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TopicDigiorno's frozen pizza jumps on the meat-free wandwagon.
bobbaaay
03/15/21 8:27:04 PM
#13
I mean - meat doesn't belong on pizza to begin with, so there's nothing wrong with this.
TopicDecide which movie I watch tonight
bobbaaay
03/15/21 8:25:36 PM
#3
Faust - but literally none of these interest me personally.
TopicWhat are your top 3 JRPGs of all time?
bobbaaay
03/13/21 6:42:28 PM
#67
Tactics Ogre
Dragon Quest 3
Dragon Warrior Monsters 2
TopicPost your waifu ITT, and I'll rate them.
bobbaaay
03/13/21 6:39:31 PM
#64

TopicReminder why Boobs > Ass
bobbaaay
03/13/21 6:37:27 PM
#28
As an ass man, you actually make valid points - even if I disagree. Asses are just more fun when it comes to sex. Hitting a small ass doggy is the saddest thing on earth.
TopicThe fetishization of local pizza needs to slow/simmer down a bit.
bobbaaay
03/13/21 6:32:44 PM
#108
I honestly think Jets is better than most local pizza shoppes. I'm more annoyed that whenever somebody brings up a conversation about x chain vs. y chain -- somebody always comes in and says that the pissa place down the road owned by an Italian grandma with saggy boobs and a babushka and her sons Giuseppe and Tony, where her little arthritic hands crush every single tomato to make their pizza sauce, is better than every chain. No fucking shit most local places are better - but that's not what we're talking about.
It's also ironic that the same people who do this are usually some West Coasters who go crazy over stuff like In n Out.
TopicAny favorite movies that are full length on Youtube?
bobbaaay
03/10/21 11:12:11 PM
#1
Nothing much is holding my interest right now.
TopicWhich of dese will you be eating tonight [1][2][3][4][5]
bobbaaay
03/10/21 11:03:14 PM
#8
I wanna eat [2] because honeydew tastes the best, but [1] has the most thicc thighs.
TopicITT: Beta male names.
bobbaaay
03/10/21 10:58:15 PM
#26
TopicCelebrities who are considered attractive by many that are not your type?
bobbaaay
03/10/21 9:50:21 PM
#15
basically all women celebrities?

My ideal woman:
5'2'', 150#, big ass and thighs, lots of tattoos, dark hair, big green eyes, chubby cheeks.

TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 9:34:46 PM
#85
Cookie Bag posted...
This topic is hilarious, can't tell if tc is serious or this is a well constructed troll topic.

My topics are all onions.
I am serious about all the films I listed, even if it didn't need to be said. I'm rustling more jimmies than a nude picnic on an anthill.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 9:32:39 PM
#83
BaphometFlux posted...
Hard disagree TC , The Thing is one of the best horror movies ever made.

I don't think there's any question that at least Dawn of the Dead, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Suspiria, Repulsion, Possession, Rosemary's Baby, Alien, Carrie, Cannibal Holocaust, Videodrome, and Audition are all better than The Thing -- making it not even a top 10 of all time.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 9:22:32 PM
#79
lemondrop7 posted...
us was awful. nothing made sense and nothings explained. one of the worst horror movies of all time which is pretty shocking because get out is one of the greatest horror movies of recent time by the same director.

Us is all one big allegory, and admittedly its literal narrative has a lot of holes and leaves a lot to be implied. So I can understand people not liking it if they're looking for a straight forward narrative or they're not interested in class dynamics/social criticism. The film is definitely very unconventional for having been a wide release.
I will say I think that Get Out is a much more popular film with most critics and general audiences because there's a big push for racial consciousness in the last decade -- so the themes of appropriation, racial fetishism, etc. are more in the forefront of our political discourse than the themes of Us.
This isn't a "you didn't get it" kind of response - I'm just saying that if that's not your thing then that's not your thing. I personally have zero interest in watching films about mafia or organized crime, or a good portion of drug movies. While films like Wolf of Wall Street or The Pursuit of Happyness have tons of acclaim I personally didn't like either, because they didn't really align with my politics or interests - even if I'd still say they're both good films.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 9:14:27 PM
#78
pikachupwnage posted...
This topic is pretty much a shitpost but US was indeed pretty good and I agree on the social commentary you mentioned.

The Thing is still a great film and I would absolutely rewatch it.

I did make this post to piss people off, although I do agree that the films I listed are better films from a critical perspective - especially stuff like Dawn of the Dead, Carrie, Possession, Repulsion, etc. I know that Blair Witch, Martyrs, I Spit on Your Grave, and a few others are probably debatable by most people - but they're all films that do have immense amounts of praise and influence in the horror community, and I don't think anything I listed is an absolute head scratcher aside from maybe The Reflecting Skin (which I think is criminally underrated).

But I do appreciate that you acknowledge that Us is a well made movie. It's definitely up there as far as intelligent horror movies go IMO, and it's definitely the best exploration of social class in horror. It does receive immense amounts of hate from people who claim Peele is racist, or people like the post immediately underneath yours. You literally can't make posts about Us, It Follows, or Midsommar in shitty mainstream horror groups without there being about three dozens responses saying "it sucks!" or "dumpsterfire!" per one positive response.
TopicAm I missing any in the SNES library of Great RPGs?
bobbaaay
03/10/21 7:51:12 PM
#4
Is this a joke post, since you clearly excluded Earthbound and Ogre Battle?
TopicMore film ops to anger CE: Princess Mononoke and Castle in the Sky
bobbaaay
03/10/21 7:16:41 PM
#5
bump
TopicPost An Obscure Console Game That Folks Should Play!
bobbaaay
03/10/21 6:49:00 PM
#41
Esrac posted...
Brigandine: Legend of Forsena.

But good luck doing that, since it was never rereleased in anything after PS1.

They remastered it on switch
Edit: nevermind it's a sequel
Topic1984 on the horizon
bobbaaay
03/10/21 6:14:08 PM
#5
1984 exists through digital vigilantism and self important self policing nowadays - not through the government
TopicWhat's the best 80's fantasy film?
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:50:28 PM
#31
ghostblob posted...
Conquest, the Lucio Fulci movie. Other picks for me would be Nausica (can't remember the full title) and Zu Warriors from the Magic Mountain.

I love Conquest so much. I approve of this post.
TopicMore film ops to anger CE: Princess Mononoke and Castle in the Sky
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:49:38 PM
#3
KILBOTz posted...
are you drunk?

title and first line: They are both better than spirited away
2nd line - They are not better than Spirited Away.

No. The second line refers to the films after the dash.
Castle in the Sky and Mononoke are better than Spirited Away. Kiki, Totoro, Fireflies, and Ponyo are not better films, but I'd rather watch them than Spirited Away.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:47:58 PM
#21
Prestoff posted...
In my opinion, it was a product of its time. Kind of like movies like American Beauty and Juno.

I can understand and agree to some extent. I remember when every single girl I talked to over AIM in High School had Requiem on her Myspace/Xanga/Livejournal/Blurty/etc. as a favorite film -- alongside stuff like American Beauty, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Virgin Suicides, Fight Club, etc.
There's a strong early '00s feel to it that seemed much cooler and more hip back then. Just like all those quirky indie-comedies back then, like Me and You and Everyone We Know and the Science of Sleep, etc.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:45:01 PM
#20
Funkydog posted...
I liked it, but been over a decade since I last saw it so who knows what I'd think now.

If you've matured then I'm sure you'd probably see more of its flaws. I know back in like '04 when I didn't know any better, I watched the film and kind of felt annoyed by the ass-to-ass scene and wasn't too fond of the film - but I thought it was competently made. Re-watching it as an adult I can assuredly say it's nothing close to competent.
Which is fine if you still like it. I like lots of stuff that's clearly incompetent. Just saying you'd probably be a little more keen to its shortcomings with age.
TopicMore film ops to anger CE: Princess Mononoke and Castle in the Sky
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:41:51 PM
#1
are both better films than Spirited Away.
Although they're not better films that Spirited Away - I'd also much, much rather watch Kiki's Delivery Service, Ponyo, My Neighbor Totoro, and Grave of the Fireflies than Spirited Away, too.
I haven't seen Nausica or Porco Rosso - but I hear those are two of Miyazaki's better films, so I can assume they'd probably be better than Spirited Away. Just saying.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:38:46 PM
#16
FortuneCookie posted...
Hmm...

I'm not sure what film I have the most hatred for. Until last year, I probably would have said Jurassic Park III. But I rewatched it August and... it was bad. It was a bad sequel and not the soul-crushing, childhood-ruining trainwreck I remembered.

I don't think I've ever watched the Jurassic Park sequels. I remember seeing the original in theaters as a kid and liking it, but not loving it. People hating the sequels seems to be a pretty common theme, though - so I'm not in any rush to watch them.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:36:29 PM
#14
Esrac posted...
Yeah. I've seen that movie once.

I didn't think of it as especially shocking or thought provoking. I just thought it was boring and unenjoyable.

I felt nothing but contempt for most of the characters.

Thank you.
It's a waste of time for a film. If you want to watch a film that's actually as shocking or uncomfortable as people claim Requiem for a Dream is -- then you'd be better off watching In a Glass Cage, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas, The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, or a dozen other, better movies.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:33:23 PM
#9
au_gold posted...
Youre full of awful takes today.

Did you even read my post? I pointed out lots of reasons why it's a totally shitty movie. My girlfriend was actually mad at me for making me waste her time by re-watching it.
EDIT: And I know you're also referring to my Thing post, since CE has the biggest hard-on for that movie. But I never said The Thing was a bad or poorly made movie -- just that there are dozens of critically acclaimed horror films that are better.
TopicThere isn't a single movie I hate more than Requiem for a Dream
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:27:57 PM
#1
Generally I judge art by what its intentions are and whether it achieved them, the attention to detail, and the feelings it evokes. Most stupid blockbuster movies were meant to be stupid blockbuster movies, and if their intention was to make something lucrative that allows you to shut off your brain -- then I would say they're good or well made. I compare art to itself.

That being said - the only film that I think misses a million marks, and yet everybody gives it endless praise is Requiem for a Dream. Aside from the mother the acting was atrocious. What the fuck was that accent Jared Leto was trying to do? The screenplay removed all of the character building and emotional gusto of the book. There were tons of unnecessary and meaningless editing and camera techniques that added nothing and were simply done to experiment and seem more highbrow; aside from the fast cuts, which worked -- lots of the techniques like the random poorly done slow-motion and fish-eye lenses were so forced. The score was sooo bad and didn't fit the film at all; it started with the overly dramatic orchestral piece before anything dramatic even happened, and then during scenes of actual drama it played weird EDM that seemed jarring.

The most atrocious thing about the film was the poorly-thought out attempt at shock. The book had blowjobs for drugs -- the ass-to-ass was purely added in as an ill-conceived attempt at shock. Rather than actually being shocking, though - it instead made itself into a meme. Nothing in a film that's meant to be a serious analysis of addiction should become a meme, and this film shouldn't get a free pass -- nobody is out there un-ironically calling Silent Night Deadly Night 2 a cinematic masterpiece because of "garbage day!?" The ass-to-ass scene is easily as laughable as "garbage day!?" or "no bra, no panties" in Thirteen. Shouldn't that detract from the seriousness of the film that barely even takes itself seriously to begin with?

Instead of acknowledging all its shortcomings people act like Aronofsky is brilliant, and this film is actually shocking or sad. Aronofsky is not brilliant - at least based off of this film alone, and the film doesn't take itself or its characters seriously enough to evoke any sort of emotional connection that could warrant it being considered shocking or sad. It's just a literal piece of shit, and it makes me not want to watch a single other film from Aronofsky.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:04:00 PM
#67
lemondrop7 posted...
By far the best horror movie film analyst on YouTube is Collative Learning.

https://youtube.com/user/robag88

his film analysis on the exorcist being a film about the sexual maturity of teens is very well researched and nuanced. Comparing the directors other work you can see the director very purposefully made a film after about a vampire killer actually just being a guy with a damaged brain once it goes to court to dismiss the supernatural.

he also has an excellent free analysis about how the original Texas chainsaw massacre is an anti meat industry protest film. Same with the shining film version by Kubrick being about sexual abuse by a father to his son.

I just cant speak highly enough about this guy. His eye for detail is incredible. His breakdown of set and time alterations during the Michael Jackson documentary that was unedited in one shot shows just how much we can be fooled by anything. Hes really gotten me to be more critical about film at large. And yes he has high high praise for the thing.

The films I listed have very high praise as well, and I do enjoy film critiques/analyses a ton.
I'm a huge fan of a lot of the videos from Style Is Substance, and that channel has multiple videos 30+ minutes long just talking about Possession.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8ItKtUb8aA
Possession is a much better film than The Thing. It has much more substance, and its acting is leagues ahead of any of the performances in The Thing.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 5:00:38 PM
#66
GameGodOfAll posted...
Actually the only movies listed I'd put above the Thing would be...the VVitch (my favorite), Halloween and Alien are probably better, but I don't like them as much. Blair Witch was more influential/important, but not nearly as good. Psycho is great, but I'd put the Thing over it, but that's kind of a toss up. But I don't get how you can watch Candyman or Black Christmas and think it's objectively better than the Thing. And stuff like I Spit on Your Grave or Cannibal Holocaust? C'mon. An argument can be made for the found footage influence, but still.

Also you list the original Suspiria. I suggest the recent remake if you haven't seen it.

Candyman had a wonderful score, a fresh story, it pioneered a few new camera techniques, it had a rich lore, it was filmed on set in the dangerous neighborhood where it was set, the acting is top-notch, and it had strong themes regarding the nature of folklore and urban mythology as well as poverty. It was an incredibly well made movie that unfairly gets judged as a dime-a-dozen mediocre slasher - because lots of horror casuals put Tony Todd on horror parody shirts with Freddy and Jason and shit, and Tony Todd showed up in tons of casual garbage like Final Destination.
Black Christmas is well made - so I don't know what you're talking about there. Cannibal Holocaust easily has the best horror score period; the work Riz Ortolani did with Deodato was top notch. Cannibal Holocaust was also shot well, its special effects were good for the time, it was shocking to general audiences, its story is engaging, it pioneered the found footage genre and framed itself in a very unique way for its time. Whenever anybody doesn't credit Cannibal Holocaust I assume either they're not actually into horror films, or they're put off by the animal cruelty and use it to delegitimize the rest of the film.
I Spit on Your Grave probably isn't on par with other rape revenge/exploitation films of the time, like Ms.45, and isn't as shocking as something like Rape Squad -- but I don't count the latter two as horror films. I Spit on Your Grave just had a mood about it that's untouched by most other cinema, and it was definitely competently shot. The acting kind of ranged from bad to great - but that aside it's a good film.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 4:34:49 PM
#60
Smashingpmkns posted...
I disagree. Blair Witch isn't even a quarter of the movie that Paranormal Activity is. The marketing was okay (only because some people for some reason actually thought it was real at the time wtf lmao) then you see the movie and all that marketing is gone to waste because it was absolute garbage imo.

Noroi shits on them both tho.

Whaaat? Noroi is so insanely mediocre! Next to The Poughkeepsie Tapes it's probably the most I've ever been disappointed by a found footage movie.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 4:26:08 PM
#55
Smashingpmkns posted...
Honestly Blair Witch fucking sucked and Paranormal Activity did everything it did but way better.

Hell noooo. Paranormal Activity is whack as hell -- and it didn't advertise itself the same as Blair Witch. The marketing behind Blair Witch is a big part of its brilliance.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/10/21 4:24:36 PM
#53
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Yeah, lets all appreciate the film tastes of the guy who says The Thing is overrated while having never seen Psycho.

Otay.

Who caaaares, and how is that significant? Do you really want to play that game? How many movies could I probably cherry-pick that you haven't seen?
TopicWhat's the best 80's fantasy film?
bobbaaay
03/10/21 4:17:40 PM
#13
ofc nerds would pick The Princess Bride.

IMO it goes:

Willow > Return to Oz > Neverending Story > Labyrinth > Dark Crystal > Princess Bride > Excalibur

Never seen Time Bandits or Legend. I would also put stuff like Conquest, Deathstalker, Krull, and Beast Master over all of the ones listed other than Willow and Return to Oz.
TopicThere are men that DON'T WIPE their asses?!?!?
bobbaaay
03/09/21 10:44:52 PM
#11
Is this just satire? I honestly don't believe this. I'd imagine if this were true I'd smell shit whenever I'm walking in public.

I also shave my entire front area and my asshole, and I've made comments in Facebook groups making fun of people who don't shave and had women verbally attack me and accuse me of ableism or some shit -- so I don't think that most zoomer men OR women are super keen on shaving, it seems. Also been seeing a lot more porn lately where women aren't shaving. So I'm not seeing this "double standard" nowadays -- even though it for sure existed with a lot of millenials and gen x.
TopicYou guys ever get those salad kits from the grocery store?
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:17:05 PM
#4

This one is what's up
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:12:59 PM
#44
ledbowman posted...
the thing is good but overpraised on this board. halloween is carpenter's literally perfect movie

I probably should've put Halloween in the list.
But yes - The Thing is massively overpraised by literally everybody, but especially people who aren't horror fans. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people say something along the lines of, "I don't like horror, but I like The Thing, Alien, and The Shining."
But even people into horror and even people with good taste seem to give it way too much credit.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:08:21 PM
#40
ImmatureContent posted...
The Thing did those. You are free to disagree. But you would just be stating an opinion.

I said it was a well made movie. Just not as well made as the other films I listed.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:07:48 PM
#39
Axiom posted...
Yes you are

I've literally said multiple times now that I'm speaking from a critical perspective. In a response to another post I gave examples of what made a few of the films on the list so impactful. I'm not going to sit here and pick apart one film for its editing, direction, and acting trying to justify its merit. Nothing I listed should be strikingly controversial aside from maybe one or two of the bunch.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:05:39 PM
#37
g0ldie posted...
I haven't seen the original Blair Witch, but you can't deny its influence.

I think Cannibal Holocaust did the found footage horror movie thing, but Blair Witch brought it to the mainstream, iirc.

I'm not even necessarily putting Blair Witch up there because of popularizing found footage. It was just marketed incredibly well -- probably better than any horror film short of maybe the fake ambulances outside of the theaters showing The Exorcist. Plus it achieved quite a bit with its low budget, crafted scenes that have been replicated and parodied for decades now, etc.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:03:39 PM
#36
ImmatureContent posted...
What does well made even mean? I would love to see an objective rating system to determine what makes something a "better" movie than other movies.

Had a level of intention behind it that it achieved. Captured a particular feeling or tone. Acted well. Scored well. Exhibited attention to detail in its editing and direction. Showed innovation.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 8:01:59 PM
#35
Shablagoo posted...
I agree.

Any recommendations?

Us (2019) does a surprisingly good job at exploring class envy, class traitorism, and the concept of there being two different Americas -- one for the haves and the have nots. Those living without just emulating those with. Narratively it has a lot of plot holes, and it received a lot of unwarranted hate for such - and it also didn't help that there's a huge backlash against Peele for his pro-black stances.

Society (1989) may be a horror comedy, and may be a totally goofy Yuzna film, with his always unique practical effects -- but it does speak to the upper class figuratively and, in the film's case, literally consuming and absorbing others with lower socio-economic standing. It also exemplifies the hedonism of those in the upper class, not unlike something like Caligula (1979) -- and makes a mockery of incest that was typical in ruling classes throughout history, whether it's meant to be literal, figurative, or both.

The People Under the Stairs (1991) is just constant references to Reaganism and class dynamics. Again, those without living underneath and being either ignored and forgotten (in the case of the children) or subservient (in the case of the tenants) to the ruling class. Peele has explicitly stated that it was a huge influence on him and his films.

Funny Games (1997) is just another example of wealth and malaise leading to people finding pleasure in observing the suffering of others. It's well known that Heineke made the film to try and make the audiences feel guilty for wanting to see on-screen violence. Although the film was maybe not meant to focus on the perceived socio-economic standing of its antagonists - it can definitely be seen as relevant even if not intentional.

I'm sure you could also find some meaning in Street Trash (1987), Battle Royale (2000), Class of 1984 (1982), etc. even if what you find may not exactly be progressive.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:46:44 PM
#24
Eat More Beef posted...
I dunno how you can place that many horror films above it. Sure, you might not deserves the top 5 status that it gets, and I'll respect it, but not putting it in the top 10 is ludacris.

The sense of isolation is astounding, the tense story telling with the show, don't tell, is great, the soundtrack is all kinds of creepy, and the effects are still some of the best to this day.

I'm not saying it doesn't achieve those things. But what about the feelings of loneliness and helplessness in The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976) -- and the perfectly creepy and perverse delivery from Martin Sheen? What about the layers upon layers of meaning and symbolism in Possession (1981)? The excellent marketing for The Blair Witch Project (1999) that was basically an ARG that predated the widespread concept of ARGs? The innovation of Cannibal Holocaust (1980), as well as the controversy it generated -- without even mentioning its absolutely fantastic score? The fear of simultaneously knowing but not wanting to know in The Vanishing (1988)? The grit and rawness of Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) or The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)? The atmosphere generated by The Reflecting Skin (1990) through its perfect score, perfect pacing, and its unflinchingly dreadful tone?

Every film I listed offers something just as profound and impactful.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:35:21 PM
#19
SevenTenths posted...
*looks at topic*
You sure seem to think so.

Tell us more about how everyone else is wrong and only you can judge if a movie is good or not.

What're you talking about? I literally said that some of the films I listed I don't like. Acknowledging that something is well made isn't the same as saying you like it, and vice versa.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:32:12 PM
#15
SevenTenths posted...
Oh sorry for thinking you learned anything. One day you'll learn about it. Until then keep crying on the internet that people like things you don't and it's everyone else who is wrong

Is it a hard concept to understand that there's a difference between personal tastes and the quality of something? I'm not talking about my personal tastes.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:30:39 PM
#14
ImmatureContent posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJX4ytfqw6k

I'm not talking about my personal opinions. If I was talking about what I liked then the list would be waaaaay longer and include stuff like Frankenhooker (1990), Street Trash (1987), Slime City (1988), The Lure (2015), Found (2012), etc.
But those films clearly aren't as well made as The Thing. The films that I listed should all definitely be considered better films from a critical perspective.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:27:45 PM
#11
SevenTenths posted...
Something doesn't need to be overrated just because you like other things.

Congratulations on finally learning what personal taste is. Maybe one day you'll learn how to like something without putting something else down.

I'm not talking about personal taste. I explicitly said I'm speaking from a critical perspective. I'm personally not a fan of Romero's Dead trilogy or Suspiria -- but they're more well made films than the Thing, and definitely belong in GOAT lists.
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:26:19 PM
#10
I'd even go far enough to say that I think Carpenter's library as a whole is overrated.

They Live (1988) is like an 8/10 film at best. It's an alright film and has some good comedic moments in it, but it's definitely not the best horror film regarding social class/class dynamics/western capitalism. The kind of people who think They Live is a profound film are the same people who had their minds blown by Zeitgeist in High School.

Halloween (1978) is a well-made film, but it doesn't hold up well at all upon tons of repeated viewings. Even so, Black Christmas (1974) is still a better film -- and there are plenty of films that are derivative of Halloween that may not be quite as well-made from a critical perspective, but are a million times more entertaining and engaging. The mythos for Michael Myers is just kind of lackluster, too.

Big Trouble in Little China (1986) is a fun movie, and I loved it as a kid. I used to put laundry-baskets on my head and pretend I was shooting thunder out of my palms. It's a good popcorn flick, but I don't think it's a masterpiece or anything by any means.

In the Mouth of Madness (1994) is okay. It's a good film for the time it came out, sure -- but it's definitely far from a classic or a fantastic film. It's fun for maybe a watch or two, and it's competently made - but not really a master class in any way.

I haven't seen Christine (1983) or the Fog (1980) - but the general caliber of King horror adaptations doesn't offer much promise. I'd also assume the two Escape films are along the same lines as Big Trouble In Little China (1986).
TopicThe Thing is such a massively overrated film
bobbaaay
03/09/21 7:15:27 PM
#1
It definitely doesn't deserve its GOAT status that people seem to give it, especially from those outside of the hobby. I just made a list of films that I think are much more deserving of its GOAT status, in chronological order. I'm also speaking strictly from a critical perspective; there are lots of films I'd include if I was speaking from personal preference. The ones I highlighted I PRESUME are better, but I personally haven't ever seen.

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920)
The Phantom of the Opera (1925)
A Page of Madness (1926)
M (1931)
Freaks (1932)
Diabolique (1955)
Jigoku (1960)
Psycho (1960)
Eyes Without a Face (1960)
Peeping Tom (1960)
Onibaba (1964)
Kwaidan (1964)
Repulsion (1965)
Rosemary's Baby (1968)
Night of the Living Dead (1968)
Blind Beast (1969)
Valerie and Her Week of Wonders (1970)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
Black Christmas (1974)
Deathdream (1974)
Carrie (1976)
The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976)
Suspiria (1977)
I Spit on Your Grave (1978)
Dawn of the Dead (1978)
Zombi 2 (1979)
Phantasm (1979)
Alien (1979)
Cannibal Holocaust (1980)
City of the Living Dead (1980)
The Beyond (1981)
Evil Dead (1981)
Possession (1981)
An American Werewolf in London (1981)
Poltergeist (1982)
Videodrome (1983)
Day of the Dead (1985)
Re-Animator (1985)
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986)
Hellraiser (1987)
Evil Dead 2 (1987)
The Vanishing (1988)
Santa Sangre (1989)
The Reflecting Skin (1990)
Candyman (1992)
Dead Alive (1992)
Cemetary Man (1994)
The Blair Witch Project (1999)
Audition (1999)
Let the Right One In (2008)
Martyrs (2008)
The VVitch (2015)
Raw (2016)
Get Out (2017)
Hereditary (2018)
Midsommar (2019)
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03/09/21 6:41:14 PM
#183
SquirtleSkwad posted...
He's saying there are no art house theaters in Las Vegas based on the movies they choose to show alongside others. They're absolutely art house theaters.

That line was insignificant in the context of what he's saying. He's saying these more unconventional films got wide releases and were regularly shown at larger theaters -- which they were. It's not exclusive to larger cities, either. I just mentioned that I know for a fact that the two cities I live between, neither of which exceed much over a million residents if at all, showed a lot of these films in mainstream theaters -- and that they were well known by people who aren't even really all that much into film.
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