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Hall of Fame voting has ended
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I mean, my notes just stop after my theory block. I think the scene prior to it was at ABIS HQ with Date leaving while Pewter was getting the machine up and running. I can't recall where I was going (these notes are over 12 hours old), but maybe it was to the diner?
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Day 4: Monday jikAI

What sucks about this is that unless they change people in the polar bear costumes, I already know it is Sejima, so I have to do this song and dance with freaking Mayumi claiming to be the attempted murderer. I never liked her anyway.

Day 5: Tuesday zugAI

Great, I have to psync in the mind of a dementia patient who happens to be Mayumi. I have literally no idea what to expect. Well I guess that plan's on hold because Date and Ota were incompatible or something and that damaged the psync machine or something. I don't care.

Here's a thought, what if Renju is Iris' father? I know in Japanese games/media, they really like to hit you over the head with making a child look exactly like at least one of the parents, but I think Uchikoshi doesn't have much of a history doing that from my experience. Anyway, I bring this up because Iris doesn't resemble Hitomi (which I am becoming more convinced Hitomi is not her biological mother) or Renju. If Hitomi isn't her biological mother, and the way Renju approaches parenthood, I wouldn't be surprised if he arranged something with Hitomi and Iris like he did with Date and Mizuki, only presumably legal-bound. Also, maybe I am confusing this with another game (I have also been playing Spider-Man and Shadow of the Tomb Raider), but didn't someone have a genetic issue? It would potentially explain why Renju NEEDED Iris. Also, I am suspecting Falco and Renju could be brothers. This feels like the kind of game to go for an ironic twist like Iris calling Falco uncle, and he in fact is her uncle.

I realize that I stopped after this. I think I was in the car going somewhere.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Well, Aiba says there's a dead body, so uh, I give it a 90% chance of it being Aiba, 9% Renju, and the field the other 1%. Okay yeah, it is Aiba. It is just like the Bloom Park somnium I think. When the forklift/carousel was raised, a dead Aiba on ice was found. I'm not sure what this means but okay!

Hmm, another locked path. I guess my true original path continues to elude me. Looking at the flowchart, I am unsure how locked paths will work in this game. Will they be like the Zero Escape series and continue from that point once I find out whatever they want or does the unusual image suggest I will be re-writing history and prevent her death/leaving with Renju and same with the Boss/Sejima thing on the other side? I am not on the game to re-check, but I want to say this particular path had an ominous image of Hitomi while the other had an image of what may have been inside the Sagan residence.

My only other option at this point is to go back to Ota's somnium and choose the green shelf over the red one. As an aside before talking about that, I still feel like the events of the game are taking place within a somnium. I have already mentioned a few times about Aiba semi-frequently talking about Date's dosage that seems more like a recurring theme than an unfunny recurring gag without a punchline. I'm convinced that the one or two mentions of parallel timelines was just a reference to Zero Escape. If there are locks that prevent me from going through a route until I find something out, there are basically two reasons for this. The first game is super lame and forces me to go through everything for basically no reason. The second one, and Uchikoshi has a history of this, is that it is imperative that I do experience just about everything or the plot falls apart. In the previous games of his that I have played, that reason was parallel timelines. I really think this all taking place within a somnium can explain some of the bizarre things and why there would be locks on the flowchart.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

So I think that at this point in the path:
- Renju is alive and whose whereabouts are unknown
- Nobody else is known to have died since Shoko
- Pewter though has been asked to betray Iris/Date under orders from his lover in Renju

Now I am going to treat this as my true original path since I didn't believe Iris' Naix-whatever claim but somehow made Date still believe her.

Day 5: Tuesday kenzAI

Fuck you too Iris. lol she's such a child if she thinks someone who is theoretically a total stranger until a couple days ago is just going to believe her without question. Hitomi says Iris has bouts of delusion, among other things, because of a malignant brain tumor, and that Iris may or may not know? Are you really her mother? Who the hell doesn't tell their adult child they are dying? The fact that Iris ran off with the person she trusts most, and that person isn't Hitomi speaks volumes.

Now I assume that person is Renju because well, who else would it be? I figured they would go to that secret psync machine, but that isn't an option, and I don't think Date is aware of that in this path at this point in time. It wasn't an option anyway, but the warehouse is a good enough second option.

There are no cars out in front here, so maybe that is a good/bad sign? Renju wanted her for use in that psync machine, if my deduction skills are up to par, so if he was the one she ran off with, he wouldn't take her here unless there's a third psync machine hiding under our noses somehow.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Hollywood

Irishman
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Yeah, if anybody is enticed by a time-looping exploration game, I can vouch for Outer Wilds.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

At first I thought you were being silly, then I read your ballot and realized you were being serious.

KCF0107 posted...

I originally had a hardline stance of only considering players who debuted in the inaugural season or later and incumbent players whose career stat line showed no production entering the inaugural season (mostly OL). I immediately made one exception to include Tatum Bell who holds the record for most rushing yards in a season and whose stats pre-B8NFLL were clearly laid out and were in line with what I read online. There were only a few other players like Bell that I would have considered to make an exception for, but I have decided to scrap that idea, and will continue with my original thought, so unfortunately Andre Johnson and Nate Burleson will not be making the list.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

For anyone who likes or wants to play more open-world games with an emphasis on exploring with tons unscripted, cool/bizarre/memorable encounters, try Far Cry 2 and 3.

Those are two of my favorite games, and when I had a topic about my 100 favorite moments in gaming, my #1 was something unscripted from Far Cry 2.

I'm not a big Zelda fan, especially their 3D offerings, but I am excited to begin this one as it seems to have a good shot at supplanting Majora's Mask as the best 3D Zelda.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Hall of Fame voting ends tomorrow at an unspecified time. It will probably be in the 7-9 PM ET range
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Knives Out
Uncut Gems
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Yooka-Laylee
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

What happens if I idle during the offseason?

First and foremost, I want to remind everyone that if for any reason you need/want to take a break from your B8NFLL duties, do not hesitate to tell me and ask me and I am more than willing to take temporary control of your team until you are willing and able to return.

As for the four main events of the offseason, three of them have safety nets in place to prevent your team from being gutted. If you don't understand what follows, then hopefully everything will make sense when we go over the specific rules for each offseason event as they come. If it still doesn't, do not hesitate to ask questions:

1. If you idle during Restricted Free Agency - I will sign one of your restricted free agents (RFAs) at random and to a random tender level. If said RFA is signed by another team, I will default to not matching the offer and letting them sign with the other team with draft pick compensation coming your way.

2. If you idle during Signing Your Unrestricted Free Agents, I will sign one-third of your unrestricted free agents (UFAs) at random and to the deals that they are asking for. I will round up (if you have 16 UFAs, I will sign six). I will include players who will only sign via the franchise tag among the UFAs, but they will not be among those that I choose at random (aka will be used for counting purposes in your favor). Any player holding out will not count as a UFA and may be re-signed at my discretion (any knowledge of you trying to make a trade + your roster/salary cap situation will be taken into consideration).

3. If you idle during NFL Draft + Signing Rookies - I will draft for your team as if I were in charge of them using a combination method of present (positional holes, perceived opportunities, etc...) and future-oriented (soon-to-be retired players, expiring contracts, team weaknesses, etc...) ideology.

4. If you idle during Free Agency - I won't do a thing. I have it set up so that the AI has the authority to sign any roster holes user teams have on their team. At the end of the third and final round of free agency, any user team with a roster hole will have the AI sign players until all holes have been filled. I will always remind users of any roster holes they have on their team after both signing their UFAs and rookies. The roster sheet on the hub spreadsheet also mentions to the very left of how many players for each position you need to have under contract for your team.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Ben
Rocket
Bernard
Octodad
John
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

RFA Rules

1. I will privately contact every user and inform them of their RFAs and the tender levels. If you dont have any RFAs, then you wont be notified.

2. Users will have three days to inform me which players they wish to sign and at what level.

3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for.

4. I will give users four days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me.

Now by "any action you wish to take," I mean that everyone has an opportunity to attempt to sign RFAs from other teams. You might see some sticker shock but keep in mind that some positions are more expensive (WRs, DTs, QBs) than others (OLBs, Cs, TEs) relative to their overall rating. An 80 WR will usually be more expensive than a 90 C, and that's just how things are

5. If a team attempts to sign another teams RFA, then the user who owns the RFAs rights will have three days to decide whether or not to match the offer.

The deadline for the first phase (encompassing rule #s 1 + 2) will be Saturday, February 8th at 11 PM ET. As always, do not hesitate to ask me any questions.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Restricted Free Agency

This minor but oddly detailed offseason event is for a small subset of players who just completed their untampered rookie contract that was exactly three years in length. These players are not eligible to be originally offered multi-year contracts by the team that holds their rights but instead one-year contracts of fixed figures based on the tender level that you offer them.

Our Tender Levels for this season
No Tender = no potential draft pick compensation = $0
Low Tender = potential original round draft pick compensation = $990k
Mid Tender = potential 1st round draft pick compensation = $2.17 mil
High Tender = potential 1st + 3rd round draft pick compensation = $2.88 mil

Now, the mentioning of draft pick compensation there is only applicable if another team attempts to sign your player. It has no bearing on this first phase of RFA. It wouldn't make much sense if you had to give up draft picks to sign your own player now would it? Newcomers and people who don't have a good memory are certainly free to ask me what round a player was drafted in if that affects their tender level.

That being said, you might want to keep in mind about that draft pick compensation when you determine what tender to offer your player. If you think highly of your player, you might want to offer the highest tender to deter other teams from attempting to sign them. If you don't consider a player to be a part of your future plans, you might want to offer the low tender so that they barely count against your cap space and you could end up even getting draft pick compensation if someone else wants him.

A word of advice from me: The full monetary amount attached to the tenders is NOT GUARANTEED and is usually less than what they would make on the open market, so there is essentially 0 risk to offering all of your players a tender unless you personally hate them with a passion.

You can also engage trade talks with other teams so that you can prearrange a trade that if X player is not signed by another team, you will trade them to Y team for Z compensation that might be lower than what Y team would have had to give up to sign them during RFA. In this scenario, you might want to offer the highest tender level to deter the maximum amount of teams from disrupting the trade.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Two teams still have the same K and P that they had from the inaugural season:

Colts (Jeff Reed and Shane Lechler)
Lions (Rob Bironas and Rodney Williams)

With both Ps in their 40s, it is likely there will be 0 teams with that distinction in S14.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

So obviously, there are still like 67 unanswered questions/mysteries in the game, but I'm just focusing on the ones that are personally sticking out to me at this moment.

1. Boss killed Sejima in the other branch. She had to have known somehow that Sejima was responsible for Iris and Ota's death (I am operating under the assumption, not fact, that the person in the polar bear suit is always the same), so for her to defy HQ and throw away her career, she must have done this for very personal reasons. That and she deliberately wanted Date/Pewter/Aiba to find that footage.

2. The incident with Iris and Ota in the warehouse brings up some conundrums. Shoko was killed at an unknown location and placed at Bloom Park. Renju was killed at an unknown location and placed by someone around 105 lbs at Sunfish Pocket. Iris was kidnapped publicly and driven to a warehouse that seemingly has no connection to her where her murder was going to be live-streamed. If Sejima is responsible for those two murders and intended to murder Iris, that would mean that the streaming bit has to be in connection to Iris' career as an idol and her late-night live-streams. How does the warehouse then represent Iris since clearly transporting her elsewhere to be displayed would pointless at that point? If Sejima isn't responsible for all three deaths and just Iris, or actually even if he is, why has NOBODY brought up the 105 lb person at Sunfish elevator again? Is this where Hitomi comes into play?

3. Everyone is soooo convinced that the eyes were forcibly removed. In all but one instance, the victim was dead by the time they were found or were unconscious and soon to be in a coma. At the end of Iris' path, her left eye was totally fine entering the secret psync machine, and when we left, it was gone. She was also sick at the time. Did she lose an eyeball because of using that other device? Did Shoko and Renju also lose their eyes because they were in the device? Sejima clearly didn't have the time when he kidnapped Iris in Mizuki's path, so I feel this helps my theory that Sejima could have been the original cyclops killer and his attack on Iris was a continuation of that, but Shoko and Renju were killed by someone else. It also helps that Iris fits the original Cyclops Killer's MO while Shoko at 37 or whatever was probably no longer considered to be a young woman, and Renju was neither young nor a woman.

When I resume again, I think I want to revisit the right path again, which I believe means my only option is to go to the first ShovelForge somnium and make sure that I do what I wanted to do the first time, and make it so I Date doesn't believe Iris' totally bogus (if there is a god) conspiracy theory.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

In one of these flashbacks, there was Mizuki when she first came to live at Date's. She looks the exact same as she does now. Wasn't that like 4-5 years ago though?

Well I feel dumb. I assumed that at the very end, you were supposed to go to Date. I saw that going to Date would give me a negative timie. That led me to believe there was more to it than that. Going to either of the parents would have resulted in getting a 1/9 timie, so I figured that would come in handy. It turns out, it is auto-game over if you go to Shoko or Renju. Luckily that didn't set me back much. At the conclusion, I ended up with just 4.85 seconds left, so I feel like my initial gut feeling of getting the 1/9 timie was validated.

Day 6: Wednesday sanpAI

Wait, wait, just wait a minute. I thought Hitomi barely knew Shoko, and it was Renju who she was friends with. Mizuki is claiming that Hitomi is Shoko's best friend. Something is fishy is going on here.

Mizuki Path End
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

They, as in Date, are really quick to say that Sejima killed Shoko and Renju when there is literally no evidence of that. I know I just said that Sejima could be the original and new killer, but I meant to say he could be the old killer and also attempted to kill Iris. There are few clues, and even fewer that can be attached to any person or kind of person, about Shoko and Renju's murders.

I was subject to another bafflingly incompetent shootout at Sejima's residence. Date could have shot Sejima in the head, but there was apparently a high risk of hitting Mizuki. Let's ignore the fact that Aiba can advise/manipulate Date into doing things with 100% accuracy, but I guess we had to do the ol' pipe and bullet trick to reach a contrived dramatic event. I don't even analyze the situation, the whole mood just seemed like they wanted me to protect Mizuki instead of shooting Sejima, so I obliged. I still shot Sejima, so I guess it all worked out, but uh, they dropped a little bomb out of left field in the process. Sejima is Date's dad? Okay? I don't know what I am supposed to feel about that.

Day 6: Wednesday hiAI

It appears that bosses' real name is Shizue Kuranushi, or something like that. Name doesn't ring a bell, nor do I know if it even matters. Odds of her being a part of the Kumakura family have lowered at any rate.

This might be a record number of psyncs on a route, though this is only my third, as I am taking control of Mizuki to help Date get out of a coma, a conclusion that science apparently agrees with in this alternate reality.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

There is no match in the database for the 2nd set of DNA. That rules out people with criminal histories, but, and I don't know Japanese laws, there might be instances where someone seeking federal employment might be subject to DNA testing? Even with working with a vulnerable group such as children, I doubt a school teacher qualifies (not that I know if Hitomi works for a public or private school). Even if Sejima wouldn't be able to buy his way out of it, I highly doubt a senator qualifies either. I guess this revelation has eliminated nobody.

Sejima is off in the distance and is favoring his left leg. It sure is looking he's our guy. That would be cool to get something right in this game. I wasn't exactly joking when he was my main guess for the person in the polar bear, but I wasn't exactly exuding with confidence either. That was also in the path where I turned the TV knob in the somnium, so there are no guarantees that the person in the polar bear suit is the same person in both branches.

The cigarette butts from the Kumakuras matches the blood at the scene, so it is Sejima. Got 'em...is what I would like to say, but Date was removed from the case. That makes me wonder since this order came straight from the top. If Sejima had something on police HQ, and given how idiotic a lot of people are in this game, could HQ really have serial killings be pinned on Falco instead of Sejima. It is ridiculous to consider, but I feel like I must. It is possible that the Original and New Cyclops Killer is one and the same.

Oh, wow, shocker up in here. Mizuki is in trouble. Nobody could have seen that coming. Lol, that was anticlimactic, I found her on my first attempt inside the left speaker (there were only like three realistic options anyway). The point is though that I am relatively better detective and Date should totally relinquish some situational control to me.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I haven't even begun to think about what I will choose, so I probably won't have mine sent until Friday or Saturday.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I am officially done with Crystalis. I made it through one boss before deciding it wasn't worth continuing. I will hopefully start OneShot within the next week. I might as well use the rest of my Nintendo Online trial for another excuse to go through Super Mario World and Kirby Super Star.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Deadpool
Eleanor
John
Terence
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

At least there's still Sam
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

All player ratings are updated. Financial sheet was previously updated for cap spaces and retired players. It is now updated for removing all contract info for players with expired contracts and contract lengths for those still under contract, plus their cap hits for this season.

To Do:
- Update team financial sheet (ages + cap hits for next season for applicable players)
- Start RFA
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Anaheim Lightning through Minnesota Vikings (plus Steelers) have their ratings updated.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Steelers cut QB Michael Turner
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Hollywood
Toy
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Retired Players have been removed from Roster/Financial/Free Agent
Free agent sheet is fully updated

To Do:
- Update ratings on roster
- Update contracts/financials
- Start RFA
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I guess it technically doesn't, but no I did not manually come up with each coach's record. I can see it plain as day in the game.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

KCF0107 posted...

I don't think that I have ever done an overview of the league's head coaches. I will list the head coach from each division and include their record as a head coach. It will include Ws/Ls from any head coaching stint prior to B8NFLL as well as the playoffs.

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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

With this new wave of retirements, HBs and OLBs now join FBs in positions that have no players (on roster or free agent) from the inaugural season still around. Here is the position breakdown:

QBs: 5
HBs: 0
FBs: 0
WRs: 8
TEs: 3
OTs: 22
Gs: 32
Cs: 9
DEs: 19
DTs: 10
OLBs: 0
MLBs: 5
CBs: 3
FSs: 1
SSs: 1
Ks: 14
Ps: 11
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I started Crystalis earlier today. The people kept talking about a windmill. I wandered a little while until I found the windmill. It was one room, and I flailed around before coming to the conclusion that there's nothing I can interact with there.

I will give it a second shot, but with the combat kind of shitty (terrible hitboxes/poor attack ranges and running-and-swinging ALWAYS results in getting yourself damaged), I'm not liking my chances of sticking with it.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Outer Wilds
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Day 4: Monday syougAI

Ota is tight-lipped again, so yeah, he definitely suspects his mom. I know it doesn't look good for her given her condition, rage issues with Iris, and Ota being stabbed by a knife with a floral pattern, which I believe matches the description of what Mayumi herself said she received as a gift in the past. I obviously do not believe she did it, and I would rather not having to keep visualizing the stupid twist that nobody talks about in The Village.

Day 5: Tuesday seisAI

I think it is odd they had Date pass out from prolonged somnium exposure there. I wonder if him being out of commission triggered something plot-wise or might experience something similar sickness-wise to Iris and (allegedly) Renju.

At Marble, I can't see Mama's legs, and Mizuki is still wary of Mama despite being "totally cool" with the LGBT community. If Mama is an info broker, she can easily use that to commit murder and stall/obstruct an investigation. I need to keep an eye on her, or I guess keep her in my thoughts is the more accurate phrase.

Seeing this flashback of Renju and Shoko, man they suck at parenting. They are rich, they should have just swallowed their pride and let Hitomi, even though she might be a murderer herself, take care of Mizuki. They are also seem to be comparing Shoko to the Original Cyclops Killer.

Uh, after repeated attempts to get a dumb end by constantly clicking on the same option in a conversation finally paid off. I asked the Lemniscate receptionist to go to what turned out to be a city, and Date just left Mizuki high and dry and went to the beach or something.

Aha! There were two sets of blood at the warehouse! After leaving the warehouse, I had to go back to HQ before leaving again to go back to the warehouse for the identity of the second set of blood. I am convinced with how things are developing that I am on Mizuki's end path, and I am feeling uneasy that I left her at HQ with Boss when I don't actually believe that she needs to be questioned by some part of the police department. I am totally going to find out that it was Boss' blood found at the scene aren't I?

I guess that question will be answered when I next play.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

The somnium conveniently takes us back to the warehouse. I thought the melody sounded like a classic western, but given the lines Ota had and the way he gave them, I am guessing they were actually going for like a Power Rangers/Saturday morning super hero vibe. Maybe I am not crazy, and they are similar.

Man, all these actions at the beginning that I'm seeing are taking up so much time. I feel like more than two false moves here can do me in. Well strike one right off the bat apparently, but my guess of having Aiba jump on the ice did the trick. The next lock has the branching path, and they are explicitly mentioning the green and red shelving units. I don't really have a preference here (why would I?), so I ended up just going with red. I'm mad at myself for not getting this one done in one shot. I was at the very end, but apparently Ota has to press the crane control button and not Aiba.

Quickly rectifying the situation, Ota gives the polar bear person a gruesome leg injury. Wait a second, shouldn't their blood be mixed in where Ota's blood is too? I don't recall being given that info by CSI.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I will publicly reveal my bracket like last season:

HB Carnell Williams - Yes

One of the most productive HBs we've had on a per season basis, and I would assume that he has the most career yards in B8NFLL history with a good YPC. It also helps that he's carried (no pun intended) that offense for the second half of his career. And an added bonus is that his body of work would also enshrine him if this were reality. Easy call.

HB Cedric Benson - No

He's been an above-average HB at his best (really just in Buffalo), but for the vast majority his career, he was mediocre. I mean, his 3.9 YPC and being a complete non-factor in the passing game kind of says it all. His longevity and opportunities given may have afforded him a good career rushing total, but there was never a point in time where one would call him among even the Top 10 best HBs in the league.

HB Laurence Maroney - No

As the resident Golden Gopher fan, I want to say yes so bad, but he simply doesn't have the body of work. He was so underutilized across his career, it hurts. He had to operate in a Michael Vick offense for nearly his entire career, which took away a lot of touches from him. The AI actually made him the #2 HB in two seasons. The post-Vick and injured-Vick offenses were shifted to passing-oriented, which continued to make him second fiddle, on a good day.

FB Brian Leonard - Yes

The easiest call. He will almost certainly be the only FB even considered to be placed on the ballot given it is impossible to quantify the impact of pure-blocking FBs, and in general, FB stats are ugly to look at. Leonard had a career YPC that nearly matched Benson. The dude had 88 total TDs and made the Pro Bowl every season (though I will admit that Pro Bowl voting for FBs is entirely based on stats and not blocking prowess).

RT Kareem McKenzie - Yes

He compares to our inductee from last year, Mark Tauscher. They have similar accolades and were pivotal in their ability to provide their teams with excellent rushing attacks. Tauscher had a better peak, but I would say that McKenzie was statistically the more consistent player.

RT Floyd Womack - No

He was a very good OL for his career, and the 6 or fewer sacks allowed every season is very impressive, but I just don't see him as Hall of Fame material. There's a lot of OTs like him, but very few are like McKenzie.

C Chukky Okobi - Yes

I totally understand why people would say no. His block totals per season are pretty paltry, and he does not have a Pro Bowl nod to his credit. I blame that on block totals being the main factor on Pro Bowl voting, which I do realize circles back to what his main criticism is. However, that is an absurd Block/Sack ratio for an interior OL. Check your stat PMs from the years to verify that. He and Hall of Fame inductee Tutan Reyes formed one hell of a tandem in Oakland.

LOLB Leroy Hill - Yes

I know compared to real life players, Hill's stats won't match up. MLBs in general soak up the counting stats more than OLBs, so for Hill to still have a career like this, with across the board production at that, is very impressive to me. I felt like he was probably robbed of 2-3 Pro Bowl nods too. He's been a highly underrated OLB for his career, and I feel he is HoF-worthy.

LOLB David Pollack - No

Pollack does have all those Def TDs and being the one steadying force in the Jags LB corps for a consistently great Jags D, but I just can't bring myself to say yes to him. Great career, not a hall of fame player.

ROLB Demarcus Ware - Yes

I am a huge fan of ironman streaks, so him playing all 192 games is a big deal to me, and those FR figures, especially in comparison of his peers, are eye-popping to me. He wasn't a one-trick pony either has he compiled great sack and INT totals relative to his position. I'm not going to look past his overall lack of accolades and say yes.

LOLB Shawne Merriman - No

Merriman is an interesting case. Having missed more than two whole seasons worth of games in his career (38), his per game stats actually stack up well, and he was one of the few players holding that Chiefs D together as the seasons went on. Ultimately though, I never thought of him as an elite OLB during his career, and his body of work suffering due to missed time is too much to overcome.

SS Eric Weddle - No

I really like that Weddle flew under the radar. I don't think many people thought he had that kind of career, but that also means people, including me, never really thought of him as a top SS in the game. I wonder if he would have accrued the kind of stats that people couldn't ignore if the final few seasons of his career didn't come as a backup (though we've had some excellent seasons by backup SSs)

CB Domonique Foxworth - No

I was honestly just trying to find some player to add a little variety to the mix. There really isn't much of a case for Foxworth. He played for the Titans D for most of his career, so obviously he wasn't much good. He may have had 6 KR TD, but he had no PR, and is 6 really Hall of Fame material? Roy Helu Jr. is the only player right now that I am voting in based on return stats.

CB Victor Alejo - No

Obviously not. I just wanted to give one final shoutout, before everyone forgets him, to living the dream of getting paid millions for relatively little work and only putting your body at risk during select practices. If only the real Victor Alejo stumbled upon this...
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Damien Williams was the MVP anyway
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Furiosa
Cole
*abstain
*abstain
Thomas
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Tetris 99
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

My Nintendo Online trial runs out on the 7th, so I will try and get through Crystalis by then (as well as give me an excuse to go through Super Mario World, Kirby Super Star, and A Link to the Past again).
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Lighthouse
Uncut
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I don't think it can be good that Boss is meeting with Date at the hospital to talk with Ota. I believe the very beginning of the game is the only time I have seen her outside of HQ, and given what I have seen from her recently...

Yeah, that's right Date, question Boss calling Ota a hero! This conversation seems to be headed toward Mayumi being the prime suspect. It seems impossible for her to have been able to catch up with him, and I will not entertain the thought for one second of her being in the polar bear suit. That is ripping the dumbest thing out of the movie The Village. It seems even Ota is suspecting his mom.

Ota saw Iris driving Renju's car at 8:30. I want to say that was the night Renju died and it was after his estimated time of death? I honestly don't know, and I really wish that they had a convenient tab for the timeline of important events sorted by each path. Like the flowchart has these really thin and useless info sheets, but they cover very little and rarely tell dates/times! I realize that they don't expect people to approach the game like me, but it makes me trying to figure some things out pretty much an impossible task if I can't even get an accurate timeline going.

Oh cool, Ota's holding a knife. Fuck this, I know what he does with things that are or can be used with weapons! Boss, uh, had some knockout gas handy on her? That, that can't be good right? Aside from the obvious, we know Renju at the very least was sedated before he died. Can't linger on this right now, because it is psyncing time!
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Can we really say that Ota saved Iris (I'm not convinced of his innocence I want to add) when he probably made multiple dumb actions (knocking out Date and having Iris run away with him among them) that led to this? Hmm, I can say goodbye to Hitomi or ask her for her alibi. Do I risk it? Yes I wil...oh it didn't matter. Her alibi didn't actually clear her since she had opportunity.

At the warehouse, we are discussing the two vehicles that were there when Date arrived and are still there. The station wagon presumably driven by the polar bear was stolen at 10:33. Uh, I guess Ota was caught on camera stealing it. Isn't that his van though? Well, it definitely is as Ota's prints are on the wheel, and Iris' are there too. What is going on here?

Investigating inside yielded some chocolate. I see Ota's blood is evidence B, but why can't I investigate evidence A? I see it back there, and isn't this my job?

I had to laugh when we went to Sejima's because the bodyguard was packing a mere pistol, and that somehow constitutes as being "heavily armed" in this game.

Mayumi's prints were on the chocolate? Interesting, but I have to assume a red herring/planted.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Well, now I can proceed where to go from here, I might as well go back to Date's to see Mizuki lay into him.

"Ota is amazing. I'm changing my mind about that guy." - Mizuki
- Well I'm not!

LMAO at Mizuki's punch in the flashback. Why does she even need iron pipes then?

At the diner, things were finally made clear about the situation. The dad has passed away...SI...no it is just five years ago. The diner has been closed for SI...no eight years. Mayumi has had dementia...SI...YES SIX YEARS AGO! It makes sense that the diner has been closed for many years (how do they even support themselves?), but all dementia cases are different, so it wasn't a foregone conclusion.

Visiting Hitomi at the hospital, the mirror above the sink is almost fully giving off this really weird green color that doesn't match anything in the room. I'm guessing that was probably some error on the developer's end, but maybe it actually means something...oh well. Hitomi also mentioned losing a friend at a "young age". That probably means said friend isn't one of the victims from the first Cyclops Killings.

"It seems that she passed out and was brought here" - Aiba on Hitomi
"Yeah, the nurse told me." - Date
- Shouldn't Aiba have known the nurse told him?
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Hmm, the theme of this other version of Iris' somnium is animal abuse. Lovely. At the end, the blue figure is killing the head of Sejima on the body of a female. Okay...

Day 3: Sunday rihAI

Ota absolutely telegraphed he was going to attack Date again, and he totally fell for it. Date may not have known about the other attempt, but Ota clearly bungled the setup to where Date should have noticed the red flags!

Day 4: Monday youdAI

I think Iris did or was about to do something to Mayumi? Mayumi was really going to let Iris have it, but she abruptly stopped, audibly even, and Iris approached her and moved her arm. More importantly, why didn't Mayumi notice Date!?

I'm not entirely sure why Iris and Ota aren't dead when Date arrived this time. I get that the diner might be closer to the warehouse than Marble, but it isn't as if Date actually did anything. Maybe Mayumi is the key here?

Date was in pursuit of the person in the bear costume, but the next screen showed it being 9:34 in the morning at ABIS HQ, so I am going out on a limb and saying that manhunt went nowhere...aaaaand we quickly have our confirmation.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

I should get an update up before I go to bed. I should be able to focus on the game more now moving forward.
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

Cave
Winslow

Wheatley
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu

MegamanX posted...

I know it was last month but I beat AER woo, I didn't really like it.

:(
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KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy
If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu