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TopicBoard 8 Match of the Week - Week 1 [wrestling]
NBIceman
09/14/20 2:25:44 PM
#23
I actually like PWG commentary. Unless you're talking about the early days, I guess.

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TopicBoard 8 Match of the Week - Week 1 [wrestling]
NBIceman
09/14/20 1:20:40 AM
#18
Dragon Gate Tag
I've always loved tag wrestling, and Dragon Gate's always managed to do it better than most. I agree with Bidoof that this match does seem to have been unfortunately forgotten, and a lot of that probably has to do with the talent on the challenger side. The thing about this match is that it was really a big step in the coming out parties of T-Hawk and Eita, but, well... T-Hawk just never really caught on despite the considerable effort put into him - he had to leave DG to become awesome - and Eita, depending on who you ask, has only recently found his legs with RED or still hasn't at all.

They were damn good here, though. The Millenials era, for my money, has been the best run for either guy in the company. They were still new, felt exciting, and always put in a hell of a lot of effort. Shingo and Tozawa still feel like the stars, because of course they do, but part of that is because the youngsters do such a great job of helping them come off that way. Steiner mentioned the 1-count kickout, and yeah, a well-placed one of those will always pop me just like it did the live crowd. Heh. Remember those?

I will say that I never really felt like this match did enough to differentiate itself from the laundry list of great DG tags to be truly memorable, but that's less an indictment here and more of a testament to the consistent quality of the Twin Gate division. And it's not like it feels out of place among all those examples, either, which is a hell of a compliment in itself.

I wasn't tracking my star ratings when this match happened so I don't remember what I'd have given it, and rarely do I give retroactive ratings, but I can guarantee it would've gone in the spreadsheet for me at 4+ and it definitely still holds up today.

WALTER/Thatcher
I'd have to think a bit to determine whether I agree with Steiner about this being PROGRESS's best match ever, but it's a strong contender. It was a top 15 match of 2018 for me at 4.75 stars, which is saying something considering I had an Iceman all-time high seven matches at the full five that year.

The word "brutal" gets thrown around a lot in wrestling, and while I wouldn't go so far as to say it's often undeserved, I do think that when you put some of those thusly-described matches against this one, you'll see a clear difference. In concert with my previously mentioned love for tag wrestling, I've always loved partners facing each other, especially when it's presented like this. No animosity - just so much respect that they know they can't give anything less than their best shot.

I've never been as down on Thatcher's stateside work as many (that doesn't mean I wanted to see his long EVOLVE reign any more than anyone else, mind), but there's an obvious difference when you see him in Europe, and it's on full display here. He always gives the impression of a guy who'd be called a film junkie in other sports, coming into his matches with a dedicated game plan and executing it to perfection. WALTER does a great job playing off that, selling limb work the way it always should be done - his hand isn't completely useless and he doesn't ignore it, either; it's just less effective.

Both guys really bring it here, and there's some awesome spots that I still remembered perfectly prior to my rewatch that will continue to stick with me after now. The backdrop countered into a lariat, the stomps to the head, the chop to the face... They're all expertly placed and do a great job tying this match into its violent little bow. Fantastic stuff and it deserves all the praise it's ever gotten.

Oh yeah, by the way, I'd forgotten how terrible PROGRESS commentary was, so that was a fun reminder as well.

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TopicRaetsel's third annual music ranking topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/12/20 4:54:43 PM
#116
Alright, I changed my mind - I'm going Neutrality. >_>

ALBUM
The Dear Hunter - Act IV: Rebirth in Reprise
https://open.spotify.com/album/0TCkVVN1AfEtMP3IjVD1Zi

And I'll go ahead and repost the seven extra songs from before in this post just so it's all in one convenient location.

Avantasia - Runaway Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtwoQRQVAQ

Electric Light Orchestra - Tightrope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rpLTRiJyRA

Evan Carson - Otriad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KscSw_t-6Yg

iamthemorning - Lighthouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4K88dqi1A

Savatage - Gutter Ballet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIFVzhWRjDM

Subsignal - La Muerta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S-hTpKJoWo

White Moth Black Butterfly - Tempest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKz_pb4NLU

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TopicName a user and I'll tell you why they suck. Right after I finish mowing.
NBIceman
09/11/20 1:12:12 PM
#11
steiner

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TopicRaetsel's third annual music ranking topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/10/20 1:02:46 AM
#72
I'll get my other 8 in for Chaos soon.

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 1
NBIceman
09/08/20 6:37:05 PM
#55
Bills

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TopicWhat is your favorite R.E.M. song?
NBIceman
09/08/20 5:40:58 PM
#3
Without thinking about it too hard, probably Man on the Moon.

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TopicBoard 8 Match of the Week - Week 1 [wrestling]
NBIceman
09/07/20 8:55:40 PM
#5
I like the format Bidoof just came up with so I'm stealing it.

Iceman's Match Recommendation (Week 1)

Roderick Strong vs. Zack Sabre Jr.
EVOLVE, EVOLVE 45 - July 10, 2015
Match Link: https://www.bilibili.com/video/av19712863/

These two wrestled a few times in 2015, and while they were all fantastic matches, two of them took place in PWG and had a completely different dynamic, laden with story and emotion and animosity because Strong was playing a fairly long-reigning shitbird heel champion there at the time and Sabre was the most popular act in the promotion.

This match was, on the other hand, thrown together at literally the final hour. Another talent booked on the show had travel issues, so the whole card had to be reconfigured. This bout had no feud, no story, not even any real stakes. It was just two great wrestlers trying to decide who was better. And ordinarily, that would tend to be a bad thing. But in this case, what all those missing pieces actually did was give them freedom. Without any confines, they could literally just do whatever they wanted.

And what they did was to put together one of the smoothest and cleanest matches I've ever seen, in the conversation as one of the best indie offerings of all time. Roddy Strong has spent his entire career being the most unassumingly incredible wrestler in the world - unbelievably consistent but never flashy or popular enough to be widely thought of as one of the greats, 2015 was his magnum opus, and outings like this made him my personal pick for 2015 Wrestler of the Year. Zack, for his part, was smack in the middle of his big breakout period - he won his first Wrestling Observer award for Best Technical Wrestler the year prior and has picked up five more since. All of those considerable talents were on display here between two consummate professionals who knew exactly how to play to each other's strengths and build a match with all the brutal beauty that makes up pro wrestling.

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TopicRaetsel's third annual music ranking topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/06/20 1:30:32 AM
#52
Alrighty, I think I'm likely going the CHAOS route, but I'm gonna start with just seven in case I decide to pivot to NEUTRALITY later.

Avantasia - Runaway Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtwoQRQVAQ

Electric Light Orchestra - Tightrope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rpLTRiJyRA

Evan Carson - Otriad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KscSw_t-6Yg

iamthemorning - Lighthouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4K88dqi1A

Savatage - Gutter Ballet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIFVzhWRjDM

Subsignal - La Muerta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S-hTpKJoWo

White Moth Black Butterfly - Tempest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpKz_pb4NLU

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 501: Thunderdome???
NBIceman
09/05/20 10:52:04 PM
#449
FTR could be another in the somewhat long line of wrestlers who looked way better than they actually were due to the amount of rehearsing NXT did for their matches.

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TopicAre you a metallica fan?
NBIceman
09/03/20 11:29:21 PM
#3
As James Hetfield would say...

Yeah

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TopicRaetsel's third annual music ranking topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/03/20 8:58:35 PM
#20
Thanks for the list, I'll get my noms in soon enough!

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TopicScarlet Rates and Ranks User-Nominated Characters
NBIceman
09/03/20 5:45:30 PM
#19
Steiner posted...
"the fiend" bray wyatt
damn it steiner these are two different characters don't you pay any attention to the lore at all

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TopicScarlet Rates and Ranks User-Nominated Characters
NBIceman
09/03/20 5:28:17 PM
#6
Saint Walker (DC Comics)

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TopicRaetsel's third annual music ranking topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/03/20 5:10:14 PM
#11
Steiner posted...
me too please
Me as well, if you don't mind. I can barely remember what I've nommed before.

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TopicSuper Mario Bros 35th Anniversary Direct
NBIceman
09/03/20 11:08:07 AM
#70
The limited run is just a FOMO thing, I imagine.

Like, I don't really have any interest in the collection - I can play 64 any time I like and I don't really have a strong connection with Sunshine or Galaxy - but the fact that it's limited almost makes me want to buy it just for posterity. Not quite, but almost. And I'd expect there are folks sort of like me that will be swayed.

Still not sure it makes a whole lot of sense, but if that is indeed their thought process I guess I can kind of understand it.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 501: Thunderdome???
NBIceman
09/02/20 9:40:53 PM
#375
scarletspeed7 posted...
@NBIceman You're missing a good meltdown.
Darn.

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TopicDo you like this character? Day 1222: Sans (Undertale)
NBIceman
09/02/20 2:30:44 PM
#15
Yes

I don't care much for Undertale and I'm sick to death of the memes surrounding the guy just like everybody is, but that doesn't stop him from being a really interesting character.

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TopicSuper Mario 64 - hardest star in the game?
NBIceman
09/01/20 11:55:18 AM
#16
Rainbow Ride 100 coins

Wing Mario Over the Rainbow gets an honorable mention.

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TopicSo when does Tales of Xillia 2 pick up?
NBIceman
08/29/20 7:58:09 PM
#21
xp1337 posted...
i will not let this xillia 2 slander stand

actually i will because i don't feel like getting into it now but it is a top tier tales game
Can always count on my boy xp to back me up where Tales is concerned.

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TopicDo you like this character? Day 1220: Eleven (Stranger Things)
NBIceman
08/29/20 7:18:01 PM
#9
GenesisSaga posted...
Yes though Season 3 was a bit rough on most Stranger Things characters


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TopicSo when does Tales of Xillia 2 pick up?
NBIceman
08/29/20 5:42:30 PM
#8
I'll be the dissenting opinion to KCF and say that I do think Xillia 2 does find its footing eventually and hit some real emotional highs by the end of the game.

I have my issues with the story and I couldn't tell you exactly when it picks up - it's been a while since my last playthrough - but I think it sticks the landing really well all said.

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TopicBest Link fairyish companion?
NBIceman
08/28/20 2:31:32 PM
#3
I voted KoRL but will note that I think Fi gets more hate than deserved.

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TopicDo you like this character? Day 1218: Disco Inferno (WCW)
NBIceman
08/28/20 1:11:06 AM
#22
No.

Glad to have this back!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 501: Thunderdome???
NBIceman
08/24/20 11:33:41 PM
#211
I love when I get a notification that there's twenty new posts in this topic and I only see, like, 5 of them.

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TopicWorst DC Extended Universe movie?
NBIceman
08/22/20 6:53:01 PM
#21
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Suicide Squad's whole premise is a plot hole. What exactly are Harley Quinn and Deadshot supposed to do against a "Superman-level" threat? I know what the Squad was meant for in the comics and it wasn't this!
People misusing the term "plot hole" is so unbelievably annoying.

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TopicB8's Greatest Wrestlers Ever Ranking Top 10
NBIceman
08/20/20 1:37:38 PM
#79
Whiskey_Nick posted...
I still think I should have done the HBK write up
I mean, no one's gonna stop you from posting one if you feel so inclined. This list is for discussion as much as anything. I know I didn't cover everything there is to cover about HBK - I didn't try to.

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TopicMarble League topic
NBIceman
08/19/20 11:45:57 PM
#69
Yep, 12 open spots for the qualifiers.

And Greg Woods doesn't have a favorite team - says he likes them all equally.

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TopicB8's Greatest Wrestlers Ever Ranking Top 10
NBIceman
08/19/20 6:20:04 PM
#64
That was my writeup, by the way, so if y'all think it's subpar like I do, you can direct your critiques here!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 501: Thunderdome???
NBIceman
08/18/20 3:10:26 PM
#17
Okay, yeah, that perspective makes sense.

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TopicI rank VGM soundtracks (...sort of) [ranking]
NBIceman
08/18/20 2:26:41 PM
#93
Great soundtrack to a very underappreciated game.

This was in reference to Sonic Shuffle.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 501: Thunderdome???
NBIceman
08/18/20 12:35:32 PM
#12
Maniac64 posted...
So the "random teams" tourney ends with the two actual teams in the final.

Worst Lethal Lottery ever.
No, this is how it should be.

Actual, established teams should go over two thrown-together singles workers 95% of the time.

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TopicMarble League topic
NBIceman
08/16/20 10:24:10 PM
#59
Nice strong finish from CCE. If only they hadn't been so incompetent in the other speed events, they'd have really been contenders. But they get to host next year, hell yeah!

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TopicCurrently on episode 22 of Trigun
NBIceman
08/16/20 9:29:20 PM
#5
Wolfwood is such a fantastic character.

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TopicB8's Greatest Wrestlers Ever Ranking Top 10
NBIceman
08/15/20 8:56:17 PM
#52
The hardest part of this entire project was trying to decide on which matches I should list for Okada, especially which one of the Tanahashi matches.

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TopicHas anyone checked out Infinity Train?
NBIceman
08/14/20 2:31:31 PM
#6
Loved Season 1, haven't seen Season 2 yet.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 500: The Posting Business
NBIceman
08/13/20 10:00:10 PM
#450
For fucks sake, people, just put him on ignore.

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TopicMarble League topic
NBIceman
08/13/20 4:07:42 PM
#52
The absolute collapse of the Cat's Eyes has been something else...

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TopicFE3H fans, was Cindered Shadows worth it?
NBIceman
08/13/20 11:35:57 AM
#13
Many thanks, friends.

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TopicSo.... I bought a reverse blade sword.
NBIceman
08/12/20 11:22:03 PM
#4
A very good purchase, indeed it is.

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TopicB8 - pick my Pokemon Blue team
NBIceman
08/12/20 10:18:51 AM
#10
Rapidash

Actually, scratch that, I forgot Ponyta shows up too late in Blue for that to really be fun.

And I'm late anyway. >_>

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TopicWorst person with the first name, Day 2: Michael/Mike/Mikey
NBIceman
08/11/20 10:10:52 PM
#17
You might as well just change the series to be Worst Republican with the first name etc.

If Danny Masterson is losing on the first day I don't know if you're gonna get much variation.

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TopicFE3H fans, was Cindered Shadows worth it?
NBIceman
08/11/20 6:09:35 PM
#1
I'd ask on the actual game board but I trust the opinion of people here much more.

I played one route of the game and loved it. Getting the urge to do another run now and am kinda tempted by the DLC, but that $25 price tag seems a little hefty for what it is. Anybody have strong thoughts?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 500: The Posting Business
NBIceman
08/06/20 10:23:25 PM
#162
I continue to be baffled that we've got WWE, which just signs everyone; Impact, which is pretty much hanging its hat on the strength of its women these days; and AEW, which desperately needs female talent, especially young female talent with potential.

And none of them seem to have any interest in AQA, Hyan, or Alex Gracia, who are all just sitting around doing next to nothing in a promotion owned by BOOKER T of all people, so it's not like they don't have visibility.Two of them even worked that Impact/ROW joint show and Impact still didn't sign them. What am I missing with women's wrestling these days where you'd rather have Cameron than some twenty-somethings who are already good enough to be, at worst, among the upper tier of AEW's female workers. It's not even like they don't have marketable looks or anything. They're all attractive, they're athletic... They could be legitimate stars.

What are we doing here, wrestling companies?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 500: The Posting Business
NBIceman
08/06/20 10:00:00 PM
#154
re: the "Many women don't care about women's wrestling" thing, I can only assume that was a nod to the fact that a focus on women has historically not shown any movement in ratings for female fans at all.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 500: The Posting Business
NBIceman
08/06/20 8:34:54 PM
#125
Okay, the Brandi tweet may have been kinda silly, but this guy that capped it is an even bigger moron with that reply.

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TopicMarble League topic
NBIceman
08/06/20 3:19:43 PM
#35
I somehow knew from the very beginning that the Cat's Eyes success wouldn't last.

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TopicI'm going to do a blind 120% speedrun of Spyro 1 remake!
NBIceman
08/06/20 3:09:59 PM
#6
"Speedrun" literally just refers to trying to beat a game as quickly as possible. There's no minimum level of skill or game knowledge etc. required.

Blind speedruns, while kind of a weird term on their face, are definitely a thing. Don't get too caught up in the details, y'all.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 500: The Posting Business
NBIceman
08/05/20 3:14:52 PM
#44
I don't really think Brandi actually gets pro wrestling.

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TopicDan, Rose, Oro and Akira coming to Street Fighter V
NBIceman
08/05/20 1:26:50 PM
#12
My Remy dream will never die.

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