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| Topic | Looking for smartphone recommendations |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 4:18:19 PM #9 | Far-Queue posted... You busting balls with this or are you serious? Didn't know they still made these. It's recent, gaming phone. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Looking for smartphone recommendations |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 4:17:43 PM #8 | Ogurisama posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...Sony Xperia line, great camera there. Like what? My last 4 phones were Sony. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Anyone here own any rental properties? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 4:13:11 PM #11 | Chewster posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...I remember like 12 years ago being in Boston and seeing TV ads for property for $3k in Texas. The picture showed a two storey wood clad building. Looked shitty but kid me was hyped. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Anyone here own any rental properties? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 4:10:19 PM #9 | Chewster posted... I get that rural areas are cheaper, but how the fuck is there anywhere in America where houses are $12,000? Are you sure you're not missing a digit somewhere? RVs are way more expensive than that and that's like a shitty version of a house. Even a lot of just normal cars are more expensive. I remember like 12 years ago being in Boston and seeing TV ads for property for $3k in Texas. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Looking for smartphone recommendations |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 4:06:27 PM #5 | Sony Xperia line, great camera there. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | How would you rate Donald J Trump's performance as POTUS so far? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 2:10:19 PM #26 | Mead posted... He has gone out of his way to divide the nation and re-inflame old issues. lol Like the US needs help to divide and flame itself. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I want to join the family and have breakfast and all that good stuff |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 1:19:31 PM #5 | Pics of toplessness. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 12:33:30 PM #49 | adjl posted... Testimony, most notably. Collecting testimony from a recently-traumatized victim is a delicate process, and police often don't do it properly, resulting in the loss of key details that could have resulted in a conviction. What do they "not do properly"? I'm not aware of them collecting testimony differently in sexual assault cases. adjl posted... The prevailing attitude of "this is going to be hard to prove" also discourages many victims from reporting in the first place, even in cases where there is physical evidence to be collected. So because people don't find the facts consoling, that's the fault of law enforcement? You probably shouldn't push for punishing others if you haven't got a good way of proving it, you'll only be wasting people's time. This is not different in sexual assault cases. adjl posted... It is actually the job of law enforcement to listen and believe. They're actually supposed to believe the accused is innocent, which is directly in conflict with believing the accuser. adjl posted... A certain degree of judgement is important to avoid wasting resources on obviously frivolous cases, but for somebody with no history of making false reports and no obvious psychosis (or other mental condition that would be very likely to result in blatant fabrications), a genuine effort should be made to take their claims seriously and investigate them to the fullest possible extent, whatever those claims are. A genuine effort should be made in all accusations regardless of prior history or mental illness. And it is. adjl posted... As much as people like to cite false sexual assault accusations as being a major problem, they aren't actually all that common, almost always fit a well-established pattern consistent with the behaviour of pathological liars, and virtually never result in an actual conviction. They're nowhere near a significant enough issue to affect how readily sexual assault claims are taken seriously, even in cases where concrete proof isn't immediately available. That's irrelevant, we do not live in a society where your word is enough alone to punish anybody for anything. You will need proof and if you do not have it then you need to accept that nobody can help you get revenge in good conscience. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Best of the last 10 PUTOS |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 8:54:55 AM #5 | Were any of them a President Undermining The Orange State? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/29/18 2:45:34 AM #99 | darkknight109 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...While they are not to blame for the risk increasing (don't put words in my mouth), they are to blame for not lowering it. I absolutely am responsible for fixing this as a responsible citizen, note how I'm not running away to another country. darkknight109 posted... I'm not sure you know what the term "white supremacist" means, if you think that it involves a guilt complex. To say white people are inherently better off is to say that white people are superior, particularly when citing an international stage where Mexicans would have Mexican privilege in Mexico. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | You can save a woman from a rapist or a child from a pedophile. Not both |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 6:28:48 PM #15 | MrMelodramatic posted... Im gonna say the vast majority of pedophiles have never hurt children (sexually, anyway). 100% of rapists have hurt someone, intentionally. The vast majority of known pedophiles would. It's not something you would admit by merely speaking. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | You can save a woman from a rapist or a child from a pedophile. Not both |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 6:24:37 PM #13 | MrMelodramatic posted... But the rapist has raped before. We have no idea what the pedophile has done. Probably nothing tbh. The rapist could be gay, but the pedophile definitely likes children. We also know he's a pedophile so he's probably done something in the past. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | You can save a woman from a rapist or a child from a pedophile. Not both |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 6:16:17 PM #10 | MrMelodramatic posted... Save the woman. Pedophile isnt necessarily someone who will hurt the kid. A rapist doesn't necessarily want to rape the woman. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Trumponomics: Let's make Ameruca expensive again.. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 3:03:12 PM #8 | Lokarin posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...yourDaddie posted...Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Are you implying houses are affordable, but people just buy too many TVs? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Trumponomics: Let's make Ameruca expensive again.. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 2:58:02 PM #4 | yourDaddie posted... Do you really want to go back to the time when the middle class was only able to afford 1 tv, 1 car. Etc per household? Considering how they also bought their house, yh pls. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | My two cents, for what they're worth. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 2:31:37 PM #12 | Lokarin posted... My two cents is that while a borderless world would be better in general, Only if people were culturally homogeneous. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | My two cents, for what they're worth. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 2:11:49 PM #10 | SunWuKung420 posted... It's too bad the English settlers didn't follow the same rules. The English settlers invaded, you learnt your lesson, you now have measures to protect against invasions. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 2:02:07 PM #83 | Phantom_Nook posted... OhhhJa posted...The irony is that the far left are closer to white supremacists that any of the right For note, your use of "actual" indicates your lack of understanding of what he meant. If a white country says a non-white country can't help itself but it's the responsibility of ol' whitey to save their people and sort out their problems for them, it implies the white country sees itself as superior to the non-white country. This is a theme of the US left that suggests that the democrats doesn't see non-whites as equals but rather as savages impoverished by the nature of who they are. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:53:11 PM #79 | adjl posted... I'd love to hear why you think that's comparable. With numbers. Good luck. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/acid-attack-violence-in-london-soars-by-more-than-78-per-cent-a3736516.html https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/01/22/americas/mexico-murders-2017/index.html 78% increase vs 23% increase, London is getting worse quicker so my concern in my country grows quicker than Mexico's. (Note: I am not claiming London is in a worse condition, only that the situation is worsening quicker). adjl posted... You're very much fixating on a different issue to avoid admitting that you said something stupid when you said that these people only have themselves to blame for increasing their risk of getting murdered. Not at all. They still can't justify leaving because their shithole has gained a little more poop recently, they only get to leave when a crisis takes place and they can seek refuge. While they are not to blame for the risk increasing (don't put words in my mouth), they are to blame for not lowering it. adjl posted... You seem to be conflating all of Mexico with the decisions of individual immigrants, and I'm not really sure why. It's really not unreasonable to say "I'm going to die if I stay here, I'm going to go somewhere where I'll have a better chance," even if that other chance also isn't that great. It's not unreasonable, but by the same token it's not unreasonable to say "They may be at risk of dying if we don't let them in, but if we let them in we may actually endangering our own so we best not let them in.". It's also not unreasonable for them to say "I'm probably going to die if I stay here, but I'm going to fight the cartel with my suffering neighbours to chase a better chance for my kids," even if that chance also isn't that great. adjl posted... It's also not unreasonable for that destination country to take steps to ensure that those immigrants aren't going to be harmful. Oh so we agree. adjl posted... It is, however, unreasonable for the destination country to fabricate a migrant crisis by closing legal border crossings then commit flagrant human rights violations that they try to justify by citing said migrant crisis. lol "fabricate" the drugs crossing to such a degree that users were wide spread enough to get their drug decriminalised. Also, citations please. I'm sure people would entertain your point if you could prove the US blocked legal immigration. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Countries are trying to ban the, Burqa/Niqab. Do not fall for it. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:32:10 PM #24 | Nichtcrawler X posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...That explains the lack of sand protection for men. I see an unprotected face. If it's just sand protection then their faces should be covered too. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Countries are trying to ban the, Burqa/Niqab. Do not fall for it. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:23:22 PM #21 | Nichtcrawler X posted... Also, when asking in those regions, people will never say the outfit is cultural, just practical against the sand in the wind. It only really became a cultural identifier outside the original regions. That explains the lack of sand protection for men. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:21:28 PM #37 | adjl posted... Except that sexual assaults are notoriously under-investigated. Sure, once you get into court, the burden of proof is applied reasonably, but if the facts haven't been properly collected in the first place, you're not going to end up with a verdict that reflects the facts. A sexual assault case isn't going to have much evidence to begin with, so unless you feel you actually have evidence, I don't know why you would seek prosecution. Regardless of how you have been wronged, it's not the job of the law to listen and believe. So please, explain to me what would be not "properly collected" evidence in a case which lacks much to find in the first place. If you believe evidence wasn't collected then you must know it exists yet not present it. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Families earning $117,000/yr now qualify as 'low-income' in Bay area California. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:16:55 PM #19 | Why are poor people living in expensive areas? Did you have rich parents but they abandoned you? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:14:54 PM #77 | adjl posted... Furthermore, you kind of dodged the actual point of that passage. Shall I interpret that as you admitting that one's risk of being murdered depends on factors beyond one's own actions? Not that accepting empirical reality like that should really be worth remarking on, but you do seem to be having some trouble with the concept. That is true but also not the US's responsibility. They are still capable of reducing their risk by taking action as a group, but if this becomes too difficult then the world can reasonably recognise Mexico as a place people need to seek refuge from. If this occurs then Mexicans can cross and apply for refugee status legitimately. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:11:36 PM #76 | adjl posted... There are literally towns in Mexico that have been taken over by drug cartels within the past few years, who are quite happy to brutally murder people to scare the rest of the town into compliance. It has absolutely risen by a significant degree. Pay attention. Oh well my city has had a steep rise in acid attacks in the last few years, hold on while I immigrate to Japan to escape my city's problems. adjl posted... As in, the cartels running the town wanted to use the kid as a drug mule and the parents opted to run away instead of complying or saying no and being murdered for doing so. Not "my kid's dealing drugs I'd better move him to a better environment." My apologies, I didn't realize you were so ignorant of the situation in Mexico as to be unable to figure out what I meant. I hope this clarifies it for you. Are you really so ignorant as to flirt with the issue but not see it? Both acts occur and we can't filter them apart if they don't go through the immigration process. Some Mexicans suffering at home is not justification to bring other people to the US who will make citizens suffer in their home. adjl posted... What power do you think ordinary citizens have to clean up Mexico's drug scene? Ordinary people voted in Trump, ordinary people started the cartels, ordinary people became vigilantes to hunt down the cartels in Mexico. The people of Mexico made Mexico a cartel, so the people of Mexico can make it something else. If Mexico wants America's help then it can ask for that, but it can't give up and sneak in to safety. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 1:00:27 PM #35 | adjl posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...As I alluded to, the word "reliable". What else could the world reliable mean in the context of holding somebody accountable? Reliable implies consistency to some degree and you don't even know if their verdicts are wrong. Their job is to examine the facts and decide if the evidence is sufficient to determine guilt, this is no different in cases of sexual assault and so you cant claim a discrepancy with sexual assault cases. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:47:26 PM #31 | adjl posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...If all sexual assault claims were reliably turned in to prosecutions, you'd have a lot of wrongful arrests. As I alluded to, the word "reliable". What else could the world reliable mean in the context of holding somebody accountable? If you take somebody to court then they are already made to give their account and justify what they did. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:32:22 PM #74 | adjl posted... In many cases, that something is "living in a town that has more murderers now than it did 20 years ago." I doubt it rised a significant degree to close up on the danger they weren't subject to prior, and regardless that is a reason to fix your country not run. adjl posted... In many other cases, that something is "not wanting their child to be a drug mule." The US doesn't want your child drug mules either. adjl posted... For somebody who doesn't see the problem with "letting all these muslims into the country is going to get us all jihadi-bombed!", you seem to have a strange amount of difficulty understanding that one's risk of getting murdered can be dependent on factors other than one's personal decisions to endanger themselves. You have no sense of nuance. You are responsible for your problems. The US is morally responsible for criminals crossing the border and Mexico is morally responsible for being a hub of criminality. You don't get to run from your problems and defer responsibility down the line. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:24:08 PM #71 | adjl posted... For another, you're presuming the destination country can't do anything to improve that risk of being raped, which is also objectively false. They can build a wall to physically stop smugglers. Oh wait, that's what's happening! --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:22:05 PM #70 | adjl posted... For one thing, you're presuming the risk of getting murdered hasn't changed over the course of those parents lives, which is objectively false. If they've done something to make themselves a target of murder that they successfully avoided until now, they aren't people you want in your country. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:19:26 PM #68 | darkknight109 posted... Because it's not like situations can ever change, right? If you weren't murdered in 7500 days then you could try to claim 7500/1 odds you'll be murdered tomorrow (unless you did something to bait getting killed which leads to another kettle of fish). If you try to cross the border tomorrow then statistics show you have a 4/5 chance of being raped. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 12:12:27 PM #28 | adjl posted... Male victims of sexual assault don't need reliable legal recourse for holding their attackers accountable? "reliable" If all sexual assault claims were reliably turned in to prosecutions, you'd have a lot of wrongful arrests. You have appropriate legal recourse. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:52:47 AM #28 | Sarcasthma posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...Sarcasthma posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...OhhhJa posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...OhhhJa posted...I prefer warm water but most sinks dont heat up that fast and I'm not about to stand around and wait 15 to 30 seconds to wash my hands 5 seconds isn't instant and I stayed in cheap 1LDKs. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | is Terry Crews the most open transparent celebrity right now? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:50:55 AM #25 | adjl posted... I'm just wondering where all those MRA's are that keep bringing up the treatment of sexual assault against males whenever anybody suggests sexual assault against females should be taken more seriously. You'd think they'd be tripping over themselves to praise Crews' courage and offer their support, given how much of a trailblazer he's being for that cause. Because MRAs don't think the law needs to change to suit them regarding sexual harassment. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | My two cents, for what they're worth. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:34:46 AM #3 | Ogurisama posted... It's only worth two cents --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:31:05 AM #23 | OhhhJa posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...Mead posted...Ive lived all across the US in rural and metro areas and in all of those places it took a little bit to get hot water from the sink tap. Thats just how pipes work. I have a brain of the British Empire. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I didn't know America had children concentration camps |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:30:10 AM #63 | adjl posted... Peterass posted...They don't. This is nothing new. They entered the country illegally, giving a big FU to citizens and immigrants following the rules. Shame on parents from bringing kids into a situation that that know is wrong. Taking their kids through a situation with an 80% rape risk is worse than staying put in a situation where you could get murdered but it hasn't happened to you for the life you grew up and had children in. Low risk of terrible situation is better than high risk of bad situation. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:24:40 AM #20 | Mead posted... Ive lived all across the US in rural and metro areas and in all of those places it took a little bit to get hot water from the sink tap. Thats just how pipes work. The entire US is third world. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 11:23:43 AM #19 | Sarcasthma posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...OhhhJa posted...Kyuubi4269 posted...OhhhJa posted...I prefer warm water but most sinks dont heat up that fast and I'm not about to stand around and wait 15 to 30 seconds to wash my hands Airbnb. OhhhJa posted... As far as I know America has access to the same super secret water heating tech as England. Do you guys have a water heater hooked directly up to every sink and shower because plumbing just doesn't work that way. The hot water has to travel through the pipes to get to your sink and if it's not hooked directly up to it, its gonna take on average like 10 seconds if not longer I don't live on a plantation so the boiler isn't acres away. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Why is it "deportation"? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:59:27 AM #4 | Mead posted... Most are actually refugees "most" --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I'm an illegal immigrant. Are you gonna deport ME, American? HUH? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:58:48 AM #65 | Mead posted... MalfuntcionJUNCITOM posted...Mead posted...Someone being born outside of this country does not make them less valuable as a person. And they take the legal route in. As for tossing people out, you need somewhere to send them. Illegal immigrants have a home country. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Angela Merkel is a conservative |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:51:34 AM #16 | Lokarin posted... Metal_Mario99 posted...Mead posted...Even Obama was barely a liberal as a president, but according to a lot of conservatives he was further left than Jimmy Carter Regardless, that's a different axis. You don't argue with a non-contradictory statement. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Why is it "deportation"? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:48:56 AM #2 | The opposite of immigration is emigration, and they are exiting by way of a port. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | I'm an illegal immigrant. Are you gonna deport ME, American? HUH? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:33:46 AM #59 | Mead posted... It does actually I think they shouldn't risk their lives sneaking with smugglers. If it's a no-win game then they may as well take the proper channels. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:25:39 AM #11 | OhhhJa posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...OhhhJa posted...I prefer warm water but most sinks dont heat up that fast and I'm not about to stand around and wait 15 to 30 seconds to wash my hands Not in your third world country. It's like 5 seconds tops here, same deal in Japan. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Do you wash your hands with Hot or Cold water? |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 10:06:17 AM #8 | OhhhJa posted... I prefer warm water but most sinks dont heat up that fast and I'm not about to stand around and wait 15 to 30 seconds to wash my hands Do you live in a third world country where somebody boils a kettle to give you warm water? --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Apparently sex dolls can now refuse sex |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 6:03:58 AM #87 | ParanoidObsessive posted... On the other hand, they also didn't realize that anyone would have a problem with always-on online connectivity, or that a lot of people would prefer physical media over digital download. Not "on the other hand". They knew people like having space to store their stuff and know that forcing people on to something for no benefit is not for them. This is a management issue, not software engineers. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Just started My Hero Academia. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 5:21:01 AM #22 | Revelation34 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted...Typically an event or characteristic justifies hentai, frogs aren't typical fetish fuel. Being human isn't motivation enough to make hentai. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Apparently sex dolls can now refuse sex |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 5:20:21 AM #83 | ParanoidObsessive posted... Arguably, that was what hurt the Xbox One pre-release - the engineers packed in features and ideas that they thought were great Software engineers didn't think forcing connect to check who's watching films was great. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
| Topic | Just started My Hero Academia. |
| Kyuubi4269 06/28/18 5:07:22 AM #20 | Revelation34 posted... aHappySacka posted...I haven't gotten into it yet but is all that hentai of the frog girl justified? Typically an event or characteristic justifies hentai, frogs aren't typical fetish fuel. --- Scloud posted... Its like he wants two things at the same time. |
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