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_Near_ posted...

the real question is why anyone still responds to mal

I have him on ignore so it made it hard trying to see what he wrote from quotes but saw I wasnt missing much

Mal seems to be going around and around trying to deflect from a white surprmacist group training a killer. Shocker.

thelovefist posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

It's kind of an odd scenario. Let's say the FBI does successfully ID potential mass shooters, what do we do with them then?

Don't let them buy a fucking AR-15....

Well I dont think Trump would support that. He got rid of Obamas partial restriction on people with mental health getting firearms

DifferentialEquation posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

It's kind of an odd scenario. Let's say the FBI does successfully ID potential mass shooters, what do we do with them then?

What about sending local police over to attempt some sort of communication on the matter to the person or the parents. Obviously, we shouldn't subvert due process or the 4th amendment in any way, but what about the police simply making an attempt at discussing the matter?

Didnt this literally happen with the UCSB shooter?

smoliske posted...

most places are doing office 365 these days

Which is the correct way to do it

For an upgrade, then you are trash.

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

NINExATExSEVEN posted...

So a Hispanic guy who killed white people was part of a white supremacist group???

Totally adds up.

He wasn't Hispanic. He was adopted by a Hispanic couple at birth and used their name.

https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/florida-shooter-cruz-long-island-1.16781810

Does he have mental health problems? It's like 8 out of 10 of these shooters look like they have something wrong in their head. It's their eyes and face that look off.

You sure did a 180 real quick. Gotta find a new avenue huh?

Also to treat mental health we need funding and we need to provide it to all people.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-inauguration-crowd-numbers-111613883.html

Dude really is an idiot

TheVipaGTS posted...

its all lip service. while i agree mental health is one of the problems we need to address they're just going to use it to deflect from gun regulations...and then do NOTHING about it...they won't do things to make mental health care more accessible. they'll forget about it in a week. Fuck them...Disingenuous bull shit.

This. Their solution will be a mental health care week and a psa

Blue monk I dont like your new gimmick

So that you cannot get mental health support.

God bless.

Feel I should just move there lol

JFC its been like a week

Doom_Art posted...

I miss when Wikileaks wasn't awful

They havent been not awful for a while. Many of their founding members left because of the shadiness of Assange and his god complex

GuyCarlPeterson posted...

Wikileaks was fine until it started exposing the DNC.

Shut the fuck up. Im on the left. Hated Wikileaks back during the Iraq tape leaks, even when it was unpopular to say so. Especially since they edited the collateral murder video to look more nefarious and even ADMITTED they edited it just to appear more political and get more press.

tor984 posted...

So gay apps really became race segregated? ....why?

Its an exaggerated issue because many gay apps like Grindr are used fucking so people list their preferences pretty specifically to not waste time. On sites like OkCupid I dont see it often.

People on Reddit and Twitter fighting about whether hes white, Latino, white Latino, white hispanic, so fucking stupid. People wanting to blame something unrelated

https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2016/05/practical-concealed-carry-how-to-carry-a-full-size-pistol/

Lol found some. Ive shot firearms in the past and my family has some. But were not gun freaks so I dont research this stuff.

Guess girls cant wear dresses with it.

GregShmedley posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Where. On. The. Body.

Are you real right now?

He mentioned he wanted it to be a secret about which teacher is carrying.

I dont see an example of a holster that is completely hidden where you dont know if a teacher has a gun unless its some that goes under your pant leg or on the thigh for a girl wearing a dress/skirt.

So again, is it going to be a secret. Or will it be noticeable which teacher is carrying

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

scorpion41 posted...

So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.

Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.

The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?

So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?

You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?

Where is it going to be concealed?

On your person. Hence concealed carry. I feel like I'm speaking to a toddler.

Where. On. The. Body.

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

scorpion41 posted...

So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.

Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.

The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?

So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?

You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?

Where is it going to be concealed?

Because if its in a holster...you can still see they have a firearm...so its not hidden as you said where you dont know if a teacher has one.

scorpion41 posted...

Tmaster148 posted...

scorpion41 posted...

So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.

Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter.

Thats why you train them and certify them in tactical situations. Churches employing security teams already do this.

Lol so we cant afford to pay teachers more salaries but we sure can spend billions of dollars on giving active shooter training on how to take them down along with providing firearms to teachers. Lol great.

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

scorpion41 posted...

So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.

Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.

The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?

So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?

scorpion41 posted...

So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.

Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.

ChainedRedone posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

As much as you guys shit on the news for asking you guys are consuming and reposting all this content...soooooo

hurr durrr my nam is curelbufalo hurr

Charming. On the Reddit live thread a video of the scene is the top voted comment. So yes many of you all consuming it.

Darkman124 posted...

MrPeppers posted...

MrPeppers posted...

Darkman124 posted...

Much like training a dog, training children should have clear connections between cause and effect.

darkman does not like children.

That's dark, man

I was making a punny joke...

i am what i am

Youre popeye?

As much as you guys shit on the news for asking you guys are consuming and reposting all this content...soooooo

Slovakia literally beat Russia for hockey lol

DifferentialEquation posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Sure its easy to be a crappy teacher at a comfortable school district and just collect a paycheck. Honestly lol what kind of teachers do you guys want? Once that just show up to babysit, than yeah keep the pay low. Thats the level of talent youll get.

I think you're going to get more "babysitter" teachers no matter what because education is changing for the worse. When I was kid, if someone failed a class they be punished by their parents. Now, if a kid fails a class, the parents call the teacher and blame blame them. And the parents are humored.

Sort yes and no. In terms of social promotion (promoting whether they do a good job or not) is still here and I hate it. I also hated how much our school put participation as a grade.

But the standards I like. The new NGSS (next gen science standard) have moved away from reciting facts/figures and you have to have standards that force kids to show/prove ideas through experiemente.

Like its no longer
Students will know Newtons 3 laws of motion

But will be things like Students will demonstrate through experiments that Newtons 3rd law when one body exerts a force etc etc

Reis posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Darkman124 posted...

can believe. i would be supportive of some studies into the subject area of treatment of men going into nurture-related fields like pediatrics or early childhood education

That is one thing that is harder about being a male teacher. I was very cognizant of making sure my door is open, my windows are not blocked, Im not alone with a student that could be perceived as odd/wrong. Usually female teachers wont get as many

You know it's funny, I've been thinking about stuff like that too lately for if I ever decide to teach at a university or something later on when I'm old

Meh at a university theyre all of age. Just dont date your own student

Darkman124 posted...

can believe. i would be supportive of some studies into the subject area of treatment of men going into nurture-related fields like pediatrics or early childhood education

That is one thing that is harder about being a male teacher. I was very cognizant of making sure my door is open, my windows are not blocked, Im not alone with a student that could be perceived as odd/wrong. Usually female teachers wont get as many

r4X0r posted...

KILBOTz posted...

I always had an interest in teaching but I'd need to be principal to make what I do now. If I had the same amount of schooling but went for education and spent the last 13 years as a teacher, I would be making less than 40% what I make now. If I had gotten a masters + 90 hours or a PhD I would be making 60% of what I make now (numbers are based on the school district I live in).

So pretty much I would only go into education if I won the lottery.

Teachers only work 180 days out of the year compared to 230-240 for most professions, if they don't have sex with a student they basically can't get fired and they have benefits for life. A M-F job in a climate controlled, indoor environment nine months out of the year. In a lot of places, being a tenured teacher practically IS winning the lottery. The teacher salaries near where I live are staggeringly generous.

Lmao a m-f job. When do you think grading occurs? Making tests? Changing circulum?

Like I said, I worked harder, much harder, as a teacher than I ever did as an engineer for way less people.

Sure its easy to be a crappy teacher at a comfortable school district and just collect a paycheck. Honestly lol what kind of teachers do you guys want? Ones that just show up to babysit, than yeah keep the pay low. Thats the level of talent youll get.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

MedeaLysistrata posted...

i mean this is a real problem and all but what are you suggesting should be done about it? or do you think it's someone else's problem to fix?

step one is to either include boys in the "empowerment" narrative or to eliminate it entirely. anti-male narrative should not be a sanctioned part of any political orthodoxy

step two is to stop excluding men from teaching careers

i think we're better off with a paradigm that says "let people do what they're interested in". unfortunately for a lot of boys that amounts to playing video games all day.

are men really being excluded from teaching careers? i don't think that's quite true.

My cohort (that I owe $10k for one year, not even giving me the teaching credential since it takes two) was about 60/40 women to men. Really depends on the field. The social sciences and English were heavily more women in my program

For science:
Physics was 100% men
Bio was mostly women
Chem was a mix

This is all obviously non-scientific and just from my experience at one teaching program

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Darkman124 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

step two is to stop excluding men from teaching careers

i mean

are we actually doing that

or are teaching careers such a bad ratio of hours/energy invested to cash returned in salary that men avoid it like the plague?

economists often note that men generally concentrate in higher-paying fields, women in lower-paying fields. it's clear that money is a major motivator

Nursing is almost entirely women and yet the average pay is $72,000 with benefits according to USA News. Teaching can be quite lucrative and stable too, esp with summer months.

Seems like a systemic bias against men and for women in those fields.

With male unemployment and uninvolvement increasing over time, I'd expect men to settle for anything. Not convinced it's just about money.

I mean do you really expect men to want to teach or nurse when the feminist-dominated culture portrays them as toxic and menacing and not to be trusted with children? Why do you think men receive much worse punishments for the same crimes? The system is biased.

Still waiting for my answer @FLUFFYGERM.

And no teaching is not mostly a lucrative career field, ESPECIALLY in low income districts that have a higher % of children behind. Moreover, is there a rate of men that go into medical field that become doctors over nurses? Seems to me you are cherry picking to make men seem woe is me. Id rather be a doctor than a nurse.

I mean all these topics are incredibly complex and involve multiple factors: from teaching styles, recruitment and retention of teaching talent, curriculum, societal goals.

To act like its some simple well clearly girls get too much encouragement and men feel bad; therefore, stop encouragement on gender is so elementary and simplistic

Darkman124 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

step two is to stop excluding men from teaching careers

i mean

are we actually doing that

or are teaching careers such a bad ratio of hours/energy invested to cash returned in salary that men avoid it like the plague?

economists often note that men generally concentrate in higher-paying fields, women in lower-paying fields. it's clear that money is a major motivator

I made six figures as an engineer, went into teaching, hated it because of admin/lack of rigor being done, and bounced back to engineering. The pay was a big reason I didnt stay. I worked harder as a teacher than I ever did as an engineer.

FLUFFYGERM posted...

MedeaLysistrata posted...

i mean this is a real problem and all but what are you suggesting should be done about it? or do you think it's someone else's problem to fix?

step one is to either include boys in the "empowerment" narrative or to eliminate it entirely. anti-male narrative should not be a sanctioned part of any political orthodoxy

step two is to stop excluding men from teaching careers

Lol thats not what the studies say. Also address my points below. @FLUFFYGERM

CruelBuffalo posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Another factor that contributes to all of this is that teachers are overwhelmingly women. Like, close to 90% of all teachers K-12 are women IIRC.

Boys literally are not provided with role models and are instead being told that they're the problem in society. It is a narrative that is not considered damaging or politically incorrect due to the way "privilege" has been constructed as a framework.

How hard the pendulum swings back depends on whether or not we collectively put an end to the horseshit rhetoric against boys/men.

Dont you discourage people from not getting STEM degrees? What do you think most primary school teachers get degrees in, engineering?

Moreover, didnt you advocate that teaching should be done remotely to save costs and automate it all through a computer. Doesnt that fly against that boys learn differently and need non-conformity?

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Another factor that contributes to all of this is that teachers are overwhelmingly women. Like, close to 90% of all teachers K-12 are women IIRC.

Boys literally are not provided with role models and are instead being told that they're the problem in society. It is a narrative that is not considered damaging or politically incorrect due to the way "privilege" has been constructed as a framework.

How hard the pendulum swings back depends on whether or not we collectively put an end to the horseshit rhetoric against boys/men.

Dont you discourage people from not getting STEM degrees? What do you think most primary school teachers get degrees in, engineering?

Moreover, didnt you advocate that teaching should be done remotely to save costs and automate it all through a computer. Doesnt that fly against that boys learn differently and need non-conformity?

SK8T3R215 posted...

Theres a big difference in monthly premiums, based on the example Blue Cross provided to the Statesman.

For the $4,000 deductible plan, premiums would range from $89.91 to $242.79 for a 21-year-old, compared with $237.60 for a comparable plan on the exchange.

Premiums for a family of four ages 8, 12, 30 and 39 range from $435.58 to $1,176.24, compared with $933.05 for a comparable exchange plan.

http://amp.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article199999234.html

I mean if people want to take these plans they could save a lot on premiums.

At the expense of raising healthcare premiums for everyone else, and screwing themselves if something catastrophic does happen to them.

Darkman124 posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

I did not grade like this as a teacher and neither did many of the teachers I worked with. My students has specific participation columns in their grades and I would put comments if they didnt get full credit explaining the reason why. It happened to boys and girls.

But yes if there are some teachers who factor behavior into assignment grades they need to switch that out.

there are, the study indicates they are a statistically significant subgroup and that pretty much all of the gap in grades between young male and female children can be described by this process

From browsing the first page, its primary (k-6) not all grades, right?

Darkman124 posted...

CruelBuffalo posted...

Proof of this?

i posted proof although it isnt that girls are given special positive treatment, nor that it's given because of gender, but rather that boys are given special negative treatment because they behave in ways that boys tend to behave

Thanks Ill read when Im home. Curious, where did they pull their data from? Nationally? District? State?

Darkman124 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

It is because the system as a whole is anti-male, and often times anti white male specifically.

i think the study is worth a read

it's not exactly that it's anti-male, but anti- traits that are intrinsic to male psychology, socialization, and maturation

boys get subjectively graded early on in school and are punished on what they're led to believe are objective assessments, for being more disruptive in class than girls are. nobody is saying "here is the participation part of your score, see how you being a little prick caused your grade to go down?" they're saying "you got a B on this assessment, she got an A."

over time a lot of boys just decide they'll never be good at school and tune out, even though they were certainly capable. the subjective grading system, and the way teachers punish them for being annoying little pissant children, creates a system where they're not learning "I was punished for X" but rather "sometimes I am punished. there is no reason, it just happens."

Much like training a dog, training children should have clear connections between cause and effect.

darkman does not like children.

I did not grade like this as a teacher and neither did many of the teachers I worked with. My students has specific participation columns in their grades and I would put comments if they didnt get full credit explaining the reason why. It happened to boys and girls.

But yes if there are some teachers who factor behavior into assignment grades they need to switch that out.

Pretty big deal...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

Axiom posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

The anti-school, anti-education sentiment in boys has roots in kindergarten, when theyre slower to learn to read than girls, said Jim Shelley, the manager of the Mens Resource Center at Lakeland Community College in Ohio. Girls at the primary and secondary level worldwide far outperform boys in reading, according to the Organization of Economic Cooperation and .

I feel like this is a huge problem in teens and adult men as well. There has been a huge surge in the anti-intellectual movement which has taken to calling higher education "liberal indoctrination centers"

I think the bigger issue is that girls are given special treatment and empowered, whereas the narrative excludes boys. It is why boys are abandoned by the system from a young age. The unfortunate reality is that saying this gets you labeled an "MRA" by the extremly radical feminists out there, so the conversation is only ever about empowering women.

Proof of this?

FLUFFYGERM posted...

"what are you talking about, im not abrasive!!!!!111" - Giant_Aspirin just a couple weeks ago

Well you obviously have an agenda by bolding specific parts soooo

Axiom posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

The anti-school, anti-education sentiment in boys has roots in kindergarten, when theyre slower to learn to read than girls, said Jim Shelley, the manager of the Mens Resource Center at Lakeland Community College in Ohio. Girls at the primary and secondary level worldwide far outperform boys in reading, according to the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development.

I feel like this is a huge problem in teens and adult men as well. There has been a huge surge in the anti-intellectual movement which has taken to calling higher education "liberal indoctrination centers"

Which is even more funny when someone majors in something like STEM. You have a couple of GEs with a professor who has a point of view. Imagine being so mentally weak if youre conservative/liberal that you cant handle that.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/373783-idaho-insurer-to-sell-plans-outside-obamacare-rules

For those who sign up with that plan. Disgusting.

So those people dont get any representation? Lol wtf. How can anyone support that?