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Leanansidhe posted...

Does anyone have a hot take response to "why not Scare" ?

Idk if Ben being town hurts or helps the case on scare. I felt it made him more scum if Ben was scum, but he wasn't. So instead his fake scan on scare was based on gut of reading the game 45 minutes that produced Chris is to town I should fakeclaim 2 ways to try and save him. = /
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FD > Scare > Lea > IGCD

This is how the Ben flip changes my POE.
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Btw, FD preloaded that post. Which mean he knew both I wouldn't die and neither would he. He didn't read the flips and make that within 6 minutes. Trust me.

"I may not be the best player, and I'll be the first to recognize and acknowledge that. "

Also he doesn't say this in regards to me either unless being insincere.
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##vote: FD

I will listen to the rest of yinz more tho after Ben has me shook.
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"If it says what I want it to say, it must be true. If not, source of the source of the source please."
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foolm0r0n posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Never said that anywhere

That's how implications work, yes

Yeah, I never implied that.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Corrik and Ulti seriously think their families will spend their entire savings to keep them in a brain dead coma for years, if not for the doctors pulling their plug to take their organs

Never said that anywhere.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

TomNook posted...

I posted the twitter in my 2nd post of the topic when people asked me for the source. I didn't even realize until later in the topic that that somehow wasn't good enough, and they wanted some news station with a political lean that was posting the same link I posted.

from what i understand the issue was that at the time, people didn't know that that twitter account belonged to the dayton shooter so they were asking how you knew, and you refused to answer this question. didn't seem like an unreasonable question either. anyone can link to some random dude's twitter and say "HEY GUYS THIS IS THE SHOOTER."

i guess there were pictures but (just going by memory) those weren't so clear that it was 100% undeniable that the owner of the twitter was indeed the shooter.

Pretty sure he pointed out how it was the shooter. Markings, Dayton references, etc.
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He gave you the source. The guy's Twitter.
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Highly doubt the source originated in the Donald anyways. I am sure the Donald got it from somewhere else and went wild with it.

I was able to simply pull up the same information by googling what he said and get it from a website. (The heavy).

Surely the others in the topic were just as capable of a simple google search. Which leads me to believe they were just trying to see where he said so they could label him.
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No, I don't wanna make my loved ones lose me early because they saved all the non-organ donors before me if in an accident.
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@DrPez
STOP
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##unvote:
##vote: ben

Lezz go. If ur town, ur bad, ben.
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Ben is likely scum.
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Leanansidhe posted...

If you're town, I strongly advise you take a step back and consider this from another angle. The amount of elaborate and exotic situations you have to concoct should be letting you know that this does not subscribe to Occulus's Razor. Do you really think Chris on the scumboard was all "I'M DYIN' OUT HERE HELP ME OUT." Chris, who, before this game would understandably think he's the best, needing to be saved by ants? The "too scummy to be scum plan" is a reason to not auto confirm someone town, but is a poor scum motive on its own. It's B8. You know what's better than painting a giant target on yourself in the hopes of WIFOMing people? Not doing that. Doing nothing. Letting town eat itself by not giving anyone a good reason to look at you. You know, like Scare is doing today.

Like Forceful all game?
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Hbthebattle posted...

Leanansidhe posted...

Hbthebattle posted...

Corrik7 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.

Look, I've seen scum Ben before and he's far more crafty and dangerous than Ben is here. Scum Ben puts far more care into his play than Ben has today. He really isn't scum here.

What's an example of Scum Ben craftiness that's different from this? Lopen isn't saying he pulled a Sultan, the accusation is triple WIFOM.

During RDR2 mafia, Ben was scum MVP and was nearly unquestionably town- since he was "town leader", so to speak, he ensured discussion of him as scum was pretty much off the table. That's the kind of play I expect from scum Ben, not "haha that's too dumb to be scum, unless..." Ben takes his play far more carefully as scum- it's likely his actions here are just town!Ben's negligence.

So you believe as town Ben simply doesn't care at all?

Also, if Ben was town he would have likely used his "book" nonsense to say it.
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##unvote:
##vote: Forceful
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Day is dead

##vote: ben
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I've been moderated one time in the last 6 months and it was because I said I felt FF7R is rumored to split after a certain event in it. I was moderated for spoilers, despite multiple topics with that event in their titles and threads openly all over the board for the game. *Shrug*
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benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.

Then what's more likely? I made dumb plays because I don't care to hide my scuminess or I made dumb plays because I don't have information and F'd things up this game?

The likeliest is that you as scum tried to do something that was so scummy that it couldn't be scum.
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I feel like Chris would not have allowed bussing from his team until late when he got down to -2 and FD very quickly goes from no hammer need more time to zomg hammer him he is -1.
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Lopen, FD, Ben... Maybe. Still don't get the plan on Scare then. It's hard to wrap your brain around how dumb Ben's play was as any alignment.
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MZero11 posted...

or FD today, Ben tomorrow

either way!

Ben today prob. Lea isn't being lynched today.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

If Ben is town, it is the most nonsense play I have ever seen ever.

Like, faking masons cuz he thought Chris was town as town... Maybe.

Faking a scan on scare also to not just save Chris but to try and direct the Lynch to a specific person as well? That's where the wheels fall off as a town Gambit.

I was clearly not being serious about the scan. That's why I threw two crazy claims into one post, to make both less believable. I had already said earlier that more than a tracker+watcher would be too much for town, so I was never planning to stick with having a scan on Scare

Then why is Scare scum. You said it repeatedly.
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I kinda think FD should claim before we decide on who to Lynch here.
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HB doesn't nitpick Chris' claim details as scum with him. That is the main this dude is definitely town post. But, he has looked solidly town all game. Day 3 I mentioned that also.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.

You are avoiding elaborating on your read of me, why is that?

What is there to say about you? You are playing more this game. You have tried to analyze some shit. You also were the first onto Chris day 3. However, your play hasn't really accomplished too much either. You don't have defining moments that make me go aha he is town like HB and Gravy do.

I could resolve your play as either alignment easily. Especially your vote on Chris and push cuz ur the one guy who as scum with Chris who would be like IDGAF what your strategy is, I'll do it the way I want.
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If Ben is town, it is the most nonsense play I have ever seen ever.

Like, faking masons cuz he thought Chris was town as town... Maybe.

Faking a scan on scare also to not just save Chris but to try and direct the Lynch to a specific person as well? That's where the wheels fall off as a town Gambit.
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I would say if I have a misread, it is with lopen. Just because lopen's analysis didn't make sense regarding Chris to let him resolve when he is super against that. And, Chris of course happened to be the roleblocker which makes sense to buy days to "resolve" when Chris wasn't a resolvable claim anyways.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.

Neutral? Have I done nothing to earn points in either direction? If I have earned points in both directions what gets me scum points and what gets me town points?

You could go either way. You are neutral. Scare is neutral but he leans more scum than you because what was the gameplan if Ben and Chris are scum together faking a scan on scare for him to flip town? Get a mislynch and put off Chris' lynch 2 nights to keep his roleblock? Or does he flip scum to try and confirm Ben as legit and Chris via extension?

Not sure the thinking there.

I could have a single misread in my analysis tho. No way there is more than 2. FD is pretty much scum.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Corrik7 posted...

So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD

What exactly is it that makes me scum to you?

I just don't see much to make you town.

If on a list you and scare would be under neutral.

Ben and FD under scum.
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So the scum team is in FD, Ben, IGCD, Scare. FD looks worse than IGCD.

Prob go

Ben > FD > Scare > IGCD
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Okay so I forgot sbell in my earlier post.

Town
Corrik
HB
Gravy

Pretty town
Mzero
Sbell

Likely town
Lea
Lopen

Now there is someone who has been super under the radar and people need to be considering a lot more.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Like I said yesterday, I liked Blade day 1. Scare hasn't said anything to make me reconsider that at this point.

Regarding Chris x Lea I've was getting pretty convinced by Lopen even before Brohan claimed, but now nothing else makes sense.

I've gone over Red's contributions to day 2 and the main points he was presenting were "damn you for ending the day quickly, Chris is bad, we should still Target sultan first, don't end day early". To that end, I think Chris is the better choice today. If there is an extra kill on scum I think it's more likely to be the person who made up an absurd claim rather than than the fake watcher who only seems to have stepped in to make sure Chris didn't get lynched between the two. I think if Chris was desperate enough to ask someone to step in for him it would probably be a vanilla.

So consider my preference to be Chris, but I'm not voting for ANYONE until we hit the 36 how mark. We need to have a proper length day, we've only been hampering and handicapping ourselves by limiting the amount of available information.

Not voting for ANYONE until the 36 hour mark. Remember this.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

MysticBrohan posted...

no guys chris lea and ben are all very obviously members of the mafia faction in this game of mafia can we lynch them please and thank you

I'm on board, but what's the rush? We've been suffering from a lack of daylight. Why do we have to end now?

Oh okay, no rush.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I literally just finished saying scare hadn't given me any bad vibes and he does this.

I don't want the day to end early, but I also don't want to actively pursue any other lynches, that's just asking for trouble. Let's use this time to push the conversation on people who been announced the spotlight, but without losing our focus.

Lynch, Chris but let's not end early!

-3 on Chris.

4 hours later when Fire gets Chris to -2

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I got busy with laundry and yard work sheet I got home from church, but I'm still planning to spend some more time trying to learn about people who have been avoiding the spotlight. Also it's pretty ironic that Lea got on my day1 for saying i would be playing VR for a couple hours, calling it "preemptively excusing inactivity", when that's what he's been doing all day. Not that we needed a reason beside the watcher conter to think he's scum, but the hypocrisy is real.

With that said my schedule will be slightly better if the next day starts Monday rather than Tuesday so I guess I'm content to move things along.

##Vote: Chris

Someone can hammer now.

OH SHIT THIS IS HAPPENING. GOTTA GET IN ON THIS TO LOOK TOWN BEFORE IT HAPPENS. Better to look town being next to last to make it -1 than actually hammering.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Lea is undoubtedly an actual watcher since there's no reason to risk messing up that claim on a high risk low reward situation like that. Could be scum watcher just revealing at a time when he can be "helpful", but I still think it's high risk because anyone on the scum team would have been expecting Sultan flips town. And Watchers can't just keep surviving night kills. If another town scanning role exists then Lea is a lot more likely scum, but for now tracker and watcher is a perfectly viable combo

Scum Ben wouldn't have posted this if scummates with Lea.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Please follow me on Scare if you want an easy scum lynch today. This is not based on Blade's play but Scare's.

When Chris got -3 Ben comes at scare with zero reasoning. Says it is based on "Scare's" play not Blades. So, not a scan.

Then

benjamin3740 posted...

I have not been reading in much depth. Spent about a total of 45 minutes of time in total on this game so far because of being busy. However I read enough to know Chris is town. And that was based on day 1, not the Sultan crusade (which only helps his case more)

How could he have read much of scums play if the majority of this 45 minutes was supposedly knowing Chris was town while re-reading day 1 before hammering.
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As of my re-read so far entering day 3.

Town
Corrik
HB
Gravy

Pretty town
Mzero

Likely town
Lea
Lopen
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Also, I was wrong Lea said to not hammer after her "scan". It was LEAfeon. Weird Lea never refuted this all game.
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greengravy294 posted...

Well I'm actually caught up. I was never pursuing Chris though, that's completely wrong. I used him to generate content. I said he was lying town.

Doesn't say this if scum.
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DrPez posted...

Official Votals as of post 220

(6) Sultan: (Chris), SBell, (Ben), Gravy, Chris, Corrik, HB, Lea
(3) Chris: Red, (Lea), (Corrik), MZero, Sultan, (Lopen)
(2) Scare: (Lopen), Ben, Lopen, (Lea)
(0) Lopen: (Corrik), (Chris)
(0) Lea: (Gravy)
(0) FD: (MZero)

@ me with any errors

With 15 alive it takes 7 to lynch

EDITED

Okay I just want to point out this Lynch does have info now that Chris flipped scum.

Chris was at "-2" to the erroneous 7 to Lynch with Red, Lea, Mzero, Sultan, and Lopen on him.

Red is town. Sultan Indy. But, the fact is that this Lynch sprung up and there is very little chance scum would have been on this. Lea has the worst unvote tho. However, I feel almost confident saying EVERY LAST PERSON HERE is not scum.

As of right now that is my thinking.
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MZero11 posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I figured as town Blade would have liked how we cut down the ever shit show day 1 into mere hours. Conserving himself for later on. Instead it goes into an insta replace.

I mean Blade was livid about it in topic. He kept saying things like he's finally invested in day 1 and everyone is being dumb and he was the only one doing anything

Blade never cares day 1 and also despises day 1, advocated for them being shortened due to so pointless.

So, him whining there is actually out of character.

That said, Sultan definitely shot me night 1. He instantly calls Lea a liar after she says he visited Chris in a resigned way.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So lea is also lying great...

This reads so much like JFC this is bullshit cuz all these people are faking shit against me. Lol.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Also I was blocked last night but I no sold that shit.

So, yeah, red likely blocked him. How Chris would have known he was blocked if his role was legit is of course... A huge plot hole. No one noticed it tho I guess.

Hbthebattle posted...

If youre Untrickable why bother asking if Sultan is Miller?

And, HB is just town.

Actually, Lea does call out Chris on the unblockable part. Only one to do so. Lea is town.

There is zero chance HB or Lea would have pointed out flaws in Chris' claim as scum when Chris was roleblocker.
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Okay nevermind. It says opening post day 2 that scare replaced blade. Strike the HB stuff. We can go back to HB seeming so town as I said before. *phew*
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greengravy294 posted...

Replacement meta says Meow1000 is town since scum blade probably has a good laugh at repeating the absurd mafia boko lynch.

Didnt scum roll over town that game?

Okay. Replacement meta suggests Blade is scum actually. Blade detests being scum and likes to be town...preferably town vanilla.

Despite Blade played very town like day 1, I feel that is necessary to point out.

I figured as town Blade would have liked how we cut down the ever shit show day 1 into mere hours. Conserving himself for later on. Instead it goes into an insta replace.

I still have no idea how HB knew Blade replaced before it was announced also.

I checked the hosting topic and there isn't a single post mentioning a replacement until 2 days later on 8/11. But HB posits

Hbthebattle posted...

Blade replaced, didnt he

At 6:56 pm on 8/9.

How?

I mean, I hate to replace meta says Blade is scum and think that HB was so braindead as scum that he mentioned his teammate replaced out before it happened... Especially after calling Blade so town day 1 and HB so town day 4, but... I mean... How did this post here happen?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

greengravy294 posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

So what do you think of Red saying "It's totally a Chris shot."

Raised a red flag to me.

Do not know red and your play history (as far as I am aware I have not played with both of you in a game together) so I draw zero conclusions from his analysis

Sir Chris as scum probably shoots town power 80% of the time night 1. Its feasible you could have deduced Ulti was indeed town power yesterday but scum Chris goes for the throat. I really don't see Han as any player of note play wise so he seems to be targeted as a player of power.

So basically you would either be wrong as scum, which has happened when you have shot night 1 (however you hit power at an uncanny rate), or wrong as town. Well both ways you would have ended up wrong.

Going into this day with zero info you could have subjugated the game. It hasn't. I feel hope. If you are scum, you are playing suboptimally for zero reason to my own actual understanding. Playing suboptimally to befuddle me versus against the entire field makes no sense since you are playing against the rest of town, so I feel fairly confident (80% I guess!) that you are town.

I know I didnt answer your question at all.

.. Wow. That's a really good post, Gravy.

This post by gravy is very wrong, and Chris made a point to say it was really good.

Especially the Han part.

I cannot see gravy posting this as scum because of how wrong it is.
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##unvote
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