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Also obviously looking at the list, the 360 is b/c with a lot more games
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Thats a fair assessment
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If red sox and I have taught you anything, its that you should never be afraid to make a post that might be ignored
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Espeon posted...

Congress is a popular vote as well.

Its not a popular vote at a nationwide level though

Districts are such that the Dems could win the nationwide House popular vote but still lose the chamber
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red sox 777 posted...

The nation expresses itself through the Electoral College.

And through gerrymandering of course m

Like in the 2018 Senate elections. Almost 18 million more votes were cast for Dems than for Republicans, but the GOP gained two seats
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Nah I think if its B/C you pop in the disc and it has to download it

Could be wrong
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Wanglicious posted...

i just think conservatives have 1) a better grasp of what's more popular on a national level,

Not really though? They dont really win popular votes nationwide
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Lance Archer is a great pick

Did not see any 2018 ELP. Was he bad?
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I know that's what they did for alcohol and I guess it's vaguely justifiable from a drunk driving perspective, but is that same tactic used for smoking? It makes no sense to me why any local government would feel the need to raise it beyond age 19.

This is a pretty big flex because I would assume 18-20 vape enthusiasts lean right
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

How in the world does the federal government have authority to raise the smoking age?

Mitch finds a way

Party of personal freedom everyone
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Wanglicious posted...

exactly what he said, age for cigs is raised to 21. sales of tobacco, e-cigs, and vaping all go up to that age in nine months.

Just in time for back to school!
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Eddv posted...

Let's bump this with a discussion of Most Improved

Who is sticking out to people?

Immediately coming to my mind is the Rock n Roll Express and Ricky Morton in particular.

I also think Juice Robinson post haircut has shown marked improvement

Purely based on 2018 performance vs 2019 performance, its either Moxley or Taichi
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Trump supporters (and Im not saying Wang is one, but we both know he spends a lot of time congregating with them for some reasonnot sarcasm), are utterly convinced Ivanka has 2024 on lock.

You mean 20XX after Donald decides to abdicate
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Wanglicious posted...

i'd honestly expect to see this out of conservatives first so be careful what you wish for.

Lol who, Haley?
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Unsolicited.
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Wanglicious posted...

all of it's pretty accurate.
yes, the dems impeached him and the very next day gave him almost $800 billion for a defense bill.
and passed a trillion dollar trade deal.
and renewed the patriot act along the way.

the whole process has continued to be in his favor and given him a ton of talking points that he'll use in re-election.

What is the thing about cigarette age?
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I get texts from the Bernie campaign.

They ask me who Im supporting, I say either Warren or Bernie, and ask them to sell me on Bernie

They then asked me who I supported in the 2016 Primary and I said Bernie

Then they said Great! So can we count on you to volunteer?
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How much of this is accurate
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I only get more progressive as I get older and more secure
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red sox 777 posted...

The Democratic Party is finished. They have gotten so deep into identity politics that they cannot escape.

You forgot the official Trumpian nomenclature. Its the Democrat Party
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See you would have known all of that already if you just follow Full Throttles topics

That flag was indeed hot
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I hate that Xi has to drag Poohs name through the mud.

Now all the people want to call him Pooh because he hates it, but Pooh doesnt deserve that comparison.
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Corrik7 posted...

That's a problem. Desecrating the American Flag should definitely not be fine and should be criminal. I consider it no less than desecrating the graves of your family.

Do you think it should be a crime to desecrate the graves of your family if you own the burial plot?
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Wanglicious posted...

it's a fairly meaningless comparison.
try to even it out.

scenario 1: single dude outside gay bar burning an LGBT flag
scenario 2: group of hooded/masked people explicitly against a man's race outside a black man's house burning a cross

now try evening them out until the two threats are similar to each other. for starters the latter has a clear direct threat against an individual and it's their home - this is way more dangerous of a situation. a group of people, also way more dangerous. you're going from level 10 to level 80 real fucking quick between these two and this is obvious by the fact that if you were to mix up the second situation's specifics to the first it would be so, so much worse.

one guy outside a gay bar burning a flag is a lot less threatening than one guy outside a gay man's house burning a flag; one guy outside a gay bar burning a flag is a lot less threatening than a bunch of masked men from a known, violent anti-LGBT group just protesting outside said gay bar. just changing one aspect of that comparison changes the extremity of the situation and the threat level so much that you can't consider them in the same league. let alone adding both of them. it was just a terrible comparison to make. that's all.

Okay I see where we are getting crossed up

Youre really hammering hard the concept of potential to escalate, and in that sense, I agree with every word youre saying

In the moment though, I dont feel any safer knowing theres one guy outside who wants me dead than I would knowing there were 100 guys outside who want me dead, assuming both threats were equally as credible

But yes, the hooded collective is a much bigger issue at large left unchecked
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Corrik7 posted...

So you see why Anti-zionism can be anti-Semitic and now understand why I said anti-Semitism is rising on the left due to anti-zionism campaigns used to harass the Jewish population on campuses then? Right?

Was I one of the ones arguing with you that it wasnt? My concern with the (presumptuous) wording of the Trump administrations actions was that it would equate ALL anti-Zionism as anti-Semitic hate crime
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Dancedreamer posted...

Vaccinations. Medical treatment. Foster Care Protections, Family Leave... healthcare. Way too many areas to be honest.

Oh fuck okay, I was only thinking of religious practices within the church. Thanks

Most of that when applied to children of religious families is bullshit.
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Corrik7 posted...

So you agree anti-zionism is anti-Semitism? Yes? Otherwise what would burning the flag of a foreign nation have to do with the Jewish religion as a whole?

If youre doing it at a synagogue with no other context, your motive clearly is anti-semitism

Like I said, you could ADD the context to make it expressly anti-Zionist, but then why even bother doing it at an American synagogue, unless they are tied to the Israeli government in some way I guess
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Corrik7 posted...

LGBT flag is exactly the same as the American flag. A symbol of pride.

LGBT is just gay pride. American flag is American pride.

Just like a Yankee flag is a Yankee pride, etc.

There is basically zero scenario where burning a LGBT flag should be considered more criminal than burning an American flag inside of America. The American flag should be a sacred symbol within our borders and be met with stiff measures for those who desecrate it.

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Wanglicious posted...

just look at instances where religious practice gets put at odds with the law.

What are some examples of that. I can only think of wine at communion for kids
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Like, I would not consider pissing on an LGBT flag at a gay bar to be a threat, nor would I consider doing it to a cross outside a black familys house a threat (just stay on public property)
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Lets all avoid the fire hazards and agree to protest by pissing on things instead

That way if youre burning shit then theres no mistaking that its a threat
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Wanglicious posted...

the message isn't just "I hate you," it's also "God hates you and you should burn in hell." there is an intended stronger impact and people with religious beliefs hold them incredibly strong.

I realize this might not be what youre saying, but if theyre considered differently as threats legally because of this, then ugh. Reminds me of smokers getting extra breaks at work because of what theyre addicted to.
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Wanglicious posted...

i support burning it outside a synagogue too.
i'm quite in favor on the right to protest like that.

If you do it at a Synagogue, youre threatening people, not protesting

Unless you somehow make it VERY CLEAR what EXACTLY you mean by the flag burning, which is possible I suppose but then why bother
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Dancedreamer posted...

I wonder how many people defending burning the Pride Flag are also fine with burning say... the Israeli flag.

You should be able to burn an Israeli flag as a political statement

You should not be able to burn an Israeli flag at a Synagogue
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Like maybe we just arent defining threat the same way? Theres some breakdown in communication here
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Wanglicious posted...

it isn't.
go with the most extreme case - a guy with a gun. is a guy with a gun a major threat to your life? absolutely.
is it equally threatened as 10 people with guns? absolutely not. the threat is significantly higher. one person can change their mind in the first situation and hey, threat gone. nine people can choose to do nothing but one guy can decide fuck it, you're dead and now you're dead. they are not equal, in any way, and i do not know how you can think that.

this scenario is one man and you're comparing him to a collective of hooded/masked men and saying the threat isn't significantly different between these two. that's nonsense, the latter obviously is a much bigger threat. one guy yelling at you committing a violent act ain't the same as a bunch of people yelling at you, covering themselves up, and committing the same violent act. the latter is obviously much more dangerous, a much bigger threat, much more intimidating, and much more plausible to leading to escalation.

If 10 people kill you, youre not more dead than if one person kills you.

Now when you bring up potential for escalation beyond the initial threat, sure! But thats outside the scope of this argument.
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Im trying to figure out where the understanding between both opinions is lacking here

Is the hang up that a cross on a lawn threatens a specific family, whereas a flag at a bar threatens non-specific people?
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Wang said...

oh hey you care about context here but not in the other two. apply it there too.
also the KKK does it with religious reasons in mind. so the context is what i said.

Yeah, the context of the guy burning the flag at the gay bar is that he will kill gay people if they dont stop being gay. For religious reasons.
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To carry the discussion from the end of the last topic here:

My point is that your life is equally threatened by a single person who can credibly kill you as it is by a hooded collective who can credibly kill you. It makes no difference that it might be easier for a collective to pull it off if the means and the motive are present for both.
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Wanglicious posted...

burning a cross is going to be significantly stronger due to it literally being about life, death, and the afterlife.

Also I dont think any laws should take the afterlife into account but maybe thats just me
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Wanglicious posted...

...the threat level of one dude against... a group of masked people are similar? really? that's just dumb. sorry, but no, one person cannot kill or harm as much as a collective, that's incredibly stupid and nonsensical. a hooded person is ACTIVELY HIDING THEIR IDENTITY, a collective committing a violent act, you're saying that this is the same as a dude in the street. no. if you seriously consider these two as not significantly different i can't help you because it objectively is.

So you believe a hooded collective threatening to kill a gay person should be punished more than an individual threatening to kill a gay person? Like what are we even talking about if you dont think a threat from a single person should be taken as seriously
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Wanglicious posted...

but this doesn't make sense either since a nightclub and a private home are entirely different - a place of social gathering is drastically different than literally your own home. one is a place you go to to socialize, hang out, or drink. the other is where you and your family sleep. they are in no way comparable.

But the threat you are making is the same

If you slip a letter in someones mail slot saying you want to kill them, thats the same threat as putting it in their office cubicle. And the only thing punishable here is the threat itself.

Wanglicious posted...

flag is a political symbol, cross is a religious one. burning a flag may mean anything from disagreement, hate, or making a political statement but burning a cross is going to be significantly stronger due to it literally being about life, death, and the afterlife.

Yes, burning a flag CAN be any of those things, but so can burning a cross. I can burn a cross at my house in a YouTube video as protest against Christianity. It means something different when I do it and direct it at a person or a group of people. Same with a flag.

I dont get this distinction at all. Context is key for both.
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And yes, 16 years of prison is a stupid punishment
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Wanglicious posted...

burning a flag is not the same as burning a cross

Why not?

Wanglicious posted...

a gay bar is not the same as a person's private residence

I would take the threat the exact same way if someone burned a cross outside of a heavily black nightclub.

Wanglicious posted...

and an individual doing an act is not the same as a hooded/masked collective

The potential threat level is not significantly different enough to be meaningful. One person can kill or harm just as much as a collective, just not as easily
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Uhhh no

Do you think that constitutes a threat of some kind?
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$900 please
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Burning an LGBT flag should not be a crime

Burning an LGBT flag OUTSIDE OF A GAY BAR is a direct threat akin to the KKK burning a cross at a black mans house and should be a crime
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One quirk of the stats I cant explain

NXT dominated women 35-49 but lost women 12-34
AEW dominated men 12-34 but lost men 35-49

Weird
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NXT not only beat AEW in total viewers last night, but for the first time, they won the prime demo
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Ha! Thats pretty fun
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