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I'm already set up for a postdoc position working in mice, doing optogentics and calcium imaging (two techniques, one to stimulate the brain with light, the other to record the brain with light), to study visual representation and computation.

A postdoc position, in case you are unfamiliar, is another "training" position, typically you work more independently under a mentor and start to develop your own line of work to transition to your own lab in a principal investigator position.
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There's no way they would be caught without being exceedingly stupid, and certainly 4chan won't be doing the catching ffs. That video is fucking stupid lol.
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treewojima posted...

Well, now I'm spelunking Wikipedia on the functions of neurons in the brain, how they communicate (utilizing chemical reactions to create voltages to emit various neurotransmitters through what appears to be organic chemistry magic), and how they network together to perform bodily functions.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY

Extremely! lmao

Zanzenburger posted...

Congrats brother!

Soon we get to be Dr. Bros!

Thanks! I remember we proposed about at the same time haha.
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_Matchabuu_ posted...

So exciting! Im looking forward to when that day comes for me, down the road.

Academia is awesome

Are you in grad school or looking to apply?

Vita_Aeterna posted...

Wow, what are you doing posting in this rubbish site?

It wasn't always terrible here, but has been getting more and more terrible over time. Used to be a lot of very interesting conversations here.
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s0nicfan posted...

Probably worth reading up on, though. It has a LOT of experimentally derived data under the hood which lets you compare theory driven models against actual human data to validate your models.

The focus is mainly on cognitive modeling, which (surprisingly enough) is far enough away from neural modeling that it's not the type of modeling I work on.

You would hope that eventually they will come to meet in the center at some point, but it seems like that point is very far into the future haha.

treewojima posted...

Ah, so most working theories are that it's like RAM in a computer, in that there must be constant cycling of the individual bits of memory to keep the information intact or else the information is lost.

Yeah, pretty much.
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Conflict posted...

Grad school sounds like a very intimidating commitment

A PhD program is really only something you'll pull through with a soul intact if you really are quite interested in the work. Otherwise, it's too much for too long. And that's not even about the dissertation itself, which composes maybe a 10th of the work I've done over the years.
s0nicfan posted...

Are you using ACT-R to test your hypothesis?

Naw, I just learned that was a thing not too long ago though. I don't know if anyone actually uses it, but that could just be my ignorance because the focus is on a different field.

Drpooplol posted...

Good luck, good luck. You e put a lot of hard work into this, and I hope it goes well.

Thanks, hopefully. They say it's extremely unlikely to not go well, for anyone whose advisor lets them set a date to with their committee.
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What part of it was unclear? If you ask some questions I'd be able to talk you through it more.
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This is a big societal issue, tbh.

I don't know how the trajectory will ever be reversed.
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I'd say avoid getting a Master's unless you have a very specific need for it.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

so like, you're like, a really smart person, huh?

Naw, most academics are just normal people who spend a lot of time trying to understand very specific things. Lots of domain specific knowledge.

PatrickMahomes posted...

What does this all mean in gamefaqs human words

Well, so, the neuron is the basic functional unit in the brain, right? But action potentials, the 'firing' of a neuron, happen on the scale of milliseconds. But we know behavior and memory does not. If it did, we wouldn't be able to hold a conversation, because by the time I ended the speech output of a single word, I would have forgotten that I started speaking it. So, for long term memory this is something that's easy to reconcile, structural changes occur that modify the strength of certain connections between neurons, creating a 'memory' composed of the synchronous activation of a set of neurons. However, for short term memory/working memory, it's unclear how this happens, because it's not operating on a timescale that would allow for structural modifications.

So, basically, a large class of working memory models connect together a bunch of neurons together with balanced inhibition that allows for a reverberating signal, allowing for the maintenance of information across longer timescales. My dissertation is an exploration of these models, examining what assumptions they hold, what predictions they make, and how to generate data to constrain parameter selection for these models.
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Welp, haven't gotten back any "how dare you send us this peice of crap?", so that's a good sign.

I've decided that I'm just gonna keep this bumped until I defend. It'll be fun to keep track of things as they develop.
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Yeah.
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At 120 pages and 41 figures, this document is done.

Fam_Fam posted...

almost there brah. im working on my IRB approval to start my dissertation study in September. Hoping to be where you are now in about a year and a half

Good luck! Hopefully they aren't too unreasonable, as IRBs can be.

teepan95 posted...

Best of luck!

Thanks!
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There's a lot of insecurity bred into people by society.

Sometimes a quiet lunch by myself is a much needed break from dealing with people all day.
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PIITB415 posted...

Post on here after sending so we can read

My guess is that will just waste a bunch of people's time =P.

Here's the table of contents atm doe:


It's on spatial working memory, the first actual chapter (chapter 2) is on modeling stochastic drift and creating constraints on the organization of the system using behavioral tasks with distraction. The second is on developing methods to model topological arrangements in function between brain regions, as there are certain assumptions in the computational models about the organization of incoming sensory information to the prefrontal cortex. Third is about using certain topological relationships between regions to directly align human and macaque data to discover human homologs of particularly important regions in spatial working memory function. And the fourth is about testing relationship between topological relationship between the human homologs in responses during spatial working memory tasks.

King_Hellebuyck posted...

Congrats!

Thanks!
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LordRazziel posted...

I'm assuming you have backups, but what if you just lost everything?

Yes, several back ups haha.

That would be pretty fucked, my timeline is super tight right now (my defense is on the 17th). Something like that happened to me before in my 1st year, where a final project in my advisor's class was due the next day, and that night the file got corrupted somehow. Stayed up all night and re-wrote the entire thing. Was pretty awful.
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Marking the beginning of the end! I started writing it about 7 months ago, or at least thinking about writing it, based on my document timestamps.

Just gotta proof read and do minor edits here and there.
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knuxnole posted...

Why would kids make it hard on themselves in the best time of their lives?

If hs was the best time of your life, you're living a very sad existence.

Edit: i really should have kept reading, woulda realized the fact that im in a troll topic.
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I think 1st episode was definitely my favorite.
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I can't imagine you aren't just trolling, tbh.
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lydiaquayle posted...

COVxy posted...

A much more likely description is that they know it is wrong but the desire/reward/compulsion overwhelms that higher order thought process.

Plenty of people think drug use is NOT wrong, even though it's a crime.

That has little to do with the topic at hand.

Sure, it's a counter-example, congrats. But literally has nothing to do with the point of this topic. Drug use is not a violent crime, doesn't intrinsically impinge on other people's rights. Arguments can be made that are, well, reasonable. It's also not even clear it's actually the case with addicts, who describe their experience often as highly negative.
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AceAttorneyist posted...

COVxy posted...

lydiaquayle posted...

COVxy posted...

idk, it seems like 'education' isn't the answer.
Like, pretty sure each of these men know that this is bad behavior.

Nah, they might think it's criminal behavior, but they obviously don't think it's 'bad'.

You have a weird view of other humans.

It's logical, though. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. I mean, obviously rape and murder are wrong to you and I, but a warped mind may not think so. Or they know the difference between right and wrong and just don't care, which is effectively the same thing here.

Claiming that most people who do illegal things fit the legal description of insanity is, well, insane.

A much more likely description is that they know it is wrong but the desire/reward/compulsion overwhelms that higher order thought process.
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lydiaquayle posted...

COVxy posted...

idk, it seems like 'education' isn't the answer.
Like, pretty sure each of these men know that this is bad behavior.

Nah, they might think it's criminal behavior, but they obviously don't think it's 'bad'.

You have a weird view of other humans.
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idk, it seems like 'education' isn't the answer.

Like, pretty sure each of these men know that this is bad behavior.
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AsucaHayashi posted...

Ivynn posted...

What's the line? >_>

Check it out, the early debut of a porn star.
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s0nicfan posted...

Yes, I attended university.

Do you find the characterization of academia as these liberals running around indoctrinating students to find everything offensive congruent with your experience?
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s0nicfan posted...

academia

Did you attend university?
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Vyrulisse posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

You still care about random college professors and students way too much. Stop looking for things to be outraged over Addy and learn to ignore them

Most of the concern is that people like this guy have the status as College Professor and are in charge of teaching fresh faced College Students this kinda bullshit.

Did you attend university?
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yutterh posted...

LMAO they literally meant youtube has pedophile problem XD TO people not reading the whole article. Pretty much youtube's algorithm would designate peopel looking at sexual videos and recommend them these innocent child ones to look at. It isn't that people are watching the videos, it's more that youtube is bread crumming these videos from sexual videos XD Kind of creepy but hilarious because it's the AI that's doing it and not people lol

I don't think you understood what you read.
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Malfunction posted...

id be curious to know the exact workings of it tbh because i doubt every video that the algorithm feeds these people is explicitly titled 'prepubescent girls in skimpy clothing'.

But I'm sure it is something like "child dance shows" which happens to feature it. Similarly, "kids videos summer" probably also features it.

It seems like any recommendation program is going to have this "issue". I say "issue" because it's working exactly as designed. You can't control why people like certain material, only what material is available.
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Malfunction posted...

i mean yeah but youtube shouldn't guide people who want to look at videos of children for sexual gratification to other such videos either.

I mean, any recommendation system that recommends similar products to previously consumed products will do this. If a pedophile watches dance mom's or whatever on Netflix, I'm sure it'll recommend other shows that include children in leotards. Is this an issue worth getting outraged about? I'm not so sure.
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My guess is that if you are uncomfortable with people seeing your children in a bikinis, you probably shouldn't let them upload their videos to the very public and widely accessible internet.
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Fireballs posted...

absolutely no one

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Your work is like most of your adult life, you might as well at least like what you do.
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nemu posted...

but the way people want to frame these discussions is flawed from the very start.

I find that this is mostly not true.

In some rare occasions, sure. But for the most part you have people trying to have an honest conversation and conservatives mocking them by pretending they represent the caricature.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

"My FaMiLy WaS pOoR! WhEre WaS mY wHiTe PrIvIlEgE?!"

This alone is a reasonable issue to discuss, as it is a bit hard to navigate things when your minority status isn't visible.

However, because of the pernicious way people frame wealth, in a particularly relativistic way, this is most of the time some middle class dude who thinks that because his family couldn't take 4 vacations a year like the richer families in the neighborhood that they were "poor".

All of which is to say, I sympathize both with the mocking and the underlying issue being mocked.
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Most have noticed i dont spend a lot of energy responding to blatent trolls now a days.
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Up.
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ZeroKelvin posted...

BignutzisBack posted...

COVxy posted...

EnragedSlith posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...
[Stupid bullshit]

TC is getting flustered lol

Yeah, this is a pretty sad display ITT

Naw, just calling it like it is. Jumping on hedge words is not only moronic, but it is usually a deliberate bullshitting tactic.

But, it is effectively convincing to people who don't know any better, so it's important to point out.
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ChocoboMog123 posted...

Because it's asinine.

I wouldn't say that the thought itself is asinine, so much as the belief that, without reading the paper, the researchers didn't think of something so simple and try to control for it.
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hockeybub89 posted...

Who knew "bullying is bad" was such a controversial conclusion?

How else are people gonna feel good about themselves unless they can continue to punch down?
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EnragedSlith posted...

Lost_All_Senses posted...
[Stupid bullshit]

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No_U_L7 posted...

it's very common, grad school is much much much easier than undergrad

It's very common mostly because there's been a giant filtering mechanism.

For PhD, the classes are secondary anyway though. So you're mostly just trying to strike the right balance of effort so you get an A bur no more than that. In my case, a couple of the classes taken 1st year were exam based, but then the rest were either partcipation based (you would lead a seminar about x y and z papers) or final project based.
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

"May" is the operative word here.

Harping on hedge words in science is stupid bullshit. Don't fall into stupid bullshit.

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

fat people just have a negative amount of self-control

A while back I looked into the actual literature on this, and to the extent to which there's a difference between controls and obese people on measures of "self control" it's tiny. And that's in controled laboratory studies of it. Seems unlikely that a global self control issue is at hand here.
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LightHawKnight posted...

I just asked does fat acceptance make kids or hell anyone lose weight?

How does that relate to the topic at hand?

The only way you get there is if you think that by denouncing bullying you must now take part in "fat acceptance".
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LightHawKnight posted...

Jumping to conclusions there. Where did I say fat shaming is good? I just asked does fat acceptance make kids lose weight.

You being the generic you.

Like I said, you don't have to support HAES to denounce bullying.
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Kolibri X posted...

Most people gain weight as they get older. Mindblowing.

That's not what they found. Or more specifically, not only what they found and isn't the result that is the focus of the paper.
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BlameAnesthesia posted...

While I don't think fat shaming is effective or morally acceptable, there is a fine line between expressing genuine concern, or informing someone of the negative health effects of their current weight, and having those statements be construed as shaming, bullying, criticism, etc.

I don't know, if you're not a person's doctor, in general it's usually taken pretty poorly if you comment on someone's behavior or health. Even with smoking, which has fallen out of favor, people typically won't just go up to someone smoking and tell them that they are smoking cancer sticks. It seems like explicitly offering unwanted medical advice against someone's behavior, will be taken poorly, regardless as to what it is.

"Concern" in these cases is not concern, it's judgement and shame, most of the time.

A person's doctor telling them that they are concerned about their weight/diet, however, is an entirely different story.
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RebelElite791 posted...

It's so funny that TC is such a logical, sensible person on so many subjects yet constantly whines about CICO not being a thing. Makes you wonder.

Interesting that you distort my argument =).

I never said CICO isn't a thing, just that it's not an actual solution to the obesity issue. The issue is that behavior change in energy intake behaviors is incredibly hard. People who simply spout CICO without any thought, are almost always the same people who simply think that obese people are dumb. That they just don't understand that they are eating so much, or that it's a fundamental character flaw, that they simply are gluttonous.

The issue is that behavioral control of food intake is a complex and multifaceted beast, which is why there are still thousand and thousands of scientists working on it every day. Unfortunately, an internet science bro talking about CICO and the 1st law of thermodynamics hasn't solved the field.
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ChocoboMogALT posted...

Personal experience time: go into a Walmart or McD's and look for overweight kids, then compare to the parents. You will almost always find a family that has WAY too much high calorie food.

On a related note: why are people blaming the kids? It's almost definitely the parents' fault for feeding and enabling the situation.

Not just behavior/learning though, biological set points are important to consider, a child born to an overweight parent is likely going to have an dysregulated hypothalmic control column.

The biology of energy intake systems is incredibly complex, pretending we point definitively to an issue and say "here it is, here is what we need to change in society to kill the cyclical process" is silly.
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