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mccheyne posted...

Finally have a little more free time in my life, so gonna jump back to this! Still in early Stormblood if I remember correctly (avoided all earlier spoilers!), so I'll catch up eventually! Did indeed get Endwalker also.

you are likely to have trouble logging in unless you do so between like 4am to 12pm est. there are massive login queues, and you can sometimes bug out and crash, which loses your queue spot unless you re-open the game immediately and re-queue

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

So I'm reading the blog post on maintenance that went up this AM and it looks like they allocated more servers to reduce the 2002 errors? Has anyone run into them today?

i've been getting 90006 all day

i.e. you lag out and d/c from in-game

i was getting them in the morning, logging back in immediately and getting more, so i gave up.

just d/ced mid-expert roulette and now am in a 5000 queue.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Lol I was aksing the same thing.

What's the easiest way to farm aetheryte tickets?

masked carnival from what i've heard, weekly reward or something

The Mana Sword posted...

I'm a little concerned at what things are going to be like tomorrow once all the non early-access folks are trying to get in.

who are those people, though?

i'm not trying to gatekeep who is a "real FFXIV fan"

its just, i feel like most people who are invested enough in the game that they'd want to play "day 1" ("launch" day) would also be invested enough that they likely knew about early access and pre-ordering

so i'm not sure how many people really fit into this potential deluge of non-EA launch players

but maybe i'm lacking perspective

that mechanic is basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNy2KXEkLUg

i heard a trick some people are doing is having two clients open at once - you can bring a second one to character select without it kicking you out of your queue, then when the first one crashes, you just immediately save your queue spot by clicking your character name.

so i did that and i think it's what caused my d/c. because i started getting 5003 ("authentication error") during my queue, when i previously was only getting 2002s.

and then when i logged in, i got a 5003 as i crashed. (something else came before it but i didn't think to note what)

i made it in after 2 and a half hours and got d/ced 30 seconds later

i mean, it's not the worst time. at least it happened after I was done MSQ - i did the first ex trial last night too and even farmed it a bit this afternoon before power went out. bonus dungeons too.

so all i really have left is the second ex, i was planning on doing that tonight but oh well. maybe in a few hours if i'm lucky.

The Mana Sword posted...

Been logged in most of the day, but my power just went out and now Im stuck in a 4000 person queue

oh hey, same!

i logged in at 11am today to avoid the queues ;-;

i did everything i was supposed to ;-;

so whyyyyyy! of all the times!

DoomTheGyarados posted...

not a single soul is not doing this trust style lol.

even i did lol.

anyway, MSQ complete.

and no, i didn't skip a single cutscene the entire time...

well, the answer was "about 90 minutes away maybe" either way =P

though i could've been bad at gauging my time. it may be 2 hours even

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Not reading the spoilers, but out of curiosity how far am I from that 4th dungeon if I'm on the way to the 3rd landmass of the 5th area?

3rd landmass is still pretty long. i'm responding an hour late but you're probably still not there, maybe another half hour idk

Mac Arrowny posted...

Is it just me or is the third dungeon a lot like Holminster Switch? Apocalyptic atmosphere, people transforming...

that's what i said! but because i'm a story-hater and said it felt like a rehash i was told "what no they're totally different because it's dark instead of light, and the reason they're transforming is different, and..."

this may help me develop good habits though

i'm the type who does not get out of bed, hits snooze multiple times, etc

but the today and yesterday i've bolted out of bed the moment i realize i'm conscious XD

i've heard what those late afternoon queues are like and i don't want it

yeah i've been getting mostly lucky around noon time, which is good since i've been staying up all night and can't really wake up earlier than that

today i started at 2400 around 12:30pm est, down to 800 now with a few 2002 errors along the way, luckily it saved my spot

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Are the login issues mainly just late day/night?

I did have the 3900 queue Friday night around midnight, but between 10-11am yesterday and just now it was under 50.

East coast advantage I guess.

i've heard it's easy to get in in the morning EST yeah. gets worse starting around noon

DoomTheGyarados posted...

that boss was uh ???

yeah i had no idea what was going on during that either

oh. those are recoloured shire robe of casting

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also I haven't done any optional content for anything yet (I started playing again in july and rushed through and then relaxed) but is there a way to get the yellow/black suit get up for a glam? A few people have it.

also i don't know what this is. if you examine then you could find the name and google it

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I love you guys but I paid attention when they warn not to do any funny business lol

i mean so did i its just i forget

and *definitely* don't use a mini-aetheryte in town like i did... and then have to restart from the entrance -_-

also, SE writers take note if you didn't do this, but the ultimate tone-setting plot device for a shocking moment would be

(lv80 sharlayan spoilers) the flower that changes colours based on emotions. the group is all happy after some event... the world has been saved, there's absolutely no reason to be concerned anymore... the flower is happy-coloured... and then all of a sudden... it turns dark for some reason. someone nearby, someone we trust... is feeling deep hatred... insert plot twist of someone revealing themselves to be a villain here, or etc

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Man...there are a lot of flags here that I am very afraid to see come to fruition.

i think *lv82 sharlayan spoilers* there's clear potential for some sort of major plot twist with the introduction of the hidden memories thing. obviously the straightforward use is for the sharlayans to have forgotten their secret duty thing, but it's prime set up for some other character somewhere to have something super important that they've been made to forget all this time...

tcaz2 posted...

So I tried some new Summoner and uh

Wow this job needs... *something*. It does not feel like a complete job currently. It either needs like 2 more OGCDs (maybe that change with the phases) or some kind of additional mechanics inside of the summon phases or... I dunno.

It just feels really, really bare to play currently.

I hope it gets some work on it during the patch cycle, because aesthetically and job fantasy wise its never been better.

well if you're below level 86 you're missing the most important ability for adding extra buttons to the summon phases

i'm not 86 either so i'm waiting until then to fully judge

i know some people who are absolutely in love with it as it is now. even below 86. and i mean, like, hardcore orange parsing raiders lol who i expected to also feel it was too simple.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Garlemald Lv 82 quests

This thing with the Garleans that think Varis lives and is talking to them through the radio is some QAnon shit lmao

was my first thought too LOL

are there botting detection methods enough that they'd notice something like that?

i'm probably not going to do it but my static leader posted an autohotkey script for it that they're using so i'm curious

UshiromiyaEva posted...

I saw someone saying in shout chat that they've removed every known trick people were using to get past the auto logout.

what counts as a trick? i figured if you create a macro on your computer to just press some keys every few minutes to move, can they detect that...?

and yes it took that long because i've been forcing myself to watch cutscenes -_-

i couldn't sleep at all last night so i stayed up to 4, got in around 6, finished the first area by around 11am and just couldn't stay awake any longer, napped until like 3pm and got back in after just a 500 queue then luckily

DoomTheGyarados posted...

WoW has a billion and a half specs which work mostly how jobs do in FFXIV so...!

i feel WoW has more diversity of mechanics though? a lot of jobs have very similar bases in this game, particularly the healers and tanks. but i never played WoW beyond casual so i could be wrong.

that said i am consistently impressed at how unique most jobs feel despite a lot of them following the same formula of "1 2 3 combo, press ogcds off cooldown, build gauge and spend"

i could see there being only 1 job per expansion from here on out though

DoomTheGyarados posted...

the lobby crashed when I was down to 1000

oh no

same

heard that the people in the data-mining server who are posting all the leaks are saying they are surprised by the scale of the expansion

and we were already told it was going to be big!

Radix posted...

hopefully a DoT focused caster happens at some point

maybe just rework 2.0 summoner into something new

i think summoner still has some work before it's done

like, it's really awkward that the skill is still called "fester"

there's nothing to fester anymore lol. it only makes sense if you've poisoned them!

And yeah I haven't quite wrapped my head around how Bloodletter works now. I think you're right they corrected the problem but then re-corrected it in a way that the original correction makes no sense anymore.

Yeah, I was thinking of single target. For multi-target, it felt really great to DoT multiple enemies as the tank was pulling, then when they land you're set up to get an infinite number of procs.

I think they've said the DoT thing is because in large encounters, an enemy's HP bar will just have a million debuffs under it. They want less for technical reasons because once it goes past a certain point they just stop working I think, but also probably visually it's a lot of clutter.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Hmm...Bard got a lot of changes from the media tour which is a bit unnerving because the media tour build looked basically perfect to me. MB got nerfed in exchange for a third bloodletter stack (really don't understand the logic to this) and the tooltip for procs is extremely vague. The internet is doomsaying and interpreting this to mean procs are no longer based on dots which would be TERRIBLE but...I'll believe that when I see it.



WHEN do I get the 80% chance, yoshi-p??? what does this MEAN???

I am assuming the 80% on server tick, aka at the same time you'd get it from DoT ticks, except not based on the DoT anymore. It's just awkward because they have no way of saying that, most players don't know about server ticks.

And yeah, it's another in the long line of changes meant to simplify things. Same with Sidewinder not requiring the DoTs anymore either.

Honestly I get why people are upset, but in practice, I don't think it changes much - if you're playing properly you will have the DoTs up all the time anyway. Lowers skill floor by a lot though because it doesn't punish you for dropping the DoTs ever. And it does lower the thematic flavour of the job.

Xiahou Shake posted...

Ended up signing out about halfway through 5.5 - almost made it! Should be able to close out these last quests on Friday, then I'll be joining in on the hype just behind the front of the wave!

You can be there right with the new reapers and sages who are also taking a day to catch up to level 80!

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Other: Susan Sarandon

you joke but

https://twitter.com/NellSco/status/1466175410522234881

okay, i got curious so i watched some cutscenes on youtube

yeah, okay, i was wrong, fandaniel is NOT just a generic evil villain whose motive is to destroy the world because he's crazy.

he's clearly acting. it's too over-the-top. there's gotta be something else going on!

oh.

well i don't particularly have one.

i'm not really into the character archtype. he's alright though.

would anyone like to know my opinion on hien

ChainLTTP posted...

Chrono Cross is weirdly the kind of game that they could remake without infuriating the fans of the original. Just write in that this is some kind of alternate timeline/universe and voila.

I mean there's sort of a selection bias here where Chrono Cross fans are already, by the fact that they are Chrono Cross fans, "people who are okay with a game that is wildly different from the previous entry in the series"

So, yeah, maybe

I can't even imagine what a modern-day 3d remake of Chrono Trigger would be like

UshiromiyaEva posted...

And actually, I'm going to completely shit all over my own priorities here using another recent and extremely popular exanple: Hades. I love everything about that games story and characters. I was thoroughly engaged. Nothing is a higher priority for me.

But BOY do I hate playing that game, and as much as I want to continue and be engaged my the narrative, it's just way to difficult for me to keep myself invested.

well, hate is different than, uh, apathy.

like, if instead of it's gameplay, it was a bunch of turn-based random encounters where you could mostly win them all by just mashing A for attack, would that be better?

because that's what some JRPGs are like

UshiromiyaEva posted...

This is why it's a fruitless argument and can't be painted in broad strokes, as much as I've thrown my own fuel on the fire even against my own recommendation.

Because yeah...I think those Etrian Oddesey games are terrible. They're just boring, empty dungeon crawling with no real drive to me. I don't get them at all!

Obviously there are plenty of people who disagree, since it's a beloved series. It's all about your priorities.

lol, i'd say an argument is the opposite of fruitless if the people in it arrive at something they can agree on.

and that it was a good example to prove my point of enjoying gameplay without story =P

also i did say i like Emet-Selch! i'd say one of the best villains, or just characters, from an RPG for sure.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

SMTV is the most recent example. That game BARELY has a story, and I love playing it. But if it was the exact same game with LITERALLY no story, but everything else was identical...it would be a big pile of shit! No way I would play it.

Well, people play stuff like Etrian Odyssey for example, right? That's another vaguely "we don't have to imagine" example because it's... basically an RPG, isn't it?

But it gets by because the battle system is complex enough that it's fun on its own. Maybe like SMTV, idk I haven't played mainline SMT much.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

We don't have to go outside the universe, though. This is more like saying you love FFVII but skipped all the cutscenes. Like yeah, it's not impossible to think that, but it's just hard to understand. I don't consider the gameplay of XIV to be better than that of any other decent jRPG, it just different and asks different things of you.

well, that's true. i do consider JRPGs to be a genre where you're generally only playing because you like the story. if someone said they were skipping the story in ff7 i'd find that weird.

though i might find it less weird if it was ff7r, i haven't played it but the combat system seems more dynamic. (edit: actually no i'd still find it weird probably. i'd find it weird for any single player JRPG, yeah)

like, idk if it's a nostalgia thing or whatever, but i'm definitely less likely to play a jrpg with random turn-based encounters these days unless the battles are fun in their own way.

which i'd say the gameplay in this game is. better than turn-based menu-based battle system. with, again, my evidence being that the game is inspired by WoW and other MMOs which people play for non-story reasons

Shadow Dino posted...

Lol I always love how there's two camps regarding Zenos

1) Utter annoyance at having to deal with Zenos again

2) Utter delight at getting a rematch with Zenos

i would say this game's penchant for having characters die, often in a huge climax, and then just revive off-screen, iiiiiis kind of a weak point. i think others would agree with even me on that >_>

i guess to me its like

its like we teleported to an alternate universe right now where, uh, mega man games had super deep stories and there were 20-minute cutscenes between every level

and i told someone in that world "yeah idk i just like mega man because the level design is good and i like shooting stuff, sick OST too"

and they were like "wow, i can't imagine ever playing mega man if i didn't like the story. like the only reason i'm invested in these levels is because i care so much about mega man and dr. light from the cutscenes before i did the first level"

it is possible to like games for just gameplay! since most genres don't have story focus anyway.