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Deathstroke - Manu Bennett

Simon Culp - Finn Balor


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Penguin - Toby Jones

Brutale - Guillermo Diaz


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Neron - Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

Lady Vic - Natalie Dormer


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Hugo Strange - Christopher Waltz

Fate - Oscar Isaac


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Jesse Custer - Dominic Cooper

Victor Zsasz - Armie Hammer


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Duela Dent - Annie Murphy

Riddler - Alan Tudyk


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Sarah Essen-Gordon - Cate Blanchett

Jim Gordon - Bryan Cranston


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Trish - Blake Lively

Cluemaster - John Hamm


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Oracle - Anya Taylor-Joy


Mackenzie Bock - Sterling K. Brown


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Isis - Tricia Helfer

Patch - Jesse Plemons


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Rosetta - Saoirse Ronan

Varra - Katrina Law


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Obrov - Dominic Purcell

Riev - Matt Bomer

Tali - Lenora Crichlow

Fastbreak - Joe Keery



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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Fields - Freddie Highmore

Artemis - Zach Braff

Ghost - Chandler Riggs


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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Phenomenal show.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

PoE for me, and it worked out wonderfully! I so backed this one as well. Hoping to go two for two.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

And yet Dark Phoenix disproves that

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Djungelurban posted...

The fact that The Last Stand isn't at the very bottom of your rankings invalidates any and all further opinions you may have.

The fact that you don't have Dark Phoenix at the bottom invalidates yours.

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Absolutely out of nowhere. What a tough loss; he so well embodied the role of Black Panther, and that's certainly no easy task.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

no

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Oh, that could conceivably pull a good amount.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I'm curious what their question-marked goals are. I can't imagine they think they'll stretch to $5 million in 20 hours.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I have no idea when this takes place, but it's the funniest way to end a battle between two characters I love.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Constantine technically can't die due to taking three separate deals that would force the Lords of Hell to war and destroy all of existence.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

He's the best user we've ever had.

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I CAN'T PICK THIS MATCH THlS HURTS

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I think you misread that sentence.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Tremendous first half of the season, but I'll wait until you finish before I say more!

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No, he re-signed to make an obscene amount of money for doing nothing of substantive value.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I know it's Shepard and Garrus but shout-out to Warden and Alistair!

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

A Nightwing movie would hopefully feature Nightwing characters.

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ZenOfThunder posted...

better "interactivity"

what the fuck does that even mean

Edible

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Steiner, dammit. I hate myself for doing it.

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Yeah, the Boss is pretty OP as hell against poor Squall. I wonder if the Boss could solo Squall with the Dubstep Gun, honestly.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Mr Lasastryke posted...

all of this makes sense. but the thing is that, while i make my fair share of negative posts, i consider myself to be a fairly positive person in general and i do try to talk about the things i like as much as i can. just a few recent examples: i'm running a topic about my favorite music artist in which i constantly talk about all of the aspects of his music i adore (and i've been doing this for the past 8 years btw). i said the latest video game music contest was "by far my favorite VGMC ever." i said back to the future is my favorite movie released in the '80s. it's just weird to me that, even if you make plenty of positive posts, people still think you can make "too many" negative posts and you have to "tone down the negativity."

Totally get it. I read a study not too long ago where psychologists determined that people are vastly more sensitive to negativity in general. There was a statistic along the lines of, for every 1 negative comment, it needs to be offset by five positive comments, and most people only talk neutrally in casual conversation, so a negative skew is something that's really easy to establish.

It's not a fault of you, per se. But I would agree with those findings; it's hard to dig yourself out of that sort of perceptive hole.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Mr Lasastryke posted...

and it's not just david who's making this point. all the time, i see this "why are you so negative?" criticism on the board (sometimes directed at me). it makes no sense and it's antithetical to interesting discussions.

I think, generally speaking, negative posts stand at a disadvantage by their very nature, and unsolicited ones have an uphill job of feeling meaningful. So if you have a history of them, much like someone you would meet in the real world, people may be less inclined to spend time with a negative person. You also don't have tone on a board, right? So it's just tough to convey, I don't know how to explain this, the natural positivity in a person's disposition that sort of counterbalances negative commentary or criticism. If that makes sense. I'm sure a lot of people think I'm negative when I don't mean to represent myself as such on the board, just because you can't see a person's face or hear their vocal inflection. You're not wrong about the idea of quantifying negative posts, but I don't begrudge David for being irritated by a user who is often painted in a negative light by their posts.

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Do I have a reputation on this board for being overly negative towards The Last Jedi?

You have a reputation on this board, all right.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Negativity is demonized because it's too often worn as a badge of honor by those who brandish it. It isn't presented as something that can lead to constructive conversations on this board. I think Biscuit is guilty of that sort of useless negativity for sure, but also you can definitely engage him and have enjoyable discussions despite it. I can only speak to how he is in the topics I care about though. In the wrestling topics, I wouldn't say he's a particularly egregious negative user at all, though. He definitely has just as much he enjoys as he hates in a medium where fans are generally negative.

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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

What ARE some of these character choices? Lol I mean, I have faith in it, but man. Really surprised they landed with a bunch of these losers. Kind of groaning at Harley Quinn being in this movie too.

Imagine not understanding the gimmick of Suicide Squad

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

Suicide Squad's whole premise is a plot hole. What exactly are Harley Quinn and Deadshot supposed to do against a "Superman-level" threat? I know what the Squad was meant for in the comics and it wasn't this!

Dude, it was exactly this.

Please stop pretending to be an authority on things you know nothing about. Like Star Wars.

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My previous experience with Kickstarter was backing Pillars of Eternity, and that was definitely worth the investment!

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Keith David in Saints Row is also great

Both roles!

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For a pseudo-celeb, let's talk about Nolan North as Nolan North in Saints Row IV.

For a big name celebrity, Patrick Stewart in Oblivion really springs to mind as an iconic role.

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Ezio. Banging it out at age 50.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

FBike1 posted...

Who cares?

This is so valueless and destructive to the community atmosphere of the board. Not every thread is for everyone. You don't need to advertise that you don't care.

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Dragon Age Inquisition

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Lasa, I think it's really tough to look at a run of comics that increased in readership over time from being on the chopping block at its beginning to becoming a million-copy selling title at the end of the run and say, "Man, that writer really drove away new readers." It's interesting, to me, that no one ever looks at a popular serialized show like Game of Thrones and demands jumping-on points five years into a show. The danger with demanding this accessibility is that it negates the opportunity for writers to dig into the material and find something new. Instead, with comics going so far out of the way as of late to create accessibility, the storytelling has become basic and lacks new, penetrating insight.

colliding posted...

Today's comics are spread out between the actual titles (that reset every 12 issues), main events, and-spin-off titles for events. Characters die and come back all the time, simply because new authors don't keep up with continuity. It's just a mess because things never settle back to a status quo now.

This is an editorial issue. This is a mandate from the adminstrative side of the company that does in fact leave a reader high and dry. Continuity is easy to manage when you let series run long, consistent runs. You can have sweeping changes in your continuity and allow it to affect a series without making the series impenetrable. Ultimate Marvel (until Ultimatum) was a perfect example of comic titles touching each other without entangling in each other. Ultimate Spider-Man made complete acknowledgment of everything happening in the Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men, but never demanded that every detail of those titles be read to follow it. And that's why it worked. Because those titles happened, but they aren't this title.

Ultimate Spider-Man never created a "jumping on" point in its 130 issues. In fact, the moment it decided to create a jumping on point, the title fell into decline. And that was the issue of a reboot. For decades new readers didn't demand new issues ones. You could slide in, bump into a bit of a learning curve at times, but ultimately settle into a long-running series. Those series could be filled with complexity and heavy continuity, but readers were able to slip into these titles because there was consistency, and certain overarching foundational pillars that served as a status quo. Uncanny X-Men is a perfect example of how to be very complex and drive up sales at the same time.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Lasa, I will argue that serialized storytelling is not the issue. The issue is BAD writing, poor editorial leadership and a clear lack of accessibility of material. The price tag has been brought up before - it's an issue. Bad writing that wants to reinvent the wheel constantly is an issue. Erratic drivers at the company's helm - like the recently ousted Didio - is an issue. What shouldn't be demonized though is the idea of serialized storytelling. The most successful show of this decade didn't give a damn about accessibility, and it never suffered a decline in viewership. The most successful years of comics in this millennium was all about diving headfirst into the two biggest comic events ever - and people ate them up because there was an urgency to the storytelling. And the biggest comics of the 20th century from both companies - the New Teen Titans and Uncanny X-Men - were the most serialized stories being told in comics in those decades.

As someone who worked at a comics shop, I realize my base was hardcore readers. But when the complaints from those readers was almost always, without question, that things reset too much, that new writers kept changing things for changes sake, and that title reboots were getting consistently less enjoyable with each passing iteration, the problem becomes not knowing your base. Even with bad writing being mixed in with the good on every level with Infinite Crisis and Civil War, people had a thirst for those two particular events because there was an urgency with those events - what DC and Marvel should be doing is embracing the importance of things mattering in their titles, with a focus on not handwaving away changes but rather fostering an idea that anything could happen, and that when it does... it matters.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

The issue was never continuity but the removal of direct market sales and a failure to maintain prices appropriate to the reading audience not to mention being outmoded by technology thanks to the Diamond sales model.

Continuity is an easy way to dismiss the actual issues, but comics that have low bars set for continuity never could find sales precisely because of those issues. Walking Dead should have, by your accounts, become a huge seller and yet it never reached the numbers of the 80s and 90s because of the systemic issues involved with comics now.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

Reading 52 every week as it came out was a truly phenomenal comics experience; my friends and I probably read the entire series 5 or 6 times because of it, just to find every hint or clue.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

I believe that there is value in using HBOMax as the new place for comics writers to spin out the ideas that need to be cannibalized by bigger value shows and movies. Turn comics into 8-minute animated shorts that release monthly for each title. Grant Morrison would watch just as well as he reads.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful

This is the issue with short-term ratings affecting long-term booking. Much like climate change, it's the running trend that matters.

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"It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful