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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:51:10 PM
#19
MoogleKupo141 posted...
uh you guys seeing whats happening on twitter

huge accounts (like Obama and Bill Gates) got hacked and are scramming people for bitcoin
Yeah, and anti-Semitism is trending under the #jews hashtag.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 311: Ye says Nay
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:45:08 PM
#15
Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik asked whats in the international food aisles at my local groceries

British stuff, Korean stuff, Mexican stuff, Indian stuff, Japanese stuff, Middle Eastern stuff, etc.

A little shelf space for the most popular items from each culture that lives around here
What does British stuff consist of?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:56:23 PM
#498
Jakyl25 posted...
Wow ok! Ive never lived somewhere without one but I guess you do?
I don't even know what you could fill a whole aisle with in such a section lol.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:53:56 PM
#496
xp1337 posted...
That doesn't make sense. Changing the name wouldn't shield him if something really bad came out.

It was 100% that FedEx, Nike, Amazon, etc were all de-listing merchandise costing $$$ or, in the case of FedEx, literally own the naming rights to their stadium. I know there was the whole "a group of ownership stakes collectively representing like 40% considering selling" too as you reference.
Trying to get a little good will in before shit hits the fan or keep the focus on the name instead of the other issue.

Amazon didn't delist merchandise until they said they were changing their name. FedEx doesn't sell merchandise and just asked them to look into it changing the name. Nike didn't delist anything until the name change was pretty much alluded to also.

I think you are overstating the pressure companies put on them.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:52:56 PM
#495
Jakyl25 posted...
How often are you shopping in the international foods aisle?
Um, what? Lol. If it is in my store it would be in the canned food aisle or I guess the taco kit section. No such thing as an international food aisle.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:46:29 PM
#492
Jakyl25 posted...
I find this hard to believe honestly
Maybe. Idk. Never noticed it before.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:08:19 PM
#485
They need to stop trying to make Goya a thing. Nobody is buying Goya that ain't already. I doubt my area even carries it.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:06:21 PM
#14
Yesmar_ posted...
Yeah, looking at that graph (assuming the scale is not really off between countries) whatever happened in Israel doesn't seem to be linked to schools, or if so there's something particularly off about how schools are opening there.
Large number of infected are kids and staff. I read something like 1400 kids and 600 staff members. Don't quote me on those numbers.

Oh 1335 and 691. Is in article itself.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:02:46 PM
#12
Not sure if my cousins wedding is cancelled or not due to new pa guidelines.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:58:26 PM
#483
MoogleKupo141 posted...
when you say minority owners which definition of that word are you using
Those who hold minority stakes.

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TopicFinal Fantasy VII Remake Spoiler Topic 2 (spoilers in this topic too)
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:55:30 PM
#286
Btw, this game would be so much better if it didn't force you to walk at points and cloud like just jumped across planks instead of walking slowly across them and crap. The unreal engine or whatever is dated for this game type.

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TopicFinal Fantasy VII Remake Spoiler Topic 2 (spoilers in this topic too)
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:34:53 PM
#284
Crane takes barely any time the second time thru when u don't have to get the materias.

Tifa's bar climbing in chapter 16 is arguably longer weirdly enough.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:22:09 PM
#479
https://nypost.com/2020/07/15/a-washington-bombshell-is-coming-and-its-not-about-redskins/

Seems Snyder agreeing to change the mascot name could have been an attempt to smokescreen from a bigger issue.

A bunch of minority owners were selling stakes last week also.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:14:21 PM
#500
Tange says Wear Your Damn Mask

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:10:02 PM
#497
SmartMuffin posted...
Not really. It'll also look even better long-term as they're definitely closer to herd immunity than anyone else is.
Their gdp predictions are just as low if not lower than surrounding lockdown countries.

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TopicDid you like the movie Jerry Maguire?
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:04:13 PM
#2
Yes. Why no poll.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:03:31 PM
#495
Well, Sweden's goal was to come out ahead in the long run, I believe. That said, their economy took just as much a hit as many lockdown countries did also.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 3:01:48 PM
#4
Also, Walmart requiring masks for all shoppers now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-15/walmart-to-require-all-u-s-customers-wear-masks-as-of-july-20

Expect to see the complaining to amplify on social media very soon


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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:58:15 PM
#3
https://www.wsj.com/articles/israelis-fear-schools-reopened-too-soon-as-covid-19-cases-climb-11594760001

Israel wondering if schools opening caused outbreaks. In a blow to those who think reopening schools is a good idea.

On the flip side, Belgium has criticized not reopening schools by saying abuse of children is rising dramatically.

Here is a graph of cases after reopening of schools for some countries.

https://i.imgur.com/K2YLGRn.png

Vertical lines are reopening dates.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:56:15 PM
#493
There has been some studies that say this virus may have been around as far as last year even early in the year, but it all seems rather speculative.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:50:54 PM
#2
A couple of people I have seen that tested positive recently are the Oklahoma governor, Russell Westbrook and Harrison Barnes, the Pac-12 commissioner, the Arizona Cardinals owner (I think).

We have yet to see anyone really famous succumb to the virus, which if someone did I think that the narrative to the every day person could change because it hits home moreso. However, famous people are getting the disease.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 10
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:47:17 PM
#1
Try to keep debate centered around the Coronavirus itself. Discuss testing, outbreaks, trends, safety regulations, vaccines, treatments, personal experiences with the disease, or so on.

This again is the counter I use.

https://youtu.be/NMre6IAAAiU

As you can see in it today, South Africa and India have been moving up quickly in cases, in addition to some of the usual players like Brazil and USA.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:41:12 PM
#491
Okee dokee, vcharon!

https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-07/uops-prf071320.php

I just applied for a vaccine trial also. Cool.

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 2:25:47 PM
#489
v_charon posted...
Europe's state is infinitely better than the US's.

Also I didn't bring up New Zealand, SMuffin did. This is why I don't like you, for the record.
Well, gee willikers! Sorry that you don't like someone because they ask you to hold yourself to higher standards than muffin! Lol

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 1:37:47 PM
#474
https://www.dailywire.com/news/florida-labs-found-significantly-inflating-positive-covid-testing-rate

Lol but why

v_charon posted...
Quite frankly, if people like you would stop denying this is a serious issue and do what the hell you're supposed to do like New Zealand, they wouldn't have to close international travel for very long.
Please stop comparing to island nations or places with strict borders / natural borders. It makes you less believable.

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TopicFinal Fantasy VII Remake Spoiler Topic 2 (spoilers in this topic too)
Corrik7
07/15/20 1:28:18 PM
#281
Suprak the Stud posted...
Essentially what you do is walk through those barriers that occasionally pop up. You walk sideways to them and then sprint through. Ive seen speed runs do it before.

i would doubt itd help on hard though. The completion trigger is at the end of the chapter, and you straight up skip that. I could be wrong though so good luck if you try it out! The skip itself looks pretty easy.

(I think its only for two chapters though so I dunno how much it would help)
The speedrun I saw the other day had them using item animations to animate through walls and shit to save time.

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TopicFinal Fantasy VII Remake Spoiler Topic 2 (spoilers in this topic too)
Corrik7
07/15/20 1:27:36 PM
#280
davidponte posted...
I keep wanting to come back to this for a hard mode playthrough and the platinum trophy, but some of the chapters kind of drag on a little too long. CH17 in particular before the boss rush at the end was just straight up a bad time for me gameplay wise, and I don't really want to have to deal with that again.

I've heard that the speedrun skips entire chapters completely, I wonder if that'd be possible to do in a regular run, or does the game not count it as beating a chapter for the hard trophy?
Skip all the cut scenes. It probably cuts the game basically in half. Depending on your dress situation, you might be able to skip side quests also.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 6:07:56 AM
#465
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Its really not that serious.

Especially if you have Corrik blocked, you saw...what? 3 posts of mine?
Gotta get their ignore points in, bud. That said, it's crazy to me how liberals talk about fascism then say comments like hers. What 33% of registered voters or like 48% of voters should be silenced because their views are different? Now that's some fascism lol.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:47:29 AM
#463
KamikazePotato posted...
lol

Well thanks for shitting up the topic for the 50th time and continuing to give right-wingers legitimacy by offering them a space where their worldviews can be legitimized as an alternative via debate

Hope that's worth the chuckles
Right-winger lol.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:21:52 AM
#457
TheRock1525 posted...
you know that whole argument of "trump could cure cancer and liberals would still hate him?"

this is the opposite taken to the umpteenth degree

you can just admit you're wrong here corrik instead of defending ivanka for no reason. she isn't going to sleep with you.
I literally already said I was wrong when he posted the article where Ivanka agreed to take an employee status to satisfy people who had concerns about her being not bound to ethics. That was already agreed upon literally the post after the article was posted because it completely makes the argument in which I am right about (the laws on what makes an employee and being paid or not) extraneous, since she has agreed to be bound as a federal employee.

Like, the argument regarding her being a federal employee was totally done there.

Then sheen had to act weird and act like him being accidentally right for the wrong reasons made his whole argument right (which it didn't. The facts remain the same).

Then had to make some weird ignoring posts. Don't get those.

Then it was done again! Then Tony decided to literally bring up an already agreed upon fact (she is a federal employee) to try and reargue it again. I can I only guess because he felt left out if he wants to act like not bandwagoning when the entire discussion was already settled. Lol.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:15:10 AM
#456
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
From your own damn link, dude.

She became an official employee.

Fucking period. The end.

Also this part:

Who? SEP? I can never tell if youre trolling or have some sort of pathological condition that you think the only reason anyone ever disagrees with you is because theyre all on the same team against you.

If you think SEP and I are in lockstep on everything, you either cant or dont read these fucking topics very well.
You are literally arguing fucking nothing right now. Why else would you be arguing nothing right now unless just trying to join the bandwagon? Like, duh?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:13:55 AM
#455
ChaosTonyV4 posted...


From your own damn link, dude.

She became an official employee.
No fucking shit. I said this in 3 different posts prior to you making this post and before you even chimed into this conversation. What the fuck are you even arguing at this point? Lmfao

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TopicCoronavirus Topic 9
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:06:56 AM
#438
https://i.redd.it/9e3qjp4o5wa51.jpg

Gonna be muffin once someone close to him gets it haha.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 5:02:40 AM
#452
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
No, no, no. Youre missing the point once again.

She didnt just voluntarily agree arbitrarily. She voluntarily agreed because legal experts specifically said that she couldnt have an official office and still be an informal advisor.

Her options were A) not be an official advisor or B) agree to the rules

Once she agreed to the rules she became an official employee, and thus is subject to the rules. Again, her pay is literally completely irrelevant, because part of becoming official was agreeing to the restrictions.
Incorrect, Tony.

I get you gotta try and echo your boy, but no. Just no.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Ivanka-becomes-unpaid-employee-11037958.php

Ivanka was joining the administration regardless and had her own office.

Legal experts wanted her to join as a federal employee. Aka paid employee. (Nepotism arguments would have been made but that was cleared and not disputed with Kushner's appointment). She said due to her unprecedented situation and to alleviate concerns she would take federal employee status while remaining unpaid to alleviate ethic concern violations.

The amount of arguing against the supreme court going on here and misreading going on to try and support extraneous arguments is silly.

Ivanka is a federal employee by her special arrangements and voluntary agreement. She is bound by ethics via her own choice. Thus, she violated ethics codes due to that (I am unsure how the public office would have worked if she didn't have this agreement. Because technically she would have not been an employee of the federal government and also the idea of public office is nebulously defined). However, that is moot by her agreement.

Without such an agreement, the supreme court laws clearly state she would not be considered an employee if it is an unpaid position and did not have clear considerations or retribution down the line to be expected).

It is clear as day. Why are you even arguing this extraneous stuff?


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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:41:49 AM
#448
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Literally what are you arguing for??? Youre wrong dude, she point blank said in 2017 shes an official employee subject to all the same rules. Her pay is totally irrelevant.
Correct. She did agree to something voluntarily and both sides agreed to it. It is not consistent with the law. I have already acknowledged she is an employee by her own special voluntary agreement.

An unpaid worker is however not an employee otherwise by law (unless benefits or considerations being compensated in return). Unless you knew about that special agreement prior, you should not be arguing otherwise. He didn't. Hence he was RFTWR. Your argument of a DoJ legal opinion is completely extraneous and doesn't matter. Nothing to do with law.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:38:41 AM
#446
HashtagSEP posted...
Can you read, Corrik?

Honest question I wont see the answer to since I gotta ignore you on this account now, too.
Imagine being so fragile with yourself that you knew you were wrong the entire time (same dude who started out defending Nick Cannon earlier today until I warned him why he shouldn't. ) And then when you end up being right for the wrong reasons you go to wanting a pat on the back for ignore listing. Lol. Wild.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:36:44 AM
#445
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Bro in that linked Justice Department OFFICIAL POSITION it explicitly states that advisors have to be informal and outside or be actual Federal employees.

There is no unpaid official employee position in regards to White House employees, and thus your Supreme Court ruling doesnt apply.

Quit reading about private sector rules and pay attention to the actual issue at hand.
That's a legal opinion of a justice department. Legal opinions of a justice department aren't laws. You over here arguing everything Barr announces an opinion on is law. Lol.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:35:45 AM
#443
HashtagSEP posted...
...Uh, read the article I posted again. Shes an unpaid employee NOW. She became an unpaid employee. Before that she wasnt anything. Her becoming an unpaid employee is what made her have to follow ethics regulations.

Might want to make sure you read things thoroughly next time.
Read the supreme court ruling above. Then read the rulings on unpaid federal interns arguing they should be considered employees and being told no.

It is really clear cut.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 310: Kanye Believe It?
Corrik7
07/15/20 4:31:53 AM
#441
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/ivanka-trump-federal-employee-unpaid-236657



Corrik...just stop embarrassing yourself.
There is like 4 supreme court rulings that all read exactly as I have stated. Educate yourself.

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Corrik7
07/15/20 3:54:59 AM
#438
StealThisSheen posted...
+She's an employee
Correct for the wrong reasons. You were unequivocally INCORRECT by law standards until you stumbled upon an article you googled 2 minutes prior that talked about a voluntary agreement to abide by rules and take an employee status when she didn't have to. Which, of course, I didn't know existed either or this would have never existed as an argument. But, for the record, you had zero idea this existed either and were arguing from a completely incorrect standpoint.

StealThisSheen posted...
+As an employee, she must follow the ethics regulations
Correct. She has to abide by ethics regulations due to voluntarily taking a status as an employee that she did not have to take for the job she was doing. Again. Right for the wrong reasons. She does not have to abide by employee ethics if she did not take that status. That precisely is what had people nervous about her taking the advisor role. Which, your own article showed.

StealThisSheen posted...
+Her being unpaid does not change her official status as an employee of the executive.
This is 100% incorrect as proven by supreme court ruling. Your own article said she took the status of an employee on only to assuage fears of her not having to abide by ethics, which she wouldn't have had to as an unpaid employee under supreme court rulings.

StealThisSheen posted...
+The NRLA doesn't apply to federal employees

The supreme court and the FLSA do apply to federal employees (some FLSA regulations for the executive branch are exempt such as pay standards, but employment existing or not does apply by supreme court ruling). The fact you are reading a NRLA case that is relying on 4 supreme court case rulings in regards to various degrees and the last one being under FLSA standards for what seems employment or not speaks to your own reading comprehension.

+The other ruling you were trying to cite (regarding the FLSA pay regulations) also doesn't apply to federal employees of the executive

The ruling on what deems an employee or not does.

Typical liberal living in an echo chamber. Surprising.

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07/15/20 3:37:32 AM
#432
StealThisSheen posted...
lmao you got so owned you're trying to make up anything you can to scrape up any bit of dignity you can find left

Unbelievable. I won this argument so hard with fact after fact after fact, and your arguments just splintered into thousands of pieces. This may have been the biggest debate win in history. It's such a huge fucking win I kinda can't believe it, myself.
Lmfao. I am not sure you are being serious right now. Everything you argued was absolutely wrong besides her being an employee by reasoning you didn't even realize existed until 2 minutes ago.

Lmfao. Not sure if serious. If that's your biggest win lololololol. You argued wrong employment status. You misread the legal jargon you posted and what it meant. You argued against supreme court rulings. And ended up being right due to a voluntary decision that in the article itself speaks to the concerns they had due to them understanding the laws better than yourself.

Hahahahahaha

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07/15/20 3:33:20 AM
#430
So, anyways. Yes, she is a federal employee and has to abide by ethics codes because she voluntarily chose to be a federal employee (likely with expected considerations or compensation down the line). She absolutely could have her role in the government as is and not been a federal employee.

You were arguing the whole time oblivious to the laws and the situation, and just happened to be correct because she volunteered to take a status she didn't have to.

Lol. And I am disingenuous! You even were arguing against supreme courts and shit.

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07/15/20 3:28:56 AM
#428
StealThisSheen posted...
It's not a special circumstance.

It's her agreeing to be an employee.

Because a federal employee is a federal employee, paid or not.
That is literally untrue and literally proven by me, and literally proven by your article you linked to.

She was "voluntarily" complying with all ethic rules and everyone was concerned if she didn't make that switch (which means she is probably being paid in a benefit or future consideration or such as we discussed before) she wouldn't have to abide by them while in her west wing office as an advisor because she wasn't an employee. Dude, you are arguing against your premise.

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07/15/20 3:25:18 AM
#426
StealThisSheen posted...
Literally from her own fucking mouth.

She PREVIOUSLY didn't have to abide by rules, but now she does.
Well, then it appears she agreed to a special circumstance. Which you were completely oblivious to the entire time you were arguing.

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07/15/20 3:23:25 AM
#425
StealThisSheen posted...
Show me where the link you posted talks about federal jobs. The NRLA is private sector.

She's an employee. They literally announced she's an employee when it happened.

Well, the FLSA applies to federal jobs also.

However, I did see this.

"The Department of Labors FLSA regulations do not apply to Federal employees of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government, but do apply to some specific organizations that many people think of as Federal Government agencies. These are: The Postal Service, Tennessee Valley Authority, the Postal Rate Commission, and the Library of Congress."

So, I will dig into it more.

Upon digging into it more, the FLSA regulations on pay and such wouldn't apply to federal employees of the executive branch. Whether an employee or not would not be affected to my knowledge.

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07/15/20 3:15:46 AM
#422
StealThisSheen posted...
Also, your link is about a National Labor Relations Board ruling. The NRLA is only over private sector jobs.
In Tony & Susan Alamo Foundation v. Secy of Labor, 471 U.S. 290 (1985), the Supreme Court applied an economic reality test to determine whether individuals were employees under the Fair Labor Standards Act. The individuals in this case were held to be employees because they expected to and did receive in-kind benefits for their services, but the Court explained that the FLSA excludes individuals who work without promise or expectation of compensation.

Dude, they used Supreme Court rulings to come to their answer. Like, you gonna do this all day?

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Corrik7
07/15/20 3:13:03 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
According to that ruling, you can't receive benefits, either, which she does. So, uh...
You can't be expected to receive benefits yes. Like, she can't work for free with the understanding that someone else will work for free for her down the road in return. It doesn't mean she can't have an office or ride on a plane. Unpaid staffers have their own desks or lockers or use of transportation in companies all the time. She can't be expecting to receive a benefit that has a monetary value down the line. Which, I mean, you could definitely argue she is expecting something, but likely as long as it is not agreed upon specifically it wouldn't infringe on whether she is an employee or not.

She, however, is not an employee.

The question is does she have public office. And, I have no idea because the term seems nowhere clearly defined.

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Corrik7
07/15/20 3:08:37 AM
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That said, I am super curious what "Special government Employee" means. Lol. Sounds like a m-f worker? Which is weird.

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Corrik7
07/15/20 3:04:06 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
No. You're wrong. I literally told you how to find out you're wrong.

You're mixing up a bunch of things.
I literally linked you to the supreme court ruling of what an employee is considered.

I think you are likely just misunderstanding the use there.

"Status as an employee is unaffected by pay or leave status or, in the case of a special Government employee, by the fact that the individual does not perform official duties on a given day."

Like this for example says even if the employee is on unpaid assignment of any sort (FMLA, suspension, etc) or leave. They are still an employee. Hence it says "status AS AN EMPLOYEE".

I am sure redsox can come in and tell you what that means in legal jargon is NOT what you think it means. She has no status as an employee affected by such things because she is not an employee by literal supreme court ruling on the subject because she is unpaid staff.

I think you want that to say something other than it says. I literally linked you the supreme court ruling, dude.

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Corrik7
07/15/20 2:52:53 AM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I linked you to the regulation in question

I showed you how to find the definition of "employee."

It has nothing to do with "misuse of government funds." The regulation says nothing about that. It literally just says a government employee cannot endorse a product like that.

It's fact that she's a government employee, regardless of pay.

Therefore, she cannot endorse a product like that.

Literally end of story.

It says position OR public office. Harping on the "public office" part is just you looking for reason to deny she did anything wrong.

I think that is incorrect.

https://corporate.findlaw.com/litigation-disputes/unpaid-staff-are-not-employees-under-the-nlra.html

So, again, now that we using Conway's recent example can rule out the first violation complaint (as we already did prior but it was insisted on going back because you think if your mailman tells you there is a sale on pork chops that he is committing an ethics violation somehow).

It comes down to does she hold public office. Which is again what I was interested in knowing if she does or not from a legal aspect.


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