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i made about 13 million gil this expansion so far.

usually i only have like 4mil max.

i didn't do anything in particular, just played a lot, leveled my crafters to 90 and sold any extra leve stuff i didn't need, sold lots of bicolor gem mats from fates, and just lots of desynth.

i impulsively spent all of it earlier to fully pentameld my crafters, which i already regret considering my raid leader had offered to make everyone's gear anyway on tuesday morning so i really didn't need to do it.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Instructions unclear; continuing to stand in leylines through mechanics and continually casting Fire IV

it was a test; the only reason i gave you instructions was to see if you could ignore them. congrats, you're a true black mage.

The Mana Sword posted...

cast fire 4

uhhhhh pretty sure i just showed that you don't actually

yes

the rotation is Blizzard III -> Paradox -> Transpose -> Paradox -> Despair -> Repeat

agesboy posted...

iirc early shadowbringers, ninjas figured out a rotation that was slightly more potency than intended and it died before first savage

well, there is currently a 99 parse on BLM for the first extreme trial that doesn't cast a single Fire IV

(spoilers)
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/bLVk3ZarRd9whcN2#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=7

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/7/AAdoZGAACvqJ.jpg
i think not!

sorry lol these things just amuse me

MoogleKupo141 posted...

Yaag Rosch

okay i did remember the name of the main villain but this name i had to look up because i had literally 0 recollection of it, nor of anyone in the story who even fit the role you described

my hot prediction is they are working behind the scenes on making the entire game 100% solo-able. i think they want to retroactively make every dungeon doable with either trusts or squadron or something new.

idk, maybe that's too unfeasible. i mean, trials in particular would be really hard this way.

but i think they want to, even if it's just a backburner thing or in the brainstorming phase

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Again you have to understand that a ton of people do not play this game regularly. They come around every few months or years to check out what's going on. You also can get absolute weirdos that level everything to cap via fates or Bozja in or doing all the sidequests in each zone, without even touching "normal" grouped content on most jobs. The important thing to understand here is the game is actually designed around this and that's part of why it's so successful.

right, you can tell the difficulty of the game has been trending in the direction of them trying to make it as hard to fail as possible

that's where the job design went in multiple jobs that got reworks - you can't drop enochian anymore, your bard skills all work even if you forget dots, if you lose huton it just takes 1 click to get it back

and it's where the extra tank self-healing and mitigation comes from, and etc

so that's why it's particularly surprising to hear there are DF groups that are still failing despite that

obviously none of that stuff prevents you from dying if you can't learn a mechanic though

when i played (like 10 years ago) the biggest was mostly UI addons from what i recall. the default UI was just horrible.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

FFLogs is one thing but add-ons for mechanic callouts and overlays in FF14, while they DO exist, are way more controversial in the community.

yeah hence why i said it's not the same at all, but the thing i think it has in common is the addons influencing the game

i'm glad the game doesn't rely on stuff like that

i played some WoW (casually) and i remember how refreshing it was to start FFXIV and not have to immediately start tinkering with a million different mods before i felt i could play the game

banananor posted...

i guarantee you have at 10k+ hours logged into action video games- yes, you are better than the median sampling of the population

??? no, i don't have 10k+ hours logged in to the genres i listed? lol. i have 10k+ hour in video games, but not those.

a lot of people play successful mmos outside of lifetime action gamers. a lot of the easy grinding, farming, old content, and crafting is targeted towards them

sure, that's a valid thing i was missing. yeah, this game may be attracting people who otherwise don't play games that require any real reflexes or learning, especially if they're playing to just see the story and then do farm/grind content.

complaining about newbies or the uncoordinated is not it, guys. in fact, the one thing that's supposed to be true about ffxiv is the positive and supportive community. (this is not targeted towards just you, obviously)

well a) some of us don't like the forced positivity vibes, but b) i'm not really complaining about newbies - if they were new, i'd understand it. it's when they're *not* new, and/or when they're clearly not even *trying*. if someone's at least trying, i don't care. and yeah, uncoordinated is one thing, but failing to clear a normal mode trial in an entire lockout, come on, that's pretty extreme. hence my wondering what on earth happened there. when i roll one of these trials i expect a wipe or two and a bunch of deaths, but not that.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

It's wild to me that people defend a game that requires you to install a 3rd party addon that tells you where to go.

Sounds like they lost control of their fights.

i think ffxiv has too, to a much much lesser extent and not quite in the same way

but i find it very hard to believe that the rise of FFLogs isn't part of what's contributed to fight design being streamlined, less adds, less downtime, no mechanics that'd randomly prevent a person from achieving a top parse (i.e. like being gaoled), etc

there's still a bit of that stuff, but much less of it.

maybe it's just because people don't like anything that stops them from pew pewing on the boss though, idk

what i always find so mindblowing about people being that bad at ffxiv is that, like, i consider myself really bad at most video game genres

like put me in any FPS or shooter i will literally run around clueless, not being able to dodge a single shot or hit a single opponent. i can't play any action games like devil may cry, bloodborne, etc, i have no reflexes, like i need zelda-style games where your only attack is a single sword swipe or it's too hard for me.

maybe i get the wrong impression because i don't see the bad players in those genres so i just assume everyone is good at them since they're super popular

but i can play ffxiv because, uh, it's just really easy. things are so telegraphed and they happen in the same order every time and you have 2.5 seconds between every button you have to press for your own fixed rotation

so how am i somehow in the, like, upper tier of skill in this game compared to all these people in duty finder...?

that's crazy

i mean i had multiple parties in week 1 where, like, a dozen people died and we recovered and cleared anyway. i can't imagine what it takes to actually just not clear.

i'm finding the same thing just for DF in general. i swear i had such a great streak of parties in everything for a few weeks, now i'm getting stuck numerous times with tanks who don't tank, healers who don't attack or use oGCDs, etc, the usual.

you can turn summoner pets small but you can't block the blinding light animations

unless you turn off *all* party members effects which you don't necessarily want to do just for one job

if it was, i don't think it could link mob #2 to mob #3 there since there's no connector

though sometimes it calculates some inefficient routes

(EW zone 4 map spoiler https://ffxivhunt.com/img_daily_route.php?i=38&r1=510-256_624-627_-&t=1640331324&r2=228-838_255-891_524-865_382-614_-&t=1640331324)

so i was googling to help me find a hunt mob and found this tool

https://ffxivhunt.com/hunt_d_route.php

you put in your daily hunts and it calculates a route and shows you all the locations

with this, new hunt bills is about 3 mil exp in ~15 minutes. pretty good.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Man, they REALLY boosted the EXP from regular hunts.

oh damn, i didn't even think to check this since the exp was so low anyway

dungeons got boosted by about 1.5x

but these seem like... 2.5x as much based on what i recall?

it's basically the equivalent to a fate now

UshiromiyaEva posted...

...I may set an alarm for Savage patch day if it's that lucrative.

I've been gathering the Ephemeral Sands and rare gathering nodes consistentally under the assumption they will be involved.

it's very lucrative, but your success will depend on whether or not your crafting gear is pentamelded. i'm not sure how feasible it is if it's not.

and yeah, you need to get in in the morning. by later in the day, the prices will have already dropped.

banananor posted...

as someone used to other MMOs, i wouldn't want to waltz into a raid without half-decent gear, even if i was allowed to, but i know ffxiv is usually different

yeah these normal raids are basically casual content. definitely not something anyone is concerned with ilvl in. you're thinking of the right attitude for savage.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I got to Rank 2 for the Fates, saw that didn't unlock anything, saw how mmay I would have to do to get to Rank 3 across the board, and decided to not engage with this system.

it's not really something to do for the sake of the rank 3s, i was just using the fates to powerlevel mindlessly, plus selling the mats was good money. reaching the rank 3s was just a bonus, it doesn't get you much i don't think

LordoftheMorons posted...

Can you buy those vouchers before maxing everything out? Theres not enough stuff to buy in the shops to avoid overcapping otherwise (unless youre buying mats)

i think you have to have all zoned maxed to buy them, unfortunately

before that i just spent all of mine on mousse flesh and lunatender blossoms, they were selling pretty well since they can be used to quick-level ALC. prices down now probably.

but if you're planning to level crafters, you'll also want lots of saiga hide, gaja hide, luncheon toad skin for LTW...

i don't remember what else

damn, just saw someone with the wivre mount already

that thing costs 500 bicolor gemstone vouchers, which is 50,000 bicolor gems. that's reaching the 1000 cap 50 times. a fate gives 14 gems so that's about 3600 fates.

or you can buy it:

i sold some vouchers on the market board and they were going for about 150k each, which means the mount is worth approximately 75 million gil

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

holy shit the radz-at-han night music

the TROMBONE ZONE

beautiful.

yeah, i can't get it out of my head

i've never noticed, but i can't tell if that's because we have different sound settings, or just because it doesn't bother me

if you point out a specific cutscene it's in we could watch it from the inn and confirm if we notice it

maybe i'm wrong idk don't trust me

i feel like its 6am usually

4am was just for the expansion

tcaz2 posted...

Leves are better for crafters than gatherers once you have collectibles.

maybe, but until you hit level 83/85/87/89 you're limited in which collectables you can turn on (only the lv81 one) and i was impatient so i did a few leves.

leves (sharlayan) and collectables (radz)

they really want people to do anything but play FFXIV huh

ExThaNemesis posted...

Did the expansion really do so well that they literally had to stop selling it due to server congestion?

The expansion release was the culmination point, but another big factor was Blizzard imploding culturally, WoW apparently getting really uninspired gameplay-wise for a while coinciding with that, and a bunch of famous streamers moving from WoW to FFXIV because of those things over the past year.

oh, i've gotten 2002s when i've been in for less than 15 minutes

the good news is they said they have a fix for some of the 2002 errors, which will be implemented with the patch tuesday

honestly, i suspected something was up with that. the explanation they gave ("it happens when there's over 17k people in queue") didn't make sense because you can get the error during non-peak-times, and also you get it when the queue is showing way less than 17k. (you could say maybe it means 17k per data center but no, if you added them up they'd be way more than 17k since servers all had like 3k at a time) so....

UshiromiyaEva posted...

All Crafters and Gathers maxed with all gear and equipment HQ crafted across the board.

Feels so good.

i started working on mine earlier

i leveled them all during like 5.3 and i assumed it'd be harder at the start of a new expansion without catch-up stuff like beast tribes and ishgard, but nah it's really fast!

helps that i did a ton of fate grinding to get bicolor gem mats so i could spam one collectable over and over to get my alc to 90. we'll see if the others are as easy...

well, me i guess. LOL. i basically forgot. i think some people reminded me. you kinda get it from the story here anyway.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I just mash X <_<

idk if i'm just really bad somehow but mashing a single button is never enough for me. hell even two buttons.

Xiahou Shake posted...

lol man I basically had the worst experience possible with the level 83 duty.

When the QTE came up to mash to regain consciousness, I mashed all of my keys like you're supposed to do for literally every non-Cruise Chaser QTE in the game but instead it opened up my map and a billion other windows. I panicked and wasn't able to close them all so I had to do the entire thing again. Almost failed again on the second try since I was feebly clicking my mouse instead of any keys since I didn't want to repeat that error. Sucks because that was a great idea for a duty and the moment kind of got spoiled by that. :(

You're not the only one. Except for me I spammed the novice network with asfasfsasa

yes

at this point i've just accepted error 90006 as a fact of life

which is unfortunate since it means no matter how early i log in, i'll just get kicked out and have to queue for a couple hours anyway

red13n posted...

Finally got on after 6 hours in queue.

Game immediately crashed and my spot wasn't saved.

you're not doing the two-windows open trick right? that can cause crashes, if it was 5003

tcaz2 posted...

In the final zone now. Should finish tomorrow.

It's really weird they did this because it literally doesn't fit the mood at all. I mean I sort of get what they were going for, but it just is so 'off'.

yeah, i legit thought this was a glitch, i tried to zone out and zone back to get the track to update properly. and.. it didn't. it was actually driving me insane, it was so annoying. didn't help that this was at like 6am after staying up all night playing.

its okay though i've pretty much done everything i want to do, i've got SMN/SCH, GNB, DNC 90, cleared both ex trials on all of them, with full set of ex trial weapons and accessories on all of them

so i don't really need to play more atm other than leveling a few more jobs for the future. mostly i want to get a crafter to 90 so i can self-meld, it's annoying not being able to

i woke up early today, logged in instant queue at 10:30am, did some roulettes, realized i needed more sleep, so went back to bed with my controller setting an alarm to press a button every 25 minutes

woke up again a couple hours later, did one roulette, and then got d/ced. now in a primetime saturday queue of 4000.

so worth it.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Literally contains a tribute to the worst questline in the entire game in it. Can't even make that shit up.

haha i did skip but i do remember having to do this and being very confused why it was a thing