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BlueCrystalTear posted...

Watching for Aaron Rodgers.

You're not gonna believe this

The B8 NFL "You miss once and you're out" league

Bills

Sceptilesolar posted...

Nobody should be unhappy. We might have to take away people's freedom to a large extent for reasons of public safety, but we're not doing anything with the goal of making them suffer. Even solitary confinement, which seems like the most extreme form of punishment that's still justifiable under my philosophy, shouldn't just be an empty and tiny box we shove our most hated people in for months and years. That's wrong.

I understand the idealism, but unfortunately things are not always that simple. It is important to know when to be idealistic and when to be realistic. The reality is, even though everyone "Should" be happy, not everyone is. And sometimes, people do bad things that unduly steal that happiness away from other people.

Crimes happen, all the time, in various severities. If no one should be unhappy, do you believe that if I shoplift, I shouldn't be punished because that would make me unhappy?

Snake5555555555 posted...

The death penalty is not about showing kindness to murderers. It's about the principle of taking a human life, regardless of the circumstances. When we execute someone, we're essentially saying that we have the moral authority to decide who lives and who dies. What if we make a mistake? What if an innocent person is wrongly convicted and executed? Perhaps we should focus on supporting those affected by crime and improving our justice system to prevent such acts in the first place.

I mean the OP did specify "what if there was no doubt" etc. If you want to take it beyond that then sure but that's not what the original question was

I have 0 issue with a death penalty from an ethical standpoint. Idk things like financials, but if someone straight up unjustly killed someone, with intent to do so, and it's proven, I don't want them rehabilitated and I don't care about ethics. Let's bring back the guillotine for all I care, or make it so that they must die in the same fashion as their victims did.

Telling someone to eat hawaiian pizza

Somehow this topic got unlocked but for anyone not in the know, I am no longer running it, look for chris's topic as he is running it now

What is candleja, a new final fantasy spe

Leonhart4 posted...

Nick Bosa got paid

Goodbye burns I guess

I get all that but it also makes him look a little dishonest when talking about how he plans on being there for his team etc etc. I'm not asking him not to holdout, it is the objective correct move, but dammit don't say that the day before then!

Honestly, normally I'm all for player power but the dude said, himself, that he would be playing not two days ago iirc. Don't say that and then do a 180 like this.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I still don't know what possessed them to make the first game Lions at Chiefs. Like Chiefs I get but why Lions as their opening opponent?

Speaking of the chiefs, kelce hyperextended his knee

Okay but when is PRBL

I just think it's hilarious lopen early on was preaching about how awesome he was because he doesn't use the block function and how "if I was at peace I could just ignore ulti and move on" and how it's sad that people on here "need to grab a victory over other users" but he just can't let this one go can he? Cause it sure sounds to me like you really REALLY need this victory over steiner and bane. It's okay to admit it, I readily admit I love pointing out inconsistencies in people who think they're better than everyone else just like you think you're doing. But you lost this moral highground you think you have the moment you called me petty for using a feature for how it's intended to be used. You tried to claim a victory over me in the same post you decried such users.

dilateDChemist posted...

Its literally just making football picks. I can see if Ulti was being a dick nonstop but I dont see it.

I dont know the whole story between the two users or even really about the cliques on this board. I guess Im just a lurker nowadays.

Since zsig posted one more time after saying it was his last post I guess I'll use my one freebie to say that 1) He is not the one I directly took the reigns from, that would be lefty and last time I approached lefty about this couple years ago (after ulti smarted off to me in the actual topic) his stance was "idgaf" essentially, so feel like I did right by the previous host there.

And 2) If it's literally "just making football picks" then why is the burden on me here instead of ulti? I don't get a pass for running a contest how I want because it's so meaningless but ulti gets a pass to be included in said contest? I get to be told "You should just get over it bruh" and ulti doesn't get to be told "You should just get over it bruh"? I disagree with that line of thinking.

You can get them from Thief Gloves either synthesized at daguerro, or the treno auction house

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AAb9RHAAEz2z.png

If you have all the thieving skills on (Like master thief) then your next best tip is "Good luck."

Gonna be my only post in this topic.

First off, I did get moderated, it was the opening post in the topic in which I listed the rules, one of the rules being the one in question here; that no one on my block list (ulti) was allowed to participate. It was a notification only, which resulted in the topic being locked. The moderation was for "trolling." I did not lock the topic myself, though it probably looked like I did given zsig told me to lock the topic upon my exit. But no posts were deleted, I was simply told that I had to allow anyone who wants to participate to do so, and by the time I got to the board after a couple hours break the topic had already been locked. If people don't believe me PM me and I'll happily share you the screenshot of the moderation. And no, I don't believe not listing the rule would have made any difference; all that would've happened instead is that ulti would've realized after week 1 that I wasn't counting his picks and and it would've just blown up then anyway. At which point if I got modded for what I did, then I would've just been modded at that time anyway.

Next up, I understand that it was a reasonable compromise for someone else to post picks on ulti's behalf; I don't care. I'll take the L on that if I have to in public opinion, but that should not be moddable imo. And people make some pretty big assumptions about me that I am petty for having a single, notorious person on my block list. The block list is a feature for a reason, it's stupid and petty yourself to criticize someone for using it in the manner it's intended to be used, especially when I have a grand total of one user blocked. Because spoilers, I didn't block zsig or leon or anyone else in here who thinks I"m petty for using the feature, despite me disagreeing with them on the subject.

Next, I take issue with anyone who thinks the dreaded "discord cabal" was at work here. Talking to you Leon. No one told me to do this, no one influenced my decision on this. Me being a part of the discord does not mean I am incapable of making decisions and formulating thoughts of my own. I didn't join and go durr hurr, this ulti person sounds like he sucks guess he's my enemy now! No, I decided ON MY OWN that I no longer wanted him to participate because of past actions both in the topic and out (Yes he has actually been quite rude to me before in the pickem topic, in case people weren't aware. I graciously allowed him to keep participating after that.) Am I friends with people on the discord? Sure! But if that means I'm "compromised" then lol.

I also take issue with zsig's handling of this. It is a major weak move for him to A) Act like he's better than me because he allowed ulti to participate during his tenure, which is not something I feel beholden to uphold ("I'm the reason this topic exists in the first place" etc), and B) not running this himself after talking that talk. Several people have mentioned how he then gave the topic to ulti, idgaf about that, really. I take umbrage more with him not running it himself if he thinks he is such a better host than me. And I don't take issue with anyone who chooses to participate in ulti's topic (not that you need my approval anyway), ulti seems enthusiastic about it so like, people blocking him aside I do think he will at least put the effort into it.

Ultimately, if people want to say that I am petty because I wanted to disallow ulti of all people, hey you do you. If that's the hill you want to die on, go for it. But I don't enjoy how I, as the host and the person who was CURRENTLY, not in the past, responsible for running the topic, am supposed to make more sacrifices of my own enjoyment after I already make sacrifices of time and effort of multiple hours a week plugging the picks in, getting the standings in order, etc. Which makes a former host of all people being against me on this even more frustruating, because they more than anyone would understand that this isn't just some 5 minutes a week project. Nope, I'm the bad person for not wanting a noted ****lord in my topic, who again as I noted previously has been an ass to me in the pickem topic before, and clearly that means I will just go on a blocking boner and start banning anyone the moment they talk back to me! Clearly me running this thing fairly for several years means nothing and now I am a terrible host, who according to the mods made the pickem topic in an elaborate ruse to troll ulti.

ZeroSignal posted...

If it's such a big deal that you won't unblock him, then I'll post his picks for him throughout the season for them to be recorded.

Ulti's one of very few people to take part in this since day 1 and this is an unfair reason to ban him or anyone else you don't like from this league. I didn't like some who signed up for my leagues or contests, but I let them in regardless.

You run it then. I'm not accepting any picks from him regardless where they come from. If you don't like it, legit run this league yourself again since you seem so intent on going back to how things were when you ran them. Serious offer, if you want it you can have it. But I don't owe ulti anything.

ZeroSignal posted...

With all due respect, as the person who ran this league for a decade and is the reason why B8 has a pick em league in the first place, I don't appreciate this rule.

It's a hassle for me to unblock someone I don't like, and risk seeing their posts elsewhere when I don't want to. You are welcome to your opinion, but rather than be mad at me, be mad at the person whose behavior got them banned. I appreciate that you started this league, but you don't run it anymore and as such don't need to throw the "I'm the reason we're here" in my face to justify your opinion. I shouldn't have to lower my experience on the board for someone else as a contest host. I already make a sacrifice by running the thing in the first place, which I'm sure you are aware of as a former host.

Also, in addition to the above rules, something I forget to say off the bat every year, when I list "4 PM, 8 PM etc" those are not the times they are due, just the timeslots. I know the 4 PM games start at 4:05, 4:25, whatever, i just don't want to list every different time in those blocks. So you just sort of understand that those games are due by their actual start times, not by the time listed here.

Thursday, September 7th
Detroit Lions @ Kansas City Chiefs

Sunday, September 10th
1 PM ET
Carolina Panthers @ Atlanta Falcons
Cincinnati Bengals @ Cleveland Browns
Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts
Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Minnesota Vikings
Tennessee Titans @ New Orleans Saints
San Francisco 49ers @ Pittsburgh Steelers
Arizona Cardinals @ Washington Commanders
Houston Texans @ Baltimore Ravens

4 PM ET
Green Bay Packers @ Chicago Bears
Las Vegas Raiders @ Denver Broncos
Philadelphia Eagles @ New England Patriots
Miami Dolphins @ Los Angeles Chargers
Los Angeles Rams @ Seattle Seahawks

8 PM ET
Dallas Cowboys @ New York Giants

Monday, September 11
Buffalo Bills @ New York Jets

It's that time again folks! For the uninitiated, this is a simple pickem league with a regular season and playoffs. Just pick the games each week, and if you do the best you win! Some rules:
1) Please pick the games in the order that I list them in the topic, as that makes it a lot easier for me when plugging picks in to my spreadsheet.
2) You may change the picks of any game that has not started at the time of the change but PLEASE DO NOT EDIT POSTS. If you have to double post, that is fine.
3) If you forget to make picks in this topic but made them somewhere else, PM me and I can review it to possibly give you credit. If it's in spread form, I can only grant wins that were on the over (If you pick the underdog at -6.5 for example, I can't count that as a win because you didn't pick them to win, you picked them to either win, or lose by less than 7 pts.)
4) I am no longer allowing anyone with an acct on my block list to participate. Tough, ulti. Go make your own if you care so much. I don't want to unblock people or have to log out of my own acct just to see posts. Them's the breaks.
5) If you decide to give up later in the season due to poor performance, please just let me know, either topic or PM, so it doesn't clog up the standings.

Before we get into it, allow me to once again congratulate both KommunistKoala, for having the most reg season wins and making it to the finals, and Shattered for winning the finals and having a solid season himself!

With all that said, picks coming in the next post!

Maybe if you had just apologized and learned why people didn't want you saying the stuff you did instead of doubling down about how we shouldn't be offended, then you wouldn't have been banned.

Unfortunately, intention isnt' the end all be all. Words can still hurt people whether you mean them to or not, and you refused to learn this lesson.

0, but I knew this existed thanks to the super best friends back in the day

A nick trade if I've ever seen one

Sure, I was speaking more to the OPs stance than yours. Even if the solution of grinding is there, I'm not gonna begrudge someone for being like "This one part sucks, so it's not worth beating the game." I contend more that it's not a problem over the course of the whole game.

Okay so I do need to issue a correction, it appears he does not join you until after the birds are defeated, so the last dungeon of the exile is where he joins you. So my apologies for being mistaken on that.

Regardless, that is for one section of the game. I get taking umbrage with that section, I don't think that makes the entire game suck ass because it's not a problem outside of that if you build your team correctly. Are 3 pokemon less than 6? Yes. Are 3 pokemon correctly typed enough to conquer any dungeon? Yes imo.

Absol was absolutely in the original game, and the side dungeons were there. In the section before each dungeon, you got an option of proceeding to the main dungeon (IE Mt freeze) or you could take a side path instead. This side path was a few floors long, typically had plenty of items, and took you back to the entrance where you could then repeat this as often as you wanted.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Snow_Path
as an example

Honestly, I Know this is a double post but I really do think DX would fix a lot of the issues you have. Bigger party size, they got rid of the stupid IQ system and made pokemon have helpful abilities akin to how actual pokemon is, you can befriend pokemon at a much faster rate which helps that bigger party size come into play more. I don't think losing your leader is an auto-loss anymore either. The only thing they really took out is the basic attack that doesn't cost any moves, but there are so many other QoL improvements that make it good enough. Grinding is a lot easier too, there's a special place for it that's akin to hyper training in pokemon in function. Super fast, super effective grinding.

Also if you don't like the pokemon the questionnaire gives you, you can just choose your own

Can I interest you in pokemon DX, where you can have a party of dungeon-recruited pokemon like up to 8 at a time? Also I'm p sure you can change control of the main character over to the partner at any time? Which should alleviate some of the issue. It's been a while but I feel like that is a feature even in the original.

This just seems like trying to make this into a traditional pokemon game, which it is not. Most if not all of the time, if both you AND your partner pokemon have type weaknesses to a certain dungeon (Like say groudon's for example) just take a 3rd pokemon with you that fixes it. Having just one pokemon with a type advantage can basically solo a whole dungeon, I don't think it's as limited as you do.

I do kind of understand the gripe about the exile portion, but even then the game provides infinite side dungeons that you can grind with should you get stuck on one of the legendary birds. It's not literally unwinnable as it's being portrayed here, especially since your forced 3rd partner is likely leveled higher than you and doesn't have a weakness to any of the birds.

I will be unfortunately removing myself from the project. Thanks for all the fun times my dudes

Warthog Run, and Lone Wolf in Reach

Has the govt always been able to do that though? I was under the impression vegapunk was the one that made the mother flame go, and that was why the sea level rose

I bet they'd have loved FVV over harden

Morey didn't even renege I bet. I think there was always an assumption on harden's end that he was definitely get traded whereas morey never saw it like that. They tried to trade him, but the market wasn't there. Harden wanted them to trade him at a discount and they were never doing that. He's an idiot.

Some posts have surfaced on twitter with Harden telling some people that Morey is a liar and he never wants to play for him again.

Too bad dude, your fault for assuming you would get traded!

Yeah I guess that was more my question, do you think this is something that needs to be artifically fixed to help running backs or is it "well if they're not valuable then tough"

The HoF game was last week I think so we're getting close! I'd like to start this topic off with a question: What does everyone think about the current running back situation? Do you think it's something that needs to be fixed or will sort itself over time?

was there actually more to the hell arc, I only saw the opening chapter and never heard anything else about it

The animation I've seen is legit really good

They didn't even need another superstar, but none of those players between simons and mccollum even played for them, and wouldn't have cracked a rotation if they did, that's poor drafting no matter how you slice it. They kept making trades that didn't help them enough. Either way, poor management is to blame, not dame's contract, and the same is true imo for basically any team with a supermax that doesn't get it done.

Luka's deal? The Mavs let brunson go for nothing and had no one to replace the bird space they lost with him. Beal? The wiz also had consecutive top 3 picks including beal, and they flubbed that hard, their drafting was even worse.
The bucks won with giannis, the dubs with steph, the nugs with jokic (though he just signed his). The suns and sixers are probably gonna be competitive for a couple more years with booker's and embiid's deals on the books. I just don't see how supermaxing a guy dooms you to the point we should be shedding $10M off the books to help teams out. I think teams have enough tools to win with those amounts, sometimes they fail to use them correctly.

Shattered posted...

That's how I've always thought it should be too.

Problem with the supermax is if a player is eligible you basically have to pay it. And the only way you're winning with a supermax contract on the books is if that player is a top 5 player during that deal (or a large bulk of it). And by the last years of a supermax contract, any player who would be eligible for it has a ton of mileage on their legs. They may be late 20s / early 30s but if it's a supermax player they probably played a lot of minutes and saw a lot of the ball and you would expect the team saw playoff minutes too.

So there's a far greater chance of a supermax ruining a team than causing it to win since they are likely already an over the cap team by the time they sign the deal.

If you've gone 8 years with a supermax level player and haven't won the title, you are boned whether they're on a supermax or a regular max. The ideal window is for a team to assemble their core while guys are still on rookie deals, like boston has, and like GS did. Having a supermax on the roster but only counting as the max isn't going to suddenly make teams magically be able to bring in tons of quality players; if you're over the cap you're mostly limited to MLEs, period.

Like look at portland; is dame's supermax the reason they couldn't build a contender? No, it's the fact that the guys they banked on around him didn't work and that they couldn't draft for crap outside of mccollum.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/9/AAb9RHAAEunB.jpg
Like look at this, not a single good pick for 5 years after mccollum, and then another drought for 4 years. That is the problem, not the supermax. Meanwhile, Boston will be fine because they already got all their dudes before having to give anyone their supermax, so by and large they don't really need to make any big acquisitions to try and keep their window open. They can remain a contender as long as the owner wants to pay the lux (which is an owner problem, not a supermax problem.)

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1687551673051361280?s=46&t=5rs-V2N8ZuS_S2f1lfBvCg

He's declining. Getting a good prospect at all is fine.

Apparnetly enough waves were made wiht teams that the NBA issued a memo saying that if they get a hint that a player (Dame) is under suspicion of not giving their full effort in event of a trade that there will be consequences.

It doesn't hamstring them terribly. If you have 1 supermax guy, you still have 65% of your cap space to play with (more once you go over the cap via exceptions) and if you have 2 guys like that then you're probably a really good team, like boston is. You shouldn't be able to have everything. Golden state wasn't hamstrung. Milwaukee wasn't hamstrung. Denver wasn't hamstrung. The Lakers weren't hamstrung. It's not like the supermax is a death knell to a team's window. If a team can't pull value from their other draftees, or minimum players, then they deserve to be punished for those, because those guys simply become more important once you're into the luxury tax, and even then it pales in comparison to the starters. Like the nugs had only 8 guys that played double digit minutes in the playoffs and they ran train over everyone.

I don't think the celtics should be "allowed" to give brown the super max, tatum his new supermax, keep porzingis, and give williams III his new big deal with no consequences, AND have money to play around with actually filling the bench out with things like good mid-level exceptions while having brogdon's lame duck deal on the books. The celtics aren't being punished for paying guys the supermax, they're being punished for having a big deal that didn't pan out in brogdon, and now potentially porzingis depending on how that works out, and for having their other draft prospects contribute basically nothing.

SeabassDebeste posted...

there's also a trade kicker, which is particularly ominous - could be a huge disincentive to teams trading for him

obviously if we win a title or multiple titles with brown then i'm thrilled. just worried about how this handicaps the team going forward. i understand the want to break up superteams, but i don't love it when it punishes teams for good homegrown drafting

Depends on how you think sports should flow. I believe that every team should inevitably have to deal with everyone wanting to get paid and sometimes that means you can't keep everyone. Otherwise you end up with another golden state. Maybe it is punishing but it's a necessary evil imo. Also the league gives advantages to those homegrown teams in what they can offer deal-wise, so it's not all against the team.