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ssjevot posted...

Because it's pointless. You defend regimes like the USSR, PRC, and North Korea,

first of all, [citation needed]

no amount of whining about the US justifies that

framing my questions and criticism of the US as "whining" is disingenuous and inaccurate. please address it accurately

when there are plenty of countries that have the problems of neither.

you are missing the point so spectacularly here that it's probably intentional

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ssjevot posted...

I don't live in or care about the US situation. It's not relevant to the issues with every socialist country. And it's not an example of a successful welfare state capitalist country which is why I never mentioned it. You tell me what's great about the PRC, North Korea, etc. I'll let your attempted defense of those regimes speak for itself.

it's fine if you don't care about the US situation. but you didn't even attempt to answer my other question

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ssjevot posted...

Since welfare state capitalism like you see on Nordic countries addresses the concerns socialists claim to have about workers rights, inequality, etc.

the "workers rights" concerns are not addressable under capitalism, and addressing "inequality" is not actually a relevant part of socialist thought; reduced inequality is more a side effect of the economic system rather than an actual focus

whereas every socialist country is objectively a terrible place to live (which makes them either not true socialism, or secretly a good place to live depending on which group you ask), there is no reason to support socialism.

which issues that are present in "socialist countries" make them "objectively a terrible place to live"? are those issues not also present in the US?

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ButteryMales posted...

You think I own Merriam Webster?

nordic countries are not socialist. they are not "mixed" either -- they are capitalist with some social programs.

capitalism and socialism are fundamentally different economic systems. they are mutually exclusive

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Mareen posted...

Not that I can think of.

Do you think the US is the sole reason for the lack of success today?

it's certainly the biggest one

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Mareen posted...

Are there any currently socialist countries that are doing well?

are there any currently socialist countries that the largest military power in the world did not try to squash?

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

Broseph Stalin putting on a masterclass on arguing in bad faith ITT

basically everyone else in this topic too tbh

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this is like a funnier version of Monster By Mistake

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the red scare

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gender and orientation are two separate aspects

regardless: I let them describe their sexuality

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Hairistotle posted...

it's 10 x 3 not 9 x 3

i dont understand why youre writing it the way you are

to trick people into thinking that there's a missing dollar

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Hayame Zero posted...

It sounds silly, but they're probably pushing that after Gal Gadot's popularity blew up.

I definitely remember pictures of attractive israeli women in military gear being used as an advertisement of sorts

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Far left would be calling for communal living and absolute equality of all resources.

which leftists have called for that?

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your mother

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not sure if it's exactly the same thing, but it's definitely very similar to the Fallacy of Relative Privation

e.g. "you shouldn't point out problems in the US because there are countries where living conditions are worse"

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small brain: violating HR regulations on ageism by saying "OK boomer"
big brain: violating HR regulations on sexual identity discrimination by making fun of sapiosexuals
galaxy brain: violating HR regulations on racism by making fun of italians

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Pete has some paper-thin, vaguely left-wing-sounding rhetoric surrounding him. but it doesn't go beyond lip service. he is right-wing

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mrgoatthief posted...

have u been getting sick in the morning/dizzy spells? You might have to consult babynames.com

we haven't had sex yet, though we've talked about it a little bit. we might the next time we meet

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I went on a date last week. we kissed at the end and she bit my lip

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MelzezDoor posted...

"I feel so disgusting when I look in the mirror!"

*takes fabulous photo*

I suggest reading the part of her post where she says that she had (maybe still has) depression

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PIITB415 posted...

Honestly, I did not like that they changed the main character. At all. I know it's a different time but he was perfect.

it's not still Takeshi Kovacs?

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Chicken_Butt posted...

Tinder is for hookups, which is what attractive people do instead of masturbating. They aren't looking for relationships, they aren't looking to build foundations and find love, they just wanna frick. Even if they're not aware of all that, it's true.

So let me ask you this. When you're about to deed, do you look up average or okay looking people to deed to? Do you settle? Of course not. You want to see exactly what you like and how you like it.

It's the same for them. Tinder is to them what browsing porn is to you.

lol stop going to incel forums on the internet dude. live in the real world

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when he's right, he's right

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much more right-wing violence

several orders of magnitude more right-wing violence if you count systemic violence (homelessness, food scarcity, etc) and state-sanctioned violence (police, military, execution, etc)

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Gamerguymass posted...

I am actually liberal. By any metric I am so. Any of those where do you rate politically type tests I am always rated as left wing every single time. Yet according to this site I am an alt right racist homophobic mysogonistic transphobe.

liberals are generally not left-wing and political tests all have some identity politics bullshit questions that don't actually have a significant effect on your overall politics.

another issue is that a lot of people seem to think that social politics are separable from economic politics. they are not.

for example, a lot of people pay lip service to the queer community by saying they support "gay rights" or "gay marriage" while not supporting policy that would be disproportionately beneficial to them -- queer people are disproportionately low-income, so policies that benefit poor people (universal healthcare, education, housing, etc) also have a significant effect on the queer community.

which views do you have that you think are left-wing? which views do you have that have gotten you labeled as "an alt right racist homophobic mysogonistic transphobe"?

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NinjaBreakfast posted...

because acknowledging something exists makes you a passionate fan of that thing

he's used that exact same faulty logic against me numerous times. I suggest ignoring him -- he has nothing of value to say

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And then theres the matter of criminal liability. For many low-level crimes, prosecutors have to prove that a defendant should have known a crime was taking place. If a renter deals drugs out of her apartment, her landlord can be prosecuted. If you loan your friend your car and he commits a murder while driving it, you can be charged with murder, too. For executive-level crimes, however, the bar of criminal liability is set impossibly high: Prosecutors have to prove that defendants knew their actions were illegal and did them anyway. This myopic focus on intent means that white-collar trials often come down to the question of whether the defendant was the kind of person who would commit a criminal act.

fuck

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damn this just gets better the more I read

Even though auditing millionaires and billionaires is one of the most cost-effective government activities imaginablean independent report estimated in 2014 that it yielded up to $4,545 in recovered revenue per hour of staff timethe IRS investigated the returns of just 3 percent of American millionaires in 2017.

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The primary beneficiaries of this shift are American elites. Rich people generate mountains of financial data. Millionaires can have over 100 bank accounts; billionaires tax returns run to 800 pages long. For people who earn most of their income from working (i.e. almost everyone), the IRS has an automatic system that compares individuals reports to the records submitted by their employers and banks. For the wealthy, who make much of their income from interest and investments, the agency has nothing to compare their reports against. The only way to tell if a rich person is cheating on their taxes is to sit down and go through them line by line.

Lets say you get a tip that some billionaire is hiding a bunch of money offshore and not paying taxes on it, said Arthur VanDesande, who spent 25 years as a criminal investigator for the IRS. And you manage to narrow the tax evasion down to 20 of his bank accounts. OK, now you have to prepare 20 subpoenas, get them signed by a judge and deliver them to the banks. But when you go to Bank of America, they say, We dont accept subpoenas at this location, you have to go to our authorized representative in Orlando. So then you go to Orlando and and you find out the money is linked to an offshore account. So then you have to write to the embassy...

Due to the IRS' lean resources, VanDesande did most of this legwork himself. You type your own shit, you make your own copies, you write every single affidavit. Sometimes you feel like, Im a senior-level person with a college degree. Why am I calling Wells Fargo and sitting on hold for 45 minutes?

extremely good economic system. extremely good

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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

yeah, given this, do most of you have a problem with being deceptive on your resumes etc........? if many employers are also deceptive?

I don't like lying, so I wouldn't do it personally. but I definitely don't judge people who do.

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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

yeah i agree, but why do potential employees get it much more harshly if they try to be deceptive , than employers?

because the employers are the ones in control. the system is set up to benefit them and harm workers

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ssjevot posted...

There now I can't be accused of lying about what you say. A reminder that your response to people pointing out problems with China was to talk about Flint, Michigan not having safe drinking water, something all of China lacks.

people pointing out problems with china (and I use "pointing out" in the most generous possible sense. they were merely pointing out that there are problems with china, not stating explicitly what they are) was in response to me pointing out, correctly, that China is doing a good job of containing the virus and that people are being xenophobic in spite of that.

also: pointing out that they are doing a good job of containing the virus is not the same as "defending" china

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ssjevot posted...

You literally don't know what that word means if you thought that was whataboutism.

cool. now shut the fuck up

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The Trent posted...

guys guys
please stop arguing it's stressing out my already heightened sense of terror. guys.

it would help a lot if people would stop telling blatant lies about me

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ssjevot posted...

Right, he just randomly decided to defend China by pointing out one city in the US doesn't have safe drinking water when the entire country of China doesn't have it. He literally knows nothing about China but feels compelled to defend it because their government claims to be communist. If you put some fascists in red clothing he just can't help himself, reality be damned. China manages to have worse income inequality than the US and he doesn't care at all because it's a fashion statement to him, not an actual ideal.

that's an awful lot of information you managed to glean from what I've said in this topic

I used a whataboutism because I was responding to something that I thought was a whataboutism

I have not defended china here, nor do I feel compelled to

so kindly shut the fuck up

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ssjevot posted...

Is it a requirement for communists to only use whataboutism when people point out how crappy communism is for people? In case you didn't know China's entire supply of water isn't safe to drink.

posts 27 and 31 both seemed like whataboutism to me. if that was not the case then I apologize

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jwlim80 posted...

We are talking about official figures of people killed by the virus

posts 27 and 31 both read as deflections to me. was that not the case?

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jwlim80 posted...

Let just say the conditions in Hubei are less than ideal. Evident when you see the death rate in China compared to International death rate.

how long has Flint, Michigan been without safe drinking water again?

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jwlim80 posted...

Possibly. But that came as a price of letting their own people suffer.

what are you talking about

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China's doing a really good job at keeping this virus contained, and the xenophobia that they're receiving for it is ridiculous

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CwebbMichSac4 posted...

like how?

it was for a custodial job. part-time, which basically means the hours are at the beck and call of the higher-ups

during the interview, my soon-to-be supervisor said there would be "lots of hours" and used an example of someone hired a month previously who had "78 hours on her first paycheque". he also said that I wouldn't be on call

my first week, I had two 5-hour shifts. and the next week was on call.

the dude ended up firing me before my probationary period was done because I used a broom instead of a vacuum to clean an area of the floor after an event

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there was one job I worked where I was seriously misled during the interview

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I generally spend 50-75 a week on groceries.

that's 300 a month, or 3600 a year. I'll round it up to 4000 because that number is a little easier and gives me some extra margin of error.

by my math, it'd take me 125 years to spend $500 000 on groceries.

money, please

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twitterfriends posted...

Star Wars where the native use trees and ambush the fuck out of invaders with better weapons.

the OT was actually written as an allegory for vietnam, with Vader being Henry Kissinger and Palpatine being Nixon (mixed with a little bit of Hitler). the empire is explicitly analagous to the US, and the rebels (not just the ewoks) to the viet cong

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what did you do vegy?

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DanHaren2019 posted...

Well trumps fanbase is pretty much mostly low class

trump supporters have a higher average income than the general population

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