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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 6:29:51 PM
#100
meestermj posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Violent media definitely contributes.

There are numerous studies that show no correlation or causation between violent media and violent actions/ideation.
Educate yourself.
edit: how can you call yourself "Knowledge King" and be so uninformed?


There are numerous studies that have shown the reverse. There is a fundamental issue with that literature though, so it's hard to tell what's going on.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:59:39 PM
#87
averagejoel posted...
DrizztLink posted...
averagejoel posted...
it's also further contributing to the stigmatization of mental illness as a whole. remember that mentally ill people are not more likely to perpetrate violent crimes than mentally healthy people, but they are much more likely to be victims of violent crimes than mentally healthy people.

You know what, that's a fucking good point.

I'm also inclined to think that, if there were a significant correlation between white supremacy and mental illness, there would also be a more significant correlation between perpetrating violent crime and mental illness


That doesn't follow unless you think the overlap between those two populations are giant (and that white supremicists are more likely to be violent than the general population).

People really should stop using these flimsy indirect arguments about what must causally be true given some sort of correlation.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:41:21 PM
#76
NonDairyMiltank posted...
many studies with merit (from both sides of the political spectrum) have shown that both impressionable girls and boys can be negatively impacted by a lack of father figure in their upbringing, but boys on average suffer a greater developmental impact


As far as I understand, this is a distortion of what these studies have found, which is that children of single parent households fare worse in outcomes, financial and mental.

If you have an example of a study specifically teasing apart effects of single parent (father) vs. single parent (mother), i'd love to read it.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:38:33 PM
#75
IloveJesus posted...
COVxy posted...
IloveJesus posted...
MFBKBass5 posted...
M_Live posted...
MFBKBass5 posted...
Extreme violence in the media, movies, video games, etc
I honestly don't feel that this is a contributing factor


You dont think glorification of guns and war in the media is a contributing factor? The US has been pumping out propaganda through war movies for decades.


Yeah, it has, but the rest of the world consumes that media. Here in the UK we watch as much of it as anybody else. Despite this, and our many, many other faults as a country, we don't have anything like the same issue.


This logic is extremely flawed.

All the things you stated can be true and it can still be a contributing factor.


It could be, but there's no reason to believe that it is and my previous post casts doubt on the claim. It might not disprove it, but it gives reason to not accept it at face value.


Your post does no such thing. It doesn't logically follow.

And there are many controlled lab studies that show an effect of violent video games on aggressive behavior. Which is the reason this has continued to pop up.

In the literature, it's so political and varied that it's hard to tell how much of the effect is real or an artifact of studying noise. My guess is that the true answer is that any game that involves competition is likely to increase aggressive behavior.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:25:01 PM
#50
IloveJesus posted...
MFBKBass5 posted...
M_Live posted...
MFBKBass5 posted...
Extreme violence in the media, movies, video games, etc
I honestly don't feel that this is a contributing factor


You dont think glorification of guns and war in the media is a contributing factor? The US has been pumping out propaganda through war movies for decades.


Yeah, it has, but the rest of the world consumes that media. Here in the UK we watch as much of it as anybody else. Despite this, and our many, many other faults as a country, we don't have anything like the same issue.


This logic is extremely flawed.

All the things you stated can be true and it can still be a contributing factor.
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TopicMind blowing concept: What if there was more than 1 cause for mass shootings?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:22:43 PM
#45
CloneTheHero hasn't been active lately or has their activity feed set to private.


Honestly, don't bother.
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TopicWould the US be safer, if everyone had a gun?
COVxy
08/04/19 5:10:38 PM
#40
LordRazziel posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...

Yeah all questions where simple yes/no It also asked a lot about aches and pains and I get that depression can cause aches and pains but what if you just legit have aches and pains for other reasons. Also asked me if I would like to be a park ranger. I really didnt get that psych evaluation at all. I understand it used to ask about your sex life as well.

Interesting
Hey, @COVxy do you have any idea why all this and asking "if you where a reporter would you enjoy reporting sports?" Would have to do with a gun ownership psych eval?


My best guess is that it's a catch question meant to confict with another question if someone just answered randomly (or systematically in one direction), but idk.
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TopicAs of tomorrow I start my new job
COVxy
08/04/19 12:49:34 PM
#1
Feeling a bit nervious. Been a long time since I started something that I have very little pragmatic experience/know-how in.
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TopicFBI identifies conspiracy-theorists like QAnon as a new domestic terror threat.
COVxy
08/01/19 5:48:18 PM
#27
Why do people think it's funny to troll about this shit when it has real world consequences?

Grow the fuck up.
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TopicWhat if an academic job listing, instead of 'ABD candidates'
COVxy
08/01/19 4:53:07 PM
#3
I feel uncomfortable that this is now in my search history.
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TopicMake Less Than $100,000? Living Solo in NYC Is Getting Harder
COVxy
08/01/19 1:37:49 PM
#25
On a more important note, I'm getting pretty tired of the "look how hard it is to be in the middle class now-a-days" shit-takes.

Really driving home the whole relative wealth comparison bullshit.
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TopicMake Less Than $100,000? Living Solo in NYC Is Getting Harder
COVxy
08/01/19 1:03:55 PM
#15
EdgeMaster posted...
Explain more?


Afaik, which isn't much, the preferred method is just to not own buildings that qualify for rent control, as the above poster noted.
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TopicMake Less Than $100,000? Living Solo in NYC Is Getting Harder
COVxy
08/01/19 12:54:22 PM
#9
EdgeMaster posted...
AlephZero posted...
nyc needs rent control to keep prices down


Not sheriff srs.

On a more serious note Im at a complete loss how the fuck rent control would make rent even more ridiculously expensive.... so if anyone cares to explain how rent control would turn a $2100 3bed apt into a $3000+ 3bed apt Im all ears.


I mean, I'm sure the answer is moreover landlords finding ways around it, so the opposite of rent control causing it.
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TopicIt bothers me that Kratom is available in pot shops.
COVxy
07/31/19 11:39:38 PM
#26
MabusIncarnate posted...
I'm just gonna step away, it's something you should really read up on before stirring up a topic like this.


I mean, it's literally an opiate. So yes, you can replace one opiate addiction with another one.

I fear it being an easy legal path to opiate addiction, similar to pain pills.
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TopicWhat's stopping someone from building a machine to rewrite the brain.
COVxy
07/31/19 10:13:57 PM
#3
Because the brain isn't a general computer.
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TopicAre you aware that there's a Democratic debate tonight?
COVxy
07/30/19 11:11:15 PM
#242
konokonohamaru posted...
Doom_Art posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I'm suspecting that you don't actually care about that as much as you would like others to think you do.

Why? I actually do care about it since as an Asian I know I could have gotten into better colleges if I had lied about my race


It's like a parody lol.
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TopicAre you aware that there's a Democratic debate tonight?
COVxy
07/30/19 11:05:27 PM
#236
ThyCorndog posted...
COVxy posted...
Bernie isn't nearly as eloquent and convincing as the other more progressive candidates like Warren, I don't get his universal support.

eloquent i'll give you but what's not convincing about him? he comes off as the most honest guy on stage every time. that's a big part of it. eloquence isn't that important to a lot of people


Because he's old and grandpa like?

I don't see him as seeming particularly more honest, on the face of it.
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TopicAre you aware that there's a Democratic debate tonight?
COVxy
07/30/19 11:00:04 PM
#232
Bernie isn't nearly as eloquent and convincing as the other more progressive candidates like Warren, I don't get his universal support.
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TopicSo how's the new season of OITNB?
COVxy
07/29/19 8:40:16 PM
#4
I definitely rank it towards the top, perhaps only topped by the first season.
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TopicCNN calls this kid a college dropout...
COVxy
07/28/19 9:19:23 AM
#2
He literally was. That was a cool story, read it yesterday
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 9:07:01 PM
#64
Lol. You may want to re-read the posts.
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 8:41:19 PM
#61
Did you read your link?
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 8:07:47 PM
#54
Lightwarrior11 posted...
How can human evolution be observed with controlled experimentation?


That's mostly not what evolutionary theory is about, especially in biology! Which is why it's solid.

What you are referring to is actually a small subset of biological anthropology, and it's not really very rigorous. Lots of extreme extrapolation from fossil records.
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 7:28:59 PM
#52
Lightwarrior11 posted...
COVxy posted...
Lightwarrior11 posted...
It rests on the same claims as does the theory of evolution itself, and is therefore just as falsifiable as evolutionary theory - and just as scientifically defensible as well.


You misunderstand the theory of evolution/modern synthesis.


How?


Biologists aren't saying "this species evolved into it's current form because of X", they are saying "these are the mechanisms for slow population shifts in the species". There's a process that is both biologically specified and mathematically modeled and can be observed with controlled experimentation.

This is different than speculating (which is all it could ever be) about the evolutionary basis for modern traits.
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 5:36:42 PM
#44
Lightwarrior11 posted...
It rests on the same claims as does the theory of evolution itself, and is therefore just as falsifiable as evolutionary theory - and just as scientifically defensible as well.


You misunderstand the theory of evolution/modern synthesis.
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TopicWomen Don't Murder Men Who Turn Them Down
COVxy
07/27/19 4:14:13 PM
#40
teepan95 posted...
Lightwarrior11 posted...
hyperpsycho posted...
Lightwarrior11 posted...
She is wrong insomuch as she attributes aggressive tendencies in males (and everything else she's talking about) to something called "patriarchy" instead of "evolutionary psychology".

[Full disclosure: I only read the quote, not the link]

Evo psych is pseudoscientific bs foh


No, it's actually the most logical and consistent articulation of a human psychology that fully explains the phenomenon of human sexual behavior and the existence of gender-determined personality differences.

Its relevant assertion is that evolutionary pressures resulted in significantly different brain architectures between men and women, the results of which can be predicted and understood by reference to the exigencies of survival present during the Paleolithic era, and that furthermore these difference will exert effects on modern society.

It's honestly just basic neuroscience to state that testosterone increases aggression, and basic population biology to state that males produce higher levels of testosterone; so statistically it should be assumed that more males than females will commit violent acts in anger.

Ipso facto, it's not patriarchy - it's evolutionary psychology.

I'm gonna have to call in an expert @COVxy


Eh, the difficulty here is that there's truth and bullshit mixed into one lovely shitpie. Evolutionary psychology, as typically referenced, is bullshit. Observing behavioral differences today and assigning the cause to unfalsifiable evolutionary just-so stories is not science, it's narrative.

But it is the case that testosterone plays a role in aggression, and that testosterone plays a bigger role in setting the tone of the CNS in men. But it is also the case that aggression is extemely complicated, mediated by numerous neurochemical systems and extremely sensitive to environmental influence. So, like, you probably can't look at sex based differences in aggression and simply attribute it to biology/testosterone/evolution.

This is not my area of neuroscience though, so disclaimers there.
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:51:22 PM
#97
CruelBuffalo posted...
Why would it be? Both involve made up footwork that hasnt been done. Just attach both to the same bill.


Except there's already ways to buy loans from companies. Pretty much the government just has to buy them and then settle them. Nothing with individual citizens needs to happen.
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:46:58 PM
#94
CruelBuffalo posted...
Then why not offer reimbursement to all people who paid student loans? What harm does that do to people with have debt.

Did we also not go through the same "predatory lending"?


My guess is that the legal footwork is a lot harder there.

I don't think many people for student loan forgiveness would be against it, I certainly am not, but it's a question of whether or not that is possible in the same way.
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:32:57 PM
#87
BignutzisBack posted...
COVxy posted...
I think the weird thought is "I endured pain, therefore others should too".


It only sounds weird because you word it that way to make it sound worse, what you should be saying is " I honored my part of the contract I agreed to, therefore others should too"


Except that's the exact way people word it. They don't feel morally outraged about the losses some financial group may incur, though I imagine it wouldn't work that way. They are outraged that they had to pay and others wouldn't.
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:26:37 PM
#83
BignutzisBack posted...
Sure it is, we're talking about people who made a choice and now want a hand out to fix it, and then you made a pointless post comparing a situation people are born into, not chosen.


Except the part I don't find weird is the distinction between choice and nonchoice, nor do I think it's that simple, as hinted at in the last post.

I think the weird thought is "I endured pain, therefore others should too".
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:21:21 PM
#80
BignutzisBack posted...
COVxy posted...
I grew up in financially difficult circumstances


Such a weird post, people choose do take out student loans they can't choose what financial situation they're born into.


That's not the part you are supposed to be comparing here.
(also silly to think these two things aren't related, btw)
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 12:17:59 PM
#78
BignutzisBack posted...
Great post, I've noticed that a lot of people who are pro loan forgiveness try argue the fallacy that people who paid off their loans didn't face any problems or make any sacrifices at all.


Such a weird stance. I grew up in financially difficult circumstances, and I wouldn't wish anyone else to go through it.

Seems pretty vindictive, tbh.
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/27/19 11:23:46 AM
#66
CruelBuffalo posted...
OK who is gonna pay for it? Public Colleges are run by the state. So is the Govt gonna give the state money?


A lot of state universities are already doing this!
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TopicOne of the main complaints against Elizabeth Warren's student loan policy...
COVxy
07/26/19 10:25:29 PM
#15
Prismsblade posted...
SuddenlyNinjas posted...
thronedfire2 posted...
if people paid their loans off already that means they actually got good jobs and lived stable enough lives to do it


I worked 100-120 hour weeks for 3 years.

That said, nobody should have to do that. It's still a bandaid, what we need is a reform of college, and the stupid notion that everybody needs it. I didn't need my beginner's walking or billiards classes to be a well-rounded programmer. It was all expensive bullshit.

The solution is making collage more exclusive like it used to be. Theres far to many people attending who really shouldn't sadly. And they can start making collage loans far less accessible, and promoting career paths other collage will go a long way.


Rather than discriminating against the poor, I'd rather there simply be less insidious incentives for teaching. Get rid of student evaluations, get rid of enrollment number based funding.

Professors are modifying their curriculum for those that don't want to be there. I'd rather make college free, but increase rigor and increase availability of resources to high school students re: other career paths.

Employers will get over themselves once the supply of college educated individuals is lower. Most jobs only require it because they can and it provides some initial thresholding procedure.
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TopicI got rejected for an engineering position due to "cultural fit"
COVxy
07/25/19 7:50:32 PM
#52
clearaflagrantj posted...
well, it was in depth but when the applicant knows they're being examined in an interview context they may voluntarily/involuntarily skew their answers.


"I lied on it."
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TopicDo people drink black coffee for the taste? Tastes like dirt ass.
COVxy
07/25/19 7:27:29 AM
#14
I don't really taste black coffee as bitter. Once you get past that bitter taste, coffee has a very diverse set of flavors, depending on the roast and origin.
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