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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/10/19 1:51:08 AM
#37
NBIceman posted...

The part of your post I took issue with was saying that every heel should cheat.


In a company like WWE

I will settle for most

Many

A few

One?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/10/19 12:28:52 AM
#32
TheRock1525 posted...
OK, so my neighbor came over and shared some stories, and apparently he used to be a jobber for Jim Crockett promotions under the name "The Black Russian." I'm calling on @Jakyl25 to confirm if there was anyone that teamed up with Ivan Koloff by this name back in the 80's.


Why would a jobber be teaming with Ivan Koloff
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/10/19 12:27:00 AM
#31
NBIceman posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW).

Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys.

If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently

On the other hand, if you do that, don't expect anyone in the crowd to ever take any heels seriously.


I mean, you watch New Japan right? I ASSUME

That style of storytelling doesnt need a lot of cheaters, because its entirely based on character dynamics and lore. You can have 75% non-cheaters there.

Even then you still have Bullet Club and Suzukigun who cheat just to let you know that THESE are the real fuckwads
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:18:39 PM
#139
Also people that dont believe in reparations for slavery
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:13:30 PM
#138
Also people who support US war in the Middle East

Many of those are liberals too though
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:12:14 PM
#137
SmartMuffin posted...
Also, I know of no conservatives who believe violent crimes against brown people should go unpunished. Could you name one?


People who support the officer that murdered Tamir Rice

People who support the officer that murdered Philando Castille

Just to name the least controversial examples
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:37:37 PM
#134
SmartMuffin posted...
But that's not the argument.


Yes I know the argument and it makes sense that they think murder should be prosecuted

Were just calling them idiots and hypocritical in these beliefs that they do not apply to other situations, such as foreign wars or hate crimes against brown people

Are we out of Syria yet Donald?!?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:33:18 PM
#17
Every heel should always cheat or take some sort of technically legal shortcut like Andrade using Zelina as a shield (which is VERY much appreciated in this WWE landscape BTW).

Monster heels in squash matches are the ONE exception, but even someone like Brock should take shortcuts against legit guys.

If you dont want to do that, dont expect us to boo people consistently
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:28:51 PM
#131
But theyre factually wrong and this is why we need authoritarianism
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:19:48 PM
#129
Like, honest question, if I use a sniper rifle and kill your pet ferret, as I am wont to do, am I then on trial for murder or destruction of property?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:18:39 PM
#128
Im saying that its outside the realm of a value judgment because it doesnt involve killing humans
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:15:48 PM
#126
red sox 777 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
SmartMuffin posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Too bad abortion is just as much murder as removing your appendix.


That's not the point though, they think it is the same as murder.

You can argue that if you want, but "lol you're supposed to be in favor of small government" is an incoherent objection to anyone other than a 100% pure AnCap.

If you don't think it's hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government but also be in favor of the state prosecuting murder, then it's not hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government and also in favor of the state prosecuting things they view as equivalent to murder.


But its factually not murder


That's only because "murder" is a word that necessarily implies wrongdoing, which takes it out of the realm of the purely factual.
Replace "murder" with "killing" and it absolutely is a factual question.


Yes but killing many things is legal, just not humans except in certain circumstances

Embryos and early fetuses are not humans
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:14:43 PM
#125
SmartMuffin posted...

You know nothing about libertarians or libertarianism. SJW values have run rampant. The current chair of the LP does nothing but virtue signal all day.


Why is this? Why dont the true libertarians take a stand?
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:08:36 PM
#123
SmartMuffin posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
Too bad abortion is just as much murder as removing your appendix.


That's not the point though, they think it is the same as murder.

You can argue that if you want, but "lol you're supposed to be in favor of small government" is an incoherent objection to anyone other than a 100% pure AnCap.

If you don't think it's hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government but also be in favor of the state prosecuting murder, then it's not hypocritical for conservatives to be in favor of small government and also in favor of the state prosecuting things they view as equivalent to murder.


But its factually not murder
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:00:21 PM
#15
TheRock1525 posted...
I feel like having the Eco Warriors cheat to win leaves too much of a hanging spectre over their win and makes it feel like "shouldn't the Usos be more pissed about getting cheated out of the titles and want to try and get them again?"

I much prefer the finality of a clean win if the Usos aren't going to be on Smackdown every week.


Its more a general frustration with the lack of cheap wins in general

Baron Corbin doesnt cheat
Sami Zayn doesnt cheat

These are heels that should cheat, not just be better than most of the faces

Like, Angle CHOSE Corbin to fight at WM, lost clean, and thats supposed to make us mad at Corbin
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 5:55:49 PM
#11
I want to weigh in on the SD Tag Titles debate

I have no issue at all with a heel GM handing the vacant titles to a heel team even with no resume. Bryan is credible enough to carry it.

What I DO have an issue with is then fighting a legendary team like the Usos, who WERE the Champions a month ago, for the titles and beating them clean, basically. It proves Shane was right!

WWE HEELS NEED TO CHEAT BUT THEY DONT
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 5:27:17 PM
#10
Its funny to me that the announcers cant figure out what would happen if the Usos held a title from another brand

I dont know what brand Becky Lynch is supposed to be on now but obviously she holds one title from a brand shes not on, and shes been allowed on both shows even before the Wild Card
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 5:20:11 PM
#9
Dave said the NBA and NHL 2018-2019 regular season ratings are out. NBA viewership overall was down 4%, NHL viewership overall was down 1%.

Thats not playoffs, thats the mundane week to week stuff more comparable to WWE. Which is down 29% year to year.

So there goes that excuse
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 5:07:10 PM
#299
Vlado posted...
Because it exists. :)


Thats not a good enough answer. You need to explain further, with actual reasoning
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 483: "America's Finest" Nick Aldis
Jakyl25
05/09/19 1:24:06 PM
#8
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1126521552097480704?s=21

Reading @iamjohnpollocks WWE Business Partner Summit recap (happened Mania weekend, vid just went online) & geez these quotes are rich.

George Barrios: The women are moonsaulting right over that glass ceiling

1. Give it a few days. 2. ITS YOUR OWN GLASS CEILING. THATS BAD.


If you moonsault over a glass ceiling, wouldnt you land flat on your face?
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/09/19 9:52:55 AM
#492
From the Observer

Harper has been given no future bookings, but also wont be let out of his contract. He asked Vince McMahon if he wasnt going to be used if he could get out in November as is the contract expiration date, before WWE extended it six months based on his being out with an injury. McMahon told him to take it up with Paul Levesque, who then didnt respond to him


This sounds like a very healthy work environment
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 9:50:17 AM
#291
Vlado posted...
Because it's not real.


Why is something thats not real inherently worse than something that is?
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:29:37 AM
#288
Vlado posted...

Cattle are not human. It was a simple analogy to help you understand my point.


Maybe I should clarify that I dont mean the using humans as batteries part of The Matrix. I agree that part is bad. The Matrix exists outside of that though. You can choose to go in and live an easy life and no one will slaughter you or use you as cattle. Why is that bad?
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:26:43 AM
#287
Vlado posted...

There are countless such things. (But I explained, anyway.)


You should question more and declare less
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 8:02:15 AM
#285
Also, bold stance suggesting we should free all cattle so they have better lives

Eco-Activist Vlado!
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:58:13 AM
#284
Yes you do need to explain why. There is no such thing as a self-evident truth.
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TopicNationalist politics topic 15: The "Russian collusion" was a hoax!
Jakyl25
05/09/19 7:51:58 AM
#282
Vlado posted...

And? It's the way the world works. You aren't in the matrix, you can't expect life to be easy 100% of the time.


You say this but you also say being in the Matrix is bad
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/08/19 10:50:39 PM
#491
SmartMuffin posted...
Just here to let you all know that Pierre McGuire, aka the most hated announcer in all of hockey, has started using "vintage," and it fills me with rage.


Hey, hockey beat SD last night in the ratings!
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/08/19 10:37:07 PM
#488
This weeks Raw and SD really make me think WWE has given up on the idea of pushing women
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/08/19 11:06:12 AM
#85
Executive Privilege
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 7:32:09 PM
#413
Its not even correct on technicality though

How was the Seth vs Kofi match not a true WWE title match?
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 6:23:06 PM
#410
Last week was the third lowest rated Raw ever, but this week was only the FOURTH lowest rated Raw ever

SUCCESS
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 5:04:53 PM
#409
+80k average from last week

Roman equals RATINGz
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 4:29:47 PM
#407
Ratings!

2.47M
2.24M
2.02M

Ever so slightly up from last week
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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 224: The Congressional Contempt for Political Buggery
Jakyl25
05/07/19 4:23:48 PM
#67
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1125792876187746305?s=21

Trump is goading us to impeach him, Pelosi said this morning, saying doing so would solidify his base


Congratulations, you played yourself
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 3:14:16 AM
#388
Okay so its clear that the STORYLINE is that this Wild Card rule is stupid BS from Vince that inconsistently changes on his whim

But still, WHY?
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 3:01:22 AM
#387
Scott Dawson deserves an Emmy for his Ucey Hot selling
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 2:02:05 AM
#381
I have to post this in Discord and here, Im so mad

OMFG how did no one remark on this quote from Raw?

Cole: Ricochet told me that everyone always said he would never make money in sports entertainment, but now, if he wins Money in the Bank, maybe he WILL make money here in WWE!

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COMPANY! WHY ARE THEIR STARS SUCH CHUMPS!
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 12:51:37 AM
#379
TheRock1525 posted...
I heard Firefly Fun House involved one puppet eating another puppet.


https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/1125578855949856769?s=21

So the buzzard is taking after MBS.


Did...did MBS eat Jamal Khashoggi?
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 12:27:05 AM
#377
TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 12:22:25 AM
#376
https://twitter.com/wweuniverse/status/1125588212309565440?s=21

How will Vince humiliate The Revival is now probably the most entertaining part of the show
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/07/19 12:19:09 AM
#375
Eddv posted...
Tom Bombadil posted...
Eddv posted...
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1125553758732111873?s=19

I am unreasonably upset about this


"unreasonably"


Well like.... I think Brand Sep is poison.

But argh.


I dont like the Brand Split either, but if youre gonna do it, then fucking do it
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 8:20:13 PM
#345
So WWEs solution is just to continue the Superstar Shakeup forever
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 8:03:14 PM
#342
Yeah I just have to frame it as both at their most violent
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 7:54:34 PM
#339
I am really kind of turned off by Pentagon vs Owens

Like it doesnt appeal to me at all for some reason
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 7:51:10 PM
#337
By my judgment, Ring of Honor is the winner!

Top 5 most anticipated matches:

1.) Tanahashi/Nakamura vs KENTA/Marufuji
2.) Takagi vs Castagnoli
3.) Blanchard vs Flair
4.) Wyatts vs New Day vs Broken Hardys
5.) Strong vs Scurll
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 6:55:09 PM
#334
The next Takeover is called Takeover XXV

Theyre too ashamed to call it Takeover Bridgeport, CT
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 5:20:24 PM
#330
PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
So usually I watch Raw and SmackDown until I've eaten dinner and such and then do something more entertaining.

They announced Roman will be on Raw in order to defy the McMahons, and in this act of defiance it's announced he's opening the show.

I think I'm skipping Raw entirely.


Hey dont worry, they fired a writer

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/exclusives/exclusive-lead-wwe-raw-writer-fired-why-it-happened

Apparently he took it too personally when Vince would change his work all the time?
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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 11:15:52 AM
#312
https://www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/xfl-announces-tv-deals-espn-and-fox-sports-283126

The football league announced Monday that ESPN and Fox Sports will share in broadcast rights for the entire regular season and playoffs with games on ABC, Fox, ESPN, ESPN2, and FS1 both Saturdays and Sundays.

Kicking off in 2020, opening day will be on February 8 with the championship game scheduled for Sunday, April 26.


"The networks are not paying a rights fee, but ESPN and Fox are picking up production costs, which generally amount to around $400,000 per game, sources said. As part of the deal, the nets will sell ads around the game; the XFL will handle sponsorships at the venue. ESPN and Fox will hold streaming rights to XFL games. The two nets also will cross-promote games during game broadcasts."

At 43 games, that adds up to roughly $17.2 million.

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TopicThe All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Warrior Raiding Experience Machine: Part 482
Jakyl25
05/06/19 11:12:12 AM
#310
If you get ROH are you trying to build a roster that fits 2019 ROH? <_<
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