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Solid Snake07 posted...

Lol, I dont have to use your approved vocabulary, but nice try Kim Jong.

"biological" and "cis" are not synonyms and they should not be used as such. sorry for expecting people to be precise in their language

But you keep trying to marginalize the majority.

that is a lie

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Solid Snake07 posted...

You know what I mean so cut the shit

if you mean "cis" you should probably just cut the bullshit and say "cis"

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Solid Snake07 posted...

No

As for the bathroom/changing room thing goes, that's really up to biological women and what they're comfortable with as far as im concerned. I think yiu should use whatever bathroom you're probably not going to cause a scene in personally

please enlighten me as to what you mean by "biological woman" here

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viewmaster_pi posted...

what a terrible analogy

it's like tc twisted my point in the worst, most dishonest way possible in order to turn it into something transphobic

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dj1200 posted...

Alright, I'll buy that. A tabby cat and a mountain lion are both cats.

you really like belittling trans people, don't you

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Zurkon posted...

Try cherry tomatoes with it. They mix really well with green peppers. Don't cut them or anything just simmer them whole in the sauce and their flavor gets a lot stronger. They're like balls full of warm flavorful fluids that just explodes in your mouth.

while I do love cherry tomatoes with pasta and everything, I advise against simmering them whole. I did that with a stir fry and burnt my mouth doing that

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Beveren_Rabbit posted...

You see people walking up to the bar and getting served fancy colorful cocktails, but there's no menu. You want to order a cocktail, but you're afraid they might not have the ingredients to make your drink or have no idea what you're talking about.

I like gin and kombucha a lot. gin and soda if they don't have kombucha

but honestly for the most part I prefer beer

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a few things come to mind:

-asking questions whose answers are irrelevant to the point being made. the first example that comes to mind is the topic where shockthemonkey was asking (paraphrasing here) "are LGBT+ palestinians better off under israeli occupation than they would be elsewhere in the middle east?"

-people who either have no reading comprehension or are pretending to have no reading comprehension.
there was a topic a couple days ago asking about "is this racism/colorism or just personal preference" in a scenario of someone talking about romantic partners, and a couple people (InhumaneRider and Fony) were being extremely dense, whether or not it was intentional

-people who are either incapable of thinking about systemic issues beyond the personal level, or pretend to be (for example, every single time "financial literacy" and "personal responsibility" are brought up)

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this is similar to the "black people being homophobic" topic from a couple days ago, and I have the same thing to say:

there is absolutely a problem with transphobia among gay men. until I see some sort of study which supports the idea, I will not believe that they (as a demographic) are more transphobic than the general population

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dj1200 posted...

Regardless of our personal opinions, there is not universal agreement on this so it is debatable.

lack of universal agreement doesn't mean it's debatable. there is a clear correct answer: trans women are women

that doesn't necessarily mean theyre the same as cis women, but there are plenty of cis women who aren't the same as other cis women. there's essentially an infinite amount of variance in both.

being "different" also does not mean that trans women are lacking in women-ness (whatever that means) compared to cis women

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Because apparently people are willing to pay it

that's not why university is so expensive

but you know that

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krazychao5 posted...

I think what squall is essentially getting to is the concept of a blue ocean strategy. It boils down to that there are opportunities to create new markets by doing something different from the competitors. By doing so, a new market is created and thus more revenue and wealth is generated. It can distort a market by making it enlarge or shrink, depending on the disruption.

While resources may be finite, how they are utilized can change the total resources available. Many times people think of wealth as a pizza, once it's ordered the size is constant and you can only distribute so much before it runs out. People do not think that you can enlarge the pizza and share more.

I don't care if this point is true or not. it's irrelevant. since resources are finite, wealth tied to them cannot be infinite, regardless of whether or not it can grow.

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Squall28 posted...

The way you can use resources can change. Take a computer for instance. A computer used to be much more resource intensive, worse as a product, and so expensive that most people can't afford it. Today, computers keep getting better and they're everywhere.

cool. the resources necessary to produce them are still not infinite

And I think it's funny you guys mentioned the poor countries got taken advantage of. Do you know why they got taken advantage of? Because they stagnated. They stopped increasing their wealth, their technology, and their ability to compete.

in order to be believable, a claim like this needs to be accompanied by about 20 pages of citations from academic sources and about 100 pages of explanations and arguments you created in order to reach that conclusion. it should also be presented in front of a jury of people knowledgeable in the subject area for questioning.

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Squall28 posted...

Yes they are because wealth is something that can be grown or shrunken down. The way you guys talk about it is as if it's like hey every country gets $100. Divide it as you see fit. You guys don't see it as how can we turn this $100 until $1000 or more. You see it as everybody gets a penny. End game.

not sure where you got that idea, but it certainly wasn't from reading any of the posts in here

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Squall28 posted...

Wealth is not a finite resource.

it is unless you're talking exclusively about numbers on a screen going up. wealth is based on control of resources, which are finite.

It's constantly grown.

it has to come from somewhere though

Do you think some of these people in these poor communist countries are better off than people in the US? Give me a break.

the reason some countries are poor in the first place is because other countries stole their wealth. which is also why some countries are rich.

The average person now enjoys a better life than the kings of old. More technology, more food options, more entertainment options, air conditioning, and much more. Society grows.

I don't particularly care if this is true or not; it doesn't contradict my point. the resources that wealth is based on are not infinite. therefore, wealth cannot be infinite.

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obviously the problem wasn't caused by any one person. the problem is the system thats allows people to hoard wealth like that. the system needs to be burned to the ground and replaced with one that doesn't allow that

that being said: there is a finite amount of resurces in the world, meaning there is a finite amount of wealth. People hoarding that wealth to such an extent are directly responsible for there being less wealth to go around.

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is this surprising to anyone?

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very carefully

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small local liberal arts school. probably not many people have heard of it

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I went to both

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelations:_Persona

Revelations: Persona[a] is a role-playing video game developed and published by Atlus. It is the first entry in the Persona series, itself a subseries of the Megami Tensei franchise, and the first role-playing entry in the series to be released in the west. Originally released for the PlayStation in 1996 in Japan and North America, the title was ported to Microsoft Windows in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_Crusaders

Stardust Crusaders (Japanese: , Hepburn: Sutdasuto Kuruseidsu) is the third story arc of the Japanese manga series JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, written and illustrated by Hirohiko Araki. It was serialized in Weekly Shnen Jump from 1989 to 1992

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Eh... I might start another Discord if you wanna join that >_>

sure. send me an invite

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get a trumpet or ukulele and hit me up for some lessons

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ZannoL posted...

Interesting read:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6922351_Homophobia_hypermasculinity_and_the_US_Black_Church

again: I do not find it hard to believe that there is a problem with homophobia in the black community.

I do find it much harder (in fact, impossible) to believe, without strong evidence supporting it, that the problem is more prevalent among the black community than among the general population.

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I will not believe that black people are more homophobic than the general population until I see some major large-scale study that says they are.

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congratulations on picking the five most common instruments that everyone hears all the time

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the main character in part 2 is a bit like if Adam West Batman had the body of a greek statue. the main character in part 3 is also built like a greek statue, and very clever, but less campy about it

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

So which Jedi did Grevious kill onscreen in the movies?

not in the movies. but that was also not part of your initial stipulation.

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Fony posted...

Lmfao, I don't think we'll be getting any answers.

forgot to switch accounts?

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The_Ivory_Man posted...

He and his clones are the only non force users to kill Jedi onscreen.

today I learned that Grievous was a force user

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I take issue with a few of the categories

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Fony posted...

I wonder why the people who make this argument never actually date black women. What's holding you back?

first of all: which argument?

second of all: [citation needed]

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Fony posted...

No force on earth will ever make people prefer people of a different race at the same rate as their own.

I don't know if that's true. I also don't care. it is irrelevant to the point

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InhumaneRaider posted...

That's exactly what you said.

point out where I said, or in any way suggested, that people chose (or even were capable of choosing) the features they are attracted to.

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Fony posted...

So are you racist then. since you're 95% most likely like other white men who don't date black women?

of course I'm racist. that's part of growing up in a racist society. I'm racist in a lot of ways that I don't realize. a major part of personal growth is unlearning, via conscious effort, harmful attitudes that you learned implicitly through your socialization

(also, for what it's worth, I have dated black women before, and I would do so again.)

If so, does racism in dating even matter?

it certainly matters to people of colour who are trying to have a romantic partner

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Fony posted...

All things being equal most black men prefer black women and most white men prefer white women. Is this wrong/racist? No. Would it change if society weren't as racist? No. In group preference is always the norm, you can point to the countries with the best racial equality on earth and dating preferences are the same along all cultural and racial lines.

ok, apparently I was a little too subtle with my jab.

this statement:

Even people with no racist biases have a preference in romantic partner.

is meaningless, because no people are completely without racist biases.

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InhumaneRaider posted...

This doesn't make sense. You can't control what you're attracted to, but preferences are still inherently racist. O.K, bub.

that is not what I said.

You can't help what you're attracted to same as sexual orientation.

I don't particularly care if that's true or not. factually, preferences are not the same as sexual orientation, and they should not be treated as such. your analogy is ineffective.

Lmfao, then what the fuck is racist to you? That rings pretty damn high on the racism scale.

I said it was racist, but that racism is not limited to that. i.e. that is not the only thing that is racist.

So are you ever going to say what preferences are racist?

no. that's irrelevant to the point that I'm making.

Or are you going to keep spouting this nonsense?

at this point, you either lack reading comprehension or are intentionally misrepresenting what I'm saying

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Fony posted...

Even people with no racist biases have a preference in romantic partner.

in mathematics and logic, this type of statement is called a "vacuous truth"

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Just like orientation, you don't choose what what features you're attracted to and which features you're not.

I never suggested that anyone chose which features they were attracted to.

but that also has no bearing on whether or not the preferences are racist

InhumaneRaider posted...

In that case, men who won't date other men, are homophobic.

preferences are not the same thing as sexual orientation.

InhumaneRaider posted...

I think it's racist to say, "all White or Black women are unattractive". That's just ignorant.

ok. but that isn't all that racism is

InhumaneRaider posted...

But having preferences, are not racist.

having a preference is not, in and of itself, racist. however, some specific preferences are informed by the societal system of racism, and reinforce some of its effects in day-to-day life. such preferences could accurately be called racist.

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InhumaneRaider posted...

That doesn't make it racist. You find attractive what you find attractive. There's Black guys who aren't attracted to dark-skinned girls. There's white girls who aren't attracted to white boys, that doesn't make them racist. That's just how they are.

there's no such thing as "just how they are." (at least, not in the way you seem to mean it)

people are raised in society. society is racist. that leads people to internalize racist ideas, including ideas of what beauty is

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miki_sauvester posted...

It is objectively preference.

averagejoel posted...

that doesn't mean it's not also racism

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InhumaneRaider posted...

How is it racist? I can see if you're like, "Hell no I won't date Black girls, I want my children to look like me."

Outside of that, people have preferences for everything body types, features, etc.

those preferences are informed by society

society is racist

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InhumaneRaider posted...

Preference, you can't really help who you're attracted to.

that doesn't mean it's not also racism

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Firewerx posted...

Do animals, e.g. cats and dogs, have regional accents?

I definitely remember reading something a couple years ago that suggested they did

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there's a couple good local donut places within reasonable walking distance of where I live. I usually have one every month or so

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LightningAce11 posted...

Why do they even exist? I've heard nothing but bad things about them.

if memory serves, they exist to keep black people out of white neighbourhoods

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berlyman101 posted...

I think it may have started with good intentions but it's clearly a net negative.

I thought it started with white people not wanting black people to move into their neighbourhood

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