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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:39:50 PM
#153:


Capn Circus posted...
You'll find most of these shooters are wacked out their mind from anti depressants. We can probably start there. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago.

You're right. They clearly aren't receiving enough medical attention. We let down our mentally ill every day.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/14/18 5:40:23 PM
#154:


KingCrabCake posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
It's so great that hoarding powerful weapons of mass murder is seen as an acceptable part of American culture. Muh freedom!!!!


Yeah we should ban cars

Muhh logic

You and your ilk are scum.
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Zodd3224
02/14/18 5:40:49 PM
#156:


Well, we're doing something wrong in the US... this is ridiculous.
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ZMythos
02/14/18 5:41:14 PM
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https://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/
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Questionmarktarius
02/14/18 5:41:28 PM
#158:


hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
You'll find most of these shooters are wacked out their mind from anti depressants. We can probably start there. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago.

You're right. They clearly aren't receiving enough medical attention. We let down our mentally ill every day.

The left insists that nuthouses are inhumane, and the right doesn't want to pay for them.
What are you gonna do, really...
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coinstarcad
02/14/18 5:41:47 PM
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I want to know if he graduated.
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CruelBuffalo
02/14/18 5:42:09 PM
#162:


ChainedRedone posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
As much as you guys shit on the news for asking you guys are consuming and reposting all this content...soooooo


hurr durrr my nam is curelbufalo hurr


Charming. On the Reddit live thread a video of the scene is the top voted comment. So yes many of you all consuming it.
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NinjaBreakfast
02/14/18 5:42:35 PM
#164:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
It's so great that hoarding powerful weapons of mass murder is seen as an acceptable part of American culture. Muh freedom!!!!


Yeah we should ban cars

Muhh logic


He doesnt care that theres millions of illegal handguns being funneled onto the streets of black neighborhoods, but when a white kid gets a gun its game fucking over.

You think the genocide of all north Koreans is acceptable.

This is a fact btw unlike you suggesting I don't care about the use of firearms outside of "some white kid"
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Ammonitida
02/14/18 5:42:55 PM
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At least two dead, according to latest reports.
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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:43:39 PM
#168:


KingCrabCake posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...

KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck?

It's a meaningless platitude that serves no useful purpose. It's practically "gesundheit".


I disagree

Are thoughts and prayers raising the dead? Are they having some kind of tangible effect on stopping school shootings?


I mean you can be obtuse all you want. Its not going to sway my opinion or belief

That is exactly the problem. We have too many beliefs and not enough doing. This poisons even people in positions of power to enact change. Just a bunch of bullshit platitudes to their constituents
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KingCrabCake
02/14/18 5:43:52 PM
#169:


KillCommunism posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
frozenshock posted...
Maybe one day there will have been so many school shootings anymore that it will have become a fact of life and no one will care anymore.

Wasn't that roughly five or six years ago?

KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck?

It's a meaningless platitude that serves no useful purpose. It's practically "gesundheit".


God you are so fucking cringe. Grow the hell up.

You realize you can extend that to everything anyone can possibly say, correct? You actually thought that through before you spewed it, right? Of course you did. Nothing anyone says can by itself do anything. So words are entirely meaningless and no one should ever day anything at all, ever, because words, ultimately, are pointless.


These people must be a joy around when someone sneezes and someone says god bless you...

Or when a family has a child and they say congratulations....Or God forbid something horrible happens to a family member and someone says "thoughts and prayers"

Theyre also probably the same people who pray when something bad is happening to them. I'll never understand why people shit on people for being religious.
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ChainedRedone
02/14/18 5:43:54 PM
#170:


KillCommunism posted...
frozenshock posted...
KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck? It's no different than other sayings meant to show sympathy. Do you get mad when people say to sick people, "I hope you feel better". Hardly anyone takes these things as having literal changing power, and of those that do, even fewer believe the changing power these words possess are sufficient without actual action. If that were the case, we never would've made it out of the stone age.


Because after the 50th time it no longer sounds like a means to show sympathy but as a recycled phrase to be repeated ad nauseam while not being willing to do jackshit about it.

To you, maybe, but in reality, what are most people to do? Ban guns? Enact "reasonable gun control?"The problem with that is that "reasonable gun control" is defined entirely by liberals, and will inevitably lead to total ban of guns, which is what they want. If that's what you mean by "doing Jack shit about it" then you bet your ass I will never get behind that. Some things, such as the ideas this country were founded on, are far more important, and far bigger than any one man, or family. Some great things have bad, indirect results.


Damn liberals actually want to do something about it and complain about OUR thoughts and prayers??
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Questionmarktarius
02/14/18 5:44:34 PM
#172:


GregShmedley posted...
What state do you live in where you can buy a shotgun without going through a background check?

Mostly the "red" ones, with Walmarts.
Or did that change?
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KingCrabCake
02/14/18 5:46:04 PM
#173:


hockeybub89 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...

KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck?

It's a meaningless platitude that serves no useful purpose. It's practically "gesundheit".


I disagree

Are thoughts and prayers raising the dead? Are they having some kind of tangible effect on stopping school shootings?


I mean you can be obtuse all you want. Its not going to sway my opinion or belief

That is exactly the problem. We have too many beliefs and not enough doing. This poisons even people in positions of power to enact change. Just a bunch of bullshit platitudes to their constituents


I mean not much someone like myself could do besides pray for the victims and their families. Maybe donate. But regardless to bitch about someone saying "thoughts and prayers" is highly pathetic. Its like when people cry that someone said "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas...just shut your mouth and keep it moving
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scorpion41
02/14/18 5:47:51 PM
#176:


Questionmarktarius posted...
GregShmedley posted...
What state do you live in where you can buy a shotgun without going through a background check?

Mostly the "red" ones, with Walmarts.
Or did that change?


Um you have to go through a check no matter who the FFL dealer is. Some states require waiting periods, but all require background checks.
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KingCrabCake
02/14/18 5:48:03 PM
#177:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
It's so great that hoarding powerful weapons of mass murder is seen as an acceptable part of American culture. Muh freedom!!!!


Yeah we should ban cars

Muhh logic


He doesnt care that theres millions of illegal handguns being funneled onto the streets of black neighborhoods, but when a white kid gets a gun its game fucking over.


Who the fuck cares about the color of their skin...white...black...brown it doesnt matter.

Hardly anyone cares when its a poor little ghetto kid being killed...

Plus wasnt the shooter spanish?
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ThunderTrain
02/14/18 5:48:06 PM
#178:


M_Live posted...
Thatuser posted...
For those saying we need to do something about it, Congress is trying. The conceal carry reciprocity act would do away with all schools being gun free zones and allow qualified teachers to carry in self defense.

I'm generally pro-gun but keep them the fuck away from schools


Yeah that is probably the worst idea I've ever heard.
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Tmaster148
02/14/18 5:48:07 PM
#179:


Clearly the solution to gun shootings is to bring more guns into the picture.
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Thatuser
02/14/18 5:48:22 PM
#180:


I feel this warrants a post since its been disregarded and people still claim nothing is being done to curb this type of action.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/38?q=%7B"search"%3A%5B"concealed+carry+reciprocity+act"%5D%7D

This bill amends the federal criminal code to allow a qualified individual to carry a concealed handgun into or possess a concealed handgun in another state that allows individuals to carry concealed firearms.

A qualified individual must: (1) be eligible to possess, transport, or receive a firearm under federal law; (2) carry a valid photo identification document; and (3) carry a valid concealed carry permit issued by any state or be eligible to carry a concealed firearm in his or her state of residence.

Additionally, the bill specifies that a qualified individual who lawfully carries or possesses a concealed handgun in another state: (1) is not subject to the federal prohibition on possessing a firearm in a school zone, and (2) may carry or possess the concealed handgun in federally owned lands that are open to the public.


Clearly things are being done, perhaps not what you as an individual want, but I happen to think this is sound and hope it passes for Trump to sign.
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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:49:32 PM
#181:


fenderbender321 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Yet, Canada doesn't seem to have a problem with school shootings. So are guns really the problem?

Megaschools may be the root issue.


You know, you'd think that if we lived in a society where people used logic and reasoning to solve problems, the schools themselves would be the first thing we'd investigate and look for solutions. But nope...it's guns, dude. Guns. Guns guns guns! We just need to ban guns.

You see, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of students in countries like Australia, UK, and Canada that are sitting in class dreaming about how much they'd love to massacre their teachers and fellow students someday, but knowing that dream won't come true because guns are banned in their country, or because they'd have to go through the excruciating task of mailing a form in order to receive a permit so that they can buy one.

You see, if we just ban guns or regulate them, then all these kids who passionately desire to murder their classmates and teachers to the point that they make serious, detailed plans for it will have to call the whole thing off because it's too inconvenient for them to try to obtain a gun. If we can just deter this one silly little phase that most kids go through, they'll go on to live happy, normal lives as a productive and valued member of society.


I'm re-quoting this because I spent 10 minutes writing this only for it to be buried on the previous page within like 20 seconds.

But those countries don't have school attacks at anywhere near the frequency of the US, so what the fuck is your point exactly?
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Questionmarktarius
02/14/18 5:49:34 PM
#182:


M_Live posted...
Thatuser posted...
For those saying we need to do something about it, Congress is trying. The conceal carry reciprocity act would do away with all schools being gun free zones and allow qualified teachers to carry in self defense.

I'm generally pro-gun but keep them the fuck away from schools

There's several instances, including this one, where the "Gun Free Zone" sign on the front door accomplished jack shit.

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KingCrabCake
02/14/18 5:49:56 PM
#183:


@NinjaBreakfast posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
NinjaBreakfast posted...
It's so great that hoarding powerful weapons of mass murder is seen as an acceptable part of American culture. Muh freedom!!!!


Yeah we should ban cars

Muhh logic

You and your ilk are scum.


Oh no some little guy just called me scum on a message board...oh nooo my life is over.
Maybe take a chill pill and drink some coffee.
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KillCommunism
02/14/18 5:50:15 PM
#185:


ChainedRedone posted...
KillCommunism posted...
frozenshock posted...
KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck? It's no different than other sayings meant to show sympathy. Do you get mad when people say to sick people, "I hope you feel better". Hardly anyone takes these things as having literal changing power, and of those that do, even fewer believe the changing power these words possess are sufficient without actual action. If that were the case, we never would've made it out of the stone age.


Because after the 50th time it no longer sounds like a means to show sympathy but as a recycled phrase to be repeated ad nauseam while not being willing to do jackshit about it.

To you, maybe, but in reality, what are most people to do? Ban guns? Enact "reasonable gun control?"The problem with that is that "reasonable gun control" is defined entirely by liberals, and will inevitably lead to total ban of guns, which is what they want. If that's what you mean by "doing Jack shit about it" then you bet your ass I will never get behind that. Some things, such as the ideas this country were founded on, are far more important, and far bigger than any one man, or family. Some great things have bad, indirect results.


Damn liberals actually want to do something about it and complain about OUR thoughts and prayers??

The problem is what liberals want to do will fundamentally change this country for the worst, and make us far more vulnerable to subversive enemies than we already are.
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spikethedevil
02/14/18 5:51:06 PM
#186:


Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out on this board.
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
02/14/18 5:51:37 PM
#188:


spikethedevil posted...
So people don't see a problem with a first world country feeling it's teachers should have to carry guns in self defense? Just when you think the US cant get any more backwards.

All over the news right now is a very good reason some teachers should carry.

Also LOL at people citing ISLAND nations as models for gun bans. Liberals want banned guns but an open porous border with the most contraband filled, drug filled, cartel filled, human trafficking filled country out there. The same liberals that cite the adjacent areas to Chicago as the reason guns get into Chicago. You cant exaggerate stupidity like that.
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Thatuser
02/14/18 5:52:39 PM
#189:


spikethedevil posted...
Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out these days.

A gun could possibly defend unarmed minors in unfortunate scenarios like what occurred today.
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Questionmarktarius
02/14/18 5:52:47 PM
#190:


spikethedevil posted...
Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out these days.

Both pale in comparison to the pile of corpses caused by cheeseburgers, anyway.
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ZMythos
02/14/18 5:52:47 PM
#191:


"The solution to this gun problem is more guns"

Real fucking smart.
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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:53:21 PM
#192:


27_Sandman_40 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
You'll find most of these shooters are wacked out their mind from anti depressants. We can probably start there. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago.

You're right. They clearly aren't receiving enough medical attention. We let down our mentally ill every day.


Mentally ill by what standards?

Why do we give adolescents antidepressants and other pills in such a critical stage of their brain development? Surely theres a better way?

Probably because they are mentally ill, but what the fuck do doctors know?
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spikethedevil
02/14/18 5:53:35 PM
#193:


Thatuser posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out these days.

A gun could possibly defend unarmed minors in unfortunate scenarios like what occurred today.


And if the US didn't have it's gun fetish it wouldn't be needed in the first place.
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Questionmarktarius
02/14/18 5:54:30 PM
#195:


ZMythos posted...
"The solution to this gun problem is more guns"

Real fucking smart.

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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:55:25 PM
#196:


Tmaster148 posted...
Clearly the solution to gun shootings is to bring more guns into the picture.

Obviously mutually assured destruction is the way to maintain a happy society.
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ZMythos
02/14/18 5:56:14 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...


That straw man can't even stand with a pole up its back.
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hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:56:16 PM
#198:


GregShmedley posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Probably because they are mentally ill, but what the fuck do doctors know?


The same doctors responsible for the ongoing opioid crisis, right?

That's right.
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Thatuser
02/14/18 5:56:26 PM
#199:


spikethedevil posted...
Thatuser posted...
spikethedevil posted...
Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out these days.

A gun could possibly defend unarmed minors in unfortunate scenarios like what occurred today.


And if the US didn't have it's gun fetish it wouldn't be needed in the first place.

A gun is a tool, useful in some scenarios. Ownership of them is also a right purposefully included by the founders of our nation. They aren't going anywhere.
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spikethedevil
02/14/18 5:57:28 PM
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Yes in an amendment as in amended as in something that can be changed and what use do guns have as a tool other than for killing someone or something?
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scorpion41
02/14/18 5:57:45 PM
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So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.
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lightwarrior78
02/14/18 5:57:48 PM
#202:


fenderbender321 posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Yet, Canada doesn't seem to have a problem with school shootings. So are guns really the problem?

Megaschools may be the root issue.


You know, you'd think that if we lived in a society where people used logic and reasoning to solve problems, the schools themselves would be the first thing we'd investigate and look for solutions. But nope...it's guns, dude. Guns. Guns guns guns! We just need to ban guns.

You see, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of students in countries like Australia, UK, and Canada that are sitting in class dreaming about how much they'd love to massacre their teachers and fellow students someday, but knowing that dream won't come true because guns are banned in their country, or because they'd have to go through the excruciating task of mailing a form in order to receive a permit so that they can buy one.

You see, if we just ban guns or regulate them, then all these kids who passionately desire to murder their classmates and teachers to the point that they make serious, detailed plans for it will have to call the whole thing off because it's too inconvenient for them to try to obtain a gun. If we can just deter this one silly little phase that most kids go through, they'll go on to live happy, normal lives as a productive and valued member of society.


I'm re-quoting this because I spent 10 minutes writing this only for it to be buried on the previous page within like 20 seconds.


So a solution to shootings, but one that leaves hundreds or thousands of kids still feeling whatever anger, depression, anxiety, or other mental health conditions to stew and fester until they do something else, or just suffer through life.

Shootings are a symptom of larger problems in American culture, not the disease.
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The Great Muta 22
02/14/18 5:58:03 PM
#203:


LRodC posted...
And liberals celebrate because theres something else to help push their anti gun agenda


Oh go fuck off, no body is celebrating children being killed. Jesus christ that's pathetic
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