Lurker > Mr Lasastryke

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I always have to laugh at people that use the term "enlightened centrism" unironically. Imagine being so brainwashed and mentally deficient that any position besides blind support of an arbitrary and poorly defined "ideology" is seen as a negative.

imagine feeling superior to the left and the right just because you don't take a side.

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LeonhartFour posted...

I would be surprised because I have not seen people express any sentiment stronger than apathy for Hulk

looks like someone didn't read the gauntlet crew ranks the MCU movies topic.

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"nearly all comedy" is enlightened centrism? wut? i think george carlin was far from an enlightened centrist.

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batman begins and the dark knight were fantastic.

the dark knight rises was ok.

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swordz9 posted...

You ask me since I dont identify as any political anything nor do I think Im too cool to care.

it sounds like you're too cool to care if you phase it as "political garbage," though. like "oh i'm too cool for this garbage."

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i was done with south park when they started shitting on richard dawkins. that seemed exactly like the kind of enlightened centrism KP was talking about.

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uh yeah, i think people hate caitlyn jenner because she's a terrible person, not because "she doesn't feel the same way i do about being trans."

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

What the hell are you talking about? My beef has nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with the style of bullshit/shallow "influencer" personalities. Abby sucks, Ben sucks, Voidburger sucks, and all 3 are dumb millennials that don't play video games that don't contribute to their "schtick".

what's a "bullshit/shallow 'influencer' personality"?
why does it matter that they're millennials?
aren't you a millennial?

so many questions.

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italian spiderman is gonna be in no way home

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sure

fun fact: did you know that it was originally called "interlude"

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dark link

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all i can say is that in my perception, i'm not a massive dick because 1) i don't want to be one, so i'm trying not to be one and 2) my friends and family don't seem to think i'm one. however, i could be wrong. i'm always open to having my perception challenged. but if people just repeat "you're a massive dick" over and over and don't give me any proof, there's nothing i can do with that.

as for me being insecure - sure. i think i've talked about my insecurities plenty in the mental health topic. not sure how this is entirely relevant to whether or not i'm a dick, though.

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i'm not saying anyone has to do anything. just saying that if you're trying to convince me/make me improve my posts, you need to put in a little more effort than this. not sure what response you expect from me when you essentially say "you're a massive dick" with 0% evidence. of course i'm just going to dismiss that as utter nonsense.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Because not all of us are Ulti and archive posts for future use when people refuse to admit to things they've done.

that's no excuse. nowadays, you can easily look up old posts on GMUN's site.

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HashtagSEP posted...

You absolutely fly into your fuck off mode with very little provocation. The fact multiple people are telling you this should be a wake up call, not a lol youre all hilariously wrong.

funny how none of these people are able to back up this accusation with any evidence whatsoever.

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RaidenGarai posted...

I said that you're extremely thin skinned and get offended over the smallest things because of your history on this board, not your objection to this topic.

If someone says anything to you that could be perceived as negative (in your own eyes) you instantly fly into a barrage of "fuck offs" and "fuck yous" at that person. Clearly I'm not the only one that sees this pattern from you, based on how others in both topics have responded. If you don't want people to call you thin skinned, stop being so thin skinned. Try to be a little more self aware. If you're about to go to the keyboard and start typing fuck you messages to people, maybe take a deep breath or two. Count to twenty. Get up and walk away from the keyboard. Nothing people say about you on board 8 matters in the slightest, but you can't let anything go without responding to defend yourself.

oh ok.

well, you didn't provide anything resembling evidence for me "flying into a barrage of 'fuck offs' and 'fuck yous'" for no reason (neither did cly, btw), so i'm just going to respond to this by saying you're hilariously wrong.

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Emeraldegg posted...

Honestly the thing that bugs me the most and is giving me the most hesitation to see Lasa's side of this topic is...

Well, like it was said, the topic worked. Lasa apologized and admitted they shouldn't have been such a dick about it both before and after the facts came out and should've done more research, and even got an apology from someone in return.

Knowing that, it's really hard to think that if such a topic gets someone to change an objectively bad behavior, both in relation to themselves and with others (checking sources better, interacting better with others) that it wasn't a good thing to do. Like it sucks it had to come to this but if Lasa had just done this as soon as Stan Lee's thing came out and he went "oh crap, well I guess I was wrong this entire time, I'm sorry I was a dick to people for showing me how my opinion was wrong" then this topic wouldn't have felt "necessary" from biscuit's point of view.

I guess a better way to put it, would be Biscuit probably doesn't have the clear cut moral highground to outright shame someone from this argument, but they have more of the highground to do so than Lasa does to be upset that it was done.

i can understand how it seems this way but this isn't actually true. like i said, the reason i apologized was because i thought about certain posts in the baldwin topic and realized there were some good points in there. also, the topic was moving so fast that i missed a few posts that also contained good points (i had to go back and catch up on everything). if biscuit had never made this topic, i would have just apologized in the baldwin topic. ok, maybe some of cly's early posts in this topic also helped me change my mind a little, but this topic really didn't do that much to change my perspective. and i certainly didn't change my mind or apologize because biscuit said "hay guys look what an idiot lasa is being."

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colliding posted...

that being said, that topic had been thoroughly derailed due largely to Lasa themselves in my opinion, so it's kind of a case of provocation.

i've derailed tons of topics over the years and this has almost never resulted in someone creating a new topic to mock me, like i said. i'm pretty flabbergasted that someone would even think to do such a thing or that this would be considered "classic board 8 poking fun" or "funny good natured ribbing," and that i would get accused of being an "extremely thin skinned person who gets worked up and offended over the smallest things" because i objected to this topic.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

And that's not why I made this topic. It was to get the discussion out of the other one

you were still arguing about the MJ shit in the other topic after you created this one so this is bullshit.

literally the only reason you made this topic is because you thought i "deserved" to be shamed in a separate topic for making bad posts in the baldwin topic.

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CoolCly posted...

yeah, this is classic board 8 poking fun. i dunno how you could have made it so many years here and think this topic is at all strange. i wouldnt say this topic is even that hostile, i don't know how friendly you are with Biscuit in general but I think he would have made this topic about any of his closer b8 friends.

dude, he literally just said he just made this topic "to clown on me" and because "i deserve to be laughed at." not sure why you're trying to make this out to be friendly ribbing when it's clearing not.

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PerfectChaosZ posted...

But it worked, didn't it? You didn't admit you were wrong till the topic.

i mostly admitted i was wrong because i let certain posts in the baldwin topic sit for awhile and realized that there were some legitimate points in there. biscuit making this topic didn't have shit to do with it.

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i like how one of my insulting posts was modded and i got a NWD for the other one.

consistent gamefaqs moderation at it again.

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oh she was cool in the retsupurae videos i've seen her in.

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CoolCly posted...

I understand Lasa doesn't feel good about being called out- but sometimes when you are being very hard headed and unable to hear anything outside your own perspective, you need calling out.

this topic was fully warranted

you think the way privatebiscuit went about it was constructive? you think it was likely that my response to this was going to be "gee, now that he made a topic basically calling me an idiot, i realize the error of my ways"?

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Nanis23 posted...

But Lasa is right about the social side
This topic is really uncalled for and in a poor taste

thanks.

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Corrik7 posted...

This topic is funny. Just admit when you are wrong, man.

i already did

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i forgot about that ceej sig. that was pretty good.

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colliding posted...

can I just say that I think Zendaya is actually playing a new MJ meant to evoke memories of multiple of peter parker's girlfriends and not just "mary jane watson?" I would argue that she's meant to embody the smarts of carlie cooper and michele gonzales, who had been recently introduced in the comics. which isn't to say that they're going to introduce a "real redhead MJ" in the future or anything, just that this is actually more like a new character than just a race-swapped MJ.

yeah, like i said, i forgot about the "call me MJ" scene, but i personally took that as just a nod to the comics. i didn't take that moment to be a big reveal where we were supposed to go "ahhh, now i get it! she's mary jane in these movies!"

as for the "even STAN LEE said she's mary jane!" thing that a lot of people apparently thought was a slam dunk that completely destroyed my argument in the baldwin topic, it seemed like he was just asked for commentary on the wrap article and he responded with "oh if zendaya is playing mary jane, i think that's cool"? it didn't seem like he had inside information on who all the actors in homecoming were playing. also, i know we all love stan lee, but he got shit wrong too sometimes. go look up how he took credit for stuff jack kirby did at marvel for decades or the hilarious alan moore video where he explains how lee said he created captain america when the character was actually created by joe simon and kirby - lee wasn't even working at marvel/atlas yet at the time.

i can see both sides, though. not going to say you're objectively wrong if you say "i think zendaya is mary jane," it's just a different perspective.

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StealThisSheen posted...

I apologize for calling you a child, but in my defense, it was quite literally in response to you going into your "fuck off you fucking piece of shit" tirade, which is childish.

Like, you can't be complaining about "toxic rhetoric" when half of it is in response to your own toxic rhetoric. You devolve into the "fuck off"s rather often.

i lost my shit because i couldn't believe someone made a topic specifically to say "HAY GUYS HERE'S A TOPIC TO LAUGH ABOUT WHAT AN IDIOT LASA IS BEING." that's just unreal - that goes way beyond a stupid argument about the name of an MCU character. i think in all my years on this board, only sess has done something similar to me. people can say i should just ignore this all they want, but i think i have a right to fight back when i'm insulted this badly.

anyway, thanks for the apology, i appreciate it.

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RaidenGarai posted...

I dealt with far worse than youre a fucking idiot who cant read almost every day in 6th grade, and I handled it better than you are now as an adult (at least I assume youre an adult).

i've dealt with far worse insults too. doesn't mean "you can't read" and "you're a fucking child" aren't insults.

the fact that toxic rhetoric like this gets normalized is exactly what's wrong with this board.

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kevwaffles posted...

It's amazing how many times you can take this stance with different people and not see the common denominator.

the common denominator is "board 8"

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RaidenGarai posted...

You need thicker skin dude. This is so mild.

if essentially saying i'm a fucking idiot who can't read is "so mild," i'd love to know what your idea of an insult is.

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alright, i will admit that there were certainly major problems with my MJ example. i completely forgot about the "call me MJ" scene in homecoming. and i didn't realize that stan lee and james gunn - as well as several perfectly credible news sources - also reported that zendaya was going to play mary jane at the time. so yeah, even if the story had been total bullshit, i can't really call out the wrap on this one. if infowars reports something, i can't specifically call them out if reuters also reports the same thing.

i sincerely apologize for being so condescending and confident in my stances when i shouldn't have been. i totally screwed up on this one. i will try to do better.

(the people who thought it was necessary to insult and belittle me over this can still fuck off, though)

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oh right, i should answer this

CoolCly posted...

Hey Lasa, hypothetical question. if you were to start saying "fuck off" and calling people "piece of shit", does that mean you are actually really mad in that scenario, or is that something you do ironically and are actually just having a giggle m8

i was definitely mad when i made those posts. i don't take people insulting me lightly.

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HashtagSEP posted...

I mean, its literally the example you gave.

yes, and in the literal next post i gave a different example and said that i "didn't really care about the MJ example," so...? seriously don't get why you're trying to paint the discussion as if the MJ example was my entire argument for saying the wrap is not good. like, even if the MJ story was total bullshit and zendaya were called gwen stacey in the movies, i still wouldn't have attacked the wrap if that were the only thing they ever got wrong. obviously, every news outlet gets a story wrong from time to time.

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still don't really get why the truffaut's law thing became such a big deal but it is funny how inviso and scarlet made the same joke in the span of a few minutes!

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HashtagSEP posted...

You tried to call a source crap because

...no. it was an example. i wasn't saying "the wrap sucks because they got one story incorrect." i've been reading movie news sites for years and the wrap just isn't very good. but if you guys want to believe the wrap is an amazing source, be my guest.

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i like how privatebiscuit completely ignored my post before making this hilarious topic about how i'm a fucking idiot who can't read, btw:

this... completely proves my point? what do you think they're trying to say with the "pseudonyms are often used" line? they're clearly saying "michelle is just a pseudonym used for the character during production, the character is going to be called mary jane in the movie." which is false, as we now know.

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HashtagSEP posted...

Dude, you were being super condescending in that other topic. You get super aggro, and people are bound to get aggro back. You need to take a deep breath sometimes and take a step back instead of doubling and tripling down and acting like everybody else must be an idiot.

HashtagSEP posted...

This might be the dumbest, most nitpicky argument Ive ever seen.

yeah, this wasn't a needlessly aggressive response to my post at all! you were just trying to have a nice, normal conversation and then i escalated it for no reason!

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

As much as I like a good tantrum, Lasa you should really just step away and chill because this isn't actually a big enough of a deal to start flipping out over like this.

I almost jumped in on what you said last night but I said "Nah I don't really want to get into an argument with Lasa of all people." And then when you started using silly arguments about it when I'm a pretty huge comic buff, I decided to jump in.

Just chill dude. It wouldn't have escalated to this point if you weren't so aggro towards people over this.

maybe you should have made this "just chill dude!" post before dedicating an entire motherfucking topic to how i'm apparently a fucking idiot who can't read

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Leonhart4 posted...

But if this story is the worst thing you can think of, it's not that bad.

it's not. literally said this back in post #46:

Mr Lasastryke posted...

but if you guys want a different example, the wrap also reported that deadpool was going to have a cameo in logan when the movie was in early production (thank god that never happened lol). i don't really care about that specific example, my point was that the wrap is pretty crap.

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HashtagSEP posted...

No, you fuck off. You were wrong, acted condescending about it (point out where MJ has ever been black in the comics and then apologize when you cant!), and now that your shit was called out and proved wrong by multiple people, you turn into a fucking child like you always do, with your fuck offs and your piece of shits.

If you cant handle being wrong about something and getting reacted to in turn when you act like a douchebag, then get off the internet until you can grow the fuck up.

shut the fuck up shitsack

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fuck off you fucking piece of shit

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Hey everyone move anything about Lasa not being able to read into this topic please god bless:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79729577

fuck off

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

"At least one recent draft of the script has Zendayas character dropping several clues to her identity as Mary Jane, one of the most familiar love interests in the Marvel superheros universe and played by Kirsten Dunst in Sam Raimis 2002-07 movie trilogy starring Tobey Maguire as the webslinger.

Zendaya, the star of the Disney Channel series Shake It Up! and K.C. Undercover, was cast back in March to play a key role as a character named Michelle.

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Given how secretive superhero movie castings can sometimes be, pseudonyms are often used."

dude, read the fucking article

this... completely proves my point? what do you think they're trying to say with the "pseudonyms are often used" line? they're clearly saying "michelle is just a pseudonym used for the character during production, the character is going to be called mary jane in the movie." which is false, as we now know.

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Leonhart4 posted...

It's a strange article to point to as proof that their info is often wrong. It just means they might have drawn the wrong conclusion from the info they received.

i didn't say they're bad just because their info is wrong. sometimes it is, other times they jump to wrong conclusions based on correct info they receive. both things make you less credible as a news soruce.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Ok to add an even more funny layer to Lasa flipping out over this, the original article he complained about that said Exclusive: Zendaya is Mary Jane Watson literally says her characters name is Michelle, lol:

https://www.thewrap.com/zendaya-spider-man-homecoming-role-reveal-mary-jane-watson/amp/

dude, read the fucking article. it literally says "Given how secretive superhero movie castings can sometimes be, pseudonyms are often used." they're clearly not saying "zendaya is going to be playing a character named michelle in this movie."

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HashtagSEP posted...

You realize hes not actually agreeing with you, right?

Hes saying its a logical conclusion, while youre trying to use it to say they arent at all credible.

i don't disagree that it's a logical conclusion, i'm saying that they shouldn't have confidently presented it as 100% fact. the wrap pulls this kind of shit all the time. they hear a rumor that might have some truth to it (or not, in the case of "deadpool will be in logan") and because they always want to be the source with the "hot scoops," they immediately present it as a fact instead of just addressing it as a rumor. that's why they're not very credible.

not saying they're infowars or whatever but there's much better movie news sources out there.

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HashtagSEP posted...

You tried to pull a gotcha by asking us to point out where Mary Jane had ever been black. We pointed out several instances where theyve changed the race or gender of an established character. You then tried to change the argument to Well it doesnt count because different name.

Mr Lasastryke posted...

...wut? first of all, the full name of zendaya's character is michelle jones.

not sure what you're blabbering about here because i literally made the "she has a different name in the movies" point back in my post responding to tony and cly. my argument was never "she's a different character in the movies just because she's black." obviously, that WOULD be an incredibly dumb argument because race swapping of characters happens all the time in movie adaptations of superhero comics (kingpin in the daredevil movie, the ancient one in doctor strange, etc).

But to answer your question on the names, yes. Taskmaster went from Tony Masters to Antonia something or other, for one example.

i don't know taskmaster that well but i assume that's two different people being a character at different points in the continuity? like norman osbourne and harry osbourne both being green goblin? that's not the same as what we're talking about here.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

This is the funniest post Ive seen in awhile, 10/10

not as funny as you saying michelle jones is the exact same character as mary jane watson, though

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