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DragonGirlYuki 02/14/18 5:58:05 PM #204:	spikethedevil posted... Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out on this board. Guns are also useful to manage the feral hog population. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:896091428] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>Cars have the use of getting from A to B guns have one use and one use only the banning cars straw man is stupid and over done and seems to be the only argument gun nuts throw out on this board.</quote> Guns are also useful to manage the feral hog population.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 02/14/18 5:58:43 PM #205:	That comes under killing something. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:896091459] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>That comes under killing something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wolf_J_Flywheel 02/14/18 5:59:00 PM #206:	Tmaster148 posted... Clearly the solution to gun shootings is to bring more guns into the picture. The guys who arrested and stopped the suspect in fact brought more guns into the picture. --- Those who act like sheep, will be eaten by wolves http://i.imgur.com/n1L1yBu.jpg <cite>Wolf_J_Flywheel posted [p:896091470] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Clearly the solution to gun shootings is to bring more guns into the picture.</quote> The guys who arrested and stopped the suspect in fact brought more guns into the picture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/18 5:59:01 PM #207:	scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:896091473] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlkPopeIseem 02/14/18 5:59:41 PM #208:	Ammonitida posted... Here it is, guys. What you've been waiting for. https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nicolas-nikolas-nick-cruz-florida-school-shooter-gunman-instagram/ Honestly a lot of people were saying it was going to be him, the student said. A lot of kids threw jokes around like that, saying that hes the one to shoot up the school, but it turns out, you know, everyone predicted it. Thats crazy. He was on the third floor, he knows the school layout. He knows where everyone would be at. Hes been in fire drills, hes prepared for this stuff. Fucking dumbasses <cite>BlkPopeIseem posted [p:896091504] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ammonitida posted...</cite> <quote>Here it is, guys. What you've been waiting for. https://heavy.com/news/2018/02/nicolas-nikolas-nick-cruz-florida-school-shooter-gunman-instagram/</quote> Honestly a lot of people were saying it was going to be him, the student said. A lot of kids threw jokes around like that, saying that hes the one to shoot up the school, but it turns out, you know, everyone predicted it. Thats crazy. He was on the third floor, he knows the school layout. He knows where everyone would be at. Hes been in fire drills, hes prepared for this stuff. Fucking dumbasses</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/14/18 6:00:20 PM #209:	CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896091538] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/14/18 6:00:24 PM #210:	scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896091545] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/14/18 6:01:06 PM #211:	Tmaster148 posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter. But good guy with a gun always saves lives --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896091593] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter.</quote> But good guy with a gun always saves lives</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 02/14/18 6:01:12 PM #212:	spikethedevil posted... Yes in an amendment as in amended as in something that can be changed and what use do guns have as a tool other than for killing someone or something? No other use. Millions of people abide by the law and carry every day. Its terrible that criminals do bad things and misuse the tool, but peoples legal right to own them shouldn't be infringed. Its a living document and may be amended. I doubt the 2nd will ever be written out. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:896091596] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>Yes in an amendment as in amended as in something that can be changed and what use do guns have as a tool other than for killing someone or something?</quote> No other use. Millions of people abide by the law and carry every day. Its terrible that criminals do bad things and misuse the tool, but peoples legal right to own them shouldn't be infringed. Its a living document and may be amended. I doubt the 2nd will ever be written out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/14/18 6:01:59 PM #213:	ChainedRedone posted... The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? Yes let's intimidate the entire student population by putting some of America's most stressed workers in a position of killing power. "This man is drowning, we should pour more water on him and see if that works" --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:896091642] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> Yes let's intimidate the entire student population by putting some of America's most stressed workers in a position of killing power. "This man is drowning, we should pour more water on him and see if that works"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scorpion41 02/14/18 6:02:09 PM #215:	Tmaster148 posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter. Thats why you train them and certify them in tactical situations. Churches employing security teams already do this. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:896091653] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter.</quote> Thats why you train them and certify them in tactical situations. Churches employing security teams already do this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/18 6:02:25 PM #216:	ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:896091676] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThanksUglyGod 02/14/18 6:02:54 PM #217:	Who's gonna pay for all this gun/deescalation training teachers are supposed to do? <cite>ThanksUglyGod posted [p:896091713] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>Who's gonna pay for all this gun/deescalation training teachers are supposed to do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/14/18 6:03:05 PM #218:	GregShmedley posted... The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:896091721] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. </quote> I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThunderTrain 02/14/18 6:03:09 PM #219:	I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too. --- Without this nobody reads the last line of a post Praise Lord Helix <cite>ThunderTrain posted [p:896091725] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/18 6:03:36 PM #220:	scorpion41 posted... Tmaster148 posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter. Thats why you train them and certify them in tactical situations. Churches employing security teams already do this. Lol so we cant afford to pay teachers more salaries but we sure can spend billions of dollars on giving active shooter training on how to take them down along with providing firearms to teachers. Lol great. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:896091757] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Turning a gun shooting into a stand off will more likely cause more injuries or death. Civilians are not trained to deal with an active shooter.</quote> Thats why you train them and certify them in tactical situations. Churches employing security teams already do this.</quote> Lol so we cant afford to pay teachers more salaries but we sure can spend billions of dollars on giving active shooter training on how to take them down along with providing firearms to teachers. Lol great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/14/18 6:03:44 PM #221:	CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns? --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896091763] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardofHoth 02/14/18 6:04:59 PM #223:	Why are the students still wandering around at the school? Shouldn't they be calling their parents to pick them up or something?? <cite>WizardofHoth posted [p:896091832] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>Why are the students still wandering around at the school? Shouldn't they be calling their parents to pick them up or something??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/14/18 6:05:16 PM #224:	ThunderTrain posted... I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too. No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. Or maybe we'll just kill each other even more --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896091851] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThunderTrain posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too.</quote> No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. Or maybe we'll just kill each other even more</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 02/14/18 6:05:45 PM #226:	ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns? Where is it going to be concealed? Because if its in a holster...you can still see they have a firearm...so its not hidden as you said where you dont know if a teacher has one. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:896091887] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?</quote> Where is it going to be concealed? Because if its in a holster...you can still see they have a firearm...so its not hidden as you said where you dont know if a teacher has one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/14/18 6:05:51 PM #227:	GregShmedley posted... So...don't do It? Any time this idea is brought up, it is on a volunteer basis. Nobody would do it. It's ridiculous. GregShmedley posted... Given your emotional response off that bat, I wouldn't want you near a gun. Good. Keep me away from them. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:896091892] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote> So...don't do It? Any time this idea is brought up, it is on a volunteer basis. </quote> Nobody would do it. It's ridiculous. <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Given your emotional response off that bat, I wouldn't want you near a gun. </quote> Good. Keep me away from them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thatuser 02/14/18 6:06:35 PM #229:	ZMythos posted... GregShmedley posted... The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous. So don't. If your colleagues want to, why stop them? Not saying they do, I don't know you or them obviously. I'm sure some teacher in some public school would like the opportunity as they probably already have a permit to carry- just can't do so in a school zone. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:896091928] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. </quote> I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous.</quote> So don't. If your colleagues want to, why stop them? Not saying they do, I don't know you or them obviously. I'm sure some teacher in some public school would like the opportunity as they probably already have a permit to carry- just can't do so in a school zone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WizardofHoth 02/14/18 6:06:35 PM #230:	Frikkin Floridans or any other students from a school where they just stand around when they should just go home <cite>WizardofHoth posted [p:896091929] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>Frikkin Floridans or any other students from a school where they just stand around when they should just go home</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThunderTrain 02/14/18 6:07:07 PM #231:	hockeybub89 posted... ThunderTrain posted... I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too. No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. Or maybe we'll just kill each other even more I am excited to live out my wild west fantasies. --- Without this nobody reads the last line of a post Praise Lord Helix <cite>ThunderTrain posted [p:896091954] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThunderTrain posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sure kids will feel real safe with teachers having guns lol. Might as well start training Walmart and McDonald's employees to carry guns too.</quote> No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. Or maybe we'll just kill each other even more</quote> I am excited to live out my wild west fantasies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChainedRedone 02/14/18 6:07:18 PM #232:	CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns? Where is it going to be concealed? On your person. Hence concealed carry. I feel like I'm speaking to a toddler. --- David Mink. Hero. https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6043/6337878059_009dd4c4f3_z.jpg <cite>ChainedRedone posted [p:896091968] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?</quote> Where is it going to be concealed?</quote> On your person. Hence concealed carry. I feel like I'm speaking to a toddler.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thatuser 02/14/18 6:08:05 PM #235:	CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns? Where is it going to be concealed? I wear an inside the waistband holster on my right hip toward my back. I can even tuck my shirt in around it. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:896092016] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?</quote> Where is it going to be concealed?</quote> I wear an inside the waistband holster on my right hip toward my back. I can even tuck my shirt in around it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 02/14/18 6:08:31 PM #236:	Schools already run drills to train the staff and students during normal school hours how to act in the case of an active shooter, similar to fire drills. Just because they are not armed does not mean they hide and barricade themselves from harm. Also my high school at the very least had a few security guards around during normal school hours. I would hope this is the case with other schools, if not than maybe other schools need to improve their security before arming teachers. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:896092041] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>Schools already run drills to train the staff and students during normal school hours how to act in the case of an active shooter, similar to fire drills. Just because they are not armed does not mean they hide and barricade themselves from harm. Also my high school at the very least had a few security guards around during normal school hours. I would hope this is the case with other schools, if not than maybe other schools need to improve their security before arming teachers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/14/18 6:08:32 PM #237:	GregShmedley posted... ZMythos posted... GregShmedley posted... The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous. So...don't do It? Any time this idea is brought up, it is on a volunteer basis. Given your emotional response off the bat, I wouldn't want you near a gun. So would we have to fire teachers that don't want to go through gun training? They'd be putting their class at risk, no? The school shooters would just target those classrooms? Or should we let children carry guns too? Ooh how about an armed guard in every room? How third-world or dystopia do we need to go to scare shooters out of action? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896092044] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>The idea is to have teachers trained for the scenario. </quote> I have enough shit to deal with as a teacher. "Training" like this is fucking ridiculous.</quote> So...don't do It? Any time this idea is brought up, it is on a volunteer basis. Given your emotional response off the bat, I wouldn't want you near a gun.</quote> So would we have to fire teachers that don't want to go through gun training? They'd be putting their class at risk, no? The school shooters would just target those classrooms? Or should we let children carry guns too? Ooh how about an armed guard in every room? How third-world or dystopia do we need to go to scare shooters out of action?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 02/14/18 6:08:37 PM #238:	ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... ChainedRedone posted... CruelBuffalo posted... scorpion41 posted... So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers. Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone. The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you? So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt? You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns? Where is it going to be concealed? On your person. Hence concealed carry. I feel like I'm speaking to a toddler. Where. On. The. Body. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:896092049] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ChainedRedone posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CruelBuffalo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>So why wouldnt arming teachers be a viable short term solution until we come up with a longer term one? Something besides teachers may snap because thats not a good answer given the issues we have police doing that more often than CCW carriers.</quote> Teachers leaves gun in desk. Student grabs gun. Shoots someone.</quote> The gun should be in their person at all times. And students shouldn't be told which teachers have guns. That should remain confidential for obvious reasons. You didn't think this through much did you?</quote> So it should remain on them at all times....yet remain hidden....ummmmm where am I putting the gun as I teach? Up my butt?</quote> You have literally never heard of concealed carry? Lmao do you know anything about guns?</quote> Where is it going to be concealed?</quote> On your person. Hence concealed carry. I feel like I'm speaking to a toddler.</quote> Where. On. The. Body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 02/14/18 6:09:09 PM #239:	fenderbender321 posted... hockeybub89 posted... No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. There might be merit to this. Look at what happened once countries started to make nuclear weapons. The cold war, for example. See also: http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Gun-Free.gif <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:896092077] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing.</quote> There might be merit to this. Look at what happened once countries started to make nuclear weapons. The cold war, for example.</quote> See also: http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Gun-Free.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 02/14/18 6:09:59 PM #242:	Holy! 15 people are reported dead now! <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:896092127] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>Holy! 15 people are reported dead now!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/14/18 6:10:08 PM #243:	fenderbender321 posted... hockeybub89 posted... No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing. There might be merit to this. Look at what happened once countries started to make nuclear weapons. The cold war, for example. No, there is no merit to this. I was making a ridiculous joke statement. "Maybe we aren't afraid enough of each other" is not the problem in America. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896092132] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>No one will shoot anyone if we're all afraid of what each other is packing.</quote> There might be merit to this. Look at what happened once countries started to make nuclear weapons. The cold war, for example.</quote> No, there is no merit to this. I was making a ridiculous joke statement. "Maybe we aren't afraid enough of each other" is not the problem in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/14/18 6:10:25 PM #244:	GregShmedley posted... Except there are teachers that do.... The handful of teachers that would do it wouldn't change anything or would be the kind of teachers who would shoot the school up themselves. You're blind to the kind of stress and work teachers already have to put up with. I shouldn't have to worry about my fucking life because "muh guns." --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:896092143] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Except there are teachers that do.... </quote> The handful of teachers that would do it wouldn't change anything or would be the kind of teachers who would shoot the school up themselves. You're blind to the kind of stress and work teachers already have to put up with. I shouldn't have to worry about my fucking life because "muh guns."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ammonitida 02/14/18 6:11:14 PM #246:	16 people dead, the second worst school shooting in US history. http://www.fox10tv.com/story/37506779/fl-shooting-suspect-in-custody-at-least-14-injured-2-killed <cite>Ammonitida posted [p:896092175] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote>16 people dead, the second worst school shooting in US history. http://www.fox10tv.com/story/37506779/fl-shooting-suspect-in-custody-at-least-14-injured-2-killed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thatuser 02/14/18 6:12:20 PM #247:	fenderbender321 posted... Teachers wouldn't be required to bring a gun. They would just be allowed to do so if they are legally allowed to conceal carry. This is exactly what the Act currently in Senate committee would allow. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:896092231] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Teachers wouldn't be required to bring a gun. They would just be allowed to do so if they are legally allowed to conceal carry.</quote> This is exactly what the Act currently in Senate committee would allow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/14/18 6:12:56 PM #249:	GregShmedley posted... hockeybub89 posted... So would we have to fire teachers that don't want to go through gun training? They'd be putting their class at risk, no? The school shooters would just target those classrooms? Or should we let children carry guns too? Ooh how about an armed guard in every room? How third-world or dystopia do we need to go to scare shooters out of action? Yikes. GregShmedley posted... God you're insufferable Not worth discussing this subject with. Seriously though. What good would optional gun training do? Aren't gun-free zones a thing we blame for shootings? Wouldn't a gun free classroom just be painting a target on itself? Or are we seriously banking on M.A.D. improving society by instilling the fear of anyone potentially packing? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:896092270] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote>So would we have to fire teachers that don't want to go through gun training? They'd be putting their class at risk, no? The school shooters would just target those classrooms? Or should we let children carry guns too? Ooh how about an armed guard in every room? How third-world or dystopia do we need to go to scare shooters out of action? </quote> Yikes. <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>God you're insufferable</quote> Not worth discussing this subject with.</quote> Seriously though. What good would optional gun training do? Aren't gun-free zones a thing we blame for shootings? Wouldn't a gun free classroom just be painting a target on itself? Or are we seriously banking on M.A.D. improving society by instilling the fear of anyone potentially packing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 02/14/18 6:13:18 PM #250:	GregShmedley posted... It is troubling to know you are responsible for educating other humans. It's troubling to know how educated of a human you are. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:896092288] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>It is troubling to know you are responsible for educating other humans. </quote> It's troubling to know how educated of a human you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingCrabCake 02/14/18 6:13:19 PM #251:	spikethedevil posted... Yes in an amendment as in amended as in something that can be changed and what use do guns have as a tool other than for killing someone or something? Sorry that protection isnt important to you --- [Your sig sucks] Waaaaah <cite>KingCrabCake posted [p:896092291] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>Yes in an amendment as in amended as in something that can be changed and what use do guns have as a tool other than for killing someone or something?</quote> Sorry that protection isnt important to you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thatuser 02/14/18 6:14:04 PM #253:	ZMythos posted... GregShmedley posted... Except there are teachers that do.... The handful of teachers that would do it wouldn't change anything or would be the kind of teachers who would shoot the school up themselves. You're blind to the kind of stress and work teachers already have to put up with. I shouldn't have to worry about my fucking life because "muh guns." Obviously you're already worried since school shootings are happening. Your first statement is misguided in my opinion and shows your bias, but you're entitled to your opinion. <cite>Thatuser posted [p:896092334] in School sho... [t:76318940]...</cite> <quote><cite>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Except there are teachers that do.... </quote> The handful of teachers that would do it wouldn't change anything or would be the kind of teachers who would shoot the school up themselves. You're blind to the kind of stress and work teachers already have to put up with. I shouldn't have to worry about my fucking life because "muh guns."</quote> Obviously you're already worried since school shootings are happening. Your first statement is misguided in my opinion and shows your bias, but you're entitled to your opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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