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Dang good for him for standing up for his beliefs. Everyone has different beliefs in the smash community. Not everyone agrees with each other. They shouldn't discriminate Christians.

jumi posted...

If God doesn't want anyone to go to hell, he could just... not send them to hell.

God would not be God if He were unjust. Sin separates us from God. Because God is perfect, He cannot allow evil to go unpunished. And yet God still loves us. So He came down in the flesh to die for our sins. To take our justified punishment so we won't have to. This is the gift of grace.

For those who believe in Him, they shall not perish but have everlasting life. No one has to go to Hell. Everyone has the free choice to decide whether or not to follow God or to deny God. God has already paid the price. Now it's up to you whether you want to follow Him.

*spoilers*

One of the primary focuses of the movie is the dialogue between Brendan Fraser and the young man who is trying to get him repent and accept Jesus. Brendan Fraser's character completely rejects God throughout the movie and even places blame upon himself for telling his deceased boyfriend that he doesn't need God, he only needs him.

Because his deceased boyfriend rejected God and the church, he was filled with so much guilt that he took his own life. You could tell there was a great conflict within him as it is shown in the movie. He had a verse in his bible bookmarked and highlighted that obviously meant a lot to him. If I'm remembering correctly, this was the verse "For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live." Romans 8:13

The boyfriend could not allow himself to repent and put to death the deeds of the body. In the same way, Brendan Fraser could not allow himself to repent and live according to the spirit. Their lives of sin brought them to their end.

This movie is a powerful demonstration of the life of complete rejection of The Lord. But it is also an example of His grace by bringing the young man to him multiple times to plead with him. God wants reconciliation with us. He does not want us to go to Hell. Do not reject His spirit. Search for God and read His Word.

We do not have to die in our sins. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. He has died for our sins and paid our debts. Only He can free us from the bondage of sin.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing when I watched the terrible new episode of The Mandalorian. It's just so bland and screams of corporate cheese.

Better than 7 fo sho

Loves God
Submissive
Feminine

Nice playing y'all again. GG's

This was already out years ago. I played it in English like 6 years ago

This is why they need to read the Bible at schools.

At any rate, this is getting really derivative. The fact that I have to ask you to look at Peach's demeanor in non mainline sports games just shows there's no compelling argument against all the data we have of who Peach is from the video games being different from the Mario movie thus far.

Game Over.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Okay so I just played a few games and she was throwing bombs and running people the fuck over with bullet bills and lightning bolts.

Okay that's a great observation of everything I didn't mention lol nice try.

Everyone does the same thing in Mario Kart. But everyone has different personalities. Look harder.

Foppe posted...

So how are her persona in the sport titles?
Mario Party games?
Kart games?

Go watch gameplay of Peach and pay attention to her demeanor, how she moves, and her powers (if any). Then let me know if you think it matches with movie Peach

Tyranthraxus posted...

There is nothing prior to the movie. This is literally the first time Mario has been in the Mushroom Kingdom and it's even before meeting Donkey Kong.

Bruh. I don't mean prior to the movie as in prior to the in movie's story. I mean prior as in the character models in which they were built from aka the game.

If I use it the way you're saying, that means Peach will switch from a more masculine demeanor to a more feminine demeanor in future movies. (We'll see if that happens)

Foppe posted...

They are all plays, telling a story directed by Miyamoto.
Just like this movie.

Okay so in the post where you said Miyamoto said SMB3 and Paper Mario were stage plays and all the characters were actors, you actually meant to say ALL of the Mario games are stage plays?

Considering that to be true, it doesn't change anything. It's irrelevant as the characters are consistently the same throughout all "stage plays". No grounds for deviation in character personas have been cemented prior to the movie.

AceMos posted...

so you cant tell me what a feminine trait is in this case

she still showed elegance and grace in the trailer she still wears a dress we even see her use a fire flower in a dress

peach is not some submissive person like you seem to think

We will see in the final product. Don't act as if you don't know what feminine traits are.

Again, people are trying to reframe my argument. I gave an example of Peach's role in the mainline games and her relation to Mario and compared them to movie Peach and Mario. And they do not add up.

This is not debatable. It's not an accurate portrayal of Peach or Mario.

If you like it, that's great. Never said you couldn't like it. I'm saying that this isn't the same Peach and Mario from the games. Take it or leave it.

Foppe posted...

...they are actors showing a story...

Okay, I already read that. Read my post again.

11 mainline games. 3 of which (including SMB3 as a stage play), Peach does not need rescuing. That is a little more than 27% of the time that Peach does not need to be saved.

Foppe posted...

If we are digging into the lore, then SMB3 and the Paper Mario series are clearly stage plays, and Miyamoto have said that the Mario cast is 'a troupe of actors,'.

Okay great. So out of 11 mainline games, Peach needs to be saved 73% of the time.

AceMos posted...

what is a feminine trait in this case

I don't believe this is a real question so I'll answer simply by telling you to play all the Mario games and focus on Peach's role, demeanor, the way she uses her emotions to fight in Super Princess Peach, and what she does for Mario. Then maybe you can reply and tell me what you've learned if Peach is either masculine or feminine.

AceMos posted...

errr who says she cant be feminine and badass?

No one is saying that. Women can be feminine and badass. But that isn't what we see from Peach in the trailer. Remember feminine traits are different than masculine traits. Peach shows way less femininity in this trailer than she ever has in any Mario game.

HudGard posted...

SMB2: Fully playable hero
SMB3: Peach helps and advises Mario through the first several worlds
SMW: Somehow smuggles Mushrooms and fights off Bowser briefly enough to toss them to Mario
Mario RPG: Fully playable hero
Paper Mario 1/2: Outsmarts Bowser and his goons and feeds intel to Mario. Actively empowers Mario during the final bosses so they can be defeated
Super PM: Fully playable hero

Just because shes kidnapped or often the victim, doesnt mean shes weak, incapable, or clueless. It would be silly to build a character for a movie based solely on their victimhood.

The problem is that you are arguing something else completely. I'm not arguing because Peach is saved by Mario a vast majority of the time that means she's weak, incapable, or clueless.

I'm arguing that the portrayal we're seeing of Peach in the movie compared to the portrayal we've seen in all the games prior don't match up.

In all the aide and assistance Peach has given Mario, she has always been portrayed as 100% feminine. She never took the badass, eyerolling because Mario is incompetent, role.

The data is out there and it doesn't match up. And if the vast majority of the time, Peach needs to be saved, then by golly they should implement that iconic dynamic between Bowser, Mario, and Peach that we've played for years.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Wrong.

If you're going to count this bullshit then you may as well just list every game except for SMB1 as peach having a critical and necessary role in Mario's success.

That's my mistake, been years since I've played that game so I forgot she wasn't kidnapped. But she was freed from her castle nonetheless.

But let's go ahead and give you that one.

Peach wasn't kidnapped and was competent but not to the detriment of Mario. So out of 11 mainline games, Peach has a little over 27% of times where she wasn't kidnapped by Bowser and one of them was in a dream world.

Let's look at several Mario games to get a better understand of Peach.

Super Mario Bros:
Princess Peach has been kidnapped. Mario saves her.

Super Mario Bros 2:
Princess Peach is a playable character but not to the detriment of Mario. Both are competent.

Super Mario Bros 3:
Princess Peach has been kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario World:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario 64:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario Sunshine:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario Galaxy:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario Galaxy 2:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

Super Mario 3D Land:
Princess Peach is captured and saved by Mario.

Super Mario 3D World:
Princess Peach is competent but not to the detriment of Mario. Both are competent.

Super Mario Odyssey:
Princess Peach is kidnapped and saved by Mario.

These are all the mainline titles I can think of but I might be missing some. I think it's more than fair to say there is a definite pattern in how Princess Peach is portrayed. She is not a masculine woman by any means. She's been portrayed as dainty, petite, and has used feminine traits like using her emotions to fight in Super Princess Peach.

We have never seen her teaching Mario how to be competent as he bumbles along the way.

She has always, always, been portrayed as feminine to the highest degree.

So out of 11 mainline games, Princess Peach has only assisted in battle (keyword assisted not teach Mario how to be competent) twice and one of them was in a dream world.

It is a perfectly fair assessment to say that Princess Peach so far has not been given an accurate representation in the Mario Movie thus far.

And this is what I mean by role reversal. They didn't just give Peach competence and formidability, they made Mario significantly LESS competent and formidable.

I will reserve final judgement until I see the movie but it's not looking good for Peach so far.

I also didn't even list the Paper Mario games.

We can say Peach is competent at Tennis, Racing, Soccer, Fighting, etc. But when it comes to Bowser, she gets kidnapped overwhelmingly higher than not.

I mean the psy op to make you guys care so much about what he says worked pretty efficiently.

I don't love or hate him. He's just another puppet.

How is Big Boss not on the poll?

GrandConjuraton posted...

No response? Unsurprising.

I said we're on the brink of WW3 and people are saying the previous leadership was worse. We gotta zoom out a bit, bro.

Anyway, just some food for thought. We need to not be so divided and not demonize each other. God bless you all.

Umbreon posted...

It's funny how he talks about Trump "standing up to China" (Despite his cheap red hats being made in China), yet acts as if sucking up to Putin was a good thing.

lol I ain't Maga. Never owned a red hat and never will. Republicans are super corrupt. And so are Democrats.

I just don't understand why people are so afraid of going from an insanely corrupt leadership to another. It's like bro we've been in this situation for a while. And comparing this corrupt leadership to the last, I'm not seeing the last leadership being worse than our current situation.

What needs to happen is to get rid of the policies that enable corrupt politicians. Like massively shorten term limits, bringing in Voter ID to prevent foreign interference, getting rid of corporate lobbying, etc.

We're on the brink of WW3 and people are saying Trump was worse. It's like man let's zoom out a bit and look at the bigger picture.

Ikzai posted...

our allies fucking hated us under trump

I don't remember this being the case at all. Israel loved Trump. Trump also historically brought North Korea out of its temper tantrum. Also remember how escalated things were with Russia before Trump was elected? We didn't have such an issue with Russia under Trump.

Remember when Trump stood up to China? Remember when our borders were in considerably less chaos under Trump?

I feel like I saw a different reality than y'all lol.

Zeeak4444 posted...

cause statistically speaking the country almost always preforms worse on every measurable metric.

Weren't we considerably doing better under Trump? Especially Economically and Foreign Policy.

What is so scary about the Republicans taking over?

They should make Red unbeatable in a Pokemon game just to show his true power. Like imagine finding him and his Pokemon have perfect IV and EV stats and level 500 Pokemon and there's no way you can level up that high. Then when you lose he says that his bond with his Pokemon is stronger than your desire to win.

Umbreon posted...

Galactic bass pretending he doesn't understand why the context of the shirt and the person who wore it isn't supportive of white supremacists.

Where is this information?

Wait this is all because of a shirt? Why should we be mad about this?

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Emperor Newsom pls