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Corrik7 posted...

So, it is on the protesters when you don't agree on the cause. It is on the state when you agree with the protesters cause? Basically right?

That's a convenient stance to take.

What if all these protest sites become literal epicenters and 5 more New York's happen. Does your stance change then?

I suppose it's shared blame but still overwhelmingly on the state in any situation for not providing adequate healthcare, leadership, and response.

I may personally have less empathy for people protesting for causes I don't agree with but that part is consistent. The anti-lockdown protestors are an egregious case because they are specifically saying the government should protect the citizens less and that's a fundamental disagreement about the entire scenario.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Yes, purely because of the pandemic

Its the greatest threat the world has faced since WW2

Alright cool, I don't know if I agree but I completely understand your viewpoint now.

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Also I guess another clarifying point is that if a ton of people die to COVID because of the protests, the blood is still on the hands of the state for how incompetently this whole thing has been handled for months.

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Jakyl25 posted...

And I want to make it clear that in any other circumstances I am 100% in support of nearly everything the protestors are doing, and I truly believe that this country needs to be overthrown and restarted by any means necessary for it to ever be a nation where justice exists

I'm glad to hear that! But in this specific situation you're supporting oppression by the police state as the lesser evil. The root of disagreement to me is on ideological priorities and not practical.

Like, if the true revolution you call for in this post came tomorrow, would you say to wait because of the pandemic?

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Jakyl25 posted...

On sheer numbers? No it doesnt

This angle is probably just too utilitarian for me but I don't think it would stop after shooting up one or two protests anyways. If the government can get away with that, they can get away with far worse.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Do you not think that the virus is going to kill more people in the next year directly because of these protests than the police will in general? Because it will

Jakyl, the President of the United States threatened to have the military start shooting dissidents. I think that beats the virus, and I honestly think that tweet was the breaking point for a lot of these protests that started last night.

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Democratic leaders are denouncing the violence and not in tune with the minority of D voters who accept it, so why would that affect who anyone votes for? Unless they're just looking for any excuse to vote R.

Like not even the leftmost Dems like AOC and Omar (or even Bernie) are out here going "hahaha yeah burn it down" and are mainly talking policy so what does it matter what the internet shitpost squad is saying?

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Corrik7 posted...

Hopefully you all aren't cheering on that assault either.

We are

Also the cop started it

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Yeah straight-up fascism is more of an existential threat than the pandemic. Not a hard call tbqh

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Grimlyn posted...

https://twitter.com/NedWhat/status/1266515656037588992

Alright 2020 is too wild

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Have we considered that Trump experiences causality backwards? It would explain a lot.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I think the larger message should be that the heads of state should be reflective of our society, and while we cannot control who is picked for the presidency, we can for the VP.

We literally can through voting but democracy doesn't always work for equality and when it fails that's where appointed positions (and semi-appointed positions like VP) can fill gaps

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Jakyl25 posted...

Quotas are a pandering, demeaning way to make social progress

Yes its better than NOTHING. But the point is to create equal opportunities

I don't think anyone is acting like it's sufficient. I think it's viewed as a bare minimum effort necessary. If people are holding it up to prove that sexism is over the yes, it's missing the point.

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Jakyl25 posted...

The whole idea of the VP must be a woman is still so colossally idiotic and missing the point

What point is it missing?

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FFDragon posted...

Trump has made it REAL hard not to vote for Biden the last few days.

But if he picks Warren (or Harris) for VP I might just vomit while voting for that ticket.

In what reality do you live in where either of those two are even remotely as bad as Biden to make them your line in the sand?

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damn that's some bait

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wait I thought your argument is that the protestors should threaten white supremacists instead of their local community but now you say it's to do nothing? Weird.

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Honestly surprised but I hope the money keeps flowing in to let Kojima do his bullshit

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

They need to be really careful about this. Trump is extraordinarily petty and the platform vs publisher liability differences could open them up to extreme litigation. Red Sox probably knows better, but if they're treated like a publisher, they become responsible for ALL the illegal shit that is posted on there by anyone.

Good

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Corrik7 posted...

I think it's a tad hypocritical to consider him a measured evil person and incompetent at the same time. He is one of the other. He is deliberately evil or he is incompetent.

why are these mutually exclusive

Evil can be stupid!

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There are texts? I kept seeing people saying dude is a cop but honestly I never saw anything explaining how it was surely a cop and not some civilian weirdo with a gas mask and umbrella.

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I assume with that name you're either playing a male roegadyn or a lallafel

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Also the headline has already been clarified


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Jakyl25 posted...

Well okay lets think about this semantically

It wasnt a CRIME when it was state-sanctioned, right?

If we want to be extremely pedantic, it can be argued that the current incarnation of the nation of Germany only starts from the fall of the Berlin Wall

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Jakyl25 posted...

And I think thats valid. No public official using their account in an official capacity for making statements from their office should be able to block anyone

If they simply mute someone so that the official can not see their messages but the muted person can still see their "official statements" is that okay?

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Well that proposed solution TMS mention also doesn't match what is on the card, which explicitly says you may cast it from outside the game. So you are still deleting the mechanic because moving from your sideboard to hand is not casting.

I like reducing the amount of cards you start with, though I'm not sure that actually addresses the power level of the mechanic. The card advantage is mitigated a bit but the consistency that enables decks is still there.

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Free gold in the Arena store again today

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can't believe that LMS has been radicalized entirely via pop culture

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remember the 90s?

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Let's be real, if Kojima's hack levels were at 0% the MGS games would not be as good as they are

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iiicon posted...

so this is weird because what you are describing doesn't exist. kotaku did a podcast about death stranding but neither heather nor tim were on it. heather and tim did talk about the game on video but it was before they had ever finished the game. heather also talked about her feelings about the game after she finished it, but for waypoint and not kotaku. i guess it's pretty easy to get confused considering how many people covered it in a short time span, now that i think about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYlDQbHJ_ms

is this not what I'm describing? they had both finished the game at this point

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XIII_rocks posted...

Whatever, sorry, rambling thoughts. I'm frustrated in a way because I don't feel able to simply dismiss it as a bad game, because it isn't(?), but I also can't call it one of my favourites either.

Yeah I agree. It's a complicated game. I like it a lot, but there's a lot to criticize and it's both brilliant and so, so stupid in ways that are both bad and good. Sometimes simultaneously. Like, I'm very glad "Princess Beach" exists as a real line of dialogue. But holy shit.

I think this is a common reaction, though. I remember the topic being full of takes like this. And Kotaku published two absolutely glowing reviews (one by Tim Rogers!) and then both reviewers turned around and did an hour-long podcast that was just both of them dumping on every single thing they hated about the game.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

The really important argument should be about UBIs and stimulus, because staying closed without it is literally forcing people to choose MAYBE catching the virus or DEFINITELY falling behind on their bills.

Everything else is just a stats comparison between wildly different states that cause everyone to draw different and totally impotent conclusions.

Yeah but even that isn't an interesting argument because the need for more UBI/stimulus has been apparent for weeks and the government hasn't moved on it. There's nothing to discuss.

All we can do is watch numbers go up

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HeroicCrono posted...

The problem with retrospective modeling is you can always find one that fits the data after the fact. If I make 100 models, I'll probably get one that comes close to the data after the fact. It is not the same as predicting it beforehand, because no one will take me seriously if I present 100 models and then brag that one of them was right. But with retrospective modeling, you can just not publish the models that were wrong and it looks like you "predicted" things.

As an Econ major I'm well aware of this problem which absolutely plagues the field. The hard sciences generally give very little credibility to retrospective modeling but in Econ we have no choice as it's hard to design macroeconomic experiments due to the scale and number of variables.

I mean, they most likely did this but they aren't trying to say "look how right we were!"

They're using the model to predict future cases, then verifying the accuracy of their model of choice by applying it to old data to make sure it actually lines up with real data. More accurately, they probably did that in the other order and simply selected the most accurate model to use going forward like you say.

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Corrik7 posted...

It's theory. Just like the theory modeling on predicted deaths. The reason why it is likely not very accurate though is because it assumes things. In general, since we never had overwhelmed hospitals systems. Whoever has died would have died eventually. Just may have taken longer to get there.

You can actually test these predictive models by applying them to data from a few weeks ago and seeing how closely they match the actual data today. They're accurate to a significant degree. The one I'm specifically talking about was 90% accurate which is very good.

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I work at a medical university that has been doing data modeling just for the cases in the metroplex. As far as I can tell, their model is very accurate now. While they didn't retroactively model what it would look like if they shut down earlier, they could model what the case numbers would look like if we had shut down any later than we did. And the numbers for one and two week delayed are absolutely ridiculously larger. Delaying 1 week is 4x the amount of cases. Delaying 2 weeks is 18x higher.

And this is in an area that did not have an early spike, mind you. It absolutely stands to reason that if the places hit hardest had shut down even a little bit sooner it would have made an enormous difference.

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You guys aren't really contradicting each other. It's both true that opening a bunch of places is going to cause people to swarm to them and overcrowd them AND that these reopened parks and businesses aren't following the guidelines that were deemed "safe" to open in the first place.

It's really obvious with restaurants. They're only supposed to be at 25%/50% capacity but popular ones are PACKED because it's nearly unenforceable, there's no shortage of selfish consumers excited to go now that it's open, and restaurants have no financial incentive to enforce social distancing because they aren't profitable at low capacities.

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TheRock1525 posted...

how do i get this i need this can i get this without doing any work

nope you have to go through the base game and three expansions for it

also! it's unisex! male characters can also dress up as 2B

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Hm I wonder if the free starter month promotion is gonna last long enough for the overhauled ARR to hit in 5.3.

You would think they would want to intentionally time it so the new players skip all those fetch quests they're about to delete!

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TheRock1525 posted...

also how do i dress up like lightning

gotta pay square-enix $15 for cosplay DLC

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You should typically just take it one fight at a time. But I haven't gone back and tried to do full clears of old savage fights I missed. Do people really unsync whole tiers at a time now? If it's easy enough to do that now it probably doesn't matter much if you forget a mechanic or two in the process.

Also you should be watching guides in advance of even joining parties and you can probably stick to the less detailed ones like MTQCapture or whatever now that the fights aren't current

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Peace___Frog posted...

I've mostly only followed standard since I started with Guilds. What's the competitive impact of these kinds of sets?

None of these are going to be standard-legal btw. If you play Arena, Jumpstart (which has some new cards legal in Eternal formats) will be legal in Historic.

I do agree that wizards puts out a ridiculous amount of product these days. I just found out about Jumpstart about a week before they announced Double Masters. Reprints are good but I wish they'd concentrate them into fewer sets instead of spreading them into so many limited run ones. We're at two Masters sets per year, two Commander sets per year, I don't even know how many promo art and random supplementary sets per year...

I guess it's moot to me because I don't see myself getting back into paper modern anytime soon what with the pandemic, the companion meta, and the still outrageous price of enemy fetchlands and other staple lands

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I'm waiting for all the DLC to be out but I was totally fine with the ending, knowing it was setting up for more. Also everything past the fake credit roll is fire so the ending sequence is great.

I do agree that the game could stand to be a bit weirder. There's some cool and tippy stuff but not a lot of the truly off-the-wall weirdness that SCP gets into sometimes. Still liked it a lot, the writing and characters are extremely up my alley and once you're fully tricked out the combat is great.

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Ramona ending is perfect because both of them are toxic as hell and the entire point of the series is them working through their baggage so they can accept themselves. I don't see anyone else coming to a satisfying mutual understanding with Scott so it's either Ramona or nobody.

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yep doing fine no problems with reopening here

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FFDragon posted...

So I gave up on OG Homestuck a little while from the end, last thing I really remember is John going back into old panels and messing with the timeline. Is it worth finishing?

There's plenty of bright spots past that I found cool reading serially but honestly the ending is so anticlimactic that it's unlikely to feel like a good investment of your time unless you are just really curious as to how it turned out.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Won't lie, knew about this and it's still a huge turnaway for me. JohnVris was extremely strong for me. I've listened to Remem8er Me for hours.

I was also on this ship but how did you hold on to any hope for this at all when the comic repeatedly went out of its way to kill it dead

THAT SAID, as a dirty JohnVris shipper, the Johnrezi content was very good and I have converted now

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Hbthebattle posted...

Yiffy isn't played humorously at all though, so it's not actually funny.

sorry but "Yiffany Longstocking" is the pinnacle of humor

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Also I have not yet read the epilogues. I had the physical copies preordered but cancelled after I was told they sucked, but now it sounds like some people are really into HS2 but the books are required.

Also yes there is a recap going into HS2 but you can just read it online for free. I am a weirdo who liked the epilogues but I wouldn't drop money on them.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Is this the kind of thing where everything sounds absolutely horribly awful on paper and in summary, but works out fine in execution?

First of all, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the events of the Epilogues or not, but oh boy. If you aren't, this is actually a reconstruction by comparison.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Because I don't know how Jade cucks Kanaya by knocking up Rose with her dog dong can be turned around to a good idea.

Well, it's kind of innately hilarious and that's why it works. If you think this is bad, the immediate Patreon bonus update right after this is Dirk finding out about the Yiffy subplot and contacting Hussie just to complain about how stupid he's making everything, and Hussie dumping on him for taking his joke so seriously.

It is 100% the most authentically Homestuck thing that's been written since the original comic ended

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Shazam and Aquaman stand as pure opposites to me, in that Shazam was by modern superhero movie standards a small, lower budget and unique fun time, while Aquaman was a bloated boring soulless generic nothing.

I would rather watch JL again than Aquaman because at least in JL there are 2 or 3 scenes that bring a smile to my face. Aquaman is just "keep waiting for Dafoe to show up on screen so me and my roomate can keep making Green Goblin jokes".

Unreal take to me, Aquaman is flashy pulpy nonsense with all the good and bad that comes with and JL is cookie cutter Snyder blandness.

like how the hell do you find Black Manta boring

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