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How do ties work? Because the last poll has SMB even with 3DW
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#235. Sling Blade
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/44/Slingbladeposter.jpg
Dir: Billy Bob Thornton
Genre: Drama
Year: 1996

Billy Bob Thornton basically did everything on this movie and then was set for life. And you can't really hate him for it. He gives us one of the most iconic performances of the decade--maybe even beyond that--as a character that I still can't believe is him. I mean, look at this:

https://imgur.com/YhbhVB7

It blows my mind that this was the same dude:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/fargo/images/3/3a/Billy_bob_thornton.jpg

The story is fairly cliched (up until the bloody climax, at least), but that doesn't matter. It's a perfectly executed boy-befriends-monster-who-really-isn't-one tale that is wholly satisfying to watch. Also it's probably my favorite movie to quote IRL in The Voice.
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#236. Logan
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Logan_2017_poster.jpg
Dir: James Mangold
Genre: Superhero
Year: 2017

It takes a lot for me to rave about a comic book/superhero movie. Between the MCU, DCU, and Sony franchises, I am completely drained of all desire and emotion when it comes to them. The formula is tired, the action is boring, and even the ones that are "clever" can be grating to me. Maybe I am just a crotchety old man, but that's truly how I feel.

But the four superhero movies on this list (and a few others that barely missed the cut) transcend the genre. Take Logan, for example. The cinematography is gorgeous (I almost wish the black-and-white version they made was the real theatrical version!). The action is muted and effective. It plays more like a road movie than a superhero film. Most importantly, it seems to go beyond the regular formula to tell us something deeper about the filmmakers' intentions. This was the last in a long line of X-Men movies, the franchise that started the comic book movie boom of the 2000s/2010s, and the pervasive theme is that of exhaustion. Logan is tired of all the fighting. He just wants to help the next generation find their calling. It's an appropriate, toned back send-off in an era of exhausting excess.

Feel free to guess what the other 3 are!
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red sox 777 posted...

As far as the Alabama thing goes, I doubt the Supreme Court is ready to overturn Roe v. Wade. Maybe if you could replace one of the liberals or Roberts with another Trump appointee, but you've got 4 guaranteed no votes right now and Roberts probably makes 5. Don't think any of the other 4 are guaranteed yes votes either, except maybe Thomas.

Kavanaugh would 100% oppose overturning Roe. You need to replace 2 of the liberal justices with super conservatives for this to even be a remote possibility.

What I could see happening is a more gradual shift toward individual states passing harder restrictions. But Alabama probably blew its load and will have to revert back to wherever they were previously. Georgia and Ohio reps are being much smarter about this.
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#237. Clerks
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Clerks_movie_poster%3B_Just_because_they_serve_you_---_.jpg
Dir: Kevin Smith
Genre: Comedy
Year: 1994

Clerks is underrated. No, I don't mean that it's an underrated comedy or that people forget how funny it is. I mean it is underrated in its importance in film history! In 1994, Kevin Smith proved that it was possible to make a great picture with nothing more than a camera and some well-written dialogue of friends talking about every day subjects. It wasn't the first movie to do this, but it certainly opened the floodgates to so much of the Gen X proto-mumblecore comedies of the mid to late 90s. And even viewed in a vacuum, it's still very clever, funny, and crisply edited. A timeless and timely piece.

Mild list spoilers: This is the first of eight movies from 1994 (most of them appearing in the top 50). It is far and away the greatest year in film history and it blows my mind how many classics were released then.
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#238. Total Recall
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Total_recall.jpg
Dir: Paul Verhoeven
Genre: Science Fiction
Year: 1990

Like virtually all of Paul Verhoeven's films, Total Recall treats its hyper-masculinity tongue-in-cheek. Which makes casting peak Arnold as the lead an absolutely brilliant decision and what makes the recent remake one of the most vapid projects in recent memory.

I'm just a sucker for visually inventive sci-fi movies. Like The Fifth Element, there's nothing that looks quite like Total Recall. It's something that's really just lacking in modern blockbusters and something that I am skeptical we'll be seeing again any time soon.
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#239. O.J.: Made in America
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/OJ_Made_in_America.png
Dir: Ezra Edelman
Genre: Documentary, Crime
Year: 2016

Not many documentaries can hold one's interest for 467 minutes. O.J.: Made in America is one of those films.

There are several reasons why this is the most enthralling documentary in a decade where documentaries have really reached a golden age. The subject matter happens to be one of, if not the biggest, pop culture news stories of the past 50 years. I was just a kid when the OJ trial was going on, but even I had flashbacks to where I was when certain parts of the film unfolded. But it's more than just the subject matter--O.J.: Made in America is a microcosm for race relations, fame, and the criminal justice system in the U.S. The way it weaves contemporary events like the L.A. riots helps it become more than just a singular topic. It's a documentary that encapsulates this country for the past 30 years.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

haven't seen 40 year old virgin but the only time i laughed during superbad was after the "this guy is either gonna think 'here's another kid with a fake ID' or 'here's mclovin, a 25 year-old hawaiian organ donor'" line.

Do you like Fast Times at Ridgemont High? I feel like movies such as that and Superbad are just so full of Americana that it might be hard to relate to them if you didn't have the same experiences.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

superbad is terrible. the apatow/rogen style of comedy doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

They definitely have run their course, especially as they've gotten a lot lazier with their writing. But their earlier stuff (40 Year Old Virgin and Superbad) are very well made.
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So if you're the pelicans... You really start considering trading Davis for 2 of Ball/Ingram/Kuzma + the #4 pick right?
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So terrible that they made him sit through that
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But for real if AD actually decided to play hard this year, this is a solid team
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This makes me fucking despise Anthony Davis even more. If he didn't quit on the team they would not have been in this position.
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Poor Zion. He just lost like 9 figures from his first endorsement
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aahahahaa I want to die

literally the two least popular teams in the NBA
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davidponte posted...

The Knicks are about to Knicks and trade away the first overall pick once they get it, aren't they?

Nah. Zion is worth too much money.
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If the Knicks get the #1 pick I am going to literally explode

If the Knicks don't get the #1 pick I am going to literally explode
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ok now I am done
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#240. The Sandlot
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Sandlot_poster.jpg
Dir: David Mickey Evans
Genre: Sports, Comedy, Coming-of-Age
Year: 1993

There are plenty of movies we grow up watching as kids that you look back on with confusion, embarrassment, or revulsion. I loved the Sandlot. But I also loved Three Ninjas. Ace Venture. *shudders*...Warriors of Virtue. Yet here I am, 25+ years later, and there's only one of those movies I'd watch any day, with any group of people.

We all have one of those movies. The kind that makes you nostalgic for nostalgia. I didn't grow up in the early 60s, but growing up in the early 90s certainly made you feel like you should have. And The Sandlot is simply a wonderful film that holds up with the greats.
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#241. A Streetcar Named Desire
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/A_Streetcar_Named_Desire_%281951%29.jpg/800px-A_Streetcar_Named_Desire_%281951%29.jpg
Dir: Elia Kazan
Genre: Drama
Year: 1951

The only straight-up play-turned-into-a-movie in the Top 250, Streetcar really earns its spot here. I'm normally not a fan of such literal interpretations, but this film is Brando, Brando, Brando. Taking from his legendary Broadway breakthrough, he explodes onto the screen and quite literally changes acting forever. Vivien Leigh is also fantastic and the whole thing is just magical to watch.

That's really all I have to say about this one. The entire selling point is witnessing perhaps the finest performances ever put to screen.
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#242. The Apartment
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Apartment_60.jpg
Dir: Billy Wilder
Genre: Comedy, Romance
Year: 1960

The premise is absurd. Dude lends out his apartment so his bosses can bone their mistresses on his furniture, thereby helping him rise the corporate ranks. Through a series of wacky mishaps, Dude falls for one of the mistresses and hilarity ensues.

It is really damn hard for me to like comedies from this era--especially romantic comedies. But the chemistry between Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine (who is ludicrously sexy here) in The Apartment is just off the charts. The movie also gets surprisingly dark at times (a Billy Wilder specialty), so it becomes pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the whole thing is a giant farcical satire. One of the few pre-Baby Boomer comedies I can really recommend!
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#243. The Thing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a6/The_Thing_%281982%29_theatrical_poster.jpg
Dir: John Carpenter
Genre: Science Fiction, Horror
Year: 1982

John Carpenter's The Thing is so close to being (I believe) the only remake in my Top 250! But alas, it's not actually a remake of The Thing from Another World, but rather a reimagining of its source material.

The Thing is an absolute master class in sci-fi horror filmmaking. Very few movies so accurately portray a sense of isolation, terror, and paranoia as well as this one. I could also make the argument that this contains the greatest practical effects of all time. Seriously, if anyone can name something that does it better, I am all ears. I'd love to see it.

I mean

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BN2MyMDcyZDAtOWZkZS00NzVlLWE0MTMtZGZkYjQzMDYwYzFjXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjY1ODM4NDY@._V1_.jpg

Come. ON.
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#244. The Fifth Element
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Fifth_element_poster_%281997%29.jpg
Dir: Luc Besson
Genre: Science Fiction
Year: 1997

Apparently I was wrong in my OP... I completely forget this is technically a French film!

Anyway, the Fifth Element is a very silly movie. It's over-the-top, campy, and probably could have benefited from another few years of CGI technology improvement. But god damn does it ooze style and originality. Taken unseriously--as I think the director intended--it really should silence the critics who tended to over-analyze everything in this era (see: Starship Troopers, RoboCop, etc.). Just a genuinely fun watch to this day.
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red sox 777 posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1126958896973778950

#ThisIsWhyYouLost2020

Really hope people like AOC stay home because Biden doesn't want everyone to return to subsistence farming. The centrist Dems might legitimately go to war with progressives over this.

Seph, what do you think we should do about climate change?

React to it and stop acting like the world is going to end in ten years.

Allocate money to help places like Miami prepare for rising sea levels while instituting common sense energy reform (incentivize building more nuclear power plants!).
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https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1126958896973778950

#ThisIsWhyYouLost2020

Really hope people like AOC stay home because Biden doesn't want everyone to return to subsistence farming. The centrist Dems might legitimately go to war with progressives over this.
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Well nuts
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If this leads to Simpsons episodes on Hulu instead of the crappy FXX app, I'm all in
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I tend to consider influence at least somewhat in making these lists. Movies are such a cool medium because they're all additive upon their forebears. Part of a film's "greatness" is its ability to inspire other filmmakers imo.
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Johnbobb posted...

also I had a philosophy professor in college who swore by the theory that Mr. Brainwash is actually Banksy

I don't think he literally is, but I believe Banksy helped create his persona to punk the art community
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CasanovaZelos posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

CasanovaZelos posted...

Snow White is ranked #312 of all-time on the TSPDT list, so critics would at least agree. The only animated films that are higher are Spirited Away and My Neighbor Totoro, though WALL-E also looks likely to displace it with time.

There are only 2 animated movies in the top 300? That's pretty absurd tbqh!

A lot of critics seem to ignore animated movies entirely...it's really quite sad.

I don't think any Disney movies past the first five are in the top 1000.

Christ. I was worried that only having 6 Disney animated features and 4 Pixar films in my top 250 would make people rage.
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CasanovaZelos posted...

Snow White is ranked #312 of all-time on the TSPDT list, so critics would at least agree. The only animated films that are higher are Spirited Away and My Neighbor Totoro, though WALL-E also looks likely to displace it with time.

There are only 2 animated movies in the top 300? That's pretty absurd tbqh!
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And I think I am done for today. I'll try to bang out 5 a day if I can!
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#245. Exit Through the Gift Shop
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Exit-through-the-gift-shop.jpg
Dir: Banksy (allegedly)
Genre: Documentary, Comedy
Year: 2010

If you have never heard of it, Exit Through the Gift Shop is a documentary on the rise of street artist "Mr. Brainwash." It follows his ridiculous, pretentious journey through the art world, but really serves as a parable for how susceptible people can be to intellectual group think.

I am of the opinion that the documentary itself is a "hoax"--in the sense that it is an art project in itself to comment on the state of the industry. Either way, it is wildly entertaining, hysterical, and completely enthralling. And if my speculation is true, it is also one of the smartest, most compelling works of art in the past decade--fooling critics with a movie about fooling critics. Just brilliant.
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#246. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Snow_White_1937_poster.png
Dir: A bunch of dudes at Disney
Genre: Animation, Musical
Year: 1937

The first of a half-dozen Disney animated films on this lost (not counting Pixar) is also the first of their features. Going through the Disney animated filmography for this list is a pretty unrewarding task, as you find yourself having to cut true classics and weigh both influence with objective appeal. Fortunately, Snow White not only happens to be the film that sets the classic standards, but it's also one of the best of the "Golden Age" canon.

Even though it's nearly a century old, the hand-painted cels are still absolutely gorgeous and provide an aesthetic that is really unique to the era. The music ("Heigh-Ho" specifically) can hold its weight against any of the non-Renaissance Disney films, and it's rather remarkable that all of this was able to be done with virtually no precedent. Snow White is really damn good.

PS I'm not a Disney expert, so I am genuinely curious if this will be considered a good pick or not!
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TomNook posted...

Hurry through this so you can rank the Game of Thrones episodes next.

just count the episodes backwards and there you have it
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#247. Good Time
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Good_Time_%28film%29.png
Dir: Josh and Benny Safdie
Genre: Crime, Suspense, Comedy (really not easy to classify it!)
Year: 2017

I saw Good Time on a complete whim one day because my wife loves Robert Pattinson. I had absolutely no preconceptions going in, nor did I even really know what the plot was. Thus, I will leave this write-up very vague in case anyone wants to watch it for themselves with that same sense of you-have-no-idea-what's-going-to-happen-next.

All I can say is that this film is what I imagine it's like to be lost in a city on PCP. And that Robert Pattinson is incredible and horrifically underrated. Good Time has flown way under the radar, so I am guessing you can find it streaming for free on Prime/Hulu/Netflix. Stop what you're doing and watch it now.
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kateee posted...

that's such a specific (wrong) pick that i have to wonder what inspired that

I may or may not have violently ranted against 3 Billboards in the Oscars topic
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#248. Superbad
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8b/Superbad_Poster.png
Dir: Greg Mottola
Genre: Comedy, Coming-of-Age
Year: 2007

Comedies are a weird genre to include on "best ever" lists. Humor vacillates across generations more than any other feeling, so what's funny one decade may seem boring, stupid, or even abhorrent in the next. But as I get older, the comedies that have tended to stick with me most are the ones that can capture a certain time or place while still maintaining a universal theme. Fast Times at Ridgemont High (not on the list) did this in the 1980s, a certain black-and-white indie flick (on this list) did so in the 1990s, and--for my money--Superbad does this best for the 2000s.

For better or worse, the Judd Apatow/Seth Rogen brand of comedy has been emblematic of my generation. I don't know how the humor will age when my kids grow up and watch it from my dusty DVD collection, but I can at least be confident that they will be watching a solidly structured story that perfectly encapsulates what it was like to be a teenager in the mid 2000s.
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Johnbobb posted...

Predicting Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri for #1

you might want to leave this topic if you think that movie is even touching this list !!
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#249. Freaks
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/FreaksPoster.jpg
Dir: Tod Browning
Genre: Horror
Year: 1932

Fun SephG fact: I literally became interested in discovering weird/obscure films after Goldust listed his favorite movies in WWF magazine. Freaks was the first one on his list that I watched, and I've been hooked ever since.

Pre-code horror movies are fascinating to me. You always think of old movies as really Puritan, very tame by today's standards. But there was a brief window of time when there essentially was no film board, and people like Tod Browning went wild--using real circus performers to give the movie an uncanny realism even modern filmmakers seldom dare to do. Freaks can be legitimately disturbing, and it delights me to imagine how much it fucked with people who still had to make their own clothes.

Unlike many other films of this era and in this genre specifically, Freaks really holds up well and is a frightful watch to this day. GOOBLE GOBBLE.
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kateee posted...

saw what you said about not seeing many foreign films but something that immediately stood out to me was that there's not a single film from South Korea on there so just wondering if you haven't even seen any of the big titles from there or what.

i'm guessing most of the Japan films are animation (Ghibli?) unless Kurosawa's in there.

also, how many films would you say you've seen overall?

So to give some background, I recently hit 1000 movies on iCheckMovies.com (but those only include films on their official lists). I also worked at a movie theater all throughout high school, so I have probably seen a disproportionate amount of movies in the early 2000s.

As for South Korea, the only movie I had on the "shortlist" was Oldboy. But I ultimately opted not to bring it into the top 250.

And yes, you'll find several anime and Kurosawa films on here ^_~
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#250: The Last Waltz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Waltz#/media/File:LastWaltzMoviePoster.jpg
Dir: Martin Scorsese
Genre: Documentary, Musical
Year: 1978

Simply put, The Last Waltz is the greatest music documentary ever produced. But this should come as no surprise--not only was its subject arguably the most ridiculous concert of all time, but it was filmed by none-other than Martin fucking Scorsese.

Scorsese manages to capture the mind-boggling intensity that was The Band's farewell concert. In the midst of flawlessly performing their own hits, the greatest backup band ever was further backed up by just about every musical luminary from peak coked-out 70s rock 'n roll. Van Morrison. Ringo Starr. Eric Clapton. Joni Mitchell. Bob Dylan. Neil Diamond for some bizarre reason.

If you have any interest in this kind of music, or even just to look at time capsule of the late-70s, I highly recommend checking this one out.
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AFI Top 100? Too stuffy.

IMBD Top 250? Too much recency bias.

Reddit Top 250? Too basic.

If you want to discover the real greatest films list, look no further.

Although I consider myself a film buff, I must admit a few shortcomings with this list up front. I am woefully inexperienced with silent films, and thus you'll find that nothing in my Top 250 was released before 1931. Additionally, as much as I love foreign films, I haven't watched as many as I would have liked to. I adore Ingmar Bergman and Fellini, for example, but I admittedly have only seen a small portion of their filmography. Finally, I generally hate musicals, so you'll find that there are only a handful on here and the list ignores some major "classics" in that genre.

A few interesting stats as I put the list into a spreadsheet:

Most featured directors
Martin Scorsese - 11 (!!)
Steven Spielberg - 7
Quentin Tarantino - 7
Stanley Kubrick - 6
Christopher Nolan - 5
Wes Anderson - 4
Joel and Ethan Coen - 4
Francis Ford Coppola - 4
Alfonso Cuarn - 4
Alfred Hitchcock - 4
Richard Linklater - 4
David Lynch - 4

Films by decade
1930s - 8
1940s - 6
1950s - 14
1960s - 19
1970s - 32
1980s - 32
1990s - 53
2000s - 44
2010s - 42

Films by genre*
*Roughly giving each movie one subjective category

Action - 20
Adventure - 11
Animated - 21
Comedy - 22
Documentary - 6
Drama - 95
Fantasy - 6
Horror - 12
Musical - 2
Sci-Fi - 18
Sports - 3
Superhero - 4
Thriller/Suspense - 20
War - 7
Western - 3

Films by (primary) country
Algeria - 1
Australia - 1
Brazil - 1
Canada - 2
China - 1
France - 4
Germany - 1
Hong Kong - 3
Italy - 8
Japan - 7
Mexico - 2
South Africa - 1
Sweden - 3
United Kingdom - 13
United States - 202 (obvious bias here)

I'm probably going to count these down with as much of write-up for each as I can do without it feeling like work (probably a few sentences). Enjoy!
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ExThaNemesis posted...

seph shut the fuck up and go watch mad men or something that you actually enjoy, god damn.

I only watch things that I hate and you enjoy
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Anagram posted...

Of all the complaints in this episode, the dragon being too strong shouldn't even register.

Nah, it's very valid.

If you read anything about Balerion the Black Dread, he was like twice the size of Drogon and breathed flames so hot they were black, and even he couldn't blow apart Harrenhal like Drogon did to the Red Keep. It was very stupid, and very off putting.

Lmao does GRRM literally write things like "the flame was so hot it was black"?

Good Lord.
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Actually as an adult, the only character that can give Seph a run for his money with "coolness" might be Captain Ahab from Moby Dick
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It just seems so illogical/sloppy for Dany to use the "but I want to free the people from tyranny" to justify her becoming their absolute monarch. She should at least just use the birthright reasoning instead of weirdly implying there will be some sort of change other than a new name on the throne.
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Probably a pointless question given how reckless the writers are now, but what exactly is Dany's logic when she says "I'm killing them so future generations won't have to live under a tyrant"?

Isn't she advocating for the same exact system of government that they currently have? I guess she can be a more "just" ruler, but Cersei never really oppressed her people any more than other absolute sovereigns did... right? It just seems silly unless Dany wants to establish some sort of democratic system of governance (which would make her motivations way more interesting, fwiw).
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Sephiroth. Still the coolest to my 31 year old self too.
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