Lurker > Crescent-Moon

Also I'm going to challenge you to explain how that first post was anything other than hedging on me.

The only thing that's obvious is you've yet to post a single qualitative reason for calling me scum and are dodging it by metaing the guy I replaced.

Zzzzz

Actually I'm just going to reiterate it entirely:

UltimaterializerX posted... Trash scum player that gets rattled and emotional very easily, and needs teammates to do the heavy lifting. I've been on teams with her and she's made of glass. One bit of pressure from the game's heavy hitters and she'll make a mistake in-game, cry to her teammates about how she wants to replace out, and/or go inactive.

Legitimately a very good town player. If we give her some time, her alignment will become obvious soon enough.

UltimaterializerX posted... This is such a lame way to get confirmed as town but Ill take it. Given my own PM Im willing to confirm you too.

The scum team basically has to be Plum + Crescent + Tidus or Banana at this point.

What changed in 86 minutes I was not there for for you to go from "She's glass as scum and will crumble if she is and her alignment will be obvious eventually" to just straight up saying "Crescent is scum"?

The two posts are contradictory. One says to give me time, and the other completely disregards the previous stance.

And you in no way have explained this contradiction. You flat out ignored it the first time I pointed it out, and the second time you dodged it.

And that answer completely ignores contradicting your own stance 86 minutes after making it.

Nice try~

It's rare-at-best I continue to pay attention to a game after I die in it. It helps me mentally detox to just move on.

In PW Mafia town had a role that could talk in dead town chat and I didn't join it after being the first dead town and Ulti was like "wtf where is she?"

MikeTavish posted...

Opening the game with a soft main character claim and opening day 2 with a hard BP + main character claim definitely seems like something scum would do when he feels invincible though.

Sigh, I forgot how much I love mafia. It's so fun gaslighting myself and doubting everything I believe to be true.

"Fun"

Speaking of Ulti though. Repasting this:

Crescent-Moon posted... Do have one question for Ulti though:

You say to give me more time when I'm asleep.

By the time I wake up you're already saying I'm scum.

"Meow?"

Actually I'll clarify this further:

UltimaterializerX posted... Trash scum player that gets rattled and emotional very easily, and needs teammates to do the heavy lifting. I've been on teams with her and she's made of glass. One bit of pressure from the game's heavy hitters and she'll make a mistake in-game, cry to her teammates about how she wants to replace out, and/or go inactive.

Legitimately a very good town player. If we give her some time, her alignment will become obvious soon enough.

This is at 9:05

UltimaterializerX posted... This is such a lame way to get confirmed as town but Ill take it. Given my own PM Im willing to confirm you too.

The scum team basically has to be Plum + Crescent + Tidus or Banana at this point.

This is at 10:31

I still want to hear more about this sudden switch in mentality over a span of 86 minutes I wasn't even awake for.

MikeTavish posted...

If he's not actually BP why do you think he didn't come clean about it after I straight up told him I thought I was going to be giving him protection (possibly Bulletproof) powers when I die today?

There are two people I don't trust when they claim out of the blue: Ulti, and Corrik.

Like, to put it into perspective, Ulti is the kind of player who will suddenly claim cop with a scum scan as town vanilla.

TidusOfTheX posted...

I created a pastebin that has all the potential scenarios I can see
https://pastebin.com/8UFvTf0z
tell me which one seems worse as there is pretty much no difference if ulti is WoL

Mike is claimed not-town so being "forced to lynch town" is MikeTavish posted... technically
a misnomer.

Also, I believe Ulti's BP claim about as much as I curently believe this game will be fun and balanced to play.

A. Ulti lies a lot regardless of alignment
B. Who claims town BP right away on day 2 as town BP? This is exactly how you don't play town BP.

I have no idea what to make of all the flavor jargon at the moment. Kinda glad I don't know this flavor at this point.

Also.

I think it's time we count out Touchdown Tom.

And there's no argument he's the GOAT.

Isquen posted...

just antagonizing me for being dumb.

And this would be correct, yes.

I've come to see you as someone that requires needling to get talking.

And I'd say it's been effective~

I haven't heard of most of the things mentioned in this topic.

That's the point!

Football Team was fine because it was so generically unique!

The one time I tried to use host meta I got town power lynched with it day 1 and made the host quit his own game on day 3.

Hail Washington Commies

Wouldn't that be Washington Comrades

"Washington Commanders" announced.

Walnuts peanuts pineapple smells!

Grapes melons oranges and coconut shells!

Ok, admittedly that does make some sense.

This seriously isn't what I wanted to wake up to at like 3am on my off day.

Though I have to ask Mike something I should've already asked and I don't remember if anyone else asked him... Why do this so early in the day?

Result:

Has everyone gone mad today?

masterplum posted...

I actually am leaning scum on Ulti which is making my mantra of never trust a third party a little wishy washy

....

Processing.

Third point: I glossed over this the first time I read that post.

Calling someone a third party for putting you under very mild scrutiny is pretty bad.

And to further that point, the reason you claim I voted you is patently false and claims I've said things I've never at any point in the game said since I don't know the flavor and wouldn't have any idea if you were metaing a character or not in the first place.

I actually wonder if you're reading the game, or if you're just talking at people.

Um

Your post was "##Mike" out of nowhere. No reason. No context.

Only when pressured why did you actually give a reason. You're retroactively trying to claim you justified the vote before you made it, instead of after, and are ignoring that lack of justification is why I voted you in the first place.

red13n posted...

He was spouting out about Ulti being confirmed town all day.

I may have overlooked that part.

Thanks for confusing me even more, it's appreciated.

Annnnnd the page lagged so I thought the first one didn't post. Whoops~

MikeTavish posted... That's to Crescent, obviously, who seems to be under the impression that I'm trying to convince people not to kill me.

I have absolutely no idea what you're doing and I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out.

You're

A. Claiming indy
B. Claiming a role that shouldn't exist
C. Saying it's ok to kill you

Like... What the hell am I even supposed to try to make of that? This looks like some insane Corrik fakeclaim that's suddenly going to turn around and go really hard on Ulti near the end of the day.

MikeTavish posted...

That's to Crescent, obviously, who seems to be under the impression that I'm trying to convince people not to kill me.

I have absolutely no idea what you're doing and I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out.

You're

A. Claiming indy
B. Claiming a role that shouldn't exist
C. Saying it's ok to kill you

Like... What the hell am I even supposed to try to make of that? This looks like some insane Corrik fakeclaim that's suddenly going to turn around and go really hard on Ulti near the end of the day.

Not even going to try to guess!

But also not interested in giving him what he wants.

"Pure anti-town third party"?

Third parties aren't town. Do we have to go back to mafia 101 here?

Also reading the last page again Chris strikes me as curious and I want clarification of his thoughts.

You acknowledged Mike's claim as "staggeringly anti-town" but also seem to just accept it and say.. We could lynch Ulti just to be "safe"

In what world is following a claimed Indy a "safe" play?

Do have one question for Ulti though:

You say to give me more time when I'm asleep.

By the time I wake up you're already saying I'm scum.

"Meow?"

Oh and we are under no circumstances lynching Ulti today when the other person is a claimed indy that says they specifically were aiming for Ulti.

Isquen completely ignored the actual reason why I voted him and replaced it with nonsense. I don't know the flavor. I never once called him Uriwhatever.

I voted him for intentionally skirting around the top two lynches without providing anything towards either of them. I only unvoted when he gave something actually tangible.

Also what's going on now seems super duper dumb and makes me glad I haven't tried much yet.

Also: In the least shocking news of the day, the Packers have fired their Special Teams Coach.

Maybe this time.

This time will be different!

Belichick does not make... "mistakes".

UltimaterializerX posted...

We could just kill Plum now.

The last thing you posted was about killing Red. Then you vanished for 40 seconds.

htaeD posted...

Day ends literally in 2 minutes. And I am not voting someone unclaimed.
I will add that Mike further boosted my resolve to keep my vote on Bat

No no, the what was about your reasoning to begin with.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

On the bright side Mike is probably town either way as it seems very not mafia to be like 'bg? No way bro I have a role' so that is nice.

Agree with this.

It's part of why Isquen's vote stuck out to me even worse.

htaeD posted...

I will say it wasnt the slip that did it for me.
It was the way he stuck his tongue out afterwards
If I misjudged his character I will accept the blame for that and apologize in advance. But right now I am stuck anyway. I dont see myself changing my vote.

...What?

Leafeon13N posted...

The answer to my question influenced the second part.

Mike saying he's not going to answer you... Made you that much more confident on Bat?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I just woke up and am displeased with this. Did he fail or are you guys going against a lot of sound mafia principles.

This might be the least active final hour of a day I've ever seen in a mafia game.

So basically, Isquen just explained his Mike vote in a roundabout way I had to force out of him instead of just... Actually saying he thought Bat was town and he thought Mike was scum voting Bat. Then he gets cute with it and hedges on basically everything.

Isquen is being intentionally obtuse for funsies, and I'm not going down that rabbit hole with 30 minutes left in the day.

##Unvote

I'd rather talk Red.

Crescent-Moon posted...
A. Red's barely doing anything day 1 is fairly normal. Reg agreeing that anything day 1 is a "slam dunk" is not.
B. This feels like he's noncommittally nudging the Bat train.

Red, shortly before you agreed with Mike that Bat is a "slam dunk", you asked Mike to clarify more. If you're that sure on Bat, why even ask Mike anything?

htaeD posted...

Always a 1 % chance that his role forces him to act like this. But I hope not.

Roles that force people to act differently shouldn't exist.

Oh wait now I get it. To sum up your post:

That's your actual job.

Bat is town.

Red is neutral.

Isquen posted...

Second shift librarian.
A useful scapegoat.
See above.
Results unclear. Ask again later.

I feel like I'm being mocked.

Isquen posted...

I'm also a full timer, unfamiliar with most people here other than Ulti's shenanigans, and ill IRL to boot. Perhaps my voting is a different measure of fishing?

A full timer... What?

What is your opinion of Bat?

What is your opinion of the train on him?

What is your opinion of Red?

htaeD posted...

Okay I may have undersold his behavior with that word, but it was me referencing how he apparently is roleplaying his character?
Not an excuse by any stretch of the imagination. And yes he has been useless I concur.

(Also Mzero can respect that vote? The hell?)

I missed a couple of things when I was posting but yes, this seems like a good thing to ask for an explanation for. It's not like MZero has done much today either.

What is there to "respect" about a late, out of context splinter?

htaeD posted...

I concur that Isquens gimmick has finally gotten to the point where it should stop.

"Gimmick"?

He's actively avoided providing anything resembling content all day.