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Either scenario is equally mindblowing.
If there is, then a higher power is in charge of us somehow.
If not, then it's a trip that we're all alone, almost as if anything we do doesn't matter.
I believe in a merciful God who we can't fully understand.

andel posted...

little caesars is horrendously bad. dominos is better than pizza hut and little caesars but light years better than little caesars for sure

Domino's is not better than Pizza Hut

I mean, Little Ceasar's is better.

I feel like everyone voting no is white

SailorGoon posted...

Fortunately, if you'd like to learn that racism existed and how it was normalized you can read that in a history book in your history class. While I do agree, that censorship of this kind is counterintuitive, I find it questionable to advocate for this to be mandatory in an English class. If it's so important, it should be taught at the teachers discretion. Otherwise I don't think it's really important to be used as material in an English class. There are other literary works where a similar message that one might try to teach is self evident.

Well, I am a high school English teacher. And I've taught it a few times because I don't believe in censorship either. The problem for me though is that I can be around several black students and adults while reading this. And, despite my beliefs, I find it hard to read aloud. It's very uncomfortable. I've pushed through but the shit gives me anxiety. I say keep it in the library, but to put it on a high school class, I say skip it. Too many hurt feelings and you have to work hard to try and put it in context anyway to even get students to see it from a historical or literary experience.

Or any other book with pervasive use of the N word, To Kill a Mockingbird.
I say yes.

I'm thinking of upgrading to a 55"

Walking simulator?

40"

Master_Bass posted...

No, but I have a sleep number bed.

Do you enjoy it? Is it high maintenance though?

CyricZ posted...

Casper

What be this Casper?

If not, what kind do you have, or what do you sleep on?

I got one, but I feel like it's comfortable when you first lay on it, but I feel sore on my pressure points after a night's sleep. Had it for a few years now.

https://www.viralnovelty.net/little-caesars-hangs-sign-door-catching-homeless-people-eating-scraps-dumpster/

They hung a sign on the door.

That's a lot of No's for a Kojima game.

Oh and I changed my mind, I'm probably not going to get it. Some of the more critical reviews say it's a long walk to everywhere with nothing but go fetch quests.

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Cocytus posted...

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Yeah, on PC

Summer 2020?

Idk. Not even sure when DS is on the ps4

Next Friday

Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Yeah, on PC

Summer 2020?

Thinking about it...

Fuparulez posted...

I was born in 1985, and I would never want to grow up in a different era. Everything was perfect. Teenager in the 90s, we were kids before technology took over, it was all just perfect.

True

Firewerx posted...

Best decade for what? For who?

Iyo

Firewerx posted...

Best decade for what? For who?

For Jo...

Justin2Krelian posted...

Cocytus posted...

Gehhhtouuttta heear

Still better than the 70s (even not counting tech/medicine)

Maybe

Feline_Heart posted...

2000s

Gehhhtouuttta heear

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

In what regard though? Video Games? Music? Murders?

The whole deal

80s

user-2 posted...

Depends. You wanna become sadder or cheer up?

Cheer up I think.

What's a good movie for that?

coh posted...

"Where To Invade Next"? How about you "invade" the gym you fat piece of shit.

So you're argument against his ideas is that he's fat...?

Aristoph posted...

Cocytus posted...

vigorm0rtis posted...

I don't agree with the death penalty period.

You didn't read what this guy did.

If you're just going to dismiss anybody who disagrees with you, then why bother making the topic in the first place?

Sounds more to me like you've already made up your mind and you just want others to pat you on the back for it.

No he posted quickly is all. I understand that not everyone will agree, which is why I made the topic, like you were saying.

Congrats

Omnislasher posted...

Cocytus posted...

vigorm0rtis posted...

I don't agree with the death penalty period.

You didn't read what this guy did.

it doesnt matter

Agree to disagree.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/ronald-haskell-found-guilty-of-capital-murder-in-slayings-of-stay-family

"HOUSTON - A jury convicted a man Thursday of killing six members of a Spring family five years ago.

Ronald Haskell, 39, of Utah, was found guilty of capital murder in the 2014 shooting deaths of Katie and Stephen Stay, and their children Bryan, Emily, Rebecca and Zach. Their fifth child, Cassidy, was shot but survived her injuries.

During the trial, prosecutors painted Haskell as a man seeking vengeance against his ex-wife and her family and formulated a plan to carry out the murders.

"There was never a reasonable doubt that Haskell meticulously planned and carried out the slaughter of the Stay family," Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg said in a statement.

The defense argued that Haskell was insane and heard voices that led him to kill his ex-wifes sister, her sister's husband and four of their children on July 9, 2014.

Haskell hung his head after the verdict was read.

"I think he took it as best as you could expect," said Doug Durham, one of Haskell's defense attorneys. "He was aware that this was a strong possibility."

Cassidy Stay, who testified during the trial, was surrounded by family as she appeared to be praying just before the verdict was announced. Afterward, she appeared relieved.

The jury will now have to decide whether Haskell should die for his crimes. The penalty phase begins Monday morning.

"We want to save his life. That's our job," said Neil Davis III, another of Haskell's defense attorneys.

Haskell's defense conceded doing so will not be easy, although they don't believe their client poses a danger to anyone.

"He's been institutionalized. He's been in jail for five years. There have been no problems in the jail. He's been medicated. His mental health issues have been treated," Davis said.

Still, the very jury that didn't buy the argument that Haskell wasn't in control of his actions will be left to decide whether he lives or dies. Haskell's defense plans to have several witnesses take the stand during the punishment phase, including Haskell's relatives, friends and an expert who "will talk about why Ron Haskell will not be a future danger," Davis said.

Haskell's mental state is slated to take center stage yet again when testimony begins Monday in his punishment phase.

"Obviously [jurors] looked through the evidence carefully and I'm hoping that part of that was the medical records and that they see he's got a history of mental illnesses and I hope they find that mitigating," Durham said.

Haskell's defense expects the punishment phase to last 2 1/2 weeks or so."

vigorm0rtis posted...

I don't agree with the death penalty period.

You didn't read what this guy did.

"Brian Wice, KPRC2's legal analyst, said the defense had a tough road ahead of it because of the threshold that set the parameters for "continuing threat," which covered "whether or not anybody within society as including other inmates and staffing in the penitentiary is something this jury can consider in answering that question," Wise said.

Indeed, Haskell's defense tried to discourage jurors from labeling Haskell a continuing threat, urging them to consider whether there was anything sufficiently mitigating about Haskell. Their primary plea was mental illness.

Stay: 'I hope when you die, you will get the punishment you deserve from God.'

After Friday's verdict, Stay looked her family's killer in the eye.

"You've been in control long enough and now your game is up. You're not in control anymore. You've lost and this is it for you," Stay said from the witness stand. "I'm going to continue to move my life with happiness, and I'm going to move forward, and I'm going to forget about this and I'm going to forget about you."

"Are you going to feel remorse one day?" she asked. "I don't know and I want to tell you I don't care anymore."

"God will be there for you when you need him and that time is going to come quickly for you, whether you like it or not," Stay said, walking to her seat, passing the jury box. She smiled at the juror and offered a whispered, "Thank you."

The date of Haskell's execution will be set at a later time."

""When I heard that you felt no remorse, something changed inside of me and I didn't know what to do with that change, and it was causing me a lot of hurt and anger because that was my closure. My closure was the hope that you would feel bad. I no longer had the desire for closure because this is it. There's nothing left on this Earth that will soothe my wounds and worries. Only God can help me now."

Stay's testimony of how she survived her family members' assassination at the hands of a man she once knew as "Uncle Ron" anchored the prosecution's case. The defense never tried to challenge Stay. It couldn't. All it could do was argue that Haskell's trove of diagnosed mental illnesses prevented him from having any control over what he had done. And after a jury didn't believe that, the defense's last attempt was to convince the jury Haskell wasn't a continuing threat.

Closing arguments span two hours

Closing arguments on Friday drove home the defense's claim.

"Until his last breath, he will die in prison, and he deserves that, without question," began Neil Davis III, one of Haskell's defense attorneys.

"We know from the evidence that he's not a future danger. We know from the science and studies that he can spend the rest of his life in prison," he said.

The prosecution argued Haskell's actions on July 9, 2014, merely further confirmed who he had been "and who he will always be: an abusive, angry, violent, manipulative, selfish, narcissist, blame-shifting monster" argued Lauren Bard, one of three prosecutors on the case.

Jurors had two options to consider: life in prison or death by lethal injection. The prosecutors argued the right decision marked "the moment for justice," said prosecutor Samantha Knecht.

Knecht then lined up seven bullets, one for each member of the Stay family including Cassidy, the lone survivor.

"But his plan was not complete," she said after a pause, and lined up 22 additional bullets for the rest of Melanie Lyon's family members whom the state claimed Haskell had plotted to kill, as well. Melanie, the wife who testified she suffered 11 years of physical and verbal abuse by Haskell, was included in that second roundup.

"If not this, then what?" Knecht asked.

The defense said the prosecution's case was centered on the quest for vengeance.

"Killing Ron Haskell is not going to make that grief go away. It may make them feel better for a second, but that's not going to last," said Doug Durham, another of Haskell's defense attorneys, referring to relatives of the Stay family, especially Cassidy.

Durham asked the jury to consider if it found any sufficient mitigating factors about Haskell.

"I'll be very candid with you and argue Ron Haskell had a severe mental illness, and he couldn't distinguish right from wrong," Durham argued.

For the defense, a tough fight

"

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/penalty-phase-of-stay-family-slayings-trial-nears-end

"HOUSTON - Cassidy Stay walked past the jury box with a smile. It lit the spark that fueled her new beginning.

Seconds earlier, she spoke her piece to the man who killed her family.

A judge on Friday sentenced Ronald Lee Haskell to death by lethal injection, after a jury concluded Haskell remained a continued threat to society. The two-month-long trial, ending a nightmare that played out for five years, ended with Stay's victim impact statement.

"For the past five years, I always wanted to know how you felt about me and what type of remorse you felt," stay said.

"My family always said that you only felt sorry for yourself and I didn't want to believe that because I thought, 'Surely he has to feel bad for killing my family."

Whether Haskell felt bad wasn't a focal point of either side of the debate that determined his life. Rather, it centered on what drove his decision kill: Was it an inability to control the thoughts that triggered his actions or a deeply developed hate for the ex-wife who escaped his grip?

Over time, Cassidy found her answer.

"When I heard that you felt no remorse, something changed inside of me and I didn't know what to do with that change, and it was causing me a lot of hurt and anger because that was my closure. My closure was the hope that you would feel bad. I no longer had the desire for closure because this is it. There's nothing left on this Earth that will soothe my wounds and worries. Only God can help me now.""

The third season is kind of dull so far, and I'm in ep 6 of 8.

BruceWayneJr posted...

Cocytus posted...

*lil' friend

Heh, I was doing a throwaway joke from a podcast.

Cool

Good question.

Paper_Okami posted...

And my favorite scene

great social criticism

Gangster are easy scapegoats

for the people getting rich "the right way"
like by screwing over employees and cutthroat, unethical but perfectly legal business practices

For real.

trappedunderice posted...

Also, where'd you get that scar tough guy? Eating pineapple?

Good question.

Paper_Okami posted...

yeah

it's a glorious gangster soap opera

De Palma in general is an extremely underrated director

For real.

trappedunderice posted...

Yeah the whole drug deal gone wrong is my favorite scene because it really represents the shady business side of meeting someone you don't know to exchange drugs for money, it's a trust issue and is nerve shaking.

Absolutely. A surprisingly deep and nuanced film.

YookaLaylee posted...

I only saw it once but I thought it was too long and I got bored and turned it off when there was half an hour left. The flirting scene was funny but overall I thought it was lame

You might want to revisit it. I wasn't impressed my first time either.

masticatingman posted...

I like it but I dont think it holds next to a lot of the Scorcese or Godfather pictures.

Perhaps. It is a unique film by itself.

SSJGrimReaper posted...

C'mon pelican!

Hehehe

greatmonkeybaby posted...

Cocytus posted...

One of my favorites.
What's your favorite scene or lines?

My favorite lines were the lines themselves....wait

Yeah, line-for-line it's a great film.

Vicious_Dios posted...

Most would say their favorite lines or scenes were the shower, club hitment, or the final shootout parts, but the one that sticks out for me the most is the surreal scene where Tony and Mannie drive around at night highlighting the disparities between each other.

Yeah I like that scene too. Deep and subtle.

BruceWayneJr posted...

Say hello to my best friend!

Classic.

*lil' friend

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Cocytus posted...

Time to smash that thing into little bitty pieces.

I just did this to it instead

Hardcore.

boxington posted...

yea, but I preferred the school play

Hahaha, yeah I remember that,

A_A_Battery posted...

Same thing I do every night: try to take over the world.

Hehehe, for real.