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SK played really really poorly that game lmao
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COVxy posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

:^)

http://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1921

I'm too lazy to try this, but what happens if you use the inverse distance as the norm instead? Shouldn't that produce something like the right panel?
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Regression is a very important tool in statistical analysis - you should know this COVxy

:^)
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Another excerpt from the report, emphasizing that "just leaving" an abusive partner isn't so easy:

In 15 out of the 19 cases where the victim was murdered by a partner or previous partner, the victim was killed in connection to a separation. The act was in almost all cases made shortly after the victim had left the offender or after the victim had expressed a wish to leave the offender. Jealousy and suspicions of cheating or the fact that the victim had met a new partner had often fueled the events.

As for honor-related killings, two cases (out of the 21) were clearly honor-related and in two more cases the Social services say that there were indications of honor-related motives.
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It's summed up with the following statement (again translated by me):
Of the 21 offenders, everyone had one or more of the following life situations: Mental illness, risk or addiction problems, unemployment, asylum seeker, or previously sentenced for violent crime against a close or previously close person.
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....but I can give you more detailed info from the report I linked (translation by me):

Sex. 20 offenders were men, 1 was a woman.
Age. From less than 18 years old to over 80 years old. Average age was 39.
Relation to the victim. 19 of the offenders killed their partner or previous partner, 2 killed another family member.
Time in Sweden. A fifth of the offenders had been in Sweden for a maximum of three years when they committed the act. Some were asylum seekers.
Unemployment. Two thirds of the offenders of a working age and available to the market were unemployed.
Mental illness. Half of the offenders suffered from varying degrees of mental illness, whereof a majority had a diagnosed personality disorder or serious mental disorder. Half of the ones suffering from mental illness had experienced suicidal thoughts or had attempted suicide.
Risk or addiction problems. Half of the offenders had problems with alcohol, narcotics, or gambling.
Previous violent crimes. A fourth of the offenders had at least one previous sentence related to violent crime against a close or previously close person. Out of these some had been convicted for crime against the murder victim, or against another family member.

(side note: out of the 21 victims, 19 were women and 2 were men)
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Trayvon posted...

I bet most of these were committed by men of cultural differences

The article mentions that one of the government agencies that is involved is the Migration office. So what you're saying isn't wholly unlikely.
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I couldn't managed to get the Google Translate thing working, so you'll have to copy paste and translate the text. But I'll give you a tl;dr. Here's the article in Swedish:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/sa-ska-livshotande-vald-i-hemmet-forhindras

Essentially, during 2016 and 2017, the Swedish social services investigated 21 deaths that occurred due to violence in close/intimate relationships. It turns out that in all 21 cases, the victim had reached out to an authority before they died. The report (in Swedish) is here:
https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/Lists/Artikelkatalog/Attachments/20860/2018-1-37.pdf

The rest of the article essentially talks about how the involved government agencies have to get better at cooperating and preventing these kinds of things.

This story made me think of a discussion I had on CE the other day where a user said something like "The women can just leave their husbands, since divorce is legal". I hope from this that it's clear that this is not always the case in abusive relationships, and that society is failing to give these victims proper support.
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Obviously if you're only drinking beer to get drunk then it's useless. But then so is beer, you could drink literally anything with alcohol
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Some years ago there weren't many good options. Now there are several non-alcoholic beers that are really good.
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Gafemage posted...

Gafemage posted...

Worst in the developed world? Aww, Crepes.

this was the corniest shit ever im sorry CE

I dunno I liked it
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Iceland
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Howl posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Regardless of the reviews, it's quite a fair point that white men make up 80% of the critics, no?

Not really. That shouldn't honestly even be a job. How can a person's opinion of a movie matter more than anyone else's?

close your account please
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Esrac posted...

That's bulls***, because all white men don't all have the same perspective. You're coming very close to pushing some kind of racial and gender monolithic essentialism.

Please see my revised phrasing. My point isn't about all white men having the same perspective, it's about the perspectives of other demographics that don't get heard.
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HiddenLurker posted...

No because if that is your excuse then all movies with white male leads would always have positive ratings from white male reviewers. Which of course is not true.

No, because I'm not saying that while male reviewers will always prefer movies movies with white male leads. Generally, one could try and make a similar case, along the lines of "movies are made by men, rated by men, so they will perpetuate norms and structures". But I don't think it's necessary to even go that far. It's enough to acknowledge that a diverse set of critics would offer more perspectives than a set of critics dominated by one demographic.
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YourDrunkFather posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Esrac posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Regardless of the reviews, it's quite a fair point that white men make up 80% of the critics, no?

Fair in the sense that it may be factually true. But not particularly relevant.

Unless you believe white men can't fairly review a movie that stars women, for some reason. But then you would have to explain away all the times those white men gave movies starring women positive reviews.

Of course white men can fairly review things. But when the critics are dominated by white men, one perspective will dominate.Especially in criticism, I think it's important that many perspectives are heard.

Because all white men think the same and all have the same experiences right?

I'm sorry, it was a clumsy wording from my side. Let's try and rephrase:
But when the critics are dominated by white men, several perspectives will be underrepresented/missing. Especially in criticism, I think it's important that many perspectives are heard.
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Esrac posted...

scar the 1 posted...

Regardless of the reviews, it's quite a fair point that white men make up 80% of the critics, no?

Fair in the sense that it may be factually true. But not particularly relevant.

Unless you believe white men can't fairly review a movie that stars women, for some reason. But then you would have to explain away all the times those white men gave movies starring women positive reviews.

Of course white men can fairly review things. But when the critics are dominated by white men, one perspective will dominate. Especially in criticism, I think it's important that many perspectives are heard.
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Regardless of the reviews, it's quite a fair point that white men make up 80% of the critics, no?
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What a fantastic topic with civilized, yet provocative, comments on the subject matter.
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From what I heard, wasn't this in response to Christian group, rather than just saying it out of nowhere?
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Which are your ten favorite stage musicals, and what are the memorable acts from each of them
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averagejoel posted...

even if it did as much damage, it took 2 turns to dish it out, so it's effectively halved. it still gave the opponent time to switch out. it also made the user extra vulnerable to Earthquake.

Yeah but who cared about that in gen 1, really? There were barely any battle sims with graphics, so competitive play wasn't really huge. And the meta was really poor anyway. Dig was great in-game.
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"Brain-dead" seems like a bit of an insecure epithet to slap onto comedians with opinions you don't like.
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BatmanWTtP posted...

This could be true, the problem is that it isn't shown or established. If a character in the background had said something about Ellie because of her orientation, or Ellie had been known as a closeted or afraid to show her sexuality this would have been an actual important moment for the character, but it's not shown as that, it's just "look how gay she is"

To be perfectly clear "look how gay she is" is your interpretation. I don't share that impression at all.

BatmanWTtP posted...

My problem is that this tactic will be used going forward and change the way games are written and perceived. The game is being used to send a message which is going to impact gaming as a whole.

Break this down to me. What is "gaming as a whole", and how will it be impacted?
EDIT: And please answer the question If you're genuinely concerned that sexual orientation is used as a marketing tool, why not let gay women be offended by it and empower their voice? It's their identity that is ostensibly used for nefarious, capitalist purposes, let them be heard, listen to how they feel about this. Otherwise, aren't you just an SJW getting offended on behalf of someone else?
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Two things:

BatmanWTtP posted...

In that trailer, what did it matter that Ellie was gay? The trailer plot was "Ellie is at a dance, she has a moment of peace, we're shown an intense moment, and then we return to the peaceful moment." Why was such a large focus placed on Ellie's sexual orientation. If the dance scene had opened up with Ellie and her girlfriend dancing or the "everyone is staring" part was cut this wouldn't be an issue. The problem comes with Ellie's sexual orientation being used as a selling point and the focus of trailer where it is irrelevant to the overall plot of the trailer.

I could be misreading it, but with the bluegrass music local traditional dance party, the setting seemed to be like some southern small town. This impression was reinforced by the couple's acute awareness that everyone was staring. So to me it seems like an relevant part of Ellie's background, that her relationship with the community might be a little bit of being shunned because she's openly gay. But then again, isn't that a bit difficult to say before we know more?

But much more importantly:
BatmanWTtP posted...

Let me put it this way. Why is a character's sexual orientation being used to market a zombie game? This isn't the coming of age story of a lesbian coming to terms with her sexuality and accepting herself, it's the story of a zombie apocalypse, yet the selling point of the game right now isn't the game play, or the story itself, the selling point and focus of the marketing is "Ellie is gay, look how gay she is".

If you're genuinely concerned that sexual orientation is used as a marketing tool, why not let gay women be offended by it and empower their voice? It's their identity that is ostensibly used for nefarious, capitalist purposes, let them be heard, listen to how they feel about this. Otherwise, aren't you just an SJW getting offended on behalf of someone else?
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BatmanWTtP posted...

That's the problem, her sexual orientation isn't part of the story. It shouldn't matter if she's a lesbian or not. The problem is that she no longer gay because she's gay, she's now gay so it can be used for marketing.

Let's assume that her girlfriend dies and the story is about revenge. There are two ways to market this.

Our main character's girlfriend is murdered and our main character sets out for revenge.
Or
Our gay main character's gay girlfriend is murdered and our gay main character sets out for revenge.

Her being gay doesn't matter to the overall story, it's being used as nothing but a selling point.

So, the scene in the trailer, is it from the game or not? Because it seems like their dancing and kissing drew attention from the people at the dance. Is that not part of the story?
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Master_Bass posted...

That being said, these are some weird racist views.

Not sure how weird they are. I can think of some American lawmakers who would probably hold similar views if the cup were held in the US. I'm certain that they'd be more afraid to give voice to them as openly and brashly, though, but these sentiments aren't unique to Russia. Even if they're pretty bad there, and probably a lot more normalized.
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Ving_Rhames posted...

I mean, it's Russia. Why would anyone want to go there anyway lmao

To watch the most popular sporting event in the world?
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Good talk, friend
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BatmanWTtP posted...

The kiss being straight would change the entire trailer. The trailer opens with Ellie being "hit on" by the guy, the entire reason for this is so that it's a surprise twist when her girlfriend shows up. You could cut the guy out of the trailer and nothing significant changes. The whole "Everyone is staring" is about drawing attention to them being lesbians. The trailer revolved around them being lesbians and was built with it in mind.

It sounds like you're saying that her sexual orientation and people's reaction to it is a part of the story?
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BatmanWTtP posted...

If it was a straight kiss it wouldn't be the focus of the trailer or the marketing. You're all trying to turn this into an issue of it being over a gay kiss and that's not what it is. Why is it a big deal that a character is gay? Gay characters have existed before and were in the first Last of Us, so why is it suddenly being used as the marketing and focus of the game?

No no. I'm asking, if nothing else changed except for the kiss being straight - would you take issue with it? It's yes or no.
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frozenshock posted...

Valid point. But in the context, when one lawmakers talks about the dangers of sex with foreigners and another talks about the spread of STDs, its hard not to interpret it as some kind of weird racism.

Sure, I'm just saying your point is just as strong without this part, in fact imo it's stronger without it.
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Would it bother you if it were a heterosexual kiss?
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frozenshock posted...

What, so non-russians are carriers of infectious diseases now? I didn't know Russians were in such perfect health

Eh, I think this is unnecessary spin on an already bad statement. This particular part is true, massive sporting events do help in spreading STDs.
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Or a CD disc, huh
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Ricemills posted...

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Ricemills posted...

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88.36 dollars pesos?

you do know that mexican peso also use $ symbol, right?

Actually I didn't know that. So the title should be read "88.36 pesos pesos"?

if you read $4.33 USD as "4.33 dollars dollars", yeah.

I do. But I suppose it's actually correct? I'd expect $4.33 US to be correct but I'm not fluent.
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Ricemills posted...

scar the 1 posted...

88.36 dollars pesos?

you do know that mexican peso also use $ symbol, right?

Actually I didn't know that. So the title should be read "88.36 pesos pesos"?
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88.36 dollars pesos?
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I've been to Estes Park. Super beautiful nature.
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eston posted...

My understanding is that historical context has proven it to be a system ripe for abuse

To be fair, I don't think we've ever seen it implemented outside of the context of patriarchy.
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Is "shook" the latest flavor of "u mad"?
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What's wrong with 538?
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I don't really care what you think, I just disagree.
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Ryetoast posted...

Man some of these miniatures have not aged well...

scar the 1 posted...

Ryetoast posted...

The Nazghuls could probably take them.

It's not explained in the movies and not very well explained in the books, but essentially the biggest argument against it IMO is the Ring itself. The more powerful someone is, the more tempted they will be. This is why Hobbits are so resilient, they have no great ambitions to feed. The Eagles are very powerful and would likely be tempted by the Ring. That, and Sauron would see them coming and just shoot them.

Interesting.

There's that, and there's also that they're actually servants of a god with their own mission. So they're busy doing stuff. Gwaihir saved Gandalf because he was passing by and owed him a favor or something like that. They're not just Gandalf's pets at least.
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Ryetoast posted...

The Nazghuls could probably take them.

It's not explained in the movies and not very well explained in the books, but essentially the biggest argument against it IMO is the Ring itself. The more powerful someone is, the more tempted they will be. This is why Hobbits are so resilient, they have no great ambitions to feed. The Eagles are very powerful and would likely be tempted by the Ring. That, and Sauron would see them coming and just shoot them.
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Oh and it was 17 years.
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Ryetoast posted...

That or the first half is rushed. Like here comes Arwyn and she has magic that can call horses?.

Well, we're already told that elves have magic powers. It's true that the movies don't explain as much as the books, but that's because the movies and the books aren't related. The only similarity is that some characters and places across them share names.
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Parappa09 posted...

i drink more american whiskey so i'm gonna go with that

Good God that's literally horrifying
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