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| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 11:51:38 AM #96 | wpot posted... This is the modern world, where the internet exists and nationalism appears permanent. Populations who lose their representation do not go away but instead remain a permanent problem. Israel offered them their own country and they said no, so what you're saying is that Israel just has to accept its neighbour wants to kill them for the rest of time and let them, or invite them in to just kill them all in one go. It's a permanent problem only if you allow it. wpot posted... Have we learned nothing from the Vietnams, Afghanistans (USSR and US versions), Iraqs, etc etc? Might can't change what a population wants...or will seek in perpetuity. We should have learnt that the land is garbage and left it alone, but there was other politics involved that motivated them much more than the official goal. The only thing I'm learning is that some people will abuse absolutely anything to get their way and nobody has the balls to tell them to go fuck themselves for fear of an actually important country flexing on them. wpot posted... Using force to "crush" someone is a temporary feel-good measure in the big picture. It's not a solution, unless you're seeking "simple" regime change in favor of...whatever the population wants. What the population of Israel wants is for Palestine to fuck off. The appropriate regime change is hellfire raids across the strip to reduce enemy combatants to near nil. Here's a hot take: Palestine refuses offers of sovereign territory because they don't want to be held accountable for the war crimes and human rights violations they're guilty of in their attempt to destroy Israel. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 11:51:31 AM #95 | wpot posted... Palestine has no army, per se. It's "force" is integrated into it's population. You know what you're saying, don't you? Keep shooting missiles back until they stop attacking for good. If that ends up killing every single person there then every single person chose war over peace and so their death isn't all that sad. wpot posted... Ah, yes...pushing them out: that's always a good practical option. That seemed to work out pretty well for the world when it was Syrians. Or perhaps the world is correct to encourage Israel and the Palestinians to make a real attempt at a solution that ends the problem, not shifts it once again. Palestinians only want to attack Israel. If they're pushed out of the region then they're no longer able to keep attacking. The problem has been solved, it only causes a secondary issue dispersed across the entire world, which makes it easier to handle than leaving it to Israel alone. wpot posted... let's be honest, if the right wing in the US were pushed out of their homes, they would do anything possible to regain them. Let's be honest, the right cries for second amendment rights but never uses it when percieved tyranny occurs. They wouldn't do a thing because most people don't want war. Palestinians are born in war so it's normal for them, that doesn't make it okay though. wpot posted... Are you really going to try an argue there would be a difference? See above; people are defined by the times they were raised in. First world people barely know violence, let alone war, so they won't attack. wpot posted... "Might makes right", eh? If you're strong, you're reasonable if you do anything other than kill everyone. Again, that's not logic that leads to any productive ends. That's not what I'm saying. Israel specifically avoids starting conflict despite the means to win, yet Palestine choses to challenge them to a contest of strength. When they do this Israel is under no obligation to hold back, so anything less than glassing the whole strip is tolerance. They show tolerance to terrorists, they're more tolerant to this kind of BS than the US so they can definitely hold a strong moral stance. wpot posted... The big picture over all of this is that a choice for conflict and war (regardless of the background of the conflict) will always result in more conflict and war. That has never been true, particularly in modern times. Being merciful (or frugal), allowing the enemy combatant stay standing results in more conflict and war. A single night of fire to avoid a year of tit for tat artillery tennis. You must destroy the morale of your opponent by completely overwhelming them to gain a psychological victory. Half-arsed attempts just help justify a military industrial complex, it does nothing to win ground. All you achieve by going soft is give your opponent the impression they might be able to win if they push harder. Israel is pushing as hard as it can considering its situation. If it did a full-on terror campaign to kill Palestine's morale, it would be entirely undermined if the west withdrew support. They're in a ridiculous situation where they cannot remove a threat to their very existence without tanking decades of attacks because everyone else is obsessed with moral posturing. wpot posted... This isn't the middle ages where conflicts could be ended by wars and territorial gain. Villagers/the greater population largely didn't care who their overlord was back then They absolutely cared, more so than now. Who your Duke/Baron/Count was would determine how much money you'd be shaken down for, how much free labour you were expected to give and how fucked your wife was. Territory claims were a massive deal, but thankfully back then France couldn't tell your King not to take back land from a despotic count. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | What kind of watch do you use? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 3:37:55 AM #24 | I've been counting on my fingers since 2000. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | fellas, is it gay to like the way it feels to poop? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 3:05:47 AM #16 | OhhhJa posted... No if you like pooping then you're straight because you like the opposite of stuff going in Is it gay if you like anal, but only when the guy pulls back? Is squeezing dick and jizz out your ass gay? --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | it's crazy how much better of an experience ios is over android |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 3:04:34 AM #51 | helIy posted... has your android phone from even 2 years ago gotten ANY updates? They're available from Google themselves, the manufacturer just doesn't offer it with modified UI automatically forever. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 2:59:35 AM #91 | wpot posted... ...there it is: "we didn't kill you; you should be grateful". That mindset only leads to one end. Peace. Either Palestine accepts the territory it has or it's wiped out and there's no opposing force left. wpot posted... Your fantasy ends with Israel taking control over the remaining Palestinians territory. Even if that somehow occurred...THEN what? Israel would be directly governing a group of people larger than them who want nothing to do with them and denying them representation. How would that be stable (or desirable) in the long term? Do they think they can turn them into Israelis like themselves? Do they plan to kill them all? I really don't understand the mindset of people who think that conflicts like this can be "won" or ended with some sort of territorial take over. Displace them. Just as the world accepted millions of Syrian refugees, it can accept Palestinian ones. I'd rather they just kept their land and tried peace but it doesn't look like Palestine is that forward thinking. wpot posted... There is no end to the history that could get brought up here. The paradox that baffles me is that the people who criticize the Palestinians most strongly (I hate to put it in these terms, but yes: far right conservatives) are also the same people who would never in a million years accept a different group of people displacing them from their home in the way the Israelis did. They would act in exactly the same way as the Palestinians are should their roles somehow be reversed. I wouldn't attack a force far stronger than my own, I wouldn't attack civilians and I wouldn't use my friends and family as fodder. There's no means to regain what is lost, but there is means to gain peace and start rebuilding. Palestine has no option more productive than accepting their lot in life, resistance is only causing trouble for those who have to live through the suffering. Israel does not have to tolerate abuse from anybody as it has the strength to enforce its claims. Despite this superior strength they don't abuse their power to claim the entire region, they're being reasonable by not crushing their opponents who threaten their lives and land and so the rest of the world has no beef with Israel. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Trump wants to cancel the election |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 2:28:16 AM #53 | streamofthesky posted... I'll do you one better: Lol that's so disingenuous. If he wants to delay the elections because it's dangerous, inherently that means he wants it done when it's not dangerous and mail-in adds the risk of corruption which is entirely unnecessary if the vote can just be delayed as he wants. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Coronavirus Vacccine. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 2:25:42 AM #20 | Dangerous vaccine now pls. People who need it get a chance at life and there's nothing stopping better vaccines coming along later. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 2:23:15 AM #89 | wpot posted... Ummm...no, they do not. They are not sovereign.. They were offered that, if they stop warring then it's an option? wpot posted... they live in a rump state within Israel that has no natural resources and a quasi-government. They aren't owed resources lol They're allowed to exist, that should be enough. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 2:09:15 AM #86 | THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
They're being retaliated against, not attacked. They lose land because they keep instigating territory wars and Israel isn't going to take the cost of war without some spoils in the end. wpot posted... I note you say "peace" and not "a country or real representation". That's true. They have a country and representation there, if they stop warring they get to keep it. wpot posted... we'll just keep creep further and further into your land while otherwise continuing the status quo. That happens due to war, not Israel moving the border in peace time like Russia. wpot posted... It's possible that the Palestinians could choose to be the 'adult in the room' first by calming down in other scenarios, but they have no opportunity to do so with the current government. Palestine chooses to be represented by children, that's their problem. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Inspiration. Did anyone inspire you in your life? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 1:37:35 AM #16 | DirtBasedSoap posted...
Kinda, yeah. People are people, they're ultimately flawed and different from you. Everybody is a victim of their circumstances and so following a person's footsteps is weird idealism. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/31/20 1:35:49 AM #82 | streamofthesky posted... Israel doesn't want to retake all of the Palestinian land. Then their population would be merged Lol no, they just don't take them in. They don't have to accept people displaced by war. Wanded posted... gaza*, palestine doesn't exist Gaza is a place, Palestine is the entity. Geography can't launch an attack, people do. Wanded posted... There are some more but these are the highlights, israel gained more land with each war so the muslims stopped attacking eventually I mean, no, they haven't. Turkey even openly asked the other muslim countries to join him in striking Israel again lol They would be attacking more frequently but Israel has western allies. wpot posted... This is the difference in our viewpoints. You have a black and white view of the world. Your view is Palestinians = unredeemably bad. There is truth to your criticisms of their actions. However, any simplistic view of a conflict that labels one group of people bad will lead to nothing but war and further conflict. That's not the case. They're not irredeemably bad, they're just consistently so. Every time they attack they get smashed, however if they choose to calm the fuck down, they get to have peace. wpot posted... If the Palestinians were granted their own country and somehow CONTINUED to attack Israel...well, maybe something close to your fantasy could happen then. I mean... Wanded posted... isreal repeatedly offered the palestinians a state of their own, in 5 different occasions trhoughtout history, in all of which the palestinians turned the offer down and immediately started attacking israel Israel made consessions, Palestine decided genocidal war is better, Israel defends their existence. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Inspiration. Did anyone inspire you in your life? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 6:41:03 PM #3 | No, because I do not live in a fucking movie lol --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 6:34:56 PM #76 | wpot posted... Israel is still choosing to direct fire into populated areas with predictable results. It's as if that's where they launch their attacks from. Palestinians use their own people as a shield to bomb Israel freely and Israel makes it very clear that if they want to play stupid games, they're going to win stupid prizes. wpot posted... Is the military value of those attacks worth it? I doubt it The toll of allowing them to believe they can use emotional manipulation to gain military control is much worse. wpot posted... the death toll for terrorist attacks versus Israeli army retaliation has been heavily weighted towards Palestinian deaths over the life of the conflict It's as though Palestine has been attacking them for decades. Really it's a surprise Israel hasn't completely evaporated Palestine, if not for the fact commiting genocide would lose them protection from the west and the muslim world would proceed to genocide them. Israel is in a tricky position that forces them to flex their muscles to keep their neighbours at bay. wpot posted... The "conflict" is already initiated and will not be resolved until the Palestinians have a permanent place in Israel (or in their own country). They don't want their own country, they rejected that, they want to conquer Israel. Given the choice of Palestine conquering Israel or Israel conquering Palestine, I prefer Israel winning. They don't really need much help there anyway as every time Palestine starts an assault, Israel takes a small bit of Palestinian land and due to the small nature of it, the west will ignore it. One day Israel will take back every inch of land from Palestine without ever having to be the aggressor and it will be hilarious. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Another Day, Another 'Karen' is caught using 'Racially Insensitive' Behavior... |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 3:35:59 PM #5 | Zeus posted...
He's a new user, cut him some slack. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Seth Rogen comes out as Anti-Israel. |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 2:15:53 PM #70 | wpot posted... Isreal is the entity who has the power in the relationship Which is why they don't initiate conflict. Palestine attacks with human shields and Israel punishes them for being completely inhumane. Palestine refuses to admit its military inferiority and surrender so needless suffering occurs. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 1:49:07 PM #35 | Aculo posted... who are you? DirtBasedSoap alt. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | cow milk is so good |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 5:15:47 AM #13 | DirtBasedSoap posted...
Almond milk is better, but I'd still rather whole. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | So there's like a new $1200 stimulus check? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 4:53:24 AM #71 | DrYuya posted... I always get curious what the opinion here is when someone says people on unemployment need to be looking for a job. If you're on employment, you're not on furlough and thus should be looking for employment. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Would you kiss the above user? |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 4:33:56 AM #4 | lolno --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 4:32:16 AM #23 | Ladies, chill. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 3:22:13 AM #14 | Along with "I tagged you x, looks about right." --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 3:12:03 AM #11 | wwinterj25 posted... What did you do with your valuable time off PotD? Oh cry for hours and hours, wailing for every minute away from my nirvana. JigsawTDC posted... there's users who remember me. Is there though? --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 3:04:15 AM #7 | Yeah, Corona's one thing, but one month no shitposting? That's the real challenge. Btw, apparently misgendering Blaire White is a major no-no lmao --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
| Topic | Guys <3 |
| Kyuubi4269 07/30/20 2:46:52 AM #1 | 1 month out and I get several alting accusations and a dedicated topic? You guys... <3 Love you too bbys. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. |
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