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I got suspended on twitter , probably permanent. I had no idea how strict their policy is on suspensions either, theyre ignoring my appeals and i will probably have to buy a tablet just to twitter again. Fuckin sucks, i feel ya tc.

Conor McGregor, first ever champ in two weight classes * at the same time. Changed the sport of mma forever. Then lured Floyd Mayweather out of retirement with nothing but shit talk, made 100 million for 30 minutes of shitty boxing.

Shes great.

What the fuck could possibly happen? When theyre in their early 20s people bone like 4+ times a day all the time.

Lets talk about how epic it was. Used to play it at the roller skating rink.

Nah i said in states where corona increased after a protest, i blame the protest. You misquoted me so i pointed that out.

Do you have any clips of police shooting people with rubber bullets in their homes? What does reporters getting blasted have to do with it, I said people at home didnt get shot. Should have said barely any. You muck around in a riot zone you could get gassed or hit, does that surprise anyone?

Shitloads of people are saying acab lately. You say youre using my words, but you directly asked me a question and i asked what beliefs youre talking about. You arent throwing anything in my face, you didnt give a response so theres nothing for me to deny. Are you sober? It actually would take mental effort to pretend to not understand me as hard as you are. Its funny

I liked the Keebler pizza chips, been sad every day since they stopped making them. Got a bag of spicy nacho doritos next to me right now, barely any flavor. Who should i write a letter to, im about to explode.

Eh i have been using handwaving wrong. Go figure. I dunno where i picked that up. You were excusing and somewhat justifying it then.

Im not misunderstanding, you claimed i said every state where there were protests had an increase in corona, thats false. You insult my reading comprehension again and say that shit, funny. Post #65

I already explained the protests and the woman on a her porch is an isolated example, big fuckin deal. They told her to go inside, it was a community lockdown. Do i approve of that, no.

Acab is not that extreme lately. What extreme conservatism would you be referring to, my beliefs are pretty diverse.

Yea Cable, you did handwave the protests and the riots. Its that great big BUT you toss in. Riots are bad BUT, Protests are dangerous BUT etc.

I didnt say protests caused a spike in every state, i said i blame protests for the increase in corona every state that occured since you blame the rally for that in Oklahoma. Youre wrong again. And protests did result in millions in damage and theft, the riots occured because of the protests, they go hand in hand. Rioters used the cause to benefit themselves. Thats it. Not every protestor is a rioter but every rioter was a protestor directly or in spirit. Know who didnt get beat? People who were at home.

Your side is full of acab and thats what i was referring to. Everything in my posts isnt an accusation directed at you, its a train of thought as im expressing what i think about the entire situation. Its clear in the way ive posted it, for someone who keeps telling me i dont read well you are sure struggling with that.

CableZL posted...

Not every state had an increase in the 2 weeks following the start of the protests, though.

And yes, the property destruction and violence in the riots was incredibly unfortunate. However, they are the result of anger that has been bubbling up in the country for decades at the very least. The George Floyd incident was just the match that ignited all this.

Multiple onlookers peacefully begged the Minneapolis police officers to get off of George Floyd's neck so that he could breathe. They recognized the fact that he was about to die. The police officers refused to listen, though. Riots are an unfortunate consequence of desperate peaceful pleas being deliberately ignored.

Riots are a bad idea, but let's not pretend people didn't try the peaceful way first. Let's also not pretend the rioters and protesters are the same people.

What a bunch of bullshit drivel. Its just "whoops i got called out on this dumb shit i said, lets move on to the next" with you. Like one unforgivable tragedy justifies millions in damages and endangering the public in the middle of a pandemic. Especially after the same people spent weeks saying the exact opposite and everyone needed to shutdown and stay inside. Theres no defense you can make or appeal to emotion that changes that.

'Goddam im so fuckin mad about George Floyd im gonna rob the Gucci store and break out my neighbors windows'. Then whine about police brutality when they get their asses kicked for breaking the law and burning cities. Not every protestor is a rioter, well not every cop is a homicidal maniac. That claim is coming from some of your people, i know the difference.

I love this crossover of popular culture and nerdity. Like all the UFC fighters on twitch these days. Nerds that will knock your ass out, i approve.

AOC plays league of leggings....

Hot.

CableZL posted...

Yeah, circulated air and indoor environments are known to spread respiratory viruses more than outdoor environments. Especially when you're comparing an indoor environment with thousands of people sitting shoulder to shoulder and refusing to wear masks and an outdoor environment where most people are wearing masks.

Any picture or video of the protests shows that the vast majority of people participating are wearing masks. Sure, a lot of people aren't, but again, that's still better than thousands of people sitting next to each other for hours and refusing to wear masks.

That does not imply that either activity is "safe." The one where most people are at least wearing masks is better, though. This shouldn't be that hard to understand.

Not gonna acknowledge the sneaky way you tried to frame my post as if I were stupid and just referring to you. Thats typical, and sleazy.

No the protests werent better, and it was many more people spread across multiple states. You wanna blame a rally for the uptick in corona in Oklahoma, then i blame the protests in every state they occured that had an increase. It doesnt take a big brain to see which one was worse and way more dangerous. And the rally didnt result in multiple millions of dollars in property destruction or theft eitger. Not to mention violence, duh.

CableZL posted...

Because it was too late. People from China had already come here with the virus by the time he "banned" travel from China. Chinese residents were still coming here after the "ban" was put in place.

Again, I never said protests weren't responsible for the spread. Protests absolutely contributed to spreading the virus.

Uhh, because it did. Oklahoma saw an increase in infections in the weeks following the Trump rally.

Not sure how many times this needs to be repeated, and maybe you're having trouble reading because you're so emotional... But I never said protesting was in any way "safe" in this regard. I've said repeatedly during the course of the protests that they're absolutely going to contribute to spreading the virus.

Not sure why you're going on this tangent. You should try actually reading.

I am reading, youre acting like im only referring to you in the way youre selectively quoting my post. When im obviously referring to outcry from Trump opposers and the media and exposing their hypocrisy. You said yourself the protests werent as bad as the rally because protestors were mostly wearing masks (sure) and it was 'outside'. When its comparing 6000 or so to hundreds of thousands. As if everyone showed up individually and went home that way, not packed in cars or on the subway or in buildings during, before, and after. Youre also just clarifying your position on the protests as you go, there was nothing to read because you didnt mention it till two posts ago.

SSJGrimReaper posted...

So much going on there.

CableZL posted...

I find it funny that you consider discussing Trump's well-documented history of racism and idiocy "crying about anything Trump does."

I think Trump has done a few good things during his presidency, but the bad far outweighs those things, so it's obviously going to dominate conversation of the subject.

I also never claimed protests weren't responsible for contributing to the spread of the virus. However, there is a difference between outdoor protests where most people are wearing masks and an indoor rally with thousands of people refusing to wear masks or follow any sort of social distancing guidelines.

You would also think the leader of a nation dealing with a pandemic wouldn't encourage people to ignore social distancing guidelines, let alone have rallies where they actively remove any signs giving guidance about social distancing.

But nope. Trump is a narcissistic moron, so he's going to do just that.

For the third time, i said the early call for a ban was about the only thing the fucker was right about corona. You claimed it was too late, well i actually remember when it happened and most of the regs on this board and the media were bitching about it. If the left had agreed with Trump and they passed a conprehensive temp ban, who knows what would have happened. Instead it was just political maneuvers and shit that fucked up the process and Trump absolutely doesnt deserve all the blame for that. Everything since then has been a fucking nightmare and im not defending it.

And its insanely hypocritical and two faced how the people screaming about killing grandpa and shutting down the country didnt say shit and actually encouraged the protests and even the rioters who flooded the streets by the thousands and burned shit to the ground. Then came right back and blasted Trumps small rally like THAT was gonna be the cause of a corona explosion. It was so shameless it was gross to watch. You dont know how many protestors were wearing a damn mask, even if a majority was there were still thousands who werent. So its not safe to wear masks and get back to work but its cool to wear masks and tear down statues. Made it so obvious where peoples priorities were with the selective outrage. If we gather its ok, if you gather its fucked up. Corny

CableZL posted...

I said "October and November," but was incorrect in that regard because the first identified case was indeed in November. Still, waiting to "ban" travel from China until after it had already spread to other countries and still allowing Chinese residents to travel here after the ban was put in place is just idiotic.

You seem to be the one getting emotional here. It would have gone a lot smoother if Trump didn't ignore advice from health experts on how to handle the pandemic. It would have gone a lot smoother if Trump didn't repeatedly downplay the severity of the pandemic.

Trump as recently as the past couple weeks said he still thinks the virus is magically going to go away. Trump is actively contributing to spreading the virus by having in-person rallies.

Plain and simple, he's a moron who is in over his head.

Yea and some of your claims about the ban were still false, which is all i said all along. Because you are gonna cry about anything Trump does and thats the way it is. Just get your facts straight next time. And you would blame Trumps 6000 person rally over the hundreds of thousands of protestors crammed together all across the US for weeks. No middle ground with a zealot.

Turbam posted...

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Lol

CableZL posted...

You said no one knew how bad this would get when that's blatantly false. A lot of people were raising the alarm and trying to get him to listen early on, but he refused. I'm not getting emotional. I'm talking about what has actually happened.

It's not about what I think. I'm talking about Trump's well-documented history of racism. You can try to hand-wave Trump's actual history of racism for your own comfort if you want, but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

I just checked and Chinas first corona case wasnt identified until late November. You said Trump should have acted in October, so i guess he has to be omniscient for you to not bitch. Boom, youre wrong. He also declared a public health emergency almost immediately. Like i said, it would have gone a lot smoother if Democrats had shut the fuck up. And its all screwed anyways. Just annoying guys like you that try nail Trump for shit that isnt even true because youre ignorant. The reality is bad enough, stick to that.

CableZL posted...

Uhh, a lot of people had an idea of how bad it could get. Obama left a whole playbook on how to handle a pandemic as well as aglobal pandemic response team, but Trump got rid of them and completely ignored the playbook he was left with. He also ignored all advice from the CDC, WHO, and health experts on how to handle the pandemic.

Yea if you notice im not defending his handling on this. Im taking exception to your claims he should have acted sooner on a ban if he was gonna do so, because he called for it before basically any other country. Again i reiterate, it was about the only thing he was right about. And he caught a wave of shit that was grand standing, because now Biden himself is dissing Trump for not acting sooner. When his sorry ass was calling Trump xenophobic in the first place. I dont care if you hate Trump, some of your claims are just false because DJT makes you emotional.

CableZL posted...

If Trump cared about being called racist, he probably wouldn't be trying to defend the confederacy as hard as he is. He has also kept Stephen Miller on his administration the whole time, so yeah, I doubt he cares. Not to mention his well documented history of racism.

If people wanna fly the rebel flag, i dont give a shit. We get it, you think Trump is racist, dont you get bored saying it over and over? Everyone that agrees with you already does, and people that dont wont care. Its like you cant even help yourself, just make your goddam point.

Antifar posted...

Sweden's government took a lassiez Faire approach, but the people there still refrained from going out. It was far from a free for all.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/how-sweden-fought-coronavirus-and-what-went-wrong.html

That doesnt answer my question. Some people isolated, some didnt. Well thats the same here in the US. If anything we partially locked down and they didn't, but their outbreak is nothing like ours. It just didnt spread there like it did here. Or Italy as another example. They were totally bombarded to the point it shouldnt have stopped. And its stupid to think everyone in Italy is wearing a mask. So whats with the discrepancy, why is it so much more contagious here?

CableZL posted...

It was too late. The virus had already spread to other countries that we still allowed travel from. The time to ban travel from China was in October and November when they were having their initial outbreak. Banning travel in February after it had already spread to Europe and still allowing travel from Europe was dumb AF. Way too late.

He finally banned travel at about the same time everyone else did. Saying he should have done it in October when people had no idea how bad this would get is unfair. It didn't even blow up in China until around December.

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He didnt ban Chinese people, i already said that. I can politifact that if you want. Anyways I agree with the rest and yes he does care about being called racist. Its like the biggest smear in politics. Sure he takes unpopular positions to cater to his base, there isnt any position hes taken that is just blatant racism. Illegal immigration, terrorist countries and China bans both had some actual motive. Anything a right winger does that affects a person of color somewhat negatively will be called racist, its cheap and its easy and it works.

LethalAffinity posted...

Great boobs. Sometimes having a butterface makes her body even hotter

I agree, id take an average face with flaws and a banging body over a dime any day. Dimes are so much more maintenance. But ftr shes hardly a butterface, shes really cute imo.

I dont get why it exploded here so badly but places like Sweden that were originally very laid back in tgeir enforcement didnt have anything like this. Compared to neighboring European countries they had more, but its a drop in the bucket compared to what we are now experiencing. I dont see why that is. And the answer isnt, everyone else is wearing masks.

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shockthemonkey posted...

I love Trumper arguing that he didnt do something because Democrats called him racist. When has that ever stopped him?

Its a fact he received massive backlash and called for the ban in later Jan early February. Even Chinese officials called it racist. Month or two later everyone did it to everyone else anyways. It was pretty blatant political scumbaggery and about the only thing Trump was right about as pertains to corona.

Those are some nightmare creatures. Luckily they mostly mind their own damn business.

Theres a quote that oppressed people wabt to rise up and be the oppressor.

In reality it seems like the original struggle is for equality, then it morphs into special treatment.

CableZL posted...

Trump's "travel ban" on China was too late, short-sighted, and poorly implemented.

He did it at a time where the virus had already spread to other countries we still allowed travel from. Lots of Chinese residents were still allowed to travel to the US after the ban was implemented. And the people who came from China weren't all quarantined.

It wasnt too late, he was early on it and met massive resistance from the opposition that fucked everything up. Like i said. It was poorly implemented. We probably should have totally locked down all incoming travel because now were fucked.

Jeez. Because heterosexuals are all just INCREDIBLE at raising children. No broken families to see here. God forbid some fuckin gay people adopt abandoned children, from those incredible heterosexual couplings. Disgusting.

Im conservative on some things, i dont get the hangup on gay people in this day and age. People that wanna quote the Bible deserve a double pimpslap in the face, this isnt a theocracy. Anywhere there is love between two people, God approves of that. I dont even believe Trump personally cares, i think hes pandering to his christian bloc.

Divorce rate is high as fuck, kids are already being torn between mother and father. Heterosexual marriage isnt sacred and neither is heterosexual child rearing. Now the lgbt awareness indoctrination for young children, i do not support. That should wait until they are way older. If their gay parents want to bring it up, thats their business. Not federal mandates in schools etc.

Karate hottie got a bangin body.

Waterson.

averagejoel posted...

from an objective pragmatic standpoint, destroying buildings is a demonstrably effective protest tactic

You just like chaos imo. Like if all your ideas were implemented perfectly, youd get bored and bitch about something else.

I hit it first.

i dunno if the country needs four more years of this fucking shit. Now the administration is undermining Dr. Fauci. What the fuck

LightningAce11 posted...

I've seen people say that the police needs to be defunded because their duties shouldn't encompass as many things as they do.

They mention things like marijuana, sex work etc becoming legalised and federalised so police have less non violent things to go after.

I couldnt agree with that more. Its insane people are being jailed or sent back to prison on probation for minor drug offenses. If Trump got on top of that, damn he would look strong. His base is gonna vote red no matter what anyways.

Just imagine dressing up a woman cop, making her pose as a prostitute, then arresting some poor old bastard whos trying to fuck after an average day of work. For one its demeaning for the female officer. And two its disgusting to entrap citizens for wanting sex when they cant get it the normal way or whatever. Like we should really all just be blessed with great looks and a big dick so women will deign to have sex with us? For example i just got out of a ltr. I dont want to date anyone now, i want to fuck a prostitute like 2 times a week or whatever i feel like and get on with my life. Not complicated. US gonna rub sex in societies face constantly then be like "Nope! You cant have it unless you go the traditional, accepted methods." Kiss my ass. I could destroy anyone on this planet in a debate on this, myself on the pro prostitution side.

** im fine with everything Funky said .

That dog looks so sad. Poor little woofer. Looks like a great pyrenees, anatolian shepard we used to have. Man that dog was badass. He was an alpha dog.

Where we live horses and cows walk aroubd the roads sometimes. And thia horse was just standing in the middle of the road, couldnt get by. My dad pulled up to the horse and Leo stuck his head out the window and barked right in the horses face. It took off. My dad was so impressed.

An account suicide? That used to be a status symbol on the star ocean 2 social board, and really common. There was thos dude Red777 and everytime he would flame to get banned and come back with an extra 7. Till he was like Red7777777

LightningAce11 posted...

People always say to talk with and educate bigoted people to make them grow and get rid of their beliefs. Is that so wrong?

Look at daryl davis and how he converted people away from the kkk.

Good answer. I like Daryl Davis. Racism however is universally wrong, and hardly comparable to the debate over defunding police. No one knows what the right answer to that problem is yet.

As always it will be somewhere in the middle. In my state, theres a small town that has a swat team and an apc. Thats not necessary here, go build a fuckin park or something. Feed the needy in the whole county for 5 years off what that damn apc costs.

Id give her directions to the local homeless shelter, and some cardboard and duct tape to fashion a roof for that Jeep.

If i have a problem, its that i care too much sometimes.

Some big fella cashier at the store had his mask over his mouth but not his nose. Not dumb but i quietly let him know that his beak hanging out meant the mask wasnt protecting him. He said it huffed warm air in his eyes. I nodded amicably and left to go get drunk.

Doe posted...

Then citizens defend themselves and shoot back

Advocating for shooting cops, there we go. You think the type of person who would shoot a cop puts their gun away when the cops are gone? Naive.

Funkydog posted...

Fuck off you plonker, with this bullshit.

Education isn't forcing people into camps to brainwash them, no matter how much you may and try make your pathetic plight similar to those who suffered genocide and other horrific crimes.

I'm sure no one ever said that before. Chill out, babycakes.

MyMainAccount posted...

He didnt ban travel from China. He banned Chinese people from entering. You see the difference here?

No he didnt. Some countries also banned Chinese nationals or forced them to get special visas. The US didnt do that.

And now Sleepy Joe is criticizing Trump for not doing it sooner. When at the time Biden was being a bitch and saying Trumps ban was xenophobic. What a scumbag Biden is.

That guy was looking for John Wick.

LightningAce11 posted...

This woman doesn't have beliefs worth having or fighting for. She needs to be educated.

You mean REeducated, im sure. They should make little camps to do that for people, help them get their mind right.

Trumps proposed travel band wasnt racist. He said he was gonna ban everyone from China, period. The epicentwr of the disease. Months later tons of countries have done the same thing, including China doing it back to us. Thats like the only thing Trump has been right about in this whole fuckin ordeal.

And he didnt ban muslims because theyre brown, he tried to ban travel from several predominantly muslim countries that support terrorism, directly or otherwise. Theres enough to criticize Trump about without just spewing bullshit.

I say defund the cops. Give em what they want.

Either crime will skyrocket and they look like idiots. Hopefully not too many eggs get cracked while youre making this omelette, as we saw in Chicago. Thats inconvenient... you know, the record levels of shootings thats been happening there. Or, crime remains the same and you saved a ton of money you can spend on another couple homeless shelters and shit like that. Paid leave for 4 months for the cops while we see what happens. They wanna be a social experiment, let em. I dont care anymore. Lets just pour gas on this trainwreck and get creative. And every actual innocent person that gets shot by criminals, were going to honor them like George Floyd and rub it in the lefts face every day.

au_gold posted...

Hows her ass?

Id skip lunch and chow her ass down for dinner.