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Ace Attorney comes to mind. I bought the 2nd game first. I was kind of intense about the whole story/gameplay and remember deciding I should only play the game on weekends, to give my brain a chance to calm down during the week. I can't say I've had that with any other game since then, including more recent Ace Attorney games. Nothing against them it's just the whole idea was new at the time, and also it had been awhile since I'd played any sort of adventure games.

As far as recent examples, Super Mario 35 is one that I wasn't sure what to expect but ended up playing a lot of.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

No

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Jesse_Custer posted...

This topic succeeded in getting the Pinky and the Brain theme song stuck in my head.

The "Good Idea/Bad Idea" intro is the one playing in mine.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Yes, by my workplace. And they're actually requiring everyone who works there to get vaccinated.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Agree with weighted. I'm even okay if we weight the gold fairly heavily, but silvers and bronzes should be more than just tiebreaker.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

7.5/10

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Personally, I'd prefer a system that counts all medals but that weights the better medals higher. A lot of the sports world tends to have a "winner take all" mentality, but I wish people celebrated 2nd and 3rd best more often, because most of the time, that's a really huge accomplishment.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Agrias

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

I think I'm one of the few voting for Water Land. It's an interesting one for map layout that's stuck out in my mind. There's a lot of good ones though.

Also, what is World-e? Is that a glitch world?

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Yesmar_ posted...

We actually *under*perform when taking all that into account. At the last Olympics the US won 3x the medals of Germany and France, despite having ~4x the population of Germany, and ~5x the population of France. Look at any other similar Western country and the US almost always underperforms in the medal comparisons relative to population.

I mean this is kinda true but think about if the US was split into, say, 5 different countries. Would you expect those five countries to get more individual medals or fewer? I think youd get more just by virtue of being able to potentially send more people overall to compete. Medals involving team sports could take a hit in that case, theoretically, since talented players might be split up.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Edgar

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

One of my physics professors in college told the story of how he represented himself in a court and tried to use math+physics to prove that he couldn't possibly have been speeding. He apparently hadn't been speeding and there was another car they confused with his.

Apparently the judge told him something like, "the laws of mathematics don't apply to this courtroom" and he had to pay the fine anyway.

Hope it goes well anyway, though.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

First time thoughts:

It says he's looking through the mirror. To me that sounds like a one way mirror.

1) Eagles
2) 8181
3) Sandy
4) IPad Pro
5) No

After reading it again, it says it's in an outdoor plaza so how is there a TV and a door? Also, why is the door under the TV? Unless there are tall ceilings (if there are ceilings at all), that's going to mean a short door. So many questions...

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Haven't played much smash since season 2 was released, but if I did try to learn a new character, Min Min looks really interesting. I tend to like ranged zoners like Dhalsim.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

By actively, I assume you generally do every day to get a daily reward. For me that is Mario Kart Tour and WordBrain.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Sazh

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Final Fantasy might qualify. Only 3 of the first 6 games localized, but became big with FF7.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

5 Magus (Chrono Trigger)
0 Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn

4 Mega Man (Mega Man)
1 Wheatley (Portal 2)

2 Hades (Hades)
3 Goro Majima (Yakuza)

1 Zero (Mega Man X)
4 Shulk (Xenoblade Chronicles)

4 Luca Blight (Suikoden 2)
1 Pit (Kid Icarus)

4 Count Bleck (Super Paper Mario)
1 Garrus Vakarian (Mass Effect)

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Setzer
Sazh

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

5 - The Boss (Metal Gear Solid 3)
0 - Fiona Belli (Haunting Ground)

5 - Cloud Strife (Final Fantasy VII)
0 - Guybrush Threepwood (Secret of Monkey Island)

4 - Carmen Sandiego (Carmen Sandiego)
1 - Yoshimitsu (Tekken/Soul Calibur)

5 - Captain Toad (Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker)
0 - Cuphead (Cuphead)

0 - Agent 47 (Hitman)
5 - Yoshi (Super Mario World)

0 - Chloe Price (Life is Strange)
5 - Auron (Final Fantasy X)

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

I'll say 6/10.

Just finished a true pacifist route a week or two ago. I tend to like games that do things different but this game seemed kind of weird at parts and was kind of hit or miss. Like the Papyrus date sequence and then Undyne just letting her house burn down just seemed weird to me. Also the sequence at the end of the Neutral pacifist run with Flowey was really freaky and borderline jump scare I guess I could talk about the good parts, like Alphys hacking the system to get you through but I see a lot of high scores so I thought I'd try to defend a lower score.

I didn't do the genocide route. I'll let my characters keep their happy ending, heh. I heard that from a gameplay perspective, it's very boring finding all the enemy encounters, aside from 2 very tough bosses. I tend to dislike super bosses, so I doubt I'd find it fun. Plus I was kind of sick of the game after playing through it twice. I did read the FAQ though. Maybe I'll watch that video linked earlier too.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

I think I did the following:
5-7-1
4-8-2
4-3-2
And then another path with 6 that wasn't 5-8-6.
5-8-6
4-7-1

I had to look up to do 5-8-6 and 4-7-1. Props to you for reasoning it successfully.

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"Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images" - Romans 1:22-23

Without trying to say too much, I think you're on the right track as far as some ideas to trigger additional endings. I remember not being able to figure out the right doors to go through myself. If you want this limited down some, the following doors are dead ends at this point, so don't bother doing those again if you want more endings (I don't recall whether any additional dialog would be possible here): door 2 and door 3.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Yes

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

My heart said Alcamoth, even if the lack of warp points was kind of a bad design decision. The story events there make it interesting, especially the late game stuff. The extra traversing also makes it more memorable due to repetition, heh. Objectively, the best settlement is probably Colony 9, though.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Yeah, I realize she's not the most useful if you really know what you're doing, but that party or a similar one helped me out to beat some tough foes before I got better gems and stuff. It's been awhile since I played so I don't remember if it was exactly that combo, but it has the most healing so I went with it.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

I'll nominate team healing:

Shulk/Sharla/Riki.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

htaeD posted...

The trick is to declare your moves during the animations of its attacks, so it cannot register your inputs at the moment.

Thank you, I had forgotten exactly how that worked. Yes, I remember now you can do that and that's a way to get more attacks in. Timing my attacks this way was the biggest help.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

IIRC, if a character has auto-reflect, Ozma will not use a reflectable spell against that character. This means auto-reflect is usually bad because spells like Holy being single target is usually better than alternatives that attack everyone. Beserk is the exception to this, which Ozma will cast at certain HP thresholds.

I don't think it checks elemental absorption though.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Hippaul can be raced only in Disc 3 when exploring Alexandria as Vivi. If you take him to some really high level, you get a key item, the Athlete Queen, that you get nowhere else. The key item does nothing and apparently can be really annoying to get.

Ozma counters attacks against it with its own attacks or healing, so you need to be really calculating about what attacks you use against it and when. Only use high damage attacks. I read a FAQ to understand his attack patterns and when the best time was to attack. Finishing the friendly monster sidequest really helps too. IIRC, I used Eiko, Dagger, and Amarant in order to have two healers who could also do a lot of damage, and Amarant for throwing Wing Edges.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Eiko does kind of outshine Dagger once you're on disc 4. Holy tends to do better than Dagger's summons, and Eiko's Double White trance is one of the few ways to get more than 9999 damage in one turn. There aren't that many battles in Memoria against multiple targets either, IIRC, so Holy being single target isn't too bad.

That said, I kind of like the two healer party myself.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

For Dagger's last summon, there's an item you can get that has it, and it's not a weapon. Here's more info about how to get it, but I recommend playing more before reading:

It's in Memoria. There's an optional, hidden boss that gives you access to the item that has it. I think you can also steal it from Ozma, but most will probably use this way.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

I want to say this game has more hidden AP than Cold Steel 1. However, fortunately you can still get the highest rank if you miss some. I know I missed some of the ones from battles and didn't get the highest rank until the very last optional sidequest. That said, if you're also missing some of the optional quests too, there's a good chance you may miss out on the highest rank anyway.

Edit: also, what's the infinite money glitch?

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

LordoftheMorons posted...

Funnily enough, this sidequest was missing from all of the gamefaqs guides for over a decade, so a lot of people presumably had "perfect" files that missed this sidequest...!

It was basically "discovered" a few years ago, which is impressive for an old game like this. Maybe someone found it before then, but it's not an intuitive sidequest to find at all. Finishing this involves a lot of backtracking, so it sounds kind of annoying. If you do this, then you'll be one of the few to actually complete it, since most don't even know about it.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Also, fun thing that many people don't realize (I didn't for awhile) is that you can switch Zidane out in the final dungeon.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Ozma is weird. It doesn't have a lot of HP, but it can randomly heal itself for a lot, and it can do so as a counter to any action you perform against it. Understanding the mechanics of Ozma really helps. You kind of need some luck too.

Ozma was the last of the PSX FF super bosses that I beat. FF7 and FF8 super bosses had a lot of HP and did a lot of damage. Beating them was more about figuring out which multi-hit moves did the most damage and figuring out how to do those moves over and over again while also not dying. FF9 doesn't have any real power moves like that, so an Ozma boss with lower HP is tough in a different way, and needs a different approach.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

No. I remember not liking his cartoons as a kid either.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

You might want to check other shops too, because a lot of them change. Note that there's one outside of Oelvert that's easy to forget. If an equipment has a new ability for someone, it's safest to just buy it to make sure you don't miss out.

Leonhart4 posted...

Eiko is better at white magic. Dagger is better at summons.

It's kind of interesting that they start in opposite roles when Eiko joins, since she has more summons than Dagger at that point but Dagger has had more time to learn white magic. But as the game progresses they eventually switch specialties.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

I kinda liked seeing Riki/Oka as a married couple. It feels like something you dont usually see for main characters.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

31, though I did include a few that I only played for a few minutes. Probably in the low 20's or so if I exclude those.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Summon Wind
Burst End
Summon Earth
Summon Ice
Summon Flare

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Maybe I should clarify that. I don't know that U-Materials are necessarily easy to farm in this game, but you tend to have a lot more extras than the first game. In the first game, I remember spending most of them on upgrading weapons; in the second game, you don't need as many for that purpose.

Personally, I spent more U-Materials on orbment upgrades than on accessories (I can't remember making a single accessory).

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

I remember the blue chests being some of the toughest fights, though it should generally be possible to do them right away even if youre underlevelled. It helps to at least have full CP for both characters. Sometimes one max S craft will take out the generic enemies, just leaving the main boss. Do this right away with one character and then use your other character to keep both alive until the first one starts getting turns.

Protect against status effects if you can, but if you cant you can just restart until they dont hit.

I didnt do too much with crafting accessories myself, but U Materials are way easier to get than the first game, so pendulums may be a good investment.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

I wouldnt recommend using it for Chocobo hot and cold. It basically breaks that game. Theres supposed to be a progression where you get faster over time as you visit more forests. Theres some late game equipment you can get there that you really shouldnt have a chance at getting this early.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Oh, also, it was alluded to earlier but there are definitely missable things from shops and even missable abilities tied to missable equipment. I'd recommend at least buying anything that teaches someone an ability they don't have. The most notorious example of this involves a couple of Vivi's spells.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

The stuff you get from stealing, at least early, is stuff you can get later anyway.

IIRC, I don't think there's any straight up missable things you can only get through stealing from a boss. Though I believe there are in rare cases extra copies of limited availability things you can get by stealing. Though I think this is only late in the game anyway.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

Murphiroth posted...

For that reason I'd hold on to any ore and gemstones you get.

IIRC, don't the friendly monsters only require one of these? I think you only need one of each type for that sidequest, so you shouldn't need to hoard a bunch of them.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

andylt posted...

Dagger picks her new name (I'm sticking to defaults but I wonder if there's any fun dialogue for switching it up anywhere!).

I named her "Garnet" and there wasn't anything unique, at least that I can remember.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

As far as missables go, this is a game where you probably don't want to sell off too much old equipment. Sometimes old equipment is needed to craft new equipment and it's past the point where you could obtain the old equipment.

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5

"Riki like fighting easy monsters."

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"Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude." - 1 Cor 13:4-5