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TopicAre you ready for more Avatar: TLA shows/movies?
ParanoidObsessive
02/25/21 2:00:27 PM
#11
Xfma100 posted...
Personally I don't have faith in anything Avatar-related being great besides the original show.

I don't even think the original show was great, but then again I wasn't a pre-teen or kid when it was on, so I was probably judging it by higher standards than most of the people watching it at the time.

We all tend to overestimate the quality of the shows we loved as kids. But kids from every generation love tons of things that are garbage.
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TopicBest JRPG on this list?
ParanoidObsessive
02/25/21 1:56:38 PM
#13
Voted for Suikoden, but Lunar gets an honorable mention.

Parasite Eve was an interesting concept, but loses points because the ending kind of goes off the rails and is lame.

Most of the rest either came out after the point where I stopped giving a shit about JRPGs in general, or failed to catch my interest beforehand.
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TopicOur sun is huge!
ParanoidObsessive
02/25/21 1:51:04 PM
#16
papercup posted...
And compared to some other stars it's insignificantly tiny.

I just got recommended this as a video on YouTube about an hour ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnSDifDSxQ
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TopicSpirituality
ParanoidObsessive
02/25/21 1:47:06 PM
#17
Muscles posted...
The problem with religions is the fact that an infinite being is, more or less, incomprehensible to us so you can't really know the nature of God

The other problem is that humans are such flawed, fucked up creatures that if we ever think we've ever figured out the true nature of the universe, we're almost certainly utterly wrong.

We're like ants trying to understand the concept of Disney World. Whatever the ant thinks he knows, he's not even close.

Plus, there's this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
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TopicI think that super intelligent AI is already here and actively influencing us
ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 7:46:14 PM
#10
Mead posted...
am I though

Yes.



Mead posted...
more like things are just becoming more and more interesting and connected to one another

Only because you've finally reached a point in your life where you've started paying attention to the world around you and now have enough personal experience to extrapolate from.

Only a few more years before you start ranting about how much "the kids today" suck and how doomed the world is going to be in about 20-30 years when they finally take over, just like every other generation in human history.
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TopicI think that super intelligent AI is already here and actively influencing us
ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 7:37:47 PM
#5
You're mistaking your personal existential crisis experience for an outside phenomenon.
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TopicAny time someone uses the phrase "Full Stop"...
ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 3:43:15 PM
#3
I'd just assume they're a typesetter.
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TopicKids get kicked outta Catholic School b/c of Mom's OnlyFans Photos...
ParanoidObsessive
02/23/21 3:25:17 PM
#2
Catholic schools are basically private schools that have free rein to allow or disallow any student they want for pretty much any reason. Most of them have pretty strict entry requirements (up to and including requiring parents to be active members of the local church, which can include mandatory "volunteer" work), and have morality clauses where they can expel for pretty much any reason.

Even if you disagree with the mindset, it's still very much a "Fair, next" sort of situation. If you didn't want to deal with the potential issues, you shouldn't be sending your kids to Catholic school in the first place.
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TopicCiv 6 - AI (A) demanded I go to joint war against another AI (B)
ParanoidObsessive
02/22/21 3:08:31 PM
#6
Judgmenl posted...
The best action in Civ against the AI is usually inaction.

For me my entire diplomatic strategy in Civ against AIs was always to try and connect with as many different civs as possible, and engage in tons of tech trades that would leave them all slightly better, but which would leave me significantly more advanced then when we started. At which point I'd speed-run the tech tree and occasionally offer an insignificant tech to belligerent cultures for free as a bribe to buy their friendship.

The end result being that I'd far outstrip everyone else, so eventually I'd be using tanks and rockets against their spearmen, or I'd just rush a tech victory while everyone else was still in the Dark Ages.

I rarely ever resorted to war at all, except early on if another civ settled a major city near the heart of my empire, and it was in my way. At which point I'd mostly just declare war in order to eat it. I usually left war for the other nations to sort out on their own.
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TopicImagine paying $60 for a 10 year old game...
ParanoidObsessive
02/22/21 2:59:24 PM
#47
Mead posted...
Depends on the game imo

Was going to say, some older games are almost worth $60, while plenty of modern games that are selling for $60 are barely worth $10.

Age really isn't the significant factor.
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TopicMortal Kombat!
ParanoidObsessive
02/22/21 12:43:51 AM
#52
Zeus posted...
Even excluding SF (which was good because of camp, so I'm fine with overlooking it...

SF was an absolutely terrible movie. NO ONE liked it because it was good. We liked it because it was bad, and we enjoyed pointing at it and laughing.

That's not really an indicator of quality, and definitely not what we're talking about here.



Zeus posted...
I always enjoyed the Double Dragon movie even though it was pretty bad)

If you hadn't included the "even though it was pretty bad" part, I'd have said this statement alone invalidated every opinion you've ever had about movies ever.

Though you did include it, so I'd say that just shuffles that right into the same category of "I like this because it is bad".



Zeus posted...
It really wasn't, or at least not on its own merits. And I'm trying to think of one MK fan I knew who wasn't let down by it. I didn't think it terrible at the time, but it was massively disappointing on almost every level.

Speaking as someone who was in college when it came out, I never met a single person who had anything bad to say about it. Almost everyone who went to see it in theaters either loved it, or qualified their praise as "It was the best video game movie anyone's managed to make so far" (and honestly, there haven't been all that many made since that come close either). And a LOT of those people (probably most of them) were MK fans (I may have spent more time playing MK Trilogy in college than I did going to class). I think the most negative thing I ever heard was a few people asking why the Japanese god of thunder was played by a weird French dude.

In fact, this topic may literally be the first time in my entire life when I've ever heard someone really shitting on it at all.

It was popular enough at the time to make back its budget like seven times over. And the main theme song got airplay on the radio about a dozen times an hour, every hour, for around two months or so. There was a huge rush of positivity towards the franchise at the time, and a lot of that was spurred by the film.

Granted, I didn't hang around with the sort of sexless nerds who spent their entire weekly allowance dumping quarters into MK arcade machines or competing in MK tournaments like it was the sole important thing in their entire lives, so I probably wasn't getting the opinions of the hardest of the hardcore fans of the franchise. But let's be honest, those people were never going to like it regardless of how good or bad it was on its own merits (like comic fans who hate literally every comic movie ever made because they're not identical to the comics - "They gave Peter Parker organic web-shooters? WORST. MOVIE. EVAR.").

The real sad part is that people keep asking for video game movie adaptations, and they're almost always going to be terrible, because games keep getting bigger and more complex, game narratives keep getting more elaborate and harder to duplicate or distill into a single two-hour movie, and nerd expectations keep getting higher in general. MK hit at the right sweet spot in time and adapted a game that barely had any plot (since that was before Midway and NetherRealm overwrote the backstory into mass stupidity), so it could be translated into a movie and still mostly feel like the original game. We're probably never going to get that again (though the future for game adaptations might be jumping to streaming TV, where they can get more time to stretch plots out, so maybe they'll eventually figure out the winning formula).

On the other hand, I hear some people liked Sonic and Detective Pikachu, and both made more than enough money to be considered solid successes (and already have green-lit sequels), so maybe we've all just lowered our standards now and the Uncharted movie will win an Oscar or something.
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TopicDude decides to play metal guitar for elementary school from his balcony
ParanoidObsessive
02/21/21 11:54:22 PM
#5
Mead posted...
I feel like he awakened something in them

We need to arrest that man immediately.
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TopicDo you miss anyone right now?
ParanoidObsessive
02/21/21 11:42:28 PM
#21
I used to miss lots of people, but then I recalibrated my scope.
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TopicSo the restaurant I work at added a 3.5% surcharge because of minimum wage
ParanoidObsessive
02/21/21 12:54:36 PM
#17
BlackScythe0 posted...
I consider it a lie to suggest things that aren't remotely true.

You believe that because "Lie by Inference" is a concept that exists.

Lying generally isn't just saying things that aren't true, as much as it is attempting to deceive. Even by the dictionary definition of lying, you can say 100% factual things and still be lying.

"Lying by Omission" falls into the same category, where you tell nothing but the truth, but deliberately leave out key details that completely change the impression of what you're saying, with the end result being that anyone listening to you will believe something untrue based solely on what you've told them.

And yes, it's generally a weaselly, unethical, asshole thing to do most of the time.
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TopicDaily reminder to "like" your own GameFaqs posts
ParanoidObsessive
02/21/21 12:47:46 PM
#10
Judgmenl posted...
I really like that GameFAQs hasn't adopted the "like/dislike" mechanic that sites have these days.

Keep in mind, the people running GameFAQs are about a decade behind every major trend, and as soon as they discover them they start trying to chase them in the vain hope of actually growing the userbase by attracting younger users.

I fully expect them to implement some sort of upvote/downvote system tied to Karma in the next 5 years or so, when someone finally realizes Reddit exists.
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TopicMortal Kombat!
ParanoidObsessive
02/21/21 12:45:44 PM
#42
Mead posted...
So I actually just watched the trailer and all I can say is HOLY FUCKING SHIT

it looks FUCKING INCREDIBLE

HYPE WARNING: It's extremely easy to make a movie look awesome if you edit the trailer properly. Plenty of shit movies looked great from just the trailer. Phantom Menace looked fantastic when the trailer first came out.

And then the movie happened.

Not saying this movie is definitely going to be bad, but you might want to temper your excitement. Not only will it help protect you from being disappointed, but going in with lower expectations will make the movie seem better anyway.
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 7:30:08 PM
#61
The_Pup posted...
Except that entire story is bullshit.

He had a medical procedure done.

Yes, and the allergy shots were the medical procedure.



The_Pup posted...
That's the extent of the information given on his death.

Officially, yes, but there was plenty of info around the time based on various people's Tweets and general discussions.

No, no one at Rooster Teeth ever came out and said "Yes, this is exactly what happened" on the podcast or anything, but both the fact that Monty was extremely allergic and was getting shots because Sheena wanted the cat was well-known (and Burnie openly admitted that they removed Joe the Cat from the RT offices specifically because it was a huge problem for Monty). As is the medical info about what sort of thing happens when you're extremely allergic to something and getting allergy shots while still living with the source of your allergies.

Most other rumors were just asinine BS of the sort the Internet loves to pull out of thin air, but most of the actual evidence pretty clearly pointed in a single direction. It was even more telling when certain Tweets and posts got deleted after the fact when he died, as if trying to hide the trail even more.



The_Pup posted...
Also nothing saying he wasn't opposed to getting a cat despite having allergies. He was tweeting the opposite.

This is the one I'll grant you, because it's the part based more on supposition than evidence. The interpretation that she pushed him is mostly based on her own behavior before and after, and the fact that she kind of comes across like an absolute piece of shit human being in general. And because she literally Tweeted about being the one who found him in the first place and wanted to keep him (and wasn't seemingly overly concerned about the fact that she was getting cat hair on Monty's stuff in most of her posts about the cat).

But it's true that Monty was never specifically complaining about getting a cat, and even supposedly told Burnie that they didn't have to take Joe the Cat out of the office because Monty liked him (even if Joe was really, really bad for him, and was visibly causing him problems). Though the only thing that really changes is that it means his significant other wasn't necessarily a callous sociopath who caused his death via not giving a shit, as much as it would mean he was a phenomenal idiot who essentially committed suicide by stupid.

Either way, not a case of RT going out of their way to "prank" someone in an incredibly deadly way and then pulling off a miraculous conspiracy to silence all evidence of it after (which is still somehow discovered by the same sort of Internet detectives who've unraveled the fact that 9/11 was an inside job or that the moon landing was faked).
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 7:12:41 PM
#60
Entity13 posted...
Monty's death definitely contributed heavily because the writers couldn't stick to his original vision for certain points. Like, allegedly Jaune was supposed to witness Pyrrha's death, not Ruby, and that would have made more sense or been more impactful.

Not really. There was literally nothing preventing them from sticking to "his" original vision.

The real problem is people have absolutely deified him to the point of ridiculousness. RWBY was never solely his vision or magnum opus in the first place. Monty was great at visual design, but not so great at actual story - which is why he himself brought Kerry and Miles in right from the beginning to help him write the plot. His entire motivation for the show at first was wanting to design cool anime characters he could choreograph epic fight scenes for (in the vein of his Haloid and Dead Fantasy videos), and a lot of the actual characterization and narrative exists solely to justify the fight scenes. And a LOT of that was coming from Kerry and Miles even before Monty died.

He himself admitted this when he was alive - stories like "I don't know why that was there, I just thought it looked cool" or how he based the entire world map of the show on a ketchup blot he made in a napkin on a whim kind of show just how half-assed a lot of his idea of the story was. And the three of them would mostly just go out, have a meal, and discuss story ideas over food to thresh out ideas. Monty was definitely the one who had final say on what became part of the story and what didn't, but it was never his singular, solo vision, crystallized from absolute start to finish, with him merely dictating his narrative to other people to go write down.

It's the main reason why Kerry and Miles could keep steering the show after Monty died - because they'd already had those long, in-depth discussions about the entire story with him (including the full, intended, 10-year arc they'd discussed that would support the whole story from start to finish), and because a lot of the ideas and narrative structure were theirs in the first place. The show is less one genius auteur's grand master work that was tragically interrupted and left to be finished by amateurs, it's a collaborative effort that lost one of its three main voices early on but still had the other two.

Every time someone dislikes a story choice they've made since he died, they immediately whip out "Oh, that's not what Monty would have done!" with absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Monty would have done literally anything different. People who complain that the fight scenes are less dynamic or interesting now may have a point - that's where Monty's influence was felt the most. People who complain about where the narrative is going and assume Monty would have written it all differently are really just fooling themselves (or engaging in an incredibly naive amount of wishful thinking).

A lot of the "Ohh, they're not following Monty's vision!" narrative mostly stems from Shane Newville's deranged ranting shortly after he died about how RT wasn't following Monty's plans for the show, but Shane also comes across like a delusional lunatic with a deliberate axe to grind, who's level of veracity was about on par with when a homeless person in New York comes up to you and tells you the CIA is beaming signals into their brain. Almost NO ONE ever collaborated any facet of his story, even people who were also friends with Monty and who would have had more of a vested interest in telling the truth than in being part of a grand mysterious conspiracy by RT to silence everyone and then change the entire narrative structure of RWBY just for shits and giggles.

There are plenty of legit reasons to dislike Rooster Teeth creative decisons or corporate culture. We should probably stick with those rather than buying into one man's delusional hate-rambling because he's pissed at getting fired.



Entity13 posted...
It's like comparing Moffat to the Third or Fourth Doctor's eras when many fans would have been happier with early Fourth versus late Fourth. Ya know?

Not really a good analogy, because the difference there is that the showrunners (or producers, as they were called back then) and script editors were entirely different people with no connection to him at all, separated by 40 years worth of cultural differences and outlook.

Whereas with RWBY, you're literally talking about a show taken over by people who had worked in tandem with Monty for years. Even if you assume Monty was a god-like genius who dictated everything from on-high and Kerry and Miles were nothing but glorified secretaries jotting down every magnificent utterance or startling revelation from their Messiah (which is bullshit, but you get the idea), they'd still been working with him on the show longer than anyone else, knew exactly what most of his ideas and plans were, and had a better chance of continuing it the way he would have wanted more than anyone else on Earth.

If anything, it would be more akin to comparing two seasons of a show that had three main creators/writers/producers, with one leaving but the other two staying (I'm having a hard time thinking of one - most shows either have larger teams, or start out with a duo and not a trio).

No, RWBY without Monty probably isn't exactly the same thing that RWBY with Monty right to the very end would have been in a parallel alternate universe where he survived. But it also isn't as radically different as a lot of people would like to believe. Most of what we've gotten is probably more or less exactly what we would have gotten if Monty was still in charge, just with a potentially more interesting visual presentation.

If anything, the main change was probably the fact that Monty was a bit of a chaotic disorganized solo creator who never really adapted to working as part of a large animation team all that well, which meant running right up against a lot of deadlines (and having the people above you in the company whose job it is to be responsible and worry about time/money decisions having to pressure him a bit). After he died, the process almost certainly tightened up a bit and became much more efficient and less time-intensive. For all the continuing complaints about RT animation teams having to deal with major crunch, the worst stories ever were when Monty would put stuff off until the last minute, then stay at work all night every night for days working on projects (to the point where he'd fall asleep in his chair), which is something multiple people mentioned at the time. That's something you can get away with when you're working on a personal project for yourself with no real budget, no timeline, no timetable, and no one else suffering because of you failing to meet your obligations, but it becomes absolute hell when other people literally cannot work or are forced to crunch hard because they need you to finish before they can start.

Like it or not, people can complain about corporate culture or whine about how it stifles creativity and artistic expression, but if you're going to work for a company to benefit from the economic and manpower advantages you also have to be a professional and work within a system.
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 7:12:17 PM
#59
Smarkil posted...
Jeremy was a fine addition but I find Matt to be very boring.

Matt's more of a support role, who occasionally has great moments. He's very much like a younger Jack in that respect. He tends to fade into the background the more louder and dynamic people are in the group with him. Trevor can be the same way.

Jeremy's just a more forceful personality and tends to fill the Ray niche pretty well. Just more enthusiastic than Ray was 80% of the time, especially after he completely burned out on RT and mostly just wanted to leave to go solo stream on Twitch.

It's also worth noting that I'm an older, quieter gamer in general, and I relate way more to someone like Jack than I do someone like Michael or Gavin, so I might enjoy the quieter ones more than the average viewer, who mostly just want them to be loud and hyperactive (which seems to be the default personality for most YouTubers).
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TopicMortal Kombat!
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 6:14:56 PM
#39
Runner_style posted...
That's only when Paul Wankstain Anderson is involved.

The only one he was involved with was generally considered for years to be one of the very few video game movies ever made that was actually worthwhile. Take a look at this list, and try and see how many films you can find that were actually better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_based_on_video_games

You may not like the original movie NOW, but it was extremely popular at the time. The only other video game movie I ever heard get mostly positive reviews back then was the first Resident Evil (ironically, also a Paul W. S. Anderson film).

Sure, the second MK movie was ass, but he didn't have anything to do with that one.
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TopicYou can only choose one: Netflix, HBO Max or Disney+
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 5:58:03 PM
#29
Judgmenl posted...
I don't understand the appeal to streaming services.

I basically skipped right over them, and went from watching normal TV directly to watching almost everything I watch online (mostly on YouTube).

I don't have a single streaming service right now, and no real desire to get one any time soon. Major shows shifting to streaming doesn't really make me want streaming more, it makes me want those shows less.
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 1:18:12 AM
#53
Smarkil posted...
But their Lets Play channel went to shit after the 'core' crew fell off so I haven't watched anything from them for a couple of years now. Shit I think only two of them are left from the OG crew - Jack and Michael. The rest are either gone, cancelled, or seem to be mostly working on other shit.

Gavin's still there, though it depends on what video you're watching. Geoff shows up maybe once or twice a year, though he has his own podcast with Gavin (called F**kface).

Jeremy, Matt, and Trevor were basically the first batch of replacement faces, and they're all still there. And they're all pretty funny/entertaining in their own way. Lindsay's also still around, though she can be more of an acquired taste for some people.

Fiona's the only new face that really jars with the old dynamic and can be a huge negative for old fans (though Ify might fall into that category as well if they eventually hire him officially - he's mostly just been hanging out as a "friend of the channel" for a while). Because she kind of feels more like the typical solo Twitch streamer who just happens to be collab-ing as part of a group rather than someone who is more integrated into the same style of YouTube-style video making as the old guard. But that's basically her entire purpose - she's there to appeal to the new generation of kids and hopefully draw more eyes to the product, because most of the older cast are now in their 30s and the audience is aging up (and/or drifting away).
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/20/21 1:09:43 AM
#51
LeetCheet posted...
That was Machinima though? Or are you talking about Funhaus?

Funhaus eventually restarted Inside Gaming as an RT channel a few years back, then passed it off to new people, and then it eventually died because no one gave a fuck about the new people and only ever really tuned it to see the old Machinima/Funhaus crew.



Entity13 posted...
You know, I think the last thing of theirs I bothered to watch was the first season of Nomad of Nowhere. I mostly only finished the first season to see how it ended, rather than actually liking it. That, the plummet in RWBY's quality, and the time travel season of RvB were what made me decide I had had enough of Rooster Teeth's programming.

Nomad was terrible. I tuned out after the first episode.

I dropped RvB at the same time. The problem is that the time travel season was the point where they passed writing duty off to a third-string team (the original writers having mostly stopped after the Freelancer storyline, and the second-string team mostly shifting over to RWBY or leaving the company entirely), which dramatically weakened the storytelling.

RWBY has definitely been going downhill for a while (though I think the people who act like that's entirely because Monty died and no one other than him can write the show well are being incredibly naive), but for me the real deal-killer was shifting it to the RT website and not YouTube - if it's not on YouTube I'm not really interested enough to watch it. Same reason I didn't really give a shit about gen:Lock or any of the other FIRST shows they hide behind the paywall.

I've mostly stopped watching anything by RT Core or the animation department. I still watch some AH stuff (there was a point when almost everything I watched from RT was either AH or Funhaus), but I've definitely noticed that I watch less and less as time passes (and with Funhaus mostly losing all the original members and replacing them with younger people, I've mostly stopped watching that entirely as well).

It doesn't help that I really don't like streaming content, and they've been shifting towards that as their filming model because it's cheaper/easier for them. The pandemic made that way worse (because they're all stuck at home), but it started even before then. It means a lot of their new stuff just feels more bleh now.

Ironically, in the last year or so, I've started watching a ton of old Yogscast stuff. It's got the same vibe as AH (and they play some of the same games like TTT and Minecraft), and AH helped influence a fair bit of Yog stuff (Hat Films were all AH fans, for one thing), but I never really watched most of it before, so it's years and years worth of "new" content to me. I don't really feel like I'm missing RT/AH all that much, because I've basically just replaced it with "AH with (more) British accents".
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TopicMy name's Taako
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 9:42:40 PM
#2
Abracafuckyou.
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TopicWhat is the worst game to receive a perfect score from IGN?
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 4:50:13 PM
#8
BADoglick posted...
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Please show us on the doll where Kratos touched you.
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TopicIf there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 4:35:13 PM
#5
Mead posted...
If there is fossilized microbial life on Mars, we will probably find it soon

Debatable. Unless it's particularly complex life (which seems unlikely), it might wind up being a needle-in-a-haystack sort of scenario.

If the only thing there to be found is evidence of monocellular bacteria or relatively simple life, it might not easy to find via a rover that's only going to take a limited number of samples in a limited area. There could be tons of evidence all over the planet that we'd simply fail to find, or maybe only a small amount of surviving evidence that would be difficult for anyone to find. They've maximized their chances of finding it by choosing a promising site, but that doesn't really guarantee anything at all.



Mead posted...
but at the same time I feel like a lot of people wont appreciate the gravity of the discover if it is found

We never really reacted all that interested when it was demonstrated that organic compounds exist in comets and might actually be the source of life on Earth in the first place (comet impacts depositing the organic compounds, which in turn led to the formation of life), and that's arguably more significant - because it suggests that pretty much any planet that experiences comet/metorite impacts (ie, most of them) could conceivably have the building blocks for life present right from the very start.

That does take us back to the Drake Equation, though (as most things do), where we have to question what the actual probability is that organic matter can eventually transmute into monocellular life (and not just the asspull numbers Drake plugged in to make the math work). It doesn't really matter if a million planets have organic matter if the odds of anything ever taking the next step are closer to one in a trillion (part of why the "size of the universe" arguments are mostly negated by "infinitesimal probability" arguments).

Before the number of planets capable of supporting (or creating) life can actually matter, we need to know how likely the origin of life is. And then, after that, what the odds are of it ever evolving past the most simplistic of forms.



LinkPizza posted...
This video makes me think otherwise... A little...

That's pretty much the reason why I do hope we eventually find it. I for one will welcome our homicidal reaping overlords.

Though I have to point out that that video's art style/narration absolutely reminds me of the old Hitchhiker's Guide entries. To the point where I wonder if it was a deliberate stylistic choice on their part when they started the channel.
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TopicMortal Kombat!
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 4:14:58 PM
#6
GunslingerGunsl posted...
I guess no one cares about Mortal Kombat. T-T

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juaunbIGCcw
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TopicWhat is the worst game to receive a perfect score from IGN?
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 4:09:59 PM
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GrabASnickers posted...
Inside and Undertale with perfect scores seems pretty haughty. Granted I can't really think of many flaws with them per se but they're just low depth games that hinge on "artistry"

Arguably, the same applies to TLoU. Though depending on your point of view, that might not include the "not many flaws" part of your statement.
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 4:05:34 PM
#21
Gr8M8 posted...
I know RT fans were furious about the company being featured on the Rotten Websites Wiki

On the other hand, a lot of RT fans were really quick to turn on the company when it got a ton of terrible employee reviews on Glassdoor, when stories came out about a somewhat harsh work environment in the animation department. They were also pretty quick to turn when someone connected to the company tried to kill his wife, when there were huge corporate layoffs that left about a hundred people unemployed with no prior warning, and when one of the AH cast turned out to apparently be a borderline sexual predator.

Not to mention the fans that have been complaining that RvB and RWBY have been getting worse with every passing year and haven't been worth watching for years, or the more radicalized portion of the fanbase that usually spends most of their time on Reddit complaining that RT isn't woke enough.

RT fans pretty much hate on RT on a regular basis. Their reaction to the Rotten Websites thing was less about RT and more about objecting to the site's politics. The community as a whole has sort of become a toxic cluster-fuck.
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TopicAre you a fan of Rooster Teeth?
ParanoidObsessive
02/18/21 3:21:26 PM
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Entity13 posted...
I was until a year or so after Monty died. Part of me suspects said death was a prank gone wrong

Nah, the causes behind that are pretty well known (though most people in the RT community itself try to avoid talking about it). His psychotic cosplayer girlfriend (who may or may not have been his wife - it's kind of complicated) decided she wanted a cat, in spite of the fact that Monty was hugely allergic to cats (like epi-pen levels of allergic). So she basically pressured him into getting allergy shots that would theoretically help him develop a tolerance, but while doing so also kept a cat in their shared living space (which is pretty much a massive no-no when you're getting allergy shots, because it means you're getting a double dose of the allergens, which can cause an even more severe reaction). Then he had a massive allergic reaction, which killed him.

So she pretty much murdered him, has shown no real remorse since, and hasn't really hesitated to exploit his memory for attention/money online. RT itself mostly kind of stayed quiet about the whole thing and didn't really want to talk about the details out of respect for Monty's private life, but that same respectful silence is what opens the door to weird conspiracy theory assumptions about what actually happened (and they're doubly likely to not want to talk about it now due to having mostly been absorbed into a much larger corporation that prioritizes PR concerns over community openness anyway).

One assumes that if RT itself (or someone in their employ) had actually done something directly to cause his death, his own brother wouldn't have been so quick to step up and take over his voice role in RWBY. Instead we'd probably be seeing a lot of wrongful death lawsuits springing up from his (large) family or Sheena herself. It's telling that most of the people who were closest to him as a person in the company never felt the need to ever call anyone out on it or criticize company practices, but almost all of them have cut Sheena out of their lives and the community entirely after the fact.
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