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Depending on what time zone I live in, it may or may not be Tuesday. For some people it's Tuesday night, for others it's Monday night. I never specified where I live. That's my fault.

EvilMegas posted...

I don't understand how this is a problem, honestly.

Sure, I've had sex, but it's not something that you need to do. If you went 46 years without it, why is it emergent now?

To go my entire life without sex? Ridiculousness. There's a reason "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" was made. Because it's a crazy extreme to be 40+ and a virgin.

SpaceBear_ posted...

Do 46 year olds pick people up at bars?

I don't know. I guess I'm gonna be the first.

dedbus posted...

You're a guy so there must have been something about you that you're not letting on. Or you need to be in a healthy relationship where your partner meets you half way or even at all. But of course its all on you.

I was busy with my own problems, and I was unmotivated to have sex with her.

LeetCheet posted...

I've been in a relationship for at least four years now and we still haven't fucked(I'm 28 and still a virgin).

I really want to but can't because she has HPV and she doesn't appear to be that interested in doing it.

It's starting to really stress me out.

Getting laid is hard.

What are you supposed to do for sex then? You sound like my ex, and I sound like your girlfriend. You're stuck in this relationship with someone who just doesn't wanna have sex. You do wanna have sex, so what are you supposed to do?

Ogurisama posted...

Clubs are open Christmas eve?

Oh yeah. I'm not sure where I'm going on Tuesday, but Christmas Eve balls are big in clubs.

Ogurisama posted...

Did TC lose it?
Or still a working progress?

Not until Tuesday.

wwinterj25 posted...

By what's been said in this topic you have not.

Was my relationship too distant?

wwinterj25 posted...

Tinder is "meaningless sex the app". Some folk get more out of it than that sure but as I said I got bored quick. That's enough about me though. You're the one seeking sex at clubs/bars... special sex. I hope your friend is a good wingman or you may have to fuck his girl in a threeway.

I think yours situation is the priority. I've had what you seek, I think. So at the very least, you should experience it too. So if it comes down to us two to receive fate's blessing, you have my permission to go first.

wwinterj25 posted...

I want to meet someone and settle down once I've got my life where I want it to be. I'm not against things that may naturally happen before that but I'm not actively seeking those things right now. I've no interest in meaningless sex as it's just that.

And Tinder is too full of meaningless sex, by what you've seen?

wwinterj25 posted...

I have and got bored quickly. I've done online dating in the past(before dating apps) but it never turned into anything worthwhile. Real life as a starting point is my preference otherwise I don't bother. Mind you I barely bother in real life despite going to bars and pubs often so meh.

Well, I really do feel like Tinder is easier. But like me, you don't want it. What exactly do you want, and why, if I can ask?

wwinterj25 posted...

Tinder certainly isn't for me. If I wanted to get rejected I'd rather get rejected in real life.

Have you tried Tinder?

Smarkil posted...

just fuck a prostitute homie

That's not gonna cut the capocollo.

wwinterj25 posted...

forever alone

Aw, damn it. You hate to see it. I'm sorry. I believe in you though. And I'm Tinder also isn't your bag?

wwinterj25 posted...

*listens intently*

Are you looking too?

wwinterj25 posted...

Oh it is. Much more to life than meaningless sex. Could it be better? Sure but I doubt most folk are 100% happy with their life.

The problem with this is you're wanting to go to a bar to find someone for sex. If this is actually legit you know that's not how one night things work right and chances are that's all you'll get if anything from "chatting up" a random person. I'd even say you need confidence to even be successful in finding a hook up in real life in a club/bar.

One night of fun with a person is all I want. Then another night of fun with someone else. Then a couple of nights of fun with a third person, maybe. 'Cause the dick is so good, I'm a preferred penis in her Big Dick Book. The book is big, not the dick. My dick is small.

wwinterj25 posted...

I've never understood some adults fixation on other folks sex life or lack of. A older or even younger virgin who is a adult could very easy pay for it if sex is all they want and they struggle to get it. Chances are though these folk want more than that. As for cruising for folk to fuck? Don't ask me as I've never even tried that and probably never will.

I'm sorry about my friend. I hope your life is happy, at least.

SusanGreenEyes posted...

Didn't you admit that you're ugly?
The question here is: what do you have to offer women other than your looks?
In other words., what would make a woman decide to sleep with you?

I am ugly, yes. But my friend assures me this will work. I don't think it will, but I might as well try his idea. So I don't know what I offer, if anything.

But suppose I am ugly. Women don't wanna have sex with people they aren't attracted to, I think that goes for everyone. Am I just screwed?

Ogurisama posted...

My only advice, temper expectations
You are acting like it is a sure thing with yout buddy as a wingman, but it isnt. You go in thinking it will happen you will leave feeling depressed

I'm not though, I said early on I don't expect it to work.

LinkPizza posted...

So, we can't help with that. Only people with you can. So, there was no reason to even ask here... So, whatever...

There isn't? If I say "Hey I'm getting ready to try meeting new people in a bar and having sex with them" there's ZERO advice that can be offered?

LinkPizza posted...

I offered alternatives because I thought you just wanted to lose your virginity at first. Since that's what you made it sound like. But that's not what you wanted. I also gave you ways to have trashy bar/club sex, but that's not what you wanted, either. Not in the way that you could have it, at least... But you just want... something else... Or think that's what you want...

No matter what you say, it would literally count as sex. LITERALLY... But like I said, I don't even believe you're a real person, so I don't really care anymore. You're most likely someone's alt... Your account was made last a month. And is probably mostly this topic, if not only this topic... So, it's whatever.

And I'm not frustrated you're not taking my advice. I just wanted to help a person out, but it was just a troll topic/account...

I told you what I want. To be picked in a scenario where it's harder to be picked than on Tinder. If you had alternatives that were that, we'd have another story on our hands. This isn't just about sex, and it's not just about the bar. It's about being picked by a stranger in a particular scenario.

LinkPizza posted...

Technically, the sex would still count. I don't know why it wouldn't...

There are about the same level of spontaneous. You can meet someone on a site or app and be having sex with them within minutes, depending on how close they live.

But whatever. I tried to help, but you don't need our help. Only you friend can really help you. We could tell you 100 things. But without being there, none of it really helps. We can't tell you what to wear because we don't know the girls who would be there. Which is the same reason we can't tell you how to act, what to say, or what you need to look for. If you were looking for sex, I could help. And I gave you adivce. For what you're looking for, you're on your own... Well, you have you friend, I guess...

You keep trying to offer alternatives to sex with night club strangers. If you're frustrated that I'm not taking that advice, you shouldn't be, because you know that I explicitly stated that I'm not gonna do anything but have sex with strangers in night clubs. It's that, or bust.

This is not about sex for the sake of sex. It's about being picked in a situation where it would be unlikely that I'm picked. That's why it doesn't count. I've been picked on Tinder before, what I want is to be picked in a scenario that's harder than that. And I already said that too.

Doompa posted...

Eroge fantasy is made by real people though. Who are also real.

Real people write fiction. We're just talking here.

Doompa posted...

He should watch those harem animes or play those anime porn games. They obviously mimic real life just like this board.

Real people will always be closer to reality than eroge fantasy. Real people are real.

LinkPizza posted...

Yes. Meet a girl on a site or app and invite her to the bar or club. You will LITERALLY be in a bar of club setting if you invite them there. I don't understand what you don't understand about it. You can even role-play and pretend you don't know her. And you can easily go at night. People usually like meeting for sex at night. And based on the information provided, you probably won't be chosen in that environment on your own, so take that for what it is. You also haven't had sex at all. So it should all be special in your mind, if we're being honest... Though, role-play is still an option...

The friend I was mentioning in the second part is about the girl you claimed to be your girlfriend.

It sound like you're not looking for sex. You're looking for something. If this was about sex, you could easier find someone. You want something different, though...

Roleplay??? Ugggghhhhh... no, no, it's gotta be real. And it doesn't count if I know her beforehand. It's not about having sex in a bathroom, it's about having sex in a bathroom with someone I just met in the building that the bathroom is in. Nothing pre-arranged, it has to be spontaneous. Because spontaneous sex with strangers is a lot harder, for me, to come by. And if I could pull off this feat, that would be cool.

So you're kinda right in that I'm not looking for sex for the sake of sex. I'm looking for spontaneous sex with strangers, because of the nature of that kind of thing.

LinkPizza posted...

But keep pretending that this board is better. But then again, you're probably just an alt of a regular...

This board, and any board, is better than a TV because you can't ask a TV questions and get responses.

Doompa posted...

You're right, better to take your hookup lessons from the poll of the day forum on a video game message board.

There are real people that I can talk to on PotD. But TV is fiction.

LinkPizza posted...

Which you could also find online. Some of them might even be online, as well... I don't see how the sex you'll get will be different as 1.) you don't know what kind of sex you'll have with either partner, 2.) You don't even know what kind of sex you like, and 3.) You've never had it.

But you act like having sex with your friend would have been bad because you do it once. And how do you know you'll be able to get girls in a bar or club more than once? Or even once? Especially since you said you were ugly...

It has to be in a bar/club setting. Or really, any setting that isn't specifically about matchmaking. And it has to be done that night. It's not just about the sex. It's about being chosen in that kind of environment. You claim you see bathroom blowjobs as regular as a rainstorm where you go, I just don't see them. So constant bathroom blowjobs are really special in my mind right now.

And sex with my friend? What friend? My ex-girlfriend, or the guy who's gonna wingman me this Tuesday? If you mean the latter, did you mean to word that as "Sex with whoever my friend hooks me up with?"

LinkPizza posted...

That's actually just common sense. Even a child who has seen a tv show could tell you that...

TV isn't real life. That's also advice I've heard. Not to take your hookup lessons from TV.

wolfy42 posted...

Has anyone suggested you write a book and then sell it to a production company so they can make a sequel to the 40 year old virgin? The 50 year old virgin, you just gotta wait a few more years and you could be rich.

And rich I have heard is attractive, so then you'll have tons of girls beating down your doors and you won't be a virgin anymore!!

Problem solved!

That wouldn't work. 40-Year-Old Virgin ends with Steve Carell having sex with Catherine Keener. He's not a virgin anymore.

SusanGreenEyes posted...

Have you considered propositioning your ugly ex girlfriend for sex? She's probably got nothing better going on and clearly neither do you.
Was she also a 40 year old virgin?
Shit! Who knows. Maybe you can fuck her in a bathroom next to the trashcan.

We aren't interested in one another.

wolfy42 posted...

Another thing I have not seen mentioned. Even though I am totally not a club type guy, I have been around forever, and seriously if your hitting bars/clubs, go with friends, even if ti's only one, especially if you have no experience. You'll feel way more confident, you'll have someone to hand out with talk with, and in this case your friend probably won't ditch you for some girl he fancies because he knows your sitch.

I'm aware of that now, that the bar/club scene is better navigated with friends. I still don't see it happening, but people tell me that to go to the bar/club alone is a waste of time. See? This is advice.

LinkPizza posted...

You say sex one time isn't enough, yet that's exactly what you looking for? So which is it?

The kind of sex I'm hopefully about to have, I'd like to have again and again with multiple casual partners, found the night of in bars and clubs.

LinkPizza posted...

But you made it seem like it was super hard, yet you friend thinks it's pretty easy, apparently...

We can't help you with which women you should look out for in a bar or club as we aren't there with you to see them. And I never said to not go to the club. So, there's the word twisting. I said, you can. I said online is easier. But you can meet them at the club. Like I said, you can meet them online to get you dirty club sex that you want.

You said to try Tinder. That's what I mean, that advice doesn't help me. I appreciate it, but I'm not doing Tinder. So when people come by like "Why isn't OP accepting the advice to try Tinder," I'm like, I clearly said I will not try Tinder and the only advice I'm looking for is how to comport myself in the club. Is it really just impossible to give advice for that?

LinkPizza posted...

It sounds like you've tried clubs and bars and they don't work. So, why are you still trying?

So, your friends "knows" this will work (which sounds like he's done it), yet you still think it doesn't happen?

They don't work, because I don't know what I'm doing. With my friend's help, I should know what to do.

LinkPizza posted...

Not really. You're just going to do what you want. You don't want help. You want us to say what you want us to say. We could tell you 10 different things, and you'll pretend like you didn't hear it. That, or you'll twist one thing we said around, and make it sound like we gave you bad advice when it doesn't work...

Yes really, I asked which women I should look out for in a bar/club. You can help with that, can't you? You're right that I do reject your idea of "Just don't go to the club," if that's your idea of help then yeah I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for help in the bar/club scene.

LinkPizza posted...

Burger King? No. A club. Pretty easy, depending on the club. Like I said, I went to a club once where people were just blowing everyone in the bathrooms. And you can just walk into either gender bathrooms, depending on the club. I went to the girls bathroom just to take shots once... You have no right to say it's hard as having sex anywhere seems to be hard for you...

Hold on, where in God's name??? Because I specifically make my roost in bar/club bathrooms. I don't see any of that. Am I just in the wrong part of the country? Are you even in the United States? We're talking about the United States here.

LinkPizza posted...

Next time, just have sex before that spark fades. If you did that, you wouldn't still be a virgin. And it's not a good excuse. Seeing each other just once is enough to have sex. Literally just once. So, no. It's a bad excuse, and you know it.

This isn't about me just not being a virgin, I want a sex life worth having. Sex one time isn't enough. And what do you want from me? Every time we met, neither one of us wanted to have sex. We wanted to do the thing we met up for and then go home.

SusanGreenEyes posted...

If you're truly as ugly as you claim then how do you plan to pick up strange women in public when they have better options?

It's not my idea, it's my friend's idea. He assures me this will work.

Ogurisama posted...

I am really enjoying this topic, TC doesnt seem to want help but just whine.

What do you mean? People are giving me help and I'm accepting it.

wolfy42 posted...

Actually how you dress and look over all is more important than your physical appearance to many women, unless it's an extreme or something. Post a pic if you want and we can have more of an idea.

I don't do casual, never have, so I can't give you advice on random dating, apps etc. I can tell you women both want to have sex and enjoy it as well though, so if you put yourself out there, are not an absolute troll (in looks or attitude) and probably even then to be honest (especially if you go to places where alcohol is involved), you'll find someone. It is a bit harder (or not lol) post 45 or so, your kinda in the limbo between when most people are dating, and senior dating starts. Basically you could just wait to 55 and then you will be young stud in the senior living apartments etc *heh*. I only have 5 years and I'll be in high demand!!!

But I mean what always worked for me was to do things I enjoyed. There will be women doing those things as well (usually...and way more often now than in my day if that thing is video games) and then you can just get to know a few and if your attracted to one, let her know and see where things go.

Doesn't have to be a big deal, and if she isn't into you, no big deal either, you can't be dying to have sex for over 30 years, so don't worry about it too much. IF you want to just get it over with, go to vegas or wherever (Amsterdam?) where prostitution is legal, in fact that is probably a great idea since they probably have alot of experience with similar situations (at least guys in their mid 30's etc).

In the end it's up to you how much effort its' worth if any, or if you even want it to be a part of your life. I've had sex, good sex, and it can be great, it's also good exercise, it helps with depression and it helps bond you with another person and make you closer, more comfortable with each other etc. Even with all that, and the knowledge of how positive it can be etc, I am still not looking for a sexual relationship again. I'm done with it, and since you have not even had sex, you could easily choose the same path. Many people have gone their whole lives without having sex and the is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Picture circa-2006 Jackie Earle Haley. How should I dress? To be what a woman would want?

SusanGreenEyes posted...

First of all, you couldn't meet up enough?! You had 2 years!
Second of all, if you were both as old and ugly as you claim, then who gives a shit?! You could have hooked up with each other and it wouldn't have mattered because it's not as though anyone else was looking for either of you.
In addition, if you're still old and ugly, what makes you think anyone at a bar is trying to have sex with you, since there should be younger and more attractive people there?

What this boils down to is "You're ugly, she's ugly, it was either her or nobody." I know that. But it doesn't mean we have to like it. If her only option is to eat garbage, is she supposed to be excited to eat garbage?

RCtheWSBC posted...

Post pics

Of me? I'm afraid I can't do that.

RCtheWSBC posted...

Sooo what's been holding you back from seeking these thrills over the last like, 5 years?

I don't know how to get them. I've been seeking them, I've been to dive bars, night clubs, fetish parties, Hash House Harriers, everywhere trash congregates. But it's not as simple as rocking up to a random person and saying "Do you perhaps wish to do sex on me?" There's other stuff you have to do, I assume. I assume because I've never done it.

LinkPizza posted...

It's not harder. It's actually quite easy. Some people even have that fetish. And are easy to find on apps/sites. You can even do that in a committed relationship...

It's easy if you post "I wanna have sex in a Burger King bathroom" on Tinder and wait for someone to find you. It's harder to meet someone at Burger King for the first time and find that she's down to have sex in the bathroom. Am I wrong? Are you saying Burger King sex is easier? Without going directly online to people who have that fetish?

LinkPizza posted...

Did you even read what I said? I said we cant help you because we don't know who you'll run into or what they are like. The only person who can help you there is your friend...

You said...

You have to be able to read people out of the limited choice there. And while someone could write you a novel on the subject, might as well just jump in head first. Or waste money taking class, I guess. And you better save up. Youll probably thane to hit someone drinks. And probably multiple people if they still dont want to go home with you because they have an SO, or just dont want to...

That's helpful. That's the advice I'm looking for.

LinkPizza posted...

I barely get to see my SO these days. Yet we still have sex pretty much every time we see each other. Not seeing each other a lot isn't an excuse on it's own. They are right that some details must have been left out or something... And why date if you weren't attractive to each other. Also, if you're unattrative, then picking up people at the club/bar isn't an option for you. So if that's the case, online would be a much better choice. And lack of trying makes it sound like you really don't want to have sex...

I was into it at the time, but like most old people the spark just kinda fades, I guess. But I think "not seeing each other" is a good excuse. I have other things to deal with in my life. I have to wake up early in the morning and go to work. And so does she.

But that part about me being unattractive is sobering. :( But if I really am ugly, why is online a better option than the bar/club scene? Ugly is ugly.

RCtheWSBC posted...

Nah, it's really not a big deal. I say those things because I'm picking up on non-sexual things about you that seem to raise flags >_>

Like, why do you think you didn't try to do those things within your previous relationship?

It was too inconvenient to see her that often. Also, our situation wasn't very interesting or exciting. I need thrills, like trashy, unprotected sex. A committed relationship is super untrashy.

wolfy42 posted...

Well, it can, I don't think it always does, and more then likely it's still affected by sexual activity as well, so if a woman goes through menopause AND doesn't have sex for awhile, it's probably more likely (but I'm not a doctor, and also not a woman).

But you can certainly still please a woman sexually after menopause, and at 46 your not too old to actually date women in their mid 30's and it not feel creepy, which is pretty much their sexual peek, so no worried.

It's funny cause I always wanted to, and never got to do the early dating stuff. I graduated on my 16th birthday and had never been on a date, never got to hold hands, go to movies, my first kiss with a woman was while actually having sex with her. I have always regretted that.

I'm not gonna be 46 forever. 47 is right around the corner. How much of my 40s can be spent putting the bendy banana to women in their "mid 30s?" How much catching up can I possibly do?

RCtheWSBC posted...

Oh god please dude

Again....before you try to jump into a situation, I truly encourage you to explore this from within to make sure you're truly ready. It's difficult to self-reflect, but it can be really helpful to consider what worked and what didn't in previous circumstances in your life.

I'm ready like it's Lemon Crush. But also, it seems a little disingenuous for everyone to be like "Sex is nothing, even something as basic as food is better" but also say "Sex is a big huge thing, make sure you're ready."

SusanGreenEyes posted...

This dude couldn't close the deal with a girl he was dating for 2 years, and he's going to try a bar hookup?!
Basically, it's your goal to be a 47 year old virgin?!?

RCtheWSBC posted...

Yeah I agree with you, something about that explanation was bunk.

OP dated someone from 2015 to 2017 and never fucked. Some deets are missing.

I explained that it was because we couldn't meet in person as often as we liked. Plus, we're both old and unattractive. If anything, it was because of my lack of trying.

wolfy42 posted...

I believe it's through dissuse. I think (again ain't do research) women go through menopause and have less lubrication (naturally, though you can use other lubricants to make up for it), I know many men who have active sex lives into their 80's, so it doesn't just BAM happen, but I think if you are old enough and you stop having sex all together (including self pleasure), then it starts happening. If it concerns you, I would certainly look it up. Also as I mentioned talking to your doctor wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Menopause makes you drier down there. I god damned knew it. I would like to have sex with a woman and satisfy her in ways that get her to self-lubricate. This is just not an option for older women? I mean, a much lesser option? God DAMN IT!

wolfy42 posted...

I mean there is probably another factor here that hasn't been acknowledged. While I have not done research on this, I have heard before that as you get older and stop having sex, everything basically shrivels up and gets smaller.

I can attest myself that while I larger than average by at least an inch through my 20's and 30's, at this point I am probably under average if that. By the itme your 46 if you havenot had sex for awhile (virgin or not), things are probably going to get pretty small, which is going to make any sex fairly difficult.

Now I have never taken pills etc, so all that may reverse such things, and if you become sexually active again, it's quite likely that might help as well. I have no clue, but I would imagine if you don't have sex for over 10 years, your gonna have a hard time (at least as a man, and I'm guessing there are probably similar issues for a woman (Although lube etc might over come thing, I have no clue).

I mean if you still have been having sexy dreams and pleasing yourself etc, then your probably all right, but if its' been at least a few years since you even bothered with that......Well it certainly could be another hurdle and something you should plan for. I would even suggest talking to your doctor about the issue and see if he recommends taking vitamins or pills etc to help.

I have no real interest in having a sexual relationship right now, but if I did develop one, I would certainly have some work to do before hand (probably using my hand lol, and more then likely involving pills as well). Luckily I have lots of experience am great with my hands and other body parts and can use toys etc as well, so I wouldn't have a "hard" time pleasing a woman, but yeah, it would probably take awhile before we could really start having good traditional sex again (no that I am going to meet anyone, I don't socialize anymore and am now a hermit).

Whoa whoa whoa, hold on, are you saying your dick shrinks as you get older regardless, or that your dick shrinks due to not having sex with it? If it's the latter, I'm mad. Hypnoxing should count.

RCtheWSBC posted...

How are you supposed to sus out a woman's character like that at the bar? What an unrealistic ask. Pro-tip: friends confide in friends about their hookups, regardless of sex. Wouldn't you tell your bar-friend about the shit the next day, too? Why would you care what she said to her friends? How would you even know?

I think Doompa is okay with me being told about, just not being made fun of. But I think that's the kind of thing you could just talk about. Like "I'd like tonight to just be between you and I." And gauge the sincerity of their answer from there.

Doompa posted...

When it finally happens I wonder how long you'll last. Make sure it's not one of those shallow girls who will make fun of you the next day to her girlfriends.

RCtheWSBC posted...

How the hell is he supposed to ensure that doesn't happen? lmao

I'm guessing I'm supposed to seek out women of character. They say there are ways to do that, I think that's Doompa's suggestion.

davrick posted...

If you keep waiting for the perfect girl, then you'll stay a virgin for your entire life. Just save up some money and go to a brothel, that's what I did to lose my virginity. The girls working there are all professional sex workers, don't be ashamed to admit you're a virgin and they'll take the lead. Pick the hottest girl, and she'll show you the most "special" way to lose your virginity ;)

That's not special, that's the most unspecial way to lose your virginity. She doesn't want me, it's her job. This is about being wanted so badly that people try to have sex with you in settings where one doesn't typically do that.

LinkPizza posted...

So, you dont really mean meaningful. As meaningful would still be easier on a site. Because meaningful would be like in a relationship. Which is also easier with online help. You just want the challenge instead of something meaningful. But how about practicing running before a race. Having sex on a site of app will get you to lose your virginity, and then you can still go pick someone up at the club or bar afterwards for whatever reason.

Wait, why is what I said not "meaningful?" Some people find meaning in a relationship. I find meaning in sloppy bathroom sex. Because sloppy bathroom sex is harder to have than "committed relationship sex" or "Tinder sex."

SpaceBear_ posted...

I don't even know where to start here.

This.

Providing this isn't a shitpost:

The OP was quite clearly written by a virgin. I never realised that was an actual thing, but my God, you can just tell.

It's not even a bad thing, though. Who cares? Don't force yourself into it just because your 'friend' laughed at you for twenty minutes. You're well on your way to being an incel if you start forcing your way into it at this stage and expecting results.

I'm not being forced to do this, I really do wanna have club sex. I don't expect it to work, but if it can happen, that's great and ideal.

LinkPizza posted...

Either way, none of us can help you if youre set on this bar/club thing. Only your friend can. You have to be able to read people out of the limited choice there. And while someone could write you a novel on the subject, might as well just jump in head first. Or waste money taking class, I guess. And you better save up. Youll probably thane to hit someone drinks. And probably multiple people if they still dont want to go home with you because they have an SO, or just dont want to... Though, I still advise against it as having sex with a drunk person means technically having non-consensual sex... But just do whatever you friend say since hes the only one wholl be there with you. Sounds like hes probably done it before. Which also makes it weird that you havent heard on people doing it if he has...

But that is help. Right there, that's telling me how the bar/club scene tends to play out. That's basically what I came here asking for. Which women I should try chatting up, and how.

LinkPizza posted...

A hook-up at a bar any more special than a app/site. Its not special at all, tbqh... It the same level or meaningless to find a random drunk girl at the bar. Now youre just making shit up...

And many people can. As it happens all the time to non-virgins... Idk why you think its the hardest thing ever to meet someone at a bar for sex. Or why doing that would mean anything... All Im trying to do is help. But you obviously dont want help. Just be youre friends puppet if thats what you want to do and have sex with who he tells you to. Thats what it sounds like you want to do...

I appreciate the help, I'm not dismissing your help, I'm discussing the help with you. I'm trying to help you help me. I want my virginity loss to be meaningful, and you wanna help me make it meaningful, but first I have to lay out what "meaning" means to me.

Bar/club hookups mean a whole lot more to me than Tinder, because they're much harder. I've been to bars & clubs. Not only have I never hooked up at one despite trying, but I don't really see other people hooking up at bars/clubs. Whenever I go to a bar or a club, it's people coming in with groups of friends, and all they do is hang out with those groups of friends. There's no mingling, there's no depraved bathroom sex, none of that fun stuff. So to pull that off, to pull of this rare thing, would be really cool.

You say bar/club hookups are easy and common, but I've never seen one. Not to say they don't happen, but they must be leagues rarer than Tinder hookups. And if nothing else, they're rarer for me. And to do the hard/rare thing means more.

LinkPizza posted...

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And who says its hard to get laid at a bar or club? Answer: No one.

But it is much easier on the app or site. If you were really looking to lose your virginity, youd use that instead of possibly wasting time and money trying at a bar or club when you specifically have a problem with losing you virginity. As you seem to have had a problem with it for the last 46 years, including while in a relationship that lasted for over a year. You can pick up women at a bar, but theres many things that could go wrong. Like you not finding them attractive, them not find you attractive, there being no women who are single (or are looking for another partner), or no women who were going there for sex (which may mean they wont have sex with you because they didnt go out that night for it even if you want to have sex with someone who wasnt looking for it). Theres a possibility you go on a night when barely any women are there. So, you could waste time and money and get nowhere. But an app would most likely waste less time, less money, and have many more choices...

If youre looking for a challenge, then go somewhere like a hospital or police station to try to pick someone up. Not a place where people already go to find hook-ups... (Though, if you get arrested at the police station trying to pick someone up, they may take you to a place where someone might help you lose it...)

Also, if this is what youre really like, its not hard to see why youre a virgin. And not trying to be mean, but you have an easy way to lose it. And wont use it. Yet, it seems like you want to. It seems weird to ask for help. And when people give you an easy way, you say youd rather try the harder way. If you were going to ignore advice and listen to your friend over us, why even ask?

I don't wanna just lose my virginity for the sake of losing my virginity. I want it to be special. Giving it away on Tinder is too easy, too meaningless. But how many can say they successfully navigated a sexual proposal with a random person that night?

LinkPizza posted...

But why? Im asking because that literally makes no sense. Like at all...

Youre doing the same exact thing. Except youre making something harder than it needs to be when you already have a problem doing it. Thats like wanting to go somewhere, but will only take a unicycle as a form of transportation when people are offering cars, bikes, and motorcycles...

Anyone can get laid on Tinder. But if I get laid where it's hard to get laid? What would that mean to, say, you?