony is that people laugh about the question, but the literal answer is no he doesn't have any evidence. He just made an extreme accusation about somebody without any evidence whatsoever and people just laugh about questioning him on it. This is a perfect display of the logical reasoning skills of people here tbh.

This is ironic.
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I know minimum wage was going to $15 on LI, so I'd assume it's already $15 in the city.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

It is NYC after all.
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

GiftedACIII posted...

All I'm pointing out is how you're always a miserable person.

No, you're claiming I had a bad childhood because I'm not emotionally invested in a toy retailer. When in reality a person like that is more likely to have infantile interest and behavior as an adult because they feel like they missed out on it as a child.

I hope you understand what projection means now.

Damn
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A topic about fast food somehow derailed into a tipping topic. lmao
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

You know... in a high cost of living area food costs more as well...

When I was living on Long Island a single meal after tax would be close to $10-12 at any fast food place.
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DarkProto05 posted...

How do you guys condone this? Shit talking deserves an ass beating?

The grown man approached him first. You don't get to act like a savage because of name calling.

If you've ever taken mass public transit some people really deserve to get the shit beat out of them...
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

That's why I always carried a blade on me in NYC.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

You're that ghetto asian girls guy right? wb
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Like, the difference in quality of life is astounding.

Not only does 1800/mo get me a 2BR in the yuppiest place in the planet, but people aren't constant assholes.

The only thing that I miss is the food and having some racial/cultural diversity.
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

I just moved from Long Island (Stony Brook) to Denver. Man. Long Island fucking blows, NYC is a shithole, and FUCK NJ.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

IllegalAlien posted...

Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/cotton-picking.html

Literally not racist. This is what happens in 2018 where everyone immediately pulls out the race card and race bait and feel the need to white knight everything: they forget to think critically and they sure as Hell dont do any research on what they are white knighting. It ends up, in this case, making a person look foolish by getting upset over nothing. I mean, come on people.

Why are mods so complacent with allowing obvious alts on this site? If you ban someone, kill the entire IP.

Literally a source that proves you wrong about the origin of the term in question and your argument is to ban speech that shows you were wrong? You cant see the problem with that?

I'm not really arguing with an obvious alt-troll. I'm commenting on the sad state of this board.
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Y2J0_sHBK_Blue posted...

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/cotton-picking.html

Literally not racist. This is what happens in 2018 where everyone immediately pulls out the race card and race bait and feel the need to white knight everything: they forget to think critically and they sure as Hell dont do any research on what they are white knighting. It ends up, in this case, making a person look foolish by getting upset over nothing. I mean, come on people.

Why are mods so complacent with allowing obvious alts on this site? If you ban someone, kill the entire IP.
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3khc posted...

We both initiate at wrong times. Someone is usually not in the mood. Libidos are not in sync.

bro if she in the mood, you in the mood. cmon now
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Denver baby
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

Also, best resources for Scala?
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"Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."

I have an interview in a week for a position using Scala... Last time I did real OO was when I was an intern using C#.

Best resource for OO (polymorphism, composition, interface vs inheritance, static, final, etc) in Java that is somewhat skimmable??
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DarthWendy posted...

foreveraIone posted...

DarthWendy posted...

This is an idiotic generalisation.

^is French. Doesn't actually understand the GOPs nature.

DarthWendy posted...

So that doesn't mean most Americans then, does it.

I think most are against it. Take away the GOP and it would be a vast majority.

It just so happens that I do understand American politics, I have quite some friends in the US, we're talking about stuff a lot. And that statement of yours is INDEED an indiotic generalisation.

And saying "take away the GOP and yada yada". The GOP won, so you can technically assume they represent, if not the majority of Americans, then let's say at least half. "Most" of the remaining ones blablabla. Which means "most" of the remaining half (at best). Most of half still is less than half. I don't see your "majority" of disagreeing Americans there, sorry.

I get it, you're like 15 shitposting on a dead message board. It's cool. Maybe when you're 18 and you can actually vote you may want to educate yourself on, at the very least, how exactly the president is elected.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

Russia is not perfect by any means, but right now Canada is far more of a threat to us than Russia is.

To think that at one point you were a user that posted in math topics and other general intellectual topics. Now I'm going to block you.
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"Progressive Conservative" haha
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