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TopicThink of a fictional character with the name "Jack"
CableZL
07/20/20 9:50:09 PM
#30
TopicTo the homeboy on here who has a Tesla
CableZL
07/20/20 8:48:33 PM
#11
hyperpowder posted...
I'm buying a house and I really want this option for myself but idk how expensive it's going to be to put it in my garage. I heard you really dont want to use the mobile charger since it charges slow and can cause problems with the outlet.

The cost of the Tesla wall charger is about $500, I think, but you also have to pay an electrician to install the outlet. I haven't had any issues using my mobile charger, but I haven't looked into any reported problems with it.

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TopicTo the homeboy on here who has a Tesla
CableZL
07/20/20 8:42:01 PM
#9
KnightofShikari posted...
do you pay for the electricity used to charge your car? i noticed in my apartment complex that there are 2 outlets in each garage unit, one used for the garage opener, the other unused. wonder if they would be able to notice a huge increase in electric bill
Yeah, but I think it averages about $10 to month or so. I'm not exactly sure how much electricity the car has been using in the garage, but my electricity bill from May to June only went up about $13, and that's with increased AC usage.

I don't have to pay if I use a supercharger, though. I got mine with the free supercharging for life perk.

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TopicTo the homeboy on here who has a Tesla
CableZL
07/20/20 8:37:41 PM
#7
I live in an apartment. I intentionally moved to this apartment complex because there's a supercharger station right down the block and I thought I might be making the purchase soon afterward. At first I just used that exclusively. Works fine, but a tad bit inconvenient to have to go there and charge for 15 minutes to an hour, depending on how empty the battery is.

As of May 1st, I have a garage at my apartment complex in the same building I live in so I just charge it on a regular 110V outlet. It charges at a rate of 4 miles per hour, which is plenty for my normal daily driving. If I'm planning to go on a long trip (like going from San Antonio to Austin to visit my mom), then I'll just change the charging limit from ~80% to 100% a few days prior to have it charge all the way up. If I forget to do that, I just go to the supercharger down the block to charge it all the way up.

I have the option of paying an electrician to install a 240V outlet in my garage to charge faster, but I don't want to do that since I'm not planning to stay here permanently. I do use the mobile charger if I'm visiting my mom.

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TopicLondon woman freaks out on Brazilians having a private conversation
CableZL
07/20/20 4:31:07 PM
#12
I really don't understand why people care about what language someone else is speaking if they aren't speaking to you. In a multicultural society, imagine how much energy someone would spend if they freak out every time they hear someone speaking a different language. Holy shit.

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Topicwhy are conservatroll's response to not killing kids 'yeah but the economy'
CableZL
07/20/20 2:16:35 PM
#36
People also need to understand that there is no guarantee that you'll be A-OK if you don't die from COVID-19. In kids there have been reports of longer lasting side effects from having the virus. Not to mention possible lung damage and blood issues.

We're still very much learning about how COVID-19 affects us.

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Topicwhy are conservatroll's response to not killing kids 'yeah but the economy'
CableZL
07/20/20 2:02:07 PM
#24
Siaperaz posted...
Why are people trying to take things I am saying out of context?

Pointing out a blatant falsehood isn't "taking things out of context."

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Topicwhy are conservatroll's response to not killing kids 'yeah but the economy'
CableZL
07/20/20 2:01:31 PM
#22
Siaperaz posted...
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53181525

Most children experience mild symptoms. Mortality is rare.
Which means they are affected by COVID-19. If kids weren't affected by COVID-19, they would display no symptoms and would never die from it.

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Topicwhy are conservatroll's response to not killing kids 'yeah but the economy'
CableZL
07/20/20 1:55:44 PM
#9
Siaperaz posted...
Kids aren't affected by covid.

Uhh, that's false. They show milder symptoms on average, but there are reports of inflammatory illnesses related to COVID-19 happening in kids that have been infected. There are also a few kids who have died from COVID-19.

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TopicDo crips donate blood?
CableZL
07/20/20 12:24:39 PM
#1
TopicDoes your work have you "on call"?
CableZL
07/20/20 8:58:27 AM
#9
TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 4:04:56 PM
#88
He really called the questions "very hard."

Just... ridiculous levels of stupidity

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TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 3:11:16 PM
#77
SamWincester posted...
I didn't say Wallace wasn't competent. This was a comparison between him and others. An interview with the others would likely have been less contentious. The Wallace interview has been painful to watch.
Trump's stupidity is painful no matter who is interviewing him

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TopicCOVID IS SHOOK! Trump sending in US Navy Seals to combat Covid in SW/South
CableZL
07/19/20 2:00:33 PM
#4
I was told it's only spreading because of increased testing

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TopicTrump really called the world wars beautiful
CableZL
07/19/20 1:35:11 PM
#7
TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 1:23:56 PM
#68
Mezcla posted...
lmao the last couple questions are literally asking the date and time

wtf
LMAO


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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 1:16:47 PM
#81
Also, I can't find any text about the Minneapolis curfew that says you aren't allowed to sit on your porch. It says you can't go out in public, but your front porch is not a public space.

Edit:

I'm incorrect here, "if a police officer or public safety officer asks you to go inside, you must do so."

Shooting her with rubber bullets is still unnecessary, imo. Same for reporters.

Media is specifically exempted from the curfew, but they still got shot.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 1:14:18 PM
#79
Keith_Valentine posted...
Do you have any clips of police shooting people with rubber bullets in their homes? What does reporters getting blasted have to do with it, I said people at home didnt get shot. Should have said barely any. You muck around in a riot zone you could get gassed or hit, does that surprise anyone?
There was no need to shoot the woman on her porch with rubber bullets just like there was no need to shoot reporters with rubber bullets. You're trying to frame it as if the reporters were hit just by chance due to being in the area. Police specifically aimed at and shot reporters.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 1:08:49 PM
#77
thronedfire2 posted...
Banning travel from China didnt do jack fucking shit because people could just go to a different country from China and then come here

international flights should have been stopped entirely
Exactly. When dealing with a pandemic that you don't want to come from overseas, it doesn't make sense to only ban travel from one country. Especially after people who have the virus have already come to the US and other countries that we still allowed travel from.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 1:07:42 PM
#76
Keith_Valentine posted...
Nah i said in states where corona increased after a protest, i blame the protest. You misquoted me so i pointed that out.

And again, if you aren't blaming the protests in states that didn't have increases in the 2 weeks after the protests began, then you're saying that not all of the protests caused increases. Therefore the protests didn't necessarily cause increases in COVID-19 infections. The rallies did cause increases, so we're in agreement there.

Keith_Valentine posted...
s***loads of people are saying acab lately.

A large number of people saying an extreme statement doesn't mean the statement isn't extreme.

Keith_Valentine posted...
You say youre using my words, but you directly asked me a question and i asked what beliefs youre talking about. You arent throwing anything in my face, you didnt give a response so theres nothing for me to deny. Are you sober? It actually would take mental effort to pretend to not understand me as hard as you are. Its funny

You're missing the point entirely, which isn't surprising. As I've said, there is no point in discussing this in terms of "your side" or "my side." When I asked you why you were going down this useless line of discussion, your defense was that you "weren't talking about me individually."

Then when I just simply started to go down the same line of discussion but turn it around on you, you retreated into a shell of your own personal beliefs not necessarily being associated with extreme conservative trains of thought.

If we're talking apples to apples, you should understand that my "your side" statement wasn't solely directed at you. You still retreated into a shell of trying to differentiate your own beliefs from the extreme conservative beliefs before anyone even said what specific beliefs those are.

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TopicWhat is your favorite part of the chicken?
CableZL
07/19/20 12:50:11 PM
#10
R1masher posted...

Oh damn

I guess they liked it because they put a ring on it.

I'll see myself out

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TopicWhat is your favorite part of the chicken?
CableZL
07/19/20 12:47:29 PM
#7
masticatingman posted...
Chicken fajitas made from thigh meat are bomb
I'm currently eating chicken thighs with southwest fajita and lemon & herb seasoning for lunch

om nom nom

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TopicWhat is your favorite part of the chicken?
CableZL
07/19/20 12:45:45 PM
#3
R1masher posted...
The ring
Dang, chickens have bling where you're from!?

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TopicWhat is your favorite part of the chicken?
CableZL
07/19/20 12:44:26 PM
#1
My favorite part of the chicken is the...






My vote goes to the thigh.
  • Juicy AF
  • Flavorful AF


Boneless chicken thighs are my jam

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 12:35:03 PM
#72
This is hilarious.

Keith_Valentine: Your side is full of extreme liberal views! I'm not talking about you individually, though!

*gets argument thrown back in his face*

Keith_Valentine: MY beliefs aren't like that!

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 12:32:26 PM
#71
Keith_Valentine posted...
Eh i have been using handwaving wrong. Go figure. I dunno where i picked that up. You were excusing and somewhat justifying it then.

Im not misunderstanding, you claimed i said every state where there were protests had an increase in corona, thats false. You insult my reading comprehension again and say that s***, funny. Post #65

Oh, my mistake. Since not every state that had a protest had a spike in COVID-19 infections in the 2 weeks following the start of the protests, you're saying not every protest is responsible for a spike in COVID-19 infections. Great. There were spikes in infections after the rallies.

Glad that's settled.

Keith_Valentine posted...
I already explained the protests and the woman on a her porch is an isolated example, big f***in deal.

They aren't isolated at all, though. We have multiple incidents on video of police shooting reporters with rubber bullets. Even reporters from other countries.

Keith_Valentine posted...
Acab is not that extreme lately. What extreme conservatism would you be referring to, my beliefs are pretty diverse.

Uhh, yeah, the thought that "all cops are bad" is extreme since that's not at all what reality shows.

Keith_Valentine posted...
What extreme conservatism would you be referring to, my beliefs are pretty diverse.

I'll use your own words here:

Keith_Valentine posted...
Everything in my posts isnt an accusation directed at you, its a train of thought as im expressing what i think about the entire situation.


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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 12:16:25 PM
#69
Keith_Valentine posted...
Yea Cable, you did handwave the protests and the riots. Its that great big BUT you toss in. Riots are bad BUT, Protests are dangerous BUT etc.

That's not what hand-waving is. You would benefit from actually understanding what that means before continuing this discussion.

Keith_Valentine posted...
I didnt say protests caused a spike in every state, i said i blame protests for the increase in corona every state that occured since you blame the rally for that in Oklahoma. Youre wrong again.

You seem to have a very simple-minded understanding of this issue. I've said repeatedly that both the rallies and the protests contributed to the spread of the virus. Your poor reading comprehension isn't my problem.

Keith_Valentine posted...
And protests did result in millions in damage and theft, the riots occured because of the protests, they go hand in hand. Rioters used the cause to benefit themselves. Thats it. Not every protestor is a rioter but every rioter was a protestor directly or in spirit. No he didnt get beat? People who were at home.

The protests didn't result in millions in damage and theft. The riots did. The riots didn't happen because of the protests. The riots happened because:
  • The anger over police brutality has been bubbling up for decades at the very least.
  • People who don't care about said anger and just want to use the chaos to get free stuff
  • People inciting violence when they don't care about either of the above two things.


It's possible to understand where the anger comes from without believing the act (rioting) is justified. Chris Dorner is a perfect example of that. I understand why Chris Dorner was angry. What he did as a result of that anger is inexcusable.

Keith_Valentine posted...
No he didnt get beat? People who were at home.

False. There is video of a woman on her front porch getting shot with rubber bullets.

Keith_Valentine posted...
Your side is full of acab and thats what i was referring to

Trying to discuss this in terms of "your side" or "my side" is useless, but since you want to go down that path:

You're referencing an extreme liberal line of thinking and calling it "my side." Are extreme conservative lines of thinking not "your side," by comparison?

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TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 11:57:40 AM
#34
"The questions get really hard at the end!"

What a whiny petulant child

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 11:54:28 AM
#67
ScazarMeltex posted...
I mean that's mostly what he does.

He's seriously trying to talk about "your people's claims" while referencing extreme left wing claims, but would throw a fit if someone in any way associated the extreme right wing with him.

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TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 11:49:15 AM
#29
Trump is seriously out here acting like a cognitive test is the SAT or something.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 11:41:35 AM
#65
Keith_Valentine posted...
What a bunch of bulls*** drivel. Its just "whoops i got called out on this dumb s*** i said, lets move on to the next" with you. Like one unforgivable tragedy justifies millions in damages and endangering the public in the middle of a pandemic. Especially after the same people spent weeks saying the exact opposite and everyone needed to shutdown and stay inside. Theres no defense you can make or appeal to emotion that changes that.

'Goddam im so f***in mad about George Floyd im gonna rob the Gucci store and break out my neighbors windows'. Then whine about police brutality when they get their asses kicked for breaking the law and burning cities. Not every protestor is a rioter, well not every cop is a homicidal maniac. That claim is coming from some of your people, i know the difference.

You're having a lot of trouble reading properly. I never said the riots were justified. I specifically said they were a bad idea and unfortunate. I'm just saying I understand where the anger comes from. And you are in no position to complain about "bullshit drivel" when you've spouted tons of bullshit drivel this whole topic.

Keith_Valentine posted...
Anyways I agree with the rest and yes he does care about being called racist.

If Trump cared about being called racist:
  • He wouldn't have hired Stephen Miller or Steve Bannon, much less continue to have Stephen Miller dictate immigration policy for his entire presidency.
  • He wouldn't be defending the confederacy.
  • He wouldn't have refused to rent to black people.
  • He would have apologized after calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5 years and years after they were exonerated.
You also said protests caused a spike in COVID-19 infections in every state they happened in. Again, false.

You call things bullshit drivel when they don't agree with your narrative. You're fine with your own bullshit, though.

You said this:

Keith_Valentine posted...
And the rally didnt result in multiple millions of dollars in property destruction or theft eitger. Not to mention violence, duh.

The protests didn't result in multiple millions of dollars in property destruction, theft, or violence. The riots did. You're just trying to conflate the two as if they're one and the same.

Keith_Valentine posted...
I am reading, youre acting like im only referring to you in the way youre selectively quoting my post.

And it's funny that you say this and then go on to say:

Keith_Valentine posted...
That claim is coming from some of your people

Who are my people, and why are you associating their claims with what I'm saying? I never said every cop is a homicidal maniac. I do, however, have a problem with the history of police officers not speaking out against things like what we saw with George Floyd. There is also a documented history of police officers who do speak out getting bullied and fired after trying to speak out. Fortunately, things seem to be changing in this regard.

That doesn't mean I think every cop is a homicidal maniac whatsoever.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 11:19:44 AM
#61
Keith_Valentine posted...
Not gonna acknowledge the sneaky way you tried to frame my post as if I were stupid and just referring to you. Thats typical, and sleazy.

No the protests werent better, and it was many more people spread across multiple states. You wanna blame a rally for the uptick in corona in Oklahoma, then i blame the protests in every state they occured that had an increase. It doesnt take a big brain to see which one was worse and way more dangerous. And the rally didnt result in multiple millions of dollars in property destruction or theft eitger. Not to mention violence, duh.

Not every state had an increase in the 2 weeks following the start of the protests, though.

And yes, the property destruction and violence in the riots was incredibly unfortunate. However, they are the result of anger that has been bubbling up in the country for decades at the very least. The George Floyd incident was just the match that ignited all this.

Multiple onlookers peacefully begged the Minneapolis police officers to get off of George Floyd's neck so that he could breathe. They recognized the fact that he was about to die. The police officers refused to listen, though. Riots are an unfortunate consequence of desperate peaceful pleas being deliberately ignored.

Riots are a bad idea, but let's not pretend people didn't try the peaceful way first. Let's also not pretend the rioters and protesters are the same people.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 11:01:32 AM
#57
Keith_Valentine posted...
I am reading, youre acting like im only referring to you in the way youre selectively quoting my post. When im obviously referring to outcry from Trump opposers and the media and exposing their hypocrisy. You said yourself the protests werent as bad as the rally because protestors were mostly wearing masks (sure) and it was 'outside'. When its comparing 6000 or so to hundreds of thousands. As if everyone showed up individually and went home that way, not packed in cars or on the subway or in buildings during, before, and after. Youre also just clarifying your position on the protests as you go, there was nothing to read because you didnt mention it till two posts ago.

Yeah, circulated air and indoor environments are known to spread respiratory viruses more than outdoor environments. Especially when you're comparing an indoor environment with thousands of people sitting shoulder to shoulder and refusing to wear masks and an outdoor environment where most people are wearing masks.

Any picture or video of the protests shows that the vast majority of people participating are wearing masks. Sure, a lot of people aren't, but again, that's still better than thousands of people sitting next to each other for hours and refusing to wear masks.

That does not imply that either activity is "safe." The one where most people are at least wearing masks is better, though. This shouldn't be that hard to understand.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 10:27:24 AM
#54
Keith_Valentine posted...
For the third time, i said the early call for a ban was about the only thing the f***er was right about corona. You claimed it was too late

Because it was too late. People from China had already come here with the virus by the time he "banned" travel from China. Chinese residents were still coming here after the "ban" was put in place.

Keith_Valentine posted...
And its insanely hypocritical and two faced how the people screaming about killing grandpa and shutting down the country didnt say s*** and actually encouraged the protests and even the rioters who flooded the streets by the thousands and burned s*** to the ground.

Again, I never said protests weren't responsible for the spread. Protests absolutely contributed to spreading the virus.

Keith_Valentine posted...
Then came right back and blasted Trumps small rally like THAT was gonna be the cause of a corona explosion.

Uhh, because it did. Oklahoma saw an increase in infections in the weeks following the Trump rally.

Keith_Valentine posted...
You dont know how many protestors were wearing a damn mask, even if a majority was there were still thousands who werent. So its not safe to wear masks and get back to work but its cool to wear masks and tear down statues. Made it so obvious where peoples priorities were with the selective outrage. If we gather its ok, if you gather its f***ed up. Corny

Not sure how many times this needs to be repeated, and maybe you're having trouble reading because you're so emotional... But I never said protesting was in any way "safe" in this regard. I've said repeatedly during the course of the protests that they're absolutely going to contribute to spreading the virus.

Not sure why you're going on this tangent. You should try actually reading.

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TopicThe President, on the cognitive test
CableZL
07/19/20 10:10:18 AM
#4
TopicRemember when "health experts" discouraged mask use
CableZL
07/19/20 10:07:09 AM
#13
PrideOfLion posted...
Wasn't that said so healthcare workers could get as many masks as possible without causing a shortage. Or is that a conspiracy theory?
Fauci recently said that's exactly why he was discouraging the general public from wearing masks early on.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 10:04:12 AM
#51
Keith_Valentine posted...
Yea and some of your claims about the ban were still false, which is all i said all along. Because you are gonna cry about anything Trump does and thats the way it is. Just get your facts straight next time. And you would blame Trumps 6000 person rally over the hundreds of thousands of protestors crammed together all across the US for weeks. No middle ground with a zealot.

I find it funny that you consider discussing Trump's well-documented history of racism and idiocy "crying about anything Trump does."

I think Trump has done a few good things during his presidency, but the bad far outweighs those things, so it's obviously going to dominate conversation of the subject.

I also never claimed protests weren't responsible for contributing to the spread of the virus. However, there is a difference between outdoor protests where most people are wearing masks and an indoor rally with thousands of people refusing to wear masks or follow any sort of social distancing guidelines.

You would also think the leader of a nation dealing with a pandemic wouldn't encourage people to ignore social distancing guidelines, let alone have rallies where they actively remove any signs giving guidance about social distancing.

But nope. Trump is a narcissistic moron, so he's going to do just that.

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TopicIs $10,000 a lot of money to you?
CableZL
07/19/20 9:54:43 AM
#7
Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:48:27 AM
#49
ScazarMeltex posted...
"Hurr durr, if you don't like living in a country filled with anti-science and anti-expertise morons you should go live somewhere else."
Or people could just not be morons. I don't think that's a difficult ask here man.

It's also worth mentioning that many other countries don't even want us to go there at the moment because of how badly we've handled the pandemic.

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TopicGuy points laser at a UFO and it starts going crazy! We are NOT alone O_O
CableZL
07/19/20 9:45:32 AM
#17
Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:40:36 AM
#47
And because there's gotta be a Trump tweet for everything...

https://i.imgur.com/aPkEkzh.png

But now that Trump is our "leader," he has spent his entire presidency blaming everyone else for his own mistakes.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:35:37 AM
#46
Keith_Valentine posted...
I just checked and Chinas first corona case wasnt identified until late November. You said Trump should have acted in October, so i guess he has to be omniscient for you to not b****. Boom, youre wrong.

I said "October and November," but was incorrect in that regard because the first identified case was indeed in November. Still, waiting to "ban" travel from China until after it had already spread to other countries and still allowing Chinese residents to travel here after the ban was put in place is just idiotic.

Keith_Valentine posted...
He also declared a public health emergency almost immediately. Like i said, it would have gone a lot smoother if Democrats had shut the f*** up. And its all screwed anyways. Just annoying guys like you that try nail Trump for s*** that isnt even true because youre ignorant. The reality is bad enough, stick to that.

You seem to be the one getting emotional here. It would have gone a lot smoother if Trump didn't ignore advice from health experts on how to handle the pandemic. It would have gone a lot smoother if Trump didn't repeatedly downplay the severity of the pandemic.

Trump as recently as the past couple weeks said he still thinks the virus is magically going to go away. Trump is actively contributing to spreading the virus by having in-person rallies.

Plain and simple, he's a moron who is in over his head.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:31:12 AM
#45
EnterTheTekken posted...
Questions for you: If initial reports were made and publicized by Chinese public health officials and echoed by the WHO regarding no human-to-human transmission of COVID-19, wouldn't a travel ban that early in the first stages of the Wuhan outbreak appear xenophobic? Or at the very least, politically motivated? Also, were other countries restricting travel to and from China in that same time frame?

Sure, it would appear politically motivated because Trump has been on a weird crusade against China with his trade war his whole presidency. I'm also of the belief that other countries banned travel from China too late. Our "China travel ban" wasn't actually a ban at all, either. We still allowed Americans to travel there and come back. We still allowed Chinese residents to come here after the "ban" was put in place.

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TopicYou can cite any excuse and not wear a mask.
CableZL
07/19/20 9:23:43 AM
#2
You don't have a right to be in a private establishment at all, though, which is where this all falls short.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:18:53 AM
#42
Keith_Valentine posted...
Yea if you notice im not defending his handling on this. Im taking exception to your claims he should have acted sooner on a ban if he was gonna do so, because he called for it before basically any other country. Again i reiterate, it was about the only thing he was right about. And he caught a wave of s*** that was grand standing, because now Biden himself is dissing Trump for not acting sooner. When his sorry ass was calling Trump xenophobic in the first place. I dont care if you hate Trump, some of your claims are just false because DJT makes you emotional.

You said no one knew how bad this would get when that's blatantly false. A lot of people were raising the alarm and trying to get him to listen early on, but he refused. I'm not getting emotional. I'm talking about what has actually happened.

Keith_Valentine posted...
If people wanna fly the rebel flag, i dont give a s***. We get it, you think Trump is racist, dont you get bored saying it over and over? Everyone that agrees with you already does, and people that dont wont care. Its like you cant even help yourself, just make your goddam point.

It's not about what I think. I'm talking about Trump's well-documented history of racism. You can try to hand-wave Trump's actual history of racism for your own comfort if you want, but let's not pretend it didn't happen.

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TopicLol this happened in nyc
CableZL
07/19/20 9:15:03 AM
#12
I waited for something interesting to happen and it never did.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:07:34 AM
#39
If Trump cared about being called racist, he probably wouldn't be trying to defend the confederacy as hard as he is. He has also kept Stephen Miller on his administration the whole time, so yeah, I doubt he cares. Not to mention his well documented history of racism.

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Topicthis is South Korea right now
CableZL
07/19/20 9:06:55 AM
#38
Keith_Valentine posted...
He finally banned travel at about the same time everyone else did. Saying he should have done it in October when people had no idea how bad this would get is unfair. It didn't even blow up in China until around December.

Uhh, a lot of people had an idea of how bad it could get. Obama left a whole playbook on how to handle a pandemic as well as aglobal pandemic response team, but Trump got rid of them and completely ignored the playbook he was left with. He also ignored all advice from the CDC, WHO, and health experts on how to handle the pandemic.

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