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I've seen the SNL performance of Porch before, it was pretty fucking great. It seems like a really fucking good song live.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Damn, sad I missed the finale. Would have voted for FF6.

Thanks for finishing this one out for me pfh. And sorry this one was so hectic guys, went through a lot of major life changes during the course of this one, from graduating, breaking up with my girlfriend, moving to another state and starting a new job; just kinda lost the time and motivation to keep up with this. Honestly probably should have passed it off to someone else a long time ago, this should have been done literally months ago lol.

Thanks to all of you guys who have been participating in these, whether it be just this one or you've been involved in these for years. (Fuck, I've been running these for actual years now, WTF lol). These were a lot of fun to manage, and i hope you guys enjoyed them as much as I did.

Calling it quits on running these indefinitely. If I get my life sorted out a little better, maybe I'll start them back up again, but that likely wont be for a very long time.

Again, thank you guys so much for participating in these. It's been a blast.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Junkhead is fantastic.

Nirvana tomorrow.

For realisiez this time.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Dam, peeps weren't feeling the Soundgarden post, huh?

I bet it's cause I forgot to do Underrated Song for them.

Clearly that's the reason
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

It's late, so I think I'll get to Nirvana tomorrow. Sorry dudes.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Soundgarden is the one that I've honestly probably listened to the least of the 4, but I have been trying to fix that. The only album I've listened to from beginning to end is Badmotorfinger, so there'll probably be some bias towards it on this write-up.

As I mentioned earlier though, I have so much respect for Cornell's singing ability. He had such an incredible voice and such talent and control over it. God I wish I could have seen him live.

I'm also gonna go ahead and include Chris Cornell's solo stuff in this write-up, since honestly there's only a couple of songs that really stand out from his solo career for me anyways. Audioslave though I'll save for a later write-up.

Soundgarden:
Best Album:

Badmotorfinger

As I mentioned earlier, it's the album I've listened to the most of, but in general I just love the sound of this album. This is where Soundgarden goes harder; don't get me wrong, I love Cornell's more ballad-esque songs, and I'll eat up some Black Hole Sun all day long, but I also fucking love it when the band goes hard, and Badmotorfinger is where they go all out on that. This is just a great album to get fucking hype to. Superunknown would be my runner up, and it's also great, but usually with Soundgarden I prefer when they go hard, while Cornell's solo stuff I'm more down for the slow, moody ballads, and Badmotorfinger goes hard and never stops going hard.

10 Favorite Songs:

- Jesus Christ Pose (Badmotorfinger)
- Rusty Cage (Badmotorfinger)
- Spoonman (Superunknown)
- Blackhole Sun (Superunknown)
- Burden In My Hand (Down On The Upside)
- Blow Up The Outside World (Down On The Upside)
- Pretty Noose (Down On The Upside)
- Black Rain (Telephantasm)
- By Crooked Steps (King Animal)

Special shout outs to Loud Love, Face Pollution, and Searching With My Good Eye Closed.

I was originally gonna cheat and include a couple Cornell solo songs, but looking through my playlist I realized I knew and loved more Soundgarden songs than I thought. Also I apparently really need to listen through Down On The Upside all the way seeing that I said Badmotorfinger was my favorite album, but have more favorite songs off of Down On The Upside apparently. >_>

As far as Cornell's solo stuff goes, I fucking love his cover of Billie Jean, it's powerful as fuck.

Original solo songs, Nearly Forgot My Broken Heart, Two Drink Minimum, Can't Change Me, and Silence The Voices are all really good songs. Scream is... ok. I have it on my playlist, but it's not his best work IMO.

And of course he's responsible for the best James Bond theme song, You Know My Name, which in and of itself is a fantastic track.

Overall thoughts:
I need to listen to them more. I've really only fallen completely in love with them in the past year, which really sucks for obvious reasons. >_> From what I have listened, they do have some of my all time favorite grunge songs (After I do a bunch of these write-ups, I plan on doing a final write-up specifically with my all time favorite grunge songs combined from all the different bands discussed).They're just a really damn good band, and Cornell is absolutely one of the best singes to have ever lived IMO.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Soundgarden's up next.
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PatrickMahomes posted...

Headache because you pretty much have to stop doing whatever you're doing or it'll just get worse. I get how toothache is popular, but with that, at least you can still watch TV or play video games or do something to try and distract yourself. Trying to do anything with a headache is only going to make it worse.

This is basically my reasoning; you can power through a tootache, but if a headache gets bad enough it can render you useless
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Work Lunch Break Bump
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

I've heard a bit of The Melvins, they're decent but never quite vibed with me like the others.

I'll be sure to check out Acid Bath later.
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EverDownward posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

That's a good way of putting it. Like I mentioned earlier though, despite probably having some of the darkest subject mater in their songs overall, they still didn't feel like they were ever wallowing in it as much as the other bands. Like, Black in a lot of ways is a song about self pity; AiC doesn't really have songs like that. Their approach to their subject matter isn't about being sad about these miserable things, it's more of an apathy, yet is still passionate. It's such a unique and strange tone that I don't think any other band has truly captured. It's some powerful shit, man,

Yeah, I can see what you're saying. Alice certainly felt more nihilistic than the other major three on the scene. They were arguably the outlier, too. Pretty sure you mentioned they were pretty different from the others, and I'd agree. They were more metal, that's for sure.

I never meant to imply they were wallowing in their misery, necessarily, just that it seemed like every grunge group was writing about subject material that was considerably heavier and somber than the metal scene of the 80s that came before it was offering.

Yeah, for sure. I feel like that was Grunge's big hook in a lot of ways, that they tackled these dark, heavy subjects with such passion and gusto, not holding back for anything or anyone. That kind of passion and straightforwardness is appealing to a lot of people, and I feel like that's a big part of why grunge became as huge as it did.

Ok, actually bed time now. More write ups tomorrow.
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EverDownward posted...

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EverDownward posted...

I still think one of PJ's best tracks is their cover of Wayne Cochran's "Last Kiss." Holy shit, what an amazing fucking rendition.

Gonna be real; that's probably the only PJ track I can't stand. >_>

IDK what it is, but I just cant stand it. It's one of the only PJ songs not on my grunge playlist; I took it off because I just ended up skipping it anytime it came on.

It's definitely not grunge, but there's something about Eddie's voice that really, really lends to tragedy and he hits the emotions like a sledgehammer. I admit, it took me a few listens before I really got into it, but it's one of my favorite PJ songs now.

THat's a fair point about Eddie's voice; I think that's why Black, Jeremy, and even to a lesser extent Daughter are such powerful songs; Eddie's voice really brings those tragic moments to life.

IDK, maybe I'll give it another shot. It's just so different from pretty much anything else they've done, and it hard core throws me off.

The last Pearl Jam album I owned was Rearviewmirror, and I was fortunate enough that it separated the tracks into an "up" side and a "down" side - where the bangers and rockers were on the up side, and the ballads and somber tracks were on the down side. Naturally, I took to the down side much more. I was gonna ask if you're big into their more melancholic stuff, but it looks like you enjoy their heavy stuff more. I was even gonna mention "Off He Goes," but it's not even in your top ten lol.

I do like Black, though. Ten is a good album, a good watershed album for what Pearl Jam would pretty much offer in the later years - brooding heaviness tinged with the operatic tones of Eddie's booming voice. I guess I've just always associated Pearl Jam with, and as being, the 'sad' grunge group even though each of the major four were arguably 'sad.'

Yeah, I like a lot of their slower and more somber tracks, but overall I think I like Pearl Jam best when they go hard. Which is interesting, cause for Alice In Chains it's almost the opposite. Sure, God Smack is a banger, but Down In A Hole and Rain When I Die are their more somber, downer songs and they're arguably my 2 favorites. I guess I prefer AiC when they go somber, but Pearl Jam I like better when they go all out and rock it.

I definitely agree on Alice when they go soft, it's really on an entirely different level. Brother (Unplugged) in particular tears me to pieces. There's a break partway through when it's just Layne and Jerry singing and it's gutwrenching. Alice in general had this air of doom about them, like they were perpetually seeing a dark, black train coming for them miles away. And their music reflected that. Jesus, what a great group.

That's a good way of putting it. Like I mentioned earlier though, despite probably having some of the darkest subject mater in their songs overall, they still didn't feel like they were ever wallowing in it as much as the other bands. Like, pearl Jam's Black in a lot of ways is a song about self pity; AiC doesn't really have songs like that. Their approach to their subject matter isn't about being sad about these miserable things, it's more of an apathy, yet is still passionate. It's such a unique and strange tone that I don't think any other band has truly captured. It's some powerful shit, man.
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EverDownward posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

EverDownward posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

EverDownward posted...

I still think one of PJ's best tracks is their cover of Wayne Cochran's "Last Kiss." Holy shit, what an amazing fucking rendition.

Gonna be real; that's probably the only PJ track I can't stand. >_>

IDK what it is, but I just cant stand it. It's one of the only PJ songs not on my grunge playlist; I took it off because I just ended up skipping it anytime it came on.

It's definitely not grunge, but there's something about Eddie's voice that really, really lends to tragedy and he hits the emotions like a sledgehammer. I admit, it took me a few listens before I really got into it, but it's one of my favorite PJ songs now.

THat's a fair point about Eddie's voice; I think that's why Black, Jeremy, and even to a lesser extent Daughter are such powerful songs; Eddie's voice really brings those tragic moments to life.

IDK, maybe I'll give it another shot. It's just so different from pretty much anything else they've done, and it hard core throws me off.

The last Pearl Jam album I owned was Rearviewmirror, and I was fortunate enough that it separated the tracks into an "up" side and a "down" side - where the bangers and rockers were on the up side, and the ballads and somber tracks were on the down side. Naturally, I took to the down side much more. I was gonna ask if you're big into their more melancholic stuff, but it looks like you enjoy their heavy stuff more. I was even gonna mention "Off He Goes," but it's not even in your top ten lol.

I do like Black, though. Ten is a good album, a good watershed album for what Pearl Jam would pretty much offer in the later years - brooding heaviness tinged with the operatic tones of Eddie's booming voice. I guess I've just always associated Pearl Jam with, and as being, the 'sad' grunge group even though each of the major four were arguably 'sad.'

Yeah, I like a lot of their slower and more somber tracks, but overall I think I like Pearl Jam best when they go hard. Which is interesting, cause for Alice In Chains it's almost the opposite. Sure, God Smack is a banger, but Down In A Hole and Rain When I Die are their more somber, downer songs and they're arguably my 2 favorites. I guess I prefer AiC when they go somber, but Pearl Jam I like better when they go all out and rock it.

Off He Goes is good though, but Smile is definitely my favorite off of No Code.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

I have work in the morning so I think I'm gonna stop here for tonight, will type up my thoughts for Soundgarden and hopefully Nirvana tomorrow after work, and then see who else I wanna talk about when I get to that point. (Bush and Stone Temple Pilots are almost for sure gonna happen)
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

EverDownward posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

EverDownward posted...

I still think one of PJ's best tracks is their cover of Wayne Cochran's "Last Kiss." Holy shit, what an amazing fucking rendition.

Gonna be real; that's probably the only PJ track I can't stand. >_>

IDK what it is, but I just cant stand it. It's one of the only PJ songs not on my grunge playlist; I took it off because I just ended up skipping it anytime it came on.

It's definitely not grunge, but there's something about Eddie's voice that really, really lends to tragedy and he hits the emotions like a sledgehammer. I admit, it took me a few listens before I really got into it, but it's one of my favorite PJ songs now.

THat's a fair point about Eddie's voice; I think that's why Black, Jeremy, and even to a lesser extent Daughter are such powerful songs; Eddie's voice really brings those tragic moments to life.

IDK, maybe I'll give it another shot. It's just so different from pretty much anything else they've done, and it hard core throws me off.
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EverDownward posted...

I still think one of PJ's best tracks is their cover of Wayne Cochran's "Last Kiss." Holy shit, what an amazing fucking rendition.

Gonna be real; that's probably the only PJ track I can't stand. >_>

IDK what it is, but I just cant stand it. It's one of the only PJ songs not on my grunge playlist; I took it off because I just ended up skipping it anytime it came on.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

Chris Cornell may be the best overall singer IMO, but Layne Staley's voice was super fucking powerful for completely different reasons. Cornell had that deep, sultry sound combined with his power belting, while Staley just had such an edge to his sound; it's hard to describe. Dirt has some really fucking dark subject matter, yet unlike most of the other bands, Staley never sounds like he's wallowing in it. He sounds like he's just stating facts while he sings, which makes the circumstances around his death all the more depressing.

Well, now that we got into the depressing shit, let's talk favorite albums and songs.

Alice In Chains:
Best Album:
Dirt

Their first 3 albums are amazing, not to mention their Jar of Flies EP, but I have to go with Dirt for this one. If Ten is a perfect Album, Dirt is right behind it. It has some powerful fucking lyrics, riffs, and amazing vocals from Staley, as well as a very smooth, seamless transition between most of the tracks.

This is a real easy album to get lost in, it's happened a couple of times where I've been chilling somewhere with my headphones in and have just completely lost track of time and ended up listening to over half the album when I only meant to listen to a couple of songs. Facelift and Alice In Chains (Album) both deserve love too, but while they each have some amazing songs, Dirt feels like a complete package.

10 Favorite Songs:
- Down In A Hole (Dirt)
- Rain When I Die (Dirt)
- Man In The Box (Facelift)
- Godsmack (Dirt)
- Sea Of Sorrow (Facelift)
- I Stay Away (Jar Of Flies)
- Junkhead (Dirt)
- Heaven Beside You (Alice In Chains)
- Would? (Dirt)
- The One You Know (Rainier Fog)

Now I know what you're thinking; "Wow, that's a lot of Dirt.... But no Rooster or Angry Chair? Wait WTF, that's a song from one of their post-Staley albums, but no fucking Rooster or Angry Chair?!?!"

Those are both great songs, and I love them both, but as much as they were 2 of their biggest hits, I feel like they're actually 2 of the only songs that don't feel like they fit the rest of the album as well. Still fantastic songs on their own, but when you have stuff like Down In A Hole and Rain When I Die... IDK, they just don't hold up as well to me in a full album listen-through.

Also, The One You Know is actually a pretty damn great song, and for being William DuVall and Jerry Cantrell on vocals, it really feels like classic Alice In Chains to me. It's a damn good song.

A special mention also goes to Them Bones, solely for its opening. Fucking love that opening.

Most Underrated song:
God Smack

I fucking love this song; the opening quitar riff, Staley's more uncontrolled, unregulated vocals in the opening, the powerful chorus; it's a dope as fuck song and deserves more love.

Overall Thoughts:
Great band, and arguably the most distinct/different sounding of the Big 4. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam share a lot of similarity in terms of general style, at least in their early albums, and Nirvana, while being substantially different from those two, you can still hear enough similarities to at least safely classify them in the same genre. If Alice In Chains hadn't been from Seattle, they never would have been classified as grunge tbh. Stone Temple Pilots share more similarities with the other 3 than they do, and even they have their detractors saying they shouldn't count as grunge.

Also, special shout out to Mad Season, which Staley also did the vocals for; It was a one off project so IDK if there's enough there for me to make a whole separate post about, but if you like Staley's vocals absolutely check out Mad Season, he really plays around with it a ton there and it's a lot of fun to hear.
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EverDownward posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

EverDownward posted...

Neat, you're kinda doing the thing I plan on doing at some point. It's not the same, but you've definitely got a love for music so I appreciate this sort of indepth geeking out over it.

lol, thanks man. IDK what it is, but ever since I discovered grunge a few years ago it just really vibed with me and I've somehow become super passionate about it lol.

What is it you plan on doing later on?

So, like last year or the year before I did a "7 Days of EBM" topic where I posted a song from the EBM genre each day and posted a little snippet of info about said band. I plan on doing that with other genres relatively soon. I'd been wanting to do it for a while, but I just haven't been able to muster the enthusiasm until recently.

Ooh, that sounds like a fun time. Tag me when you start that back up, I'd be interested in reading through it.

As for this topic, up next is Alice in Chains.
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BlazinBlue88 posted...

No Code and Riot Act are my favorite albums from PJ. I still can't get into Lightning Bolt. It just seems so bland despite the live versions of the songs being excellent.

They're both great albums; Riot Act is great but it has such a different vibe from the rest of their albums though that I have to be in the right mood for it. Not a lot of headbangers, and a lot of the lyrics are depressing even by Pearl Jam/Grunge standards. >_>

No Code has been growing on me a lot lately, I gave it another full listen a couple weeks ago and it really jelled with me this time around.
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EverDownward posted...

Neat, you're kinda doing the thing I plan on doing at some point. It's not the same, but you've definitely got a love for music so I appreciate this sort of indepth geeking out over it.

lol, thanks man. IDK what it is, but ever since I discovered grunge a few years ago it just really vibed with me and I've somehow become super passionate about it lol.

What is it you plan on doing later on?
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First up, Pearl Jam, not only my favorite band, but also my favorite grunge band.

Pearl Jam:
Best Album:
Ten
Ten is definitely their strongest album, no question; it's practically a perfect album IMO, and it's the album that got me into the genre to begin with.

That being said, Vs. is fantastic as well, and Vitalogy has some amazing content; their biggest hang ups is it doesn't flow together nearly as well as Ten, although in Vitalogy's case that works given that in a lot of ways it was an excuse to play around and do some experimental, weird shit like Stupid Mop and Bugs (both are worth listening to if you're down for some weird as fuck sounding shit.)

Yield, No Code, and Riot Act are solid albums as well, and Backspacer is a lot of fun, but feels way too short. Binaural and Lightning Bolt are probably their weakest albums, but even then they each have some solid songs sprinkled in, and Binaural has slowly been growing on me lately. Pearl Jam (The Avocado Album) is solid, but the only song that really stood out to me was World Wide Suicide

Favorite Songs:
I considered doing a top 10, but that's tough as fuck, so I'm just gonna post Ten (heh, album pun) of my favorite PJ songs in a random order.

- Jeremy (Ten)
- Do The Evolution (Yield)
- Daughter (Vs.)
- Smile (No Code)
- Brother (Ten Redux)
- Rats (Vs.)
- Better Man (Vitalogy)
- Just A Girl (Ten Redux)
- Black (Ten)
- Once (Ten)

Unsurprisingly, lots of stuff off of Ten. There were a couple close calls though; Why Go, Bu$hleaguer, and Glorrified G all were typed at one point or another while I was make this list, ultimately pulled them though, but they're essentially the runner-ups.

Most Underrated Song:
Dirty Frank (Even Flow (Single) B-Side)

It's a weird as fuck song, but it's one of the only songs where it sounds like the band is just legit fucking around and having fun. They're a grunge band, of course they're gloomy and gritty a good chunk of the time, but this is just a goofy, fun song about their bus driver being a cannibal. It's great, check it out.

Overall thoughts:
I fucking love this band. I understand that they're not for everyone; Eddie Vedder's style is.... unique, to say the last. But he sings with just such raw passion and energy that it all works for me. Sure, he cant enunciate to save his life, but he doesn't need to tbh. His unique sound is what makes them stand out, and their lyricism is my favorite of the grunge bands, by far. They're the band that got me into grunge, and they're still the band I listen to the most out of all of them.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

I'm bored and really, really like grunge, so I'm gonna talk about some of my favorite songs and such from grunge bands. Obviously gonna start with the Big 4, then probably do some Stone Temple Pilots, Bush, Mother Love Bone, and whoever else I feel like I've listened to enough to talk about.

I think I'm gonna go a post at a time, one band at a time, each one saying my favorite album from the band, my favorite song(s), and any other random ramblings I have at the moment.

While I'm typing up these needlessly long posts, feel free to talk about your favorite grunge and grunge-esque band, songs, albums, etc. as well. Shit, throw around some dope rock songs in general, I don't care, and I am always down to listen to new shit.

Some basic statements to start this off:
Pearl Jam > Alice In Chains > Soundgarden > Nirvana

As far as singers alone though:
Chris Cornell > Layne Staley > Eddie Vedder > Kurt Cobain
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I'm intrigued.

I got AMC A-List recently, might watch it as one of my 3 "free" movies for this upcoming week.
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"She was like, 'Oh, did you see that firefighter? Hes so cute.' And I was like, Mom, I just got blown up."

If I've never seen a CHild's Play movie, is this worth a watch?

I'm a big film/horror film guy, I love Mark Hammil, and am very sexually attracted to Aubrey Plaza, if any of that helps. >_>
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Nidhoggr posted...

Difference between censored and people just deciding to not include certain scenes in their film.

Except most of these cases were the higher ups in studios forcing them to make the cuts, not the directors of the films.

Nice try though.
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Censorship is awful, and those scenes shouldn't have been cut.

They tried to cut down the amount of gay sex scenes in fucking Rocketman, and that's fucking bullshit. Elton John's sex and love life was a very important part of the film's narrative, cutting those scenes would have been detrimental to the entirety of the film.

Censorship sucks ass.
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Expected, but made me lol regardless.
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Zelda_Aran posted...

I agree, Chris Cornell was amazing. The opening to Burden in my Hand comes to mind, for starters.

Burden In My Hand is fucking fantastic, that opening, hnnnnngggg.

Feline_Heart posted...

pfh1001 posted...

iToro86 posted...

One of the best vocalists of all time, best from the grunge genre.

I'm not sure who disagrees with this, but they're wrong if they do.

Agreed. I like Vedder & Staley both a lot too. Cobain is incredibly over rated.

I hate Eddie Vedders voice and Pearl Jams music in general. Contain definitely wasnt a good singer but theres some weird quality about his voice that works perfectly with the music that Nirvana was making. I like it

I get why not everyone is into Pearl Jam, but I love how distinctive Eddie's voice is, and he's jsut so passionate when he sings, you can feel the emotion, especially on tracks like Black. I think the fact that you can hear and feel that passion in their songs is why I love Pearl Jam so much, that and their lyricism is the best of the Grunge bands IMO.

And that's fair about Cobain. He's arguably the "worst" singer of the 4 grunge bands IMO, but as you said, his voice just kinda works for what they were doing.

stone posted...

WafflehouseJK posted...

I'm so sad I never got a chance to see him live.

That's too bad.. :(
Saw Soundgarden live the summer before at a music festival nearby.. It was great, they did most of their big hits and a song or two of the last album. Matt wasn't there because he was on tour with Pearl Jam, but whoever was there did a good job on the drums. (I think it was Pearl Jam's very first drummer, the one they recorded Ten with but who left before it got released)

Dave Krusen or Matt Chamberlain?

Man, I would have fucking loved to see Soundgarden live.
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Shotgunnova posted...

He had the best chops, but I still prefer Mark Lanegan in a lot of situations.

I do like his voice; I haven't heard nearly enough Screaming Trees though. The only 2 songs on my giant Grunge playlist are Nearly Lost You and Dollar Bill. I need to look into them more.
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Feline_Heart posted...

Id say that Johnny Gioeli from Hardline, Axel Rudi Pell, and Crush 40 has the perfect voice for rock music

His voice reminds me a lot of Bon Jovi.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

I agree 100% the man had a brilliant voice, and an amazing rock sound.

It's hard to believe he's been gone for over two years already.

I'm so sad I never got a chance to see him live.

I found out that he actually performed just an hour away from where I was freshman year of college, but that was when I'd only just really started getting into grunge so I didn't even hear about it.

Sucks. :(

LookANinja posted...

My Chef Drummer friend's two biggest inspirations were Chris Cornell and Anthony Bourdain. I wonder how he's doing nowadays.

Oof. That's rough.
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iToro86 posted...

One of the best vocalists of all time, best from the grunge genre.

I'm not sure who disagrees with this, but they're wrong if they do.

There's a lot of die hard Cobain fans who lose their shit anytime I mention this.

Cobain was great, but he didn't have anywhere close to the range Cornell had, especially when you factor in Cornell's power belting. Cobain doesn't come even close in that regard.

And I love Vedder, Pearl Jam's my favorite band of all time, but although he has the power and emotion down in his singing, his inability to enunciate hurts him, and his range just isn't as impressive as Cornell's.
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Autocraticus posted...

You dont have to convince me. He was my favorite singer out of the grunge era.

I wasnt a fan of most of his later work in his career but I love this song

I feel like his lyricism wasn't quite as on par with the other grunge songwriters; that being said, he still wrote some amazing stuff, even if his solo stuff was a little weaker, and he never lost his powerful sound, which was always his greatest strength.

Just heard his cover of Billie Jean for the first time, his voice gives me fucking chills.

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@MabusIncarnate
@ledbowman
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I'd argue he's one of the best singers of all time.

Obviously this is subjective as fuck, but that man's vocal range and talent with it was fucking phenomenal. Don't get me wrong, I love Cobain and Vedder, but strictly in terms of singing ability, they don't come close to the sheer, raw talent Cornell had.

I think the only grunge singer that even holds a candle to Cornell was probably Layne Staley. Very different sound, but was incredibly powerful in his own right.

As far as greatest singer of all time, obviously he has some stiff competition, and saying he's the absolute best without question would be silly, but honestly, I'd put him up there in the same tier as Freddie Mercury, Elvis, Micheal Jackson, etc.

Discuss.
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FF6
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Gafemage posted...

Why don't people ever give preferred genres, personal favorite movies, etc. for reference when they make these topics

This;

you did later specify drama with some thrill, so:

Menento
The Prestige
Get Out (More of a thriller than drama, but still)
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ITT: People misunderstand the difference between evolution and adaptation.

This is on an individual generation level, affecting individual people as a direct result of an outside stimuli within their own, singular life time. That's adaptation.

If this continues on for several generations and becomes a predominant feature of most or all humans, and the neck horn develops at birth instead of forming over the course of life due to that outside stimuli, then it'll be evolution.
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Damn, sad to see Silent Hill 2 go, but 9th ain't bad at all.

Chrono Trigger
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Final Fantasy 6
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Silent Hill 2
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It's terrible and is strangling the life out of the film industry.
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Silent Hill 2
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The Witcher 3
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Silent Hill 2

Thanks for taking over man, I feel like this wasn't gonna get finished otherwise.
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Watch new for you movies. Expand your artistic horizons
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Go for it man, you got it. Finish it off strong.
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Silent Hill 2

If someone wants to take this over for the last few rounds, they're welcome to. I just haven't had the time or motivation to keep up with these lately, and I'm sorry about that guys. If no one wants to I'll try my best to power through and get us to the end, but this is definitely the last Save That I run indefinitely.

Save That Video Game Character is still on the table if anyone wants to take that over as well.
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CE has nominated 100 different video games of all types and genres. Now, it's time for them to fight it out and determine CE's favorite video game!

Rule Change:
You can save 1 video games per hour. Video Games now need 3 saves from 3 different users to make it to the next round. The last game remaining gets eliminated, rinse and repeat.

Please do not delete your posts in this topic.

No alts.

Endangered:
Bioshock: Infinite
Chrono Trigger
Fallout New Vegas
Final Fantasy 6
Final Fantasy X
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
LA Noire
Mass Effect 2
Persona 3
Red Dead Redemption
Resident Evil 4
Rock Band 3
Silent Hill 2
Suikoden 2
Tekken 3
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The Witcher 3

Eliminated:
100. Bloodborne
99. Space Quest IV
98. Megaman Battle Network 3
97. Metroid Prime
96. Spider-Man
95. EverQuest
94. Halo 3
93. Jet Force Gemini
92. StarTropics
91. Ace Combat 7
90. Pokemon Red/Blue
89. Dead by Daylight
88. Streets of Rage 2
87. Sid Meyer's Civilization V
86. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
85. Rance - Hikari o Motomete
84. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
83. Maniac Mansion
82. F.E.A.R.
81. Left 4 Dead 2
80. Halo
79. Duke Nukem 3D
78. Mega Man 9
77. Shadow of the Colossus
76. Excitebike
75. Skyrim
74. Banjo Kazooie
73. Rose Guns Days
72. Deadly Premonition
71. Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
70. Super Metroid
69. Nier Automata
68. Tyranny
67. Twisted Metal 2
66. Crazy Taxi
65. Okami
64. Tomb Raider (1996)
63. Rune Factory Frontier
62. Baldur's Gate 2
61. RuneScape
60. The Last Of Us
59. Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
58. Catherine
57. Evil Within 2
56. Starfox 64
55. NBA Jam
54. System Shock 2
53. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
52. Fallout 3
51. Kingdom Hearts
50. MVP Baseball 2005
49. Call of Duty: Black Ops
48. Fatal Frame 2
47. Half-Life 2
46. Hotline Miami
45. Rune Factory Tides of Destiny
44. Killer7
43. Fire Emblem: Blazing Blade
42. Rewrite
41. Bayonetta 2
40. 999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
39. Metal Wolf Chaos
38. Let it Die
37. Tales of Symphonia
36. Persona 5
35. Dark Souls
34. Uncharted 2
33. Dragon Quest XI
32. Bioshock
31. Goldeneye 007
30. Street Fighter Alpha 3
29. Metal Gear Solid 3
28. Portal 2
27. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
26. Mass Effect 3
25. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
24. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
23. Valkyria Chronicles
22. Xenogears
21. Mass Effect
20. Tecmo Super Bowl
19. Dragon Age: Origins
18. Silent Hill
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Eliminated: Silent HIll
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