Lurker > Blue_Inigo

Smh

uwnim posted...

If Israel wasn't committing genocide, they'd still be getting ammunition and 14 billion dollars.

Gee, maybe this would have been a good time for Biden to show his mettle and NOT do that while the country is committing genocide. Instead, he's supporting them, parroting their lies, excusing their war crimes, cutting off funding to the organizations that help innocent people, and not stopping at all.

You do very bad things, I don't vote for you. It's just that simple. A candidate serves the people and their needs. My needs are so simple. Stop killing Palestinians

wackyteen posted...

You can criticize someone and still vote for them.

Hell, you should be doing that

Probably would have before he decided to support the extermination of a group of people that look alot like me. All he had to do was not commit genocide. Unfortunately Genocide Joe does not care about brown people. I don't care to vote for someone who would enable the cruelest slaughters I've ever seen

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

What will you do when Trump wins? Im just genuinely curious how this worldview reacts to a second trump presidency that you arent trying to stop

Id probably do what i did from 2016-2020. If Trump wins, it is Biden's fault and Biden's fault alone for pushing the most devastating and unpopular foreign policy we've seen in decades. Biden is the one making these decisions. If he wants to win, he needs to stop supporting a genocide. He needs to fund the UNRWA. He needs to stop killing Palestinians

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Are you standing up for the Palestinians by taking a blind eye to their genocide? By ignoring what Biden is doing to them? He is literally starving them and all you do is deflect to bullshit. Man the fuck up and learn it's OK to criticize someone who is doing incredibly evil things. Racist things. Genocidal things

GranAures posted...

"I know Republicans want to murder everybody but you should blame the Democrats for not being nicer to me as to why I decided you need to be punished too" is a hell of a take. Shame that a functioning democracy somehow isn't appealing to you. Shame that LGBTQ people, any minority individual, women, not being openly legislated against by a regressive party is appealing to you.

"Not being nicer"

We are talking about the ongoing support for an extermination of a group of people. Shame that Biden doesn't care enough about his voters to see how INCREDIBLY unpopular his actions are and how damaging this is to his chances. Maybe he should stop supporting a GENOCIDE

Teddytalks posted...

That the democrats faults at the end of the day. They failed to be more appealing than literal garbage.

It's amazing that it's the voter's fault that the candidate fails to appeal to the voters. CE has it twisted. Biden could shit in your cereal and you'd vote for him.

Anyone who gives a shit about Palestinians should be furious at every Democrat for not doing the right thing. They're bastards, every one of them who aren't pushing for a ceasefire

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I do more than cast aspersions towards people who don't want to vote for a genocidal warmonger. I spend my own money and time helping out those this country continues to and has always forsaken. So, no thats complete bullshit. I help my people as much as I can. I also ain't gonna throw Palestinians under the bus and vote for the dude actively killing them right now. Nobody with actual morals would willingly do so as things are right now

uwnim posted...

Biden is not committing a fucking genocide. Netanyahu is.

Sending ammunition and 14 billion dollars means you are actively helping in committing a genocide. You are part of the genocide

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Biden should probably stop doing the thing losing him votes then. Your issue shouldn't be with those who don't want to vote for a genocidal warmonger. It should be for the genocidal warmonger who won't stop KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE

Heineken14 posted...

That is LITERALLY what you are fucking doing. Jesus christ. lol

That's the most frustrating part about this, is that people who are completely fucking clueless are the loudest ones, read - Trump and the GOP.

No that's what you're doing. You don't give a shit about Palestinians. You don't stand for anything and you hold no convictions. You just vote Blue no matter what and don't care that Biden is committing a genocide. Some of us don't bootlick whatever asshole comes around who claims they're gonna do good things while brazenly committing war crimes

wackyteen posted...

Yet if you don't, the change that will be made ensures the change you so desperately want will never be made.

I want you to have the ability to not vote, on principle. If you can't see that your inaction hurts you more than helps you, then you're going to die along with the rest of us. You have to make the choice to help put the rabid dog down or be complicit when the rabid dog attacks someone else

Protesting, organizing, donating to the right causes, etc are not inaction. I'm just not simply gonna vote for someone committing genocide right now. The rabid dog is already attacking me and I'm not being helped by those who said they would. Get better candidates

hitokoriX posted...

Not sure if you're a dude or not, but I'm gonna go with a gender neutral bro.

Bro, you gotta stop listening to these (majority white) people. This same topic has been made and argued to death countless times. They don't care about us. Their entire argument is, sorry for the genocide... BUT.

There have to be consequences for Biden for aiding and enabling a genocide.

Democrats need to learn that they need ti put up better candidates.

I'll continue to vote for the candidates that fit my morals. Genocide is a line I simply cannot cross.

And before anyone tries to come at me (again), please understand that I have put my body on the line for the fight against facism. So don't tell me I'm voting for Trump or any other idiocy.

A lot of this is where I fall. I'm glad someone somewhat understands where I'm coming from. As a human being, I simply can't be enthused, motivated, or compelled to vote someone who allows the kinds of brutality I've witnessed. It goes against my very core. I want Democrats and left wing policy but the candidates need to also be not shit. We are not forced to just suck up and take whatever is given. That's now how change is made

DarthAragorn posted...

Do you even realize how fucking stupid this is

It's always victim blaming with these people. My issue is with the President contributing to a genocide. Their answer "sToP pAyInG TaXeS". No comments from them on Biden being the problem here. No sir, he's not the problem here. It's the voter for daring to not cast away his vote mindlessly. You must vote blue no matter who, no matter the standards. No matter the consequences.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/610988/biden-job-approval-edges-down.aspx

Maybe the President is doing something really bad that, even at the pragmatic level, one should understand this is not helping him win an election

Heineken14 posted...

Yeah, you've made clear how shitty your standards are and where you draw the line and who you pretend to care about.

Yeah, I draw the line at genocide. Genocide is bad. Did they not teach you that in school?

Heineken14 posted...

I mean, I'm a white dude.... it'd be pretty scummy of me to only give a shit about what happens to white people. /shrug

When your people are going through a genocide, I'll be there to yell at whoever is supporting it. Wish you could do the same for Palestinians

GranAures posted...

I mean, he claims policy matters but can't be arsed to vote against policy that he claims to hate until he gets the perfect candidate.

We know the policy position of one party because they keep telling us exactly what it is they want. Many of us realize that that matters.

I'm constantly voting for those who at least claim to support my values and policy. Please keep your implicit genocidal support to yourself. Some of us have standards

Too_Many_Limes posted...

Out of curiosity, Blue_Inigo, how many letters have you written to Congress about this issue? Which anti-war candidates have you donated and/or canvassed for? Which organizations have you supported to put pressure on Biden and Congress to act?

I am supporting charities when I can related to Palestine like The Palestine Children's Relief Fund. I am making my voice heard. I'm calling local Congress members. I'm pissed at what our country is doing. I don't just vote for someone because they're Blue. I need them to care about this genocide. Policy matters. If they don't care about these Palestinians dying, they truly do not care about any of us.

GranAures posted...

Friendly reminder for everybody that one party wants to punish everybody that is not a member of their group and doing nothing against it is implicit support of those actions.

Mindlessly voting for Biden is implicitly supporting the genocide of Palestinians

https://twitter.com/NaksBilal/status/1761825956950421858?s=20

This is what Biden is paying for. This is what I'm mad at. This is what his actions led to. It didn't have to be this way. He could have stopped this many times

Will_VIIII posted...

Will you, a tax payer, stop enabling this too?

You can quit your job and stop spending money on things you pay taxes on.

Am I the one sending Israel ammunition and billions of dollars? The deflection of Biden's war crimes is amazing. I get it, yall would rather see a race of people die for Biden's sake

Will_VIIII posted...

No, we determined it's not a deal breaker for you. Or you don't understand equivalency. Likely both

The only thing determined is that the extermination of a race of people is fine to you as long as Biden is president

ooger posted...

Do you think Diaper Donny will stop this?

Will Biden, the one currently enabling this, stop this?

Humble_Novice posted...

He hasn't even directly killed them with his own hands, you know.

If I paid a guy to kill you, am I not responsible for your death

Humble_Novice posted...

So you want America to suffer the same fate as a form of petulant revenge? That's just utterly short-sighted and irrational of you.

That's a stupid but unsurprising interpretation of my words. We as a people should be in a total uproar at this. The pressure to stop this should be unavoidable. Biden should be ashamed of every action he's taken and working to reverse these damages. That is what I want. I want Biden TO STOP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. Got it memorized? I want him to stop.

DeathVelvien posted...

And if we follow what you say, we'll get a president that not only makes the Palestinian genocide even fucking worse, but destroys our own country at the same time, along with genociding even more people. So actually fuck off with your bullshit already.

We are already in the midst of one of the worst genocides in modern history. You can't say it will get worse when it's already got worse. We are already here and none of you give a shit. We have lost so much. So many people. So much culture has been obliterated in the blink of an eye. I can't in good conscience vote for someone who has already let this happen

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/153e1f68.jpg

It's fucking over for Palestinians already and it's not getting better. If the most powerful country in the world allows this to happen and does not stop it, do you truly think our own democracy is any better off? Can we even call it a democracy when this evil is funded and supported?

hockeybabe89 posted...

If one building is being blown up either way, I'll vote for not leveling the entire city, without hesitation. Those are my morals

The issue is we are getting entire cities leveled regardless

uwnim posted...

Why the hell are you only giving a damn about one single issue? That isn't going to result in humanity dying and doesn't even directly involve the US. There's far more things out there that matter than just Israel/Palestine.

So you don't give a shit. Finally, someone just plainly says what the rest are too scared to admit. You guys don't care. Just be real. The needs of these people don't matter to you. Their deaths don't matter to you. Biden can do as he likes and you say nothing to criticize him

Democracy is dead if we allow this genocide to continue

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Not voting against Trump means at the very least youre totally okay with the possibility of Trump winning. Because youre not doing anything to stop it.

Is Biden helping Palestinians?

Will_VIIII posted...

Thanks for enabling project 2025 then.

Just shut the fuck up and fuck off then.

Thanks for not caring about a genocide. You're playing right into Israel's hands. It's pretty clear a good chunk of CE couldn't care less that tens of thousands are dead, hundreds of thousands are injured and traumatized, and it's thanks to our tax dollars. I don't pay taxes for genocide. We should want our President to be better

Heineken14 posted...

How will Trump make things better for Palestinians and Americans?

Why do you people not get that I don't want Trump but also I'm not giving my vote to someone who is not proving themselves to be a better candidate? My vote is not bought by threats of another. My vote is earned by the candidate doing what is right

Joe Biden doesn't just deserve any of our votes if he's making the world a worse place

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Okay when the pressure of you not voting in November doesnt work and Trump wins, I hope you enjoy what lies ahead. Because its what you chose.

We all chose that by not making Biden better. Maybe you shouldn't mindlessly lick the boot of a genocidal warmonger

Unknown5uspect posted...

Hey we might get a genocide here under a new Trump regime but at least the Palestinians ... are going to still also suffer from genocide.

Just be real and say you don't give a shit about them. This isn't an either or situation.

Too_Many_Limes posted...

Why would I care about the opinion of someone who cares nothing for the survival of democracy and the rights of immigrants, women, the LBGT+ community, etc.?

If someone wants to insist on being a political non-entity, seems to me the least they can do is shut up about it, rather than pretending they're some moralistic bulwark.

There's no survival for democracy if we let a genocide fueled by colonialism go unabided.

Too_Many_Limes posted...

I'm sure they'll sleep very well at night knowing that at least they're not morally responsible.

Well, until the jackboots are kicking down their door, I guess.

I'm sure you'll sleep well knowing you didn't do a damn thing to pressure Biden as he continues to fund a genocidal campaign. How brave of you to stick your head in the sand as tens of thousands are slaughtered but you did a good a thing by picking the "right" guy

ThePieReborn posted...

I'm not sure that insisting on sticking to your guns when doing so will only cause a worse outcome is quite the flex you think it is.

Worse outcome? We are already in one of the worst outcomes. What is hard to understand about this? Biden is committed to an ongoing GENOCIDE and it is not letting up. It hasn't been letting up. What exactly is he going to do for these people? He hasn't been doing anything but killing them since October. He's blocked aid to them. He's let AMERICANS be killed by Israel. He's let journalists and hospitals be bombed. Hundreds of thousands have lost their homes forever. Tens of thousands are dead. The rest are starving.

You can't say vote for him or things will get worse when this is already the outcome. He doesn't care about Palestine. He doesn't view them as people. He doesn't care about what is right. These people are dying meaningless deaths and every major western news organization is standing in line with Biden's message: Palestinians must die. He is not stopping the machine. He's not letting up on the machine. He's part of the machine.

Heineken14 posted...

No, unlike you, we actually DO care, which is why people are wanting to do their best to mitigate not only how bad THAT will get but to ensure that things don't get dramatically worse here in America for marginalized groups as well. You on the other hand, are actively helping both of those things get worse. You can spare me with your both sides bullshit.

Caring isn't brainlessly empowering the man who is currently contributing to these deaths and getting fussy over criticism of his actions. It's such bullshit. Shove those lies about caring about Palestinians back where the sun don't shine.

GranAures posted...

Well, you see, Biden is a 5/10 on the bad scale and Trump is an 11/10 but that means they're both bad so the moral option is to do nothing and if the 11/10 happens then it's everybody else's fault for not finding the singular 0/10 in the world.
/s

Genocide is a 5/10 on the bad scale?

You guys should just be real and say you don't give a shit about this slaughter

FearlessMango posted...

everything that Blue_Inigo is saying just reminds me of rhetoric from "eNLiGhTeNed CeNtRiSts" always blaming Biden and the left, yet never touching anything regarding the right, even when pressed about it

I have no faith in these type of voters because they will either end up voting for Trump or they will not vote at all which only helps Trump, enabling him to inch closer to regaining control of the presidency

I'm not voting for either racist old white man who don't care about the needs of people who look like me. I was going to vote for Biden until Oct 7th and his continous actions that have led to one of the worst humanitarian crises I've ever seen. I care about Palestinians and am mad at the man who is currently KILLING them with zero remorse. This is not a both sides situation. This is an indictment on the actions of a man I voted for in 2020 who has failed me in a way I could never imagine

ROBANN_88 posted...

Has everyone forgotten Trumps "Muslim Ban" thing?
It's not like he's gonna reach out an olive branch with arms

Has everyone forgotten that Joe Biden can be better than what he currently is? Have we forgotten he serves the people and we don't serve him? Have we also not seen Joe Biden try to push an incredibly right wing border bill?????

wackyteen posted...

So simple we'll sacrifice America to stop... Nothing from changing about the Palestinians predicament

"Joe Biden if you do not change your course of actions, you will lose the Presidency". What should Joe do?

A. Continue to fund and contribute to one of the cruelest massacres of a race of people we've seen in modern times? Or...

B. Not commit genocide and work to win the votes of the people because Presidency is earned by people liking you not by doing what is continously documented as tremendously unpopular to a large chunk of your voter base

MangaBroski posted...

Palestinians are suffering crimes and terror and its unbelievably tragic theres nothing that can be done to stop Israels genocide against the Palestinian people in their home land.

No something can be done. It can be stopped. It never had to go this far. One of the (literally) most powerful men in the world who claims to want a Two State Solution could have prevented much of this.

So fuck Genocide Joe. I care about Palestinians. He's killing them. That's bad. It's just that simple

ooger posted...

Did you read the article or watch the video?

I'm guessing the answer is: No.

Maybe one day you will actually grow up.

Did you read or watch any of the clips and articles I posted where Genocide Joe continues to push one of the worst exterminations of a group of people weve ever seen in modern times?

GranAures posted...

As well as everybody who isn't a cis het white male Christian.

So we're victim blaming now? Voters must be beholden to a candidate no matter what? I coulda swore it was the candidate's job to appeal to voters, not the other way around. Vote blue no matter who is not how I roll. Biden should and needs to be better. He is only damaging his own chances by not ending this meaningless slaughter

Trumble posted...

Biden fans: "We aren't a cult like Trump fans"

Also Biden fans: *lose their shit when someone says they won't support Biden, even if that person clearly hates Trump far more*

It's fucking crazy man. I've made my hate for Trump visible for years but when Biden does something I find absolutely heinous, I'm pro Trump lol. People here don't seem to understand how damaging to Biden these actions are nor how MESSED UP what he's doing is. I'm pretty damn left, that's why I'm so damn pissed rn at Biden

ooger posted...

Growing up is replying to direct questions.

Maybe one day you'll grow up, but today is not that day, LOL.

Your dumbass whataboutisms are neither questions nor a mature take on anything

It's not about a perfect answer. It's about any answer. Joe Biden is contributing to the genocide of Palestinians and is currently starving them. None of you actually give a shit if you think voting for him will fix that because HES DOING IT RIGHT NOW. You can't threaten me with worse, which is all you're doing, by telling me to vote for one war criminal over another. This infantile look at it being either/or is why Biden can do what he does right now. We are citizens of the United States. Our votes are earned, not granted. I ask for better than genocide. It's really not that much.

havean776 posted...

I like how nobel Blue is at throwing my friends to the wolf's so he can feel morally superior.

Is Joe Biden and his genocide approving goons in office your friends? Those are the ones who I'm throwing under the bus. They should all be under the Hague

Will_VIIII posted...

You're going to get worse. Time to stop the tantrum and grow up.

Growing up is not voting for a genocidal war criminal currently starving a race of people to death. Growing up is wanting better and pressuring those in charge to put better people in place.

Will_VIIII posted...

A productive discussion with you on the matter is simply impossible

It is if you don't wanna be a dick about it and understand where I'm coming from. To put it in the plainest terms, Biden's actions are morally reprehensible and he's not stopping. He is committing heinous war crimes that disgust me to my very core and make me furious.

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1754981574460821897?s=20

https://twitter.com/ecomarxi/status/1754629958645801166?s=20

https://twitter.com/briebriejoy/status/1756790217875325412?s=20

https://twitter.com/prem_thakker/status/1757116958091145421?s=20

https://twitter.com/halalflow/status/1752802130740588813?s=20

https://twitter.com/AssalRad/status/1752442319356481710?s=20

https://twitter.com/tayab_ali_/status/1751366170131808316?s=20

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/21/world-condemns-uss-latest-un-security-council-veto-on-gaza-ceasefire

It has been months of Biden committing these absolutely heinous actions. I am mad at HIM for what HE is CURRENTLY doing. You expect me to go into a voting booth this November and vote for him while he allows, supports, and contributes to some of the most horrific carnage I've ever seen? One of the most powerful men in the world sits idly by and let's this happen:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/153e1f68.jpg

And I'm supposed to want to vote for him? I shouldn't want better? Fuck that