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Doom_Art posted...

Eat More Beef posted...

Seriously though, Mal. I think it's time you sought help for your deteriorating mental state. You've developed a problem over the years, and while I think the majority of what you spew is garbage, just know that I just want the best for you, so please, call someone and get your issues taken care of.

Yeah agreed

It's fun to make fun of Mal but this is pretty frightening

"It wasn't a failure, because it was cancelled before it could fail!"
- a mentally-stable person
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Eat More Beef posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

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shockthemonkey posted...

Quote the part where it failed

Being canceled by a party that supported it is a pretty definitive indicator of failure.

Quote it!!!

I gave a pretty reasonable descriptor of a failure. It's your turn to show that the entire PC party was lying.

No you didnt
You think politicians lied to get elected is a conspiracy theory

Keep sounding ridiculous though, its fun to watch you flail

It also wasn't the conservatives that supported it in the first place. They were against it before the pilot project was launched, flipped for election time, then flipped again once elected.

Seriously though, Mal. I think it's time you sought help for your deteriorating mental state. You've developed a problem over the years, and while I think the majority of what you spew is garbage, just know that I just want the best for you, so please, call someone and get your issues taken care of.

Says the guy who called Mincome a success
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shockthemonkey posted...

No you didnt
You think politicians lied to get elected is a conspiracy theory

You're saying all politicians in the same party conspired to lie about the same exact thing for the same exact reason, and then all immediately flip flopped at the same time. That's quite a bit more outlandish than a politician lying about something.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Quote the part where it failed

Being canceled by a party that supported it is a pretty definitive indicator of failure.

Quote it!!!

I gave a pretty reasonable descriptor of a failure. It's your turn to show that the entire PC party was lying.
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Eat More Beef posted...

What about the original pilot project with UBI they did in Manitoba that was a success, Mal?

A UBI plan from 5 decades ago that ended after 4 years with a population of less than 1 million which ultimately showed a decline in the labor force.

Yeah, what a successful venture Mincome was.

Eat More Beef posted...

Or how about digging into the bones of this particular study (the 2017 one) where it saw an upshot in education and family time and small business expansions, because people had more time to persue such ventures.

Yes, free money is great...for the people getting the free money. But what happens after you run out of other people's money?
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shockthemonkey posted...

Quote the part where it failed

Being canceled by a party that supported it is a pretty definitive indicator of failure.
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shockthemonkey posted...

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shockthemonkey posted...

Much like in this topic, Mal will just say absolutely anything without any evidence and regardless of whether it makes any sense or not. Sometimes it leads to real gems of stupidity.

Prove they were all lying then.

Ok

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/08/28/basic-income-recipients-will-sue-ontario-over-cancellation_a_23511127/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

Quote the part where it says the progressive conservatives conspired to feign support for it even though they planned to end it all along.
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Doom_Art posted...

I'm just baffled at this and trying to make sense of it

"It didn't fail, they just pulled the plug because they forsaw it failing!"

^ Your actual argument.
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Doom_Art posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Much like in this topic, Mal will just say absolutely anything without any evidence and regardless of whether it makes any sense or not. Sometimes it leads to real gems of stupidity.

When Pizzagate got proven wrong he literally said "Well it doesn't matter because it easily could've been true"

Making up more and more specific lies, you must be getting worried.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Much like in this topic, Mal will just say absolutely anything without any evidence and regardless of whether it makes any sense or not. Sometimes it leads to real gems of stupidity.

Prove they were all lying then.
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Kastrada posted...

A. I don't have the numbers of that but it's still pre-emptive surgery that isn't really necessary. People can and do have healthy lives with both sex organs.

Except of course when it causes sterility, you mean. That's kind of a big deal for some people.

Kastrada posted...

B. The implication that cleft lips being the same as Quasimodo is a bit problematic. Cleft lips can be just cosmetic issues whereas having a hunched back could severely shorten a life span.

You know what I mean.

Kastrada posted...

understand what you are saying about it hurting a child mentally but fixing a lip is less invasive and less tied to the brain than sexual organs. More so, fixing a cleft lip or palate will not cause undo harm to a child's mental state. Surgery on intersex babies has a 50% chance of being completely wrong.

Except I'm pretty sure intersex kids mostly just grow up identifying as the gender they resemble. By not forcing one gender onto a kid, you're actually forcing sterility on them. Is that a better option to you or something?
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Doom_Art posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

advocating a conspiracy theory.

Mal knows a lot about doing that, since he's a Pizzagater and QAnon supporter

I wonder how much I need to own you until you start accusing me of being a holocaust denier.
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Doom_Art posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

you're losing an argument.

What argument? lol

This topic is you saying something dumb and doubling down on it repeatedly

You're actually trying to argue that UBI didn't fail because they didn't give it a chance to do any damage first.

Do you understand how myopic you sound
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shockthemonkey posted...

They didnt support it. They said they would support it in order to get votes.

Got a clip of the public domain parliament meeting where they all agreed to lie to the public or something, because you're literally advocating a conspiracy theory.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Reminder that Mal also said the Cold War started in the 80s

I like how you guys always need to make shit up every time you're losing an argument.

It's ok, people. UBI sucks. They gave it the old college try, but it just doesn't work. Maybe it will work when we have Star Trek replicators, but not before then.
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Doom_Art posted...

So the program didn't fail?

If a program is so bad that it needs to be canceled even by a political party that supported it, yes that would be called a failure.
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Doom_Art posted...

Ending a program prematurely because it was bound to be a failure = it's a failure

Glad we cleared that up.
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Kastrada posted...

The problem is that choosing one sexual organ over the other might not be what the child is wired to. They may be wired to grow up male but their penis was cut off as a child.

Don't most intersex kids grow up identifying as the gender they resemble?

Kastrada posted...

The comparison to cleft lips doesn't work as the self-identification aspect of the brain isn't really connected to the lips.

No i'm fairly certain that growing up looking like Quasimodo would have a much more profound effect on a child's psychology than what their junk looks like.
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Southernfatman posted...

Hell, the people who constantly bitch about BI would be against it even if it was 100% proven to be viable for their various screwed up "reasons".

Except it isn't viable and even the most leftist governments can't get it to work.

knutjob posted...

If Finland was such a better example to support your case, you should have led with that instead of this bullshit.

UBI failing in Finland isn't a current event...

Doom_Art posted...

Like I'm seriously struggling to understand how you arrived at this interpretation of events, Mal

I'm really enjoying watching you struggle to defend UBI with the argument that "they ended it before it could fail, therefore UBI isn't a failure".

Keep going though, I want to see how long you can keep that up.
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alt_no_1_loves posted...

CyricZ posted...

So wait is this a case of:

1) Start thing
2) People who don't like thing come into power
3) Those in power undermine effectiveness of thing
4) Those in power say "See? Thing doesn't work!"

Sounds mighty familiar...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

So it didn't fail in Finland either since the government canceled it before it could lead to a massive debt crisis.

Seems logical.

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Doe posted...

Because such things tend to be particularly involved with someone's mental development and their eventual self identity?

But having a messed up face like a cleft lip doesn't?
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Kolibri X posted...

BUI didn't fail just the government that provides it. Huge difference.

So it didn't fail in Finland either since the government canceled it before it could lead to a massive debt crisis.

Seems logical.
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Doe posted...

You don't do plastic surgery on a baby's face

Similarly you shouldn't be cutting off their genitals or carving out their uterus if it's not medically necessary

There's a lot of benign deformities though, so what makes deformed genitals that can eventually lead to sterility so important
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alt_no_1_loves posted...

We should have flairs like on reddit for misleading topic titles.

How's this misleading

They saw BI was gonna cost a shit ton of money so they pulled the plug.

What, do we not get to call BI a failure until after it leads to a country's collapse?
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Funkydog posted...

Is that a serious question?

Yeah, why are the genitals the one organ you need a baby's consent for in order to do surgery on
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CyricZ posted...

Still, why am I not surprised you don't know the difference between a pronoun and an honorific.

Excuse me, who are you to police my pronoun? The fact that there's an honorific of the same name is irrelevant. Not that it's my job to educate you, anyway.
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Yomi posted...

Kisai posted...

I wanted to continue the original DS games, but since I lost them, the 3DS trilogy will have to do. I'm starting with the first, and I've completely forgotten how the cases went too. On one hand, I'm disappointed I forgot, but on the other hand, it helps make it feel kind of like a fresh playthrough again. ^^

I know that the fifth game is on 3DS, but I'm not sure about the fourth...

I see, the originals were really good and I don't think I have a way of playing them legally either. If I recall correctly, the fourth one (Apollo Justice) is available on 3DS albeit only digitally in the U.S. and Europe, Japan got a physical version though.

I kinda want to play them in Japanese to see if I can spot on some important differences between the original and the localizations but my Japanese is still nowhere near good enough, I think. Someday I'll do it for sure :P

There are some games I wish I could choose to forget about their plot entirely just to experience them again, lol.

Aren't they all available on steam and Apple/Google app stores
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Funkydog posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Sorry but what rights didn't intersex people have before

Right not to have surgeries done on them without consent?

Since when did you need an infant's consent to perform a surgery on them

Since now.

How exactly do you get consent from an infant

Like, if a baby is born with a cleft lip, do they need to live with a fucked up mouth it until they're old enough to consent to a surgery?

This is in regards to surgery around "being intersex" nothing else.

How is fixing your genitals in any way different from fixing your mouth? Seems pretty arbitrary
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CyricZ posted...

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My preferred pronoun is "your majesty."

Yeah we know.

I think you mean "Yeah we know, your majesty".

By the way, my pronoun requires you to bow whenever you say it.
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Funkydog posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

frozenshock posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Sorry but what rights didn't intersex people have before

Right not to have surgeries done on them without consent?

Since when did you need an infant's consent to perform a surgery on them

Since now.

How exactly do you get consent from an infant

Like, if a baby is born with a cleft lip, do they need to live with a fucked up mouth it until they're old enough to consent to a surgery?
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CyricZ posted...

Sad_Face posted...

"bending backwards to cater to unreasonable demands"

If addressing someone by their preferred pronoun is bending over backwards

...how do you even get out of bed in the morning?

My preferred pronoun is "your majesty."
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frozenshock posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Sorry but what rights didn't intersex people have before

Right not to have surgeries done on them without consent?

Since when did you need an infant's consent to perform a surgery on them
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Roshon posted...

How can you read this and not support basic income? Unless youre a horrible person, that is

Free money is GREAT for the people getting the free money. In the short term, at least.
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Sorry but what rights didn't intersex people have before
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https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/08/28/basic-income-recipients-will-sue-ontario-over-cancellation_a_23511127/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

Reminder that this is what happens when you get just a little too socialist. Everything will go to shit and the spoiled brats who were getting shit for free will complain after they stop getting things they never worked for to begin with.
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I've watched just about every horror movie on Netflix and only a couple of them are scary.

Netflix needs more japanese horror stat.
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I think the only way to possibly fail is to either never show up or commit several violent crimes in class
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eston posted...

Yeah and the whole Trump Derangement Syndrome nonsense

It's like they forgot how they (and Trump) acted for the previous 8 years

When did Trump ever flip his shit because someone got two scoops of ice cream
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That looks nothing like Norm Macdonald...
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Ving_Rhames posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Can we ban crazy people from voting too?

Dont see why not. We'd probably have a different President right now lol.

Actually...

https://news.gallup.com/poll/102943/republicans-report-much-better-mental-health-than-others.aspx
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creativerealms posted...

Examples? That sounds like pro-life protesters and they are not liberals.

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Friends had that one black lady who left after a few episodes.

Seriously though, wasn't the cast of Seinfeld entirely Jewish? Do jews not count as minorities now?
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Can we ban crazy people from voting too?
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FrisbeeDude posted...

"We dont like when the police try and create criminals out of poor people"

If you see a truck on the side of the road and your very first inclination is to steal from it, you're a criminal and belong in jail.
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kuwab0 posted...

Are Lesbians boring compared to Gay men

The only "lesbian" movie I've seen is Blue is the Warmest Color and that was boring as shit when not watching it for porn, so I would say yeah.
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Sephiroth1288 posted...

Sorry but how is that supposed to fix any problems

lot of people there can't afford shoes/shoes that aren't fucked up

You think that's why those trucks get broken into?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/08/09/chicago-bait-truck/

Three people, including 36-year-old David C. King, a deaf man who told police via sign language he was looking for food, were arrested during the operation.

"Here's a single case where people claimed to be looking for food in a truck full of iPhones. This proves that thieves are just misguided and totally not just predators looking for an easy score."
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dontIoseyourway posted...

Sephiroth1288 posted...

Sorry but how is that supposed to fix any problems

lot of people there can't afford shoes/shoes that aren't fucked up

I don't think you know why people steal shoes.
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DarkProto05 posted...

Kindness goes a long way and has the potential to change how poor people view the world and can actually prevent them from becoming thieves.

How though

Since when did getting something for free make someone no longer want to rob people? Especially when it's couched in an anti-police narrative?
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Sorry but how is that supposed to fix any problems

Also, if you see a truck on the side of the road and your first inclination is to rob it, you probably belong in jail.
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"Do you think this is funny?"

"In a cosmic sort of way, yes."
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