Lurker > Corrik7

For the record, the game probably has a serial killer. Or some really weird roles left for scum.

We know that there was 2 redirects (at least) night 1. Nothing has flipped yet for that role.

So, they have a role that can redirect multiple people This has not happened since, so it is very possible this was a one shot power and possibly a jack power.

A Jack power of redirects and bombs... I mean, I guess a 2 shot redirect, 2 shot bombs is possible. I mean, it's unheard of role wise. I think a SK bomber is more likely.

And, if it's an every night SK (it would have to be), then a lot of the game is bombs right now. So we might not be as ahead as we think we are.

Scum would have to be on the bigger end if a SK. Which pretty much would confirm a 5-1-1. I would love to say that scum has to have some protection and point to Mzero, but they did with HB's role... a roleblock and Rolestop, plus the redirects.

Of course...

What we do know is that the SK, if it exists, wouldn't have a bomb on it. So, that eliminates Mzero and Plum as it.


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Crescent-Moon posted...

Oh that wasn't crying victim. I think you were deliberately downplaying me ever since my opening post to the game called you scum. I think you were being calculated.

Trust me when I say I don't think many people care what you have to say, Crescent. After you derailed the game with your out of game nonsense with DYL (that turned out to be the most ridiculous reasoning of all time), your cred as far as I am concerned is pretty shot.

I am spending more time weighing the fact you have huge massive walls of a posts to post the second the game goes up every time is you being scum who knows your gonna be alive each day or not.

It's in your favor though that Scare and Tange were obvious shots. So, I am giving you that credit so far. Just not so sure I remember that from you in other games you were town. I'm gonna let Death look for me on that when he wakes up.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

He's constantly attacking that one point in my argument because it goes against what I'd said yesterday.

Ding ding ding.


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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Actually, I am just weighing whether you are scum or not because if you are actually town it is gonna take my best not to tell you how I really think about your game so you don't cry victim more.

I been basically holding your hand all game if you are town or eviscerating the fuck out of your teammates. Your choice.


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Crescent-Moon posted...

I still believed Plum was scum until your claim forced him to be town if you are town.

You just said he was likely town before I claimed.

Aight. I'm going to sleep. Crescent is literally contradicting herself repeatedly.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

You claimed MZero was scum bomb or that someone put a bomb on MZero.

You claimed scum had a double redirector act night 1.

These are immutable facts. Plum did not fit either of those possible roles.

And both of those are facts.

It is also facts that Plum was tracked to Lea. Plum knew Lea was visited. Plum was already pretty likely town. This was made known to you repeatedly yesterday. And, you argued he was scum still.


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Crescent-Moon posted...

Basically though? I'm not letting BFZ happen again and I'm going to have you lynched even if I have to get myself killed to do it.

Cool. Anyways.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Plum was scanned as "wind chimes" by Red. Wind chimes fits motion detector perfectly, and he was tracked by Sultan to Lea on the night he replaced in. This adds up to a very likely town Plum.

You said this before I claimed anything. You are straight up caught lying.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

And really, Corrik's been demeaning everything I've done since I replaced into the game, so I'm not surprised he brushed me off and claimed something that makes even more sense for him to be scum.

How have I been demeaning to you?

You playing the victim complex game out of nowhere is really 0.o

Because you had a flimsy argument on Plum that I called flimsy?

Because you are either scum trying to mislynch me or town who is being bad and trying to mislynch me? Lol seriously?

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

But if plum doesnt give the right answer then maybe it wasnt worthless.

dot dot dot

Crescent-Moon posted...

By the way, given Corrik's claim today: If Corrik is town, Death or MZero must be the "bomb placer". Every other person in the game is cleared.

I am far more willing to believe those two are town than I am willing to believe Corrik is town.

Wrong.

YOU aren't.

Crescent-Moon posted...

(And there is no way we have only 4 scum in 20 with a hyper bomb, I refuse to believe this)

Duh.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Also the fact only 1 vanilla in damien is interesting

I think it points to him being town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

It's not a total flip on Plum. It's analyzing the data we know based on your claim.

Your claim essentially necessitates Plum is town.

You said Plum was town before I revealed he had a bomb on him.

You are straight up lying now.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

I will claim to make this lynch happen if it is necessary. This is far and above the best lynch. I think he is scum, and his flip will break the game regardless.

You should be claiming regardless. Probably 2 days ago to be honest.

uwnim posted...

When the game didn't go up at 9, I thought it got delayed until tomorrow. <_<

Same lol. I just happened to catch it up when I was on the shitter. lol

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So i was conflicted on who to track and i really should have went against my instincts and tracked corrik or death like i was thinking

If you didn't track Crescent or me... tsk tsk.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

With our current information: Occam's razor says these two things: Town is badly overpowered, and Corrik is scum. His claim also has a level of convenience that it allows him to be seen "acting", without posing any direct threat to scum. He was also the last person to claim an action yesterday, as well as one of the latest claims on day 2. I have the feeling town was meant to cannabilize it's own power, and it didn't. I think that's the "fun" that was supposed to happen in this game.

I was the last person to claim yesterday. I claimed with only 2 unclaimeds left on day 2... which didn't matter cuz obviously my role isn't a role that blends in.

I also pointed out arguments based on timing of claims on others. I have nothing to hide with my actions. It would be highly unlikely a scanner of some sort didn't go to me last night anyways. It doesn't matter.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Though Plum, I have a serious question I want to ask you. Do you think my argument on you was as weak as Corrik says, or do you think his Uwnim argument was garbage like I do (or both, I guess)? I think his case on Uwnim sucked.

They are literally the same exact arguments in reverse. I mentioned this repeatedly. Which is funny cuz you come into today calling Plum town after calling him scum over and over yesterday. lol

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Plum was scanned as "wind chimes" by Red. Wind chimes fits motion detector perfectly, and he was tracked by Sultan to Lea on the night he replaced in. This adds up to a very likely town Plum.

I literally said this multiple times yesterday and Crescent argued til she was blue in the face that Plum was scum. This is a total flip.

Crescent-Moon posted...

MZero is confirmed town unless the remaining layout is exactly one scum/one independent, or unless scum has two bombs on it. I see no reason to believe either. We can also still test his claim essentially for free if we want to.

Not confirmed town. Not in the slightest.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Sultan is confirmed town by Panthera and Tange.

Corrik being town would mean Uwnim (Sultan track), Plum (Red scan, Sultan track), and MZero (Only scum under very specific scenarios that are hard to believe) are town.

Uwnim and Plum are both likely town. Sultan is pretty likely town also.

Yes.

Death has very probable town equity with Panth being scum (and plum and uwnim both likely being town).

Crescent-Moon posted...

This is all we have left. If Corrik is not scum, then we have two scum in that group of three. Minor notes: Corrik disliked my reasons for town reading Damion. Death was the only other one to respond, and he was good with town reading Damion, too. Not enough people responded to this. Panthera's role means the "no motion" scans we have so far probably don't mean much if anything. (I have this weird gut feeling that Panthera's power was used on Lea night 2 and Scare ended up saving the day, but I guess we'll find that out later).

That 2 scum have to be in damion, dels, or DYL is of course laughably wrong.

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Oh and crescent is scum or just not good at this game. Didn't read her post but saw her vote.

See yinz tomorrow

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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I'm busy ATM but went to plum. There is a bomb.

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Remember that one time yinz asked me to do it and someone who never even really plays here swoops in and was like nope I am gonna do it. Lol

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The leaked document for reopening America supposed to be gone over tomorrow looks very basic.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Oh and those secret bosses or whatever you fight were some major bullshit.

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https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1250547609607036929

Is this guy correct that such a move would be legal?

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Gamestop probably wouldn't have been forced to close if they hadn't basically given Wolf the middle finger when he order essential shutdowns.

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colliding posted...

Why are we still letting Moonroof post in coronavirus topics

He has chilled since his earlier nonsense.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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It's safe to say the peak day for deaths was not the 12th right?

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Don't forget to grab your free games today on PS4. From now til May 5th.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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PA just mandated masks for customers and employees for almost all jobs.

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turbopuns3 posted...

Kentucky has been getting positive press on a national level for a change, so naturally a mob of imbeciles showed up at the state capitol today in order to protest during the governor's daily address to the state.

Some people....

I just need Kentucky to stay good so that they can keep coal coming to my plant.

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SmartMuffin posted...

https://twitter.com/ThomasEWoods/status/1250526093691572228

United States has 13300 in serious or critical across the nation right now. I think the highest another nation had was 8k at their peak. Where New York got the 40k number for themself is very questionable. That likely was a panic request.


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SmartMuffin posted...

Not "some vague manner." We know precisely how they are fake - they are following their obvious incentive to classify any and all deaths as COVID deaths, whether that's firmly established or not.

And even if you believe all of the "current damage" sort of news, it still remains true that the current damage is about an order of magnitude less than what they told us it was going to be.

What do you believe is causing the massively abnormal amounts of deaths NYC is having right now that dwarfs the size of 9/11?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Do you still think Mnuchin should be fired, BTW?

Yes.

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red sox 777 posted...

I guess it depends on how intentionally sneaky these speed traps are. If Georgia is like that, I guess this wouldn't hold up so well there. But my main point is that alertness is a bigger deal than an extra 20 mph of speed.

I don't agree. I tend not to speed much. Sometimes it happens without realizing it. I might match speed of cars up to 5 over on long trips.

But the whole up and down speeding game you are talking about doesn't sound very safe.

Being alert is safe. Being alert of the hiding spots around you for when you could sneak in speeding doesn't seem like the best use of your alertness.

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I mean, it shouldn't have to be pointed out that he means, in addition to whatever else you have also.

He isn't saying it alone should be able to.

I mean, I can laugh at Conway saying some really dumb ass shit, but I think it's only fair if you guys judge comments based on context also.

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red sox 777 posted...

That just means you are not being alert enough. If you see a line of trees in which a police cruiser could be hiding, slow down. If you are coming up to the top of a hill and can't see over it, there could be a police car waiting right on the other side so slow down. If you are driving in a state you aren't familiar with, exercise extra caution. If you are being alert, you can avoid 99% of speed traps.

The entire stretch of highway for literally tens of miles is set up that way. Which, if you are doing that, you aren't speeding. If you are sitting there, worrying about where cops are and so on so you can slow and speed. You probably aren't paying as good of attention to the road as you think.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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You should usually be in the rightmost lane assuming not a turning lane ofc, unless you are making a pass or preparing for an exit/turn or it is marked for certain vehicles.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Just most cops I see when setting up speed traps are hiding their vehicles so that you can't see them generally until it is too late to stop. Hell in Georgia they had lines of trees in between cross over roads between highways where they would tuck in. If you are slowing down for that cop, you are hitting your brakes when you see them.

The person who speeds more is inherently unsafer. The person who doesn't pay attention is inherently unsafer than the person who does.

You are just arguing which is a degree of safer or not at that point.


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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Passing lane is not the speeding lane. Some states (mine) it is a fine if you are in the passing lane for non-passing reasons.

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Yes

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red sox 777 posted...

Yes, what creates danger is a differential between the general flow of traffic and individual cars. Also, what's dangerous is people not paying attention.

It's why speed traps are actually relatively fair in penalizing more dangerous drivers. Someone can speed a lot every day and never get a ticket because they are super alert and slow down when they see a police car. That person is safer than someone who speeds less and doesn't pay attention and gets pulled over for speeding.

... what

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Xbox Live User Name - Corrik
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Then you address that issue with jail time. They gave you an option to drive legally that addressed drunk driving.

Taking licenses from people causes social introverts to break the law, the poor to break the law, and those without public options.

It's a law that you can tell rich people who lived in cities made.

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GildedFool posted...

How is this different to... driving drunk? Which everyone apparently does anyway.

Well

1. Most systems now have cameras to snap pictures of who blows into them.
2. When it goes off a few minutes after you begin the vehicle for your sample while you are driving, you are going to fail if you don't have breath under the limit to blow into it.
3. When you fail that breathe sample while driving, it sends a signal straight to the probation officer to notify the police which also has a tracking device on your car for them to find you.

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red sox 777 posted...

Something seems off here. Court personnel told you that?

My charge I pled to was a M2. They marked it as a M1. M1's have higher penalties. They court charged me all the M2 penalties that I pled to, but PennDot refused to give me M2 penalties instead of M1s which was marked. It made my license suspension longer than it should have been.

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GildedFool posted...

I mean, as someone that doesn't own a car or need to, couldnt you just get someone else to blow in the thing for you?

If you wanted to violate your limited license and your probation and be in jail possibly, sure.

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StealThisSheen posted...

An ignition interlock device or breath alcohol ignition interlock device (IID or BAIID) is a breathalyzer for an individual's vehicle. It requires the driver to blow into a mouthpiece on the device before starting or continuing to operate the vehicle. If the resultant breath-alcohol concentration analyzed result is greater than the programmed blood alcohol concentration (which varies between countries), the device prevents the engine from being started. The interlock device is located inside the vehicle, near the drivers seat, and is directly connected to the engines ignition system

...?

That bold,italics, underlined part is pretty huge.

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Jakyl25 posted...

To be fair, he argued that HIS punishment was SPECIFICALLY too harsh based on the letter of the law

He got a punishment that the books said shouldnt be possible, according to him

That also happened. I was misgraded higher through a clerical error, which they told me I would need an attorney to fix. That was dumb.

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StealThisSheen posted...

No, but he has previously argued that the punishments are too harsh, even in the case of repeat offenders. And equating it to things like playing video games, or, yes, even driving normally, shows a distinct lack of care around the subject.

Yes, I think taking licenses from people is the wrong punishment for the crime. I support ignition interlocks for it because it addresses the issue. I think taking licenses leads people to break the law and drive without them.

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Jakyl25 posted...

I think so though I am still not entirely certain what this is? You have to blow below the legal limit before the car will start, every time?

Sure put that in every car; thats about as much of a hassle as a seatbelt

That's not all it is... lol

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Leafeon13N posted...

If you quit you better have an underlying medical condition or live with someone who does.

Otherwise, you better have enough money on hand to survive for at least a year.

I wouldn't recommend quitting just to quit, but this is likely false.


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FFDragon posted...

Is that the thing where you have to blow to start the car and is super easy to get around?

It's not super easy to get around. How do you think it is? And, yes, it is an interlock placed on the ignition.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Like am I the only person who treats regular driving as serious business?

Always buckle up, always keep multiple car distances away from other drivers as much as possible, be hyper aware of your surrounding vehicles and try to be mentally prepared for them to do literally ANYTHING at all times no matter how illogical, and react accordingly...

Driving IS A PRIVILEGE

I'd assume you are in the minority on that. I'd guess maybe less than 5% of drivers have their hands on the proper positions on the wheel or even 2 hands at all.

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Jakyl25 posted...

At some point before they go out and drink, they are consciously saying that they dont think they as drunk drivers are a risk to other peoples lives?

Absolutely. I have heard people brag about how they are better drunk drivers than drunk even.

When you are rationalizing your behavior, people tend to believe that premise.

"I have been drinking and driving for 40 years and never even been in an accident. Trust me... I'm fine."

The examples of it are endless.

People really believe these things. Just like people really believe they aren't harming anyone by breaking coronavirus guidelines.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Ok so how do we fix these people?

Some people are the same as the coronavirus people. They won't accept it until it affects them.

Some you might get with fear after punishment. Many people relapse / (I forget the word... recedivism I think). Some it might take until it actually ends up with an accident. Some will never get it. Some might get it the first time they felt scared by something regarding it.

Hard to say how everyone's minds work.

That's why I am a strong proponent of ignition interlocks and not license removals for drunk driving. Give a taste a first time. If they don't get it, remove the ability to do it without breaking the law under severe consequences.

I should have had my ability to drive without a breathalyzer taken for the rest of my life, imo. I think that would have been fair.

I would also argue that if we are serious about drunk driving, that we probably have a way to make that a safety feature in cars as well... but I think we get into the NIMBY regarding that as far as the populace's concern about drunk driving.

If you could eliminate drunk driving 100% by requiring all cars to have ignition interlocks, would you be okay with it eventhough you never drink?

I think people would overwhelming say no... even though it could eliminate it entirely.

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FFDragon posted...

If you drive drunk, you are literally in every sense of the word saying that.

Not in the mindset of the person doing it.

If you ask someone why they do it, and you refuse to accept this basic premise, then there is zero point even discussing it.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Corrik why are you defending drunk driving with this whataboutism

Like you compared playing video games and posting on B8 to drunk driving

Why

He asked why people do something. I explained why. He changed the thing he asked why about. I explained why for that also. He acted like just because he doesn't do a singular thing possibly that he doesn't also do other things that can cause similar results.

People who do it don't think they are going to hurt someone. Just like people who do other things that can hurt people don't think they are going to hurt someone.

Jakyl acts like people say... I am probably going to kill someone if I do X right now... fuck it let's do it!

Same with the Coronavirus, people who are breaking social distancing guidelines and such don't think they are going to kill someone by doing it.

It's the mindset.

I know many people who know that speeding could cause accidents. I don't know many people with the "self control" to do stop doing that thing because of that if they habitually do it.

You can't understand the issue if you refuse to understand the why.


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