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NPR says more than a million recovered world wide

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/01/849065983/more-than-1-million-people-have-recovered-from-covid-19-worldwide

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1267446348590182403

Here is a video in Minneapolis of a car handing out bricks to be thrown.

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Reposting a pic of neighbors from Wicker Park neighborhood in Chicago from the Chicago subreddit.
"12am Wicker Park post looting clean up crew. Went outside to roll some large planters (that were knocked over) out of the street and saw some like minded neighbors, so we all banded together and cleaned up nearly all the glass and debris on Milwaukee from North to Honore."


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https://www.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/gueisj/12am_wicker_park_post_looting_clean_up_crew_went/

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By someone who lives in Uptown Minneapolis:

So for those of you who are interested - I have no idea how national media is covering this - here is what is happening on the ground from my perspective. It is a long post.
All day yesterday people were out on the street helping businesses - EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS IN UPTOWN has boarded up their windows and locked down their stores. The 3rd Precinct, which burned down Thursday night, is on the east end of Lake Street. Uptown, where we live and the 5th Precinct police station is located, is three miles west on Lake Street. All of Lake Street was looted on Thursday night. On Friday EVERY BUSINESS on Lake Street and adjoining commercial districts, was boarded up.
Many spray painted murals on the plywood - let folks know they were a local or minority owned business. Essential businesses.
Last night was by far the worst night. Protests during the day were peaceful. There was an 8:00pm curfew. Everything changed when the sun went down. There are roving and highly organized bands of anti-government neo-nazi white men cruising the city, breaking off plywood, looting stores, and then setting fire to the buildings.
On the Northside, which is predominately African American, the situation was much the same. Local civic groups were trying to protect local businesses and homes. There were many fires.
The violence and destruction is NOT being driven by local people. The cars on the streets have either no license plates, or have out of state plates.
Here is a post from a neighbor, "Everybody! We need to get our heads around whats happening, Mpls and St Paul are being attacked by fascist accelerationist white crazies. Trying to divide & destroy us.
Accelerationism: the idea inspiring white supremacist killers around the world -Vox"
Expect these types to infiltrate all of the legitimate protests happening in other cities in America. We are fighting an enemy within.
These "accelerationists" burned down the 5th Police Precinct, our post office, and every pharmacy. The Wallgreens and CVS within a few blocks of our house are still burning this morning. The grocery stores were all hit. Every bank has been hit. Every liquor store, every gas station. They have guns and accelerants.
When the National Guard shows up, they disappear into the neighborhoods and have been setting fires. It is a violent game of arsonist wack-a-mole. There is no longer any fire fighting service available - overwhelmed. So neighbors are using garden hoses to put out the fires and save homes. Pictures neighbors are sharing - these are young white men, heavily armed.
According to authorities there are over 10,000 of these "accelerationists" in the city. St. Paul arrested over 50 people last night. ALL OF THEM were from out of state. The authorities are checking phones of the people they have arrested, doing contact tracing of sorts on these people. These people are connected to right wing militia style groups with a civil/race war fantasy. They are opportunistically using the legitimate, peaceful George Floyd protests as a cover to actualize their neo-nazi fever dream.
Gov. Walz just said, "If you know where these people are sleeping today, let us know and we will execute warrants. Allie and I were helping the owner of a commercial building up the street - a friend, and two of these guys came up to us. Wanted to know where the free food was being distributed. He gave them an address that was three blocks away. Had no idea what we were talking about - not from here.
Allie, the girls and I are fine and safe. Exhausted. Angry. We have not really slept in three days. Everyone in Minneapolis/St. Paul is the same.
So, what to do? Our neighborhood group is meeting at the park this afternoon. I think that they will organize our Neighborhood Watch to patrol, try to spot fires and get them out ASAP.
Major protests are planned for today. They want the other three police officers involved in George Floyd's murder arrested, they want the MN Attorney General, not the Hennepin County Attorney, to manage the case. They want the MPD disbanded and reformed with many alternative public safety and law enforcement strategies used. But the legitimate protests will end at 8:00 pm.
The Gov. and the mayor are calling in thousands more National Guard Troops. We already had more National Guard troops in the city than ever before. They are doing a good job but were overwhelmed last night by sheer numbers. Gov. Walz is the highest ranking soldier to have served in Congress and led the National Guard - he clearly sees this for what it is and will fight it. This is now a military operation by the State of Minnesota against alt-right, white nationalists and anarchists that have come into Minneapolis to use the protests against police brutality as cover for their death fantasy.
They are trying to force authorities to use deadly force and "accelerate" the violence.
It is dark friends.

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@ffmasterjose sucks both ways. I keep getting my orders cancelled. I am hoping the one near me does not get torched.

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Bad as the loss of Soho is Trump deserves more blame than de Blasio. Instead of wanting to dispatch armed forces under Trump's controls to urban areas, Trump should have dispatched units to block US highways where the federal government does have authority.

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I would say the independent. The county medical examiner is always overworked.

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I would like to see the fake bill traced. I do not look at every bill I get and then pay with. Maybe someone asked Can you give me 2 tens for a twenty?

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

For the first time ever, the Daily Cured for the world is above the Daily Cases

I hope this is true.

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Point that it is outdoors. Conversely, these people are moving fast meaning more droplets and any chanting ups the droplet count. I have wondered how many peaceful demonstrators are masked. The media is showing unmasked but I would prefer a head count. I am going to ask someone who was at Saturday's.

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It is not obvious to me either. I have talked to friends who say it is obvious that he does recognize the guy so I want some help here seeing it.

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credit Carlos Barria/Reuters for the pic

George Floyd and Derek Chauvin once worked overlapping security shifts
https://nypost.com/2020/05/29/george-floyd-and-derek-chauvin-once-worked-overlapping-shifts/

It is one thing to be hated by someone for who you are. It gets worse when you are hated because of what someone labels you with. The worst though is when someone knows you but hates you because of his/her issues.

Was there a personal motivation for the murder? Was there no more thought than squishing a bug? Help me out and spend 15 seconds voting.


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This kitty survived coronavirus
https://nypost.com/video/cat-with-coronavirus-makes-an-a-mew-zing-recovery/

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https://twitter.com/ChipMitchell1/status/1266718251125477381?s=20

(WBEZ is the Chicago NPR)
NursingHomes now account for more than 52% of Illinois coronavirus deaths, a WBEZ analysis of state data shows. Outside the seven-county Chicago-area, the figure is highest: 70%.

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We have not resolved large-scale social problems. People riot and feel good about themselves and nothing changes.

If riots resolved the problem, why is there a problem now?

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Regarding protests and riots and R naught. Here is what Abbott Labs says about its tests

Data shows reliable results with 99.6% specificity and 100% sensitivity for patients tested 14 days after symptoms began

which comes down to You can catch Covid-19 and test negative for 3 weeks. One week to show symptoms and 2 to show antibodies.

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Here is a good article https://tinyurl.com/yar4q7sq axios

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I was just watching video of the (Chicago) Loop Protest. Most of the Chicago cops are wearing face masks even though none of the protesters are. Points though to the protesters for stopping morons from provoking cops

I am shuddering at that crowd in my city without masks. Stocking up again on stuff here, I am. What is the R naught for someone in moving crowd like the one in the Loop protest? R30?

Congrats to Mayor Lightfoot (City of Chicago) for saying [COVID-19] isnt gone from Chicago and that they should wear masks while protesting.

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At least they went to Minneapolis. smh at Rioting in Portland Oregon

*guessing 80% of Portland rioters from out of state*

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd/index.html

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Mystery_man2 posted...

So how long until this pandemic get's a movie (or a tv series)? I give it about 5 years. The role of Donald Trump will be played by an actual monkey.

Something to look forward to.


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"US has no plan for developing a vaccine and then has no plan to fairly distribute it claims scientist fired from a biodefense agency in Department of Health and Human Services. " I do not think we posted this because we do not need an expert to tell us this. I am posting it now because a vaccine will not solve the problem if we do not distribute it fairly and it is not too late to start working on a plan to distribute the vaccine.

https://news.wttw.com/2020/05/14/virus-whistleblower-tells-lawmakers-us-lacks-vaccine-plan

still Dr. Rick Bright but earlier on stockpiling N95
https://theintercept.com/2020/05/07/coronavirus-whistleblower-hhs-n95-ppe/

and a follow up on the doc who was fighting for PPE and is now suing with the backing of ACLU
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/aclu-joins-ousted-doctor-ming-lin-in-lawsuit-against-bellingham-hospital/

Project on Government Oversight
https://www.pogo.org/investigation/2020/05/watchdog-examining-dozens-of-federal-coronavirus-whistleblower-cases/

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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

No better than China, fuck off US government.

If we start feeling solidarity for people around the world, something good will come of this.

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Coincidence, yeah. Here is the cdc link. It is table 2 which is down the page. Table 2 has data broken out by state

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Deaths are way high as well.

At the bottom of table 2 is a horizontal arrow which lets you shift the columns to see them all.

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Takuya Lee posted...

I agree with that. There is no way Illinois should be at phase 3 already. We in Nevada haven't even started phase 2 yet and were in a much better place case percentage wise.

RE Pritzker and quarantine orders. Someone who worked for the Illinois Department of Health told me that the Director of Health has constitutional power to declare emergency measures for disease control and that if Pritzker had asked his Director of Health to issue the order, there would be no issue of interpretation. (However, I think that there is always a biased judge willing to strike an order down no matter what).

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https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/illinois-coronavirus-deaths-top-5000-as-state-nears-phase-3-of-reopening/2278824/

Illinois is reopening. 6 Flags is reopening. I can see why everyone wants to reopen and the figures have stayed steady for 2 weeks but Mothers' Day and Memorial Day Weekend and Indiana, an open state is less than an hour from Chicago.

Whatever.

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DundiesAward posted...

CDC changes its 'confusing' guidelines on coronavirus and surfaces. The changed the wording from a couple days ago where they said it 'does not spread easily on surfaces'.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/health/2020/05/27/coronavirus-news-what-cdc-now-saying-covid-19-surfaces/5265410002/

https://twitter.com/ACLatAm/status/1265684213854097409

@DundiesAward TY for posting that CDC amended the does not spread easily.

As sad as Brazil is we still do not have current death figures for the USA. When I see the death rate being bad in Brazil because steps are not being taken to control the spread, I think that all of the places here: states like Florida, counties that are blowing it off: are having the same result as Brazil whether we get the figures or not.

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@Secretly I laughed so hard. I really do not.

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Why are the trolls back?

Guessing they want to crowd the bars, beaches and race tracks. Why are trolling this topic instead? Why are they here and bored when they spout all this wisdom of coronavirus is nothing special?

Let us see some pics of you out in crowds then if coronavirus is nothing special.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Social distancing isn't going to help that. That is what the lockdowns are for. You are not going to be killing yourself, you will be killing your older loved ones.

This is going to be so pathetic. The death of an older loved one is going to hit the irresponsible types harder because they will not know what hit them.

Coronavirus topic is now subtitled "Incalculable Loss"

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averagejoel posted...

none of the states are left-wing lol

lol

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ssjevot posted...

Most of those immigrants are younger and the majority of deaths in Sweden have been the elderly as shown in the earlier stats, especially those in nursing homes. If you were to allege a conspiracy it would be the plan is to wipe out the old who cost the government money, not immigrants who work the jobs the native population doesn't want to.

Nothing to be proud of either way.

NY Times sites links to this article https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/21/sweden-coronavirus-anti-lockdown-immigrants/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52704836


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Fuparulez posted...

The survival rate of the general population is 99.25% annually. In a given year, 0.75 out of every 100 Americans will pass away. The survival rate for Covid is... 99.5%. Almost everyone who dies of it had pre existing conditions, most commonly due to old age.

.....you're going to be fine.

I agree on the Don't Panic. Going forward though

#1 ... The data is not all in.
#2 ... If only twice as many people die before we can control this, this is not being fine.
#3 ... I do not want to be part of a living experiment and I do not want people I love to be part of a living experiment.
#4 ... Not only do I love some old people or some people with pre-existing conditions, You do too.

I am telling the truth here: If it takes 5 years out of my life to save my loved one or to save your loved one, so be it.

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You know what is really crazy? There is no info line for public health personnel comparable to these topics.

I have a family member in public health and I mentioned the covid cases that do not know they are sick, silent hypoxia. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html

This was news. It's crazy.

CDC is not doing its job as well as these topics.

@DoctorVader

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umax555 posted...

I think you're misunderstanding what those articles are about. It has nothing to do with testing people, they're trying to develop an antibody-based treatment.

I know what the articles are about. The caution I gave is not in the articles!!!

OK?

@umax555 * * * The caution is based on previous info given in these topics via links to the info and common sense.

Previous articles have observed that some recovered cases have a low antibody count.

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The concern is that recovering via neutral antibodies means that there will not be covid 19 specific antibodies.

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The most common test for covid-19 looks for covid specific antibodies and it will not detect covid cases if that person is producing neutral antibodies

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I am posting more links about neutral antibodies because more recent articles are less technical. Neutral antibodies are not entirely good news: there can be no covid-19 specific present and the common test will fail. Moreover, there is the indication that the person will not have immunity.

https://www.genengnews.com/news/coronavirus-neutralizing-human-antibody-discovered/

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/research/battling-covid-19-neutralizing-antibodies

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/06/details-of-a-new-anti-coronovirus-neutralizing-antibody

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-16256-y

previously posted
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047365v2

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LameFAQs posted...

My swim club is opening next week and Im debating whether or not cancel my membership this season. They said theyre having new rules in place to be safe... but you cant wear masks in the pool. I also live in a predominantly red town, so Id imagine the older people at the pool wont adhere to social distancing rules.

Guessing that pool will be so laden with chlorine that it will be chemically dangerous.

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Sweden has ghettos, People of foreign [mostly Somalia, Iraq, Syria] ancestry and migrants. Was the plan to wipe them out? The Swedish health authorities did not translate the instructions and only noticed after the fact that these neighborhoods have inadequate health facilities.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/15/world/europe/sweden-coronavirus-deaths.html

Let me point out that the USA coronavirus percentage with Covid-19 rate in well-off urban areas is way higher than the official figures because of the residents who fled,

If 500 people live on your street and 100 of them fly off to Iceland, when 20 of the remaining residents have confirmed cases it is not

*** 4% it is 5%


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DundiesAward posted...

Union says UPS distribution center in Tucson has COVID-19 outbreak, calls for temporary closure
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-breaking/2020/05/23/union-tucson-ups-center-coronavirus-outbreak-closure/5241574002/

Covid-19 patients are no longer infectious after 11 days of getting sick even though some may still test positive
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-24/covid-19-patients-not-infectious-after-11-days-singapore-study

Quote from Bloomberg article "The paper was based on a study of 73 patents in the city-state."

It is good news but lets have more data.

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There are neutralizing antibodies. Take this with due skepticism because there needs to be moe investigation.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047365v2

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Theorectically, a virus could mutate fast enough so that a vaccine is not possible.

Coranavirus is thought to have mutated from a form in bats. The thought is that the virus could pass back and forth. There is a bat in Brazil that feeds on birds by sucking their blood but now is feeding on humans because the birds died off due to loss of habitat. Guessing mr. top secret speculates that vampire bats will get the human form mutate it and transfer back the mutation faster than vaccines can be produced. Also the bats might spread it.

https://www.sciencealert.com/these-brazilian-vampire-bats-have-started-feeding-on-humans-for-the-first-time

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umax555 posted...

Uh, you do realize seasons are opposite in the southern hemisphere...

See where the equator is? I do not think they are going to see winter.


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DoctorPiranha3 posted...

Is he trying to eradicate religion?

i wonder too.

Regarding CDC. Here is their blog article. And I think we all have to be careful not to touch our faces and in particular not touch eyes, nose or mouth.

And sombody define easily before you get all happy about this.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

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From CDC blog post "Information from the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic suggest that this virus is spreading more efficiently than influenza, but not as efficiently as measles, which is highly contagious."

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Note that CDC still says

• Wash your hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are not available, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol.
• Routinely clean and disinfect frequently touched surfaces.

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DundiesAward posted...

Brazil coronavirus: Our biggest problem is fake news. President Bolsonaro insists that Covid-19 is only a mild flu.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52739734

*the sky is falling *not being sarcastic either**

But experts suggest the figure could be more than three million.
I can categorically say that Brazil has become the most important epicentre for the spread of the Covid-19 virus in the world, Domingos Alves, a professor at the Ribeirao Preto Medical School told BBC News Brasil.

Annnnd we in the USA are going to lose our # one status, a true catastrophe.

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I figured out how Mr. Jair Bolsonaro did it. Brazil has a more centralized government than USA. Defiance to president had to be at the City level. There are many valid censures of our form of state rights but it is working in our favor at the moment.

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RIPVyseCity posted...

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/05/19/world/americas/19reuters-health-coronavirus-usa-border.html

My county made the New York Times!

Yay you. I live in Cook county so I am not jealous. I read this in the article which is just beyond the beyond

but Dr. Rafael Abril, president of the Mexicali College of Surgeons, told local news in April that half the IMSS hospital's doctors were infected with COVID-19, which could lead to staffing shortages.

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onedarksoul posted...

Mexico is absolutely being slammed. We might see a medium level resurgence of cases across the border states in the U.S. if this keeps going up.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/13/21255012/coronavirus-covid-19-mexico-death-count-cases

Undersecretary Lord talks about providing coronavirus relief to get DoD plants reopened. Maybe Obrador, AMLO, is waiting for this? Or maybe (surely I am wrong about this one) he decided if the gangs rule the countryside, then the gangs shall handle the pandemic.

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Epidemics in wild life is nothing new but it really resonates because of what people across the globe are facing. This is a disease that is rabbits only

https://wgntv.com/news/a-highly-contagious-virus-is-killing-rabbits-in-multiple-states/

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InfinityMonster posted...

That seems pretty risky. These ain't self contained universities. One is blocks from the hood and the other blocks from some of the hippest spots in the city. Mix everything in and it seems disastrous.

Also add in NYU Polytechnic out in downtown fucking Brooklyn.

I agree. They can set up a classroom so that students and faculty have the choice of in the flesh attendance or virtual attendance. If they think opening is ok, surely there is no reason to demand it. Students determined to cheat just pay for someone to attend their classes as well as take the tests.

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DundiesAward posted...

Florida Gov says move to quarantine New Yorkers helped prevent more deaths in Florida
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-florida-new-york-quarantine-saved-lives-desantis-20200518-4pvfeam6ujb5zcr7hkuuoeeek4-story.html

Notre Dame to begin fall semester on campus the week of Aug. 10
https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-to-begin-fall-semester-on-campus-the-week-of-aug-10/

108 million people are under lockdown in China after about 34 new cases of coronavirus
https://thehill.com/changing-america/resilience/natural-disasters/498277-millions-under-lockdown-in-china-after-cluster

Florida. Big joke about quarantining New Yorkers because I-95 was blockaded but it is not the only highway.

Notre Dame. They should let the faculty remote teach even if they let the students come to campus.

China. I like this Bloomberg article because the link given will allow adblocker. The graphics card on my PC is too senile to handle ads.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-18/over-100-million-in-china-s-northeast-thrown-back-under-lockdown

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Here is a New York Times op ed by Paul Krugman, a Marxist economist (on their staff I believe)

https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/PK_sample.html?action=click&module=nl-index-see-the-latest


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Dogs to sniff out covid 19

https://www.france24.com/en/20200518-training-dogs-to-sniff-out-covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/05/18/dogs-training-to-detect-coronavirus-infections-foster-lead-vpx.cnn
https://abc7news.com/dogs-coronavirus-can-sniff-covid-19-detect-covid-19-get/6190082/

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a general explanation of viruses and covid 19 classification

A really professional video. Great background music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQNuThIjGqg

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Hear posted...

Ive read conflicting studies, but is it possible warm weather/sun limits spread of infection after all? Outside of Texas, a lot of warm weather states have been open and no explosion in cases like weve seen in NYC and Italy.

No explosion??? We need to see the death count and compare it to the death count previous to the pandemic. My county, Cook County, only exploded when we began doing more (and better tests). Abbot Labs is in Northern Illinois and agreed to work with the Illinois governor on providing tests.

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State of Illinois Department of Health Director on Cook County. I know many of us have seen this video but I do not think the video has been posted. People in my neighborhood are now wearing masks even while walking the dog. The clowns outside my building are working on the face of the building and are oblivious.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/ezike-says-testing-played-role-as-cook-county-surpasses-queens-for-most-cases-in-us/2272658/

There is a fight to save lives and people are joining it. I am holding my breath and hoping hospitals can handle this.

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I have thought about Florida and Georgia. We need to know the death figures and need to compare them to death figures before covid. Doing this played a role in New York City doing more testing and I hope it will expose these governors.

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