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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
06/01/18 5:26:03 PM
#142
Suprak the Stud posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
So yeah, f*** right off with me not knowing about these things. I HAVE to know about these things or my dad f***ing dies. I know because I let him self-medicate for a while and he proceeded to crash a f***ing car into a ditch.

Congratulations, you can read a list of side effects. Please tell me when you understand the agent's MOA and its activity on a person's neurophysiology.

You have made a factually incorrect assumption in your previous post. Not sure why you are even bothering to dispute this when you know you were just guessing based on anecdotal experience.


As someone who is actually a chemist and is actually working in pharmacology right now, I think I outrank you on "knowing what I'm talking about" and can say you don't really know what you're talking about.

At least, you are greatly over exaggerating the negative effectives while minimizes the positives of ambien over its closest competitors. You're "working" on a competitor now (I'm assuming you aren't a chemist or scientist based on the way you talk so far so you must be on the business end of it?) - the people around you are likely to over exaggerate the benefits of their product specifically because they're trying to market it at the moment. They're not going to go "yeah ambien is ok but the side effects of this are slightly less serious" which if I had to guess is the actuality of the situation.

That being said, I think the truth of the situation is somewhere between the rock and seph. Ambien does have some potentially nasty side effects and one of them is dependence. It can also lead to some really bizarre side effects in an extreme minority of people. The vast majority report no negative side effects at all, so this is something to keep in mind. All these anecdotes of "well my uncle took it and went to North Dakota and started a bluegrass band" are just anecdotes, and do not affect 99% of people that take the drug. This is also a short term sort of thing, and Roseanne has been coming right up to the border of comments like this for years now. If she was sorry (and it was the ambien) there would not have been so many similar comments OR she would have apologized before this for comments that are out of her character.

In fact, there is no evidence ambien correlates to the violent behaviors suggested in this topic like "hacking their wife to death". That was a desperate defense thought up by a lawyer to save his client without ANY medical evidence, and if you believe that I'm sure you also believe the Twinkie defense and affluenza are both perfectly valid defenses and not crazy Hail Marys throw by a defense attorney because their client was screwed otherwise.

Still though pharmaceutical companies should stay out of stuff like this for a myriad of reasons.

I never said that everyone on Ambien experiences psychosis. I said it's extremely stupid, misleading and FACTUALLY INCORRECT for Sanofi to say definitively that their drug can't cause people to say uncharacteristically racist shit. It's completely irresponsible.
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:44:48 PM
#425
I meant in Q4. The call you said decided the game.
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:41:44 PM
#418
Corrik posted...
And this is what happens when the refs decide a game and then decide to escalate it with a bullshit foul call with 2 seconds left. Refs should be fired

What did the refs do
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:39:55 PM
#411
KommunistKoala posted...
that's literally just corrik. and he was talking about something else

A few others mentioned it... unless he has alts...
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:38:57 PM
#409
TheRock1525 posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
I completely missed the play everyone's referring to. Summary?


Missed FT, JR Smith gets the rebound with four seconds left in a tie game.
Dribbles it out the three point line, leaving no time left.
Literally says to LeBron "I thought we were ahead."

Xmfd no way
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:38:28 PM
#407
KommunistKoala posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
I completely missed the play everyone's referring to. Summary?

https://streamable.com/l266i

What ref call was blown...?
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:37:02 PM
#402
I completely missed the play everyone's referring to. Summary?
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 11:01:44 PM
#352
ShatteredElysium posted...
They have 4 players who likely make HoF when all is said and done. Yes they are that broken

5 if Iggy makes it. The HOF let Mitch Richmond in ffs.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 10:35:30 PM
#130
TheRock1525 posted...
So yeah, f*** right off with me not knowing about these things. I HAVE to know about these things or my dad f***ing dies. I know because I let him self-medicate for a while and he proceeded to crash a f***ing car into a ditch.

Congratulations, you can read a list of side effects. Please tell me when you understand the agent's MOA and its activity on a person's neurophysiology.

You have made a factually incorrect assumption in your previous post. Not sure why you are even bothering to dispute this when you know you were just guessing based on anecdotal experience.
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 10:13:03 PM
#305
UltimaterializerX posted...
We played like pure dog shit and this game is somehow tied.

Probably because the Cavs are a bad team
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TopicWhat's the best 'single' game?
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 10:05:50 PM
#72
Xenogears

Saga and Blade are not sequels
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 9:31:23 PM
#269
Corrik posted...
HotDogButts posted...
he got hit with the full weight of a man in the side of his knee with his leg planted

he's definitely hurt

He wouldn't be walking the way he was if he was seriously hurt. He will be back in a few minutes.

Bryant, Kobe.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 9:30:26 PM
#126
neonreaper posted...
Just in case you were curious where the bias came from

"Bias" meaning I know how the drug's mechanism of action works and it annoys me to see people smugly spewing nonsense.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 9:22:56 PM
#124
TheRock1525 posted...
That's my point! Ambien makes you do things that are things you'd instinctively want to do, but that sensible filter usually rules out.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about dude. Ambien has caused people to hack up their spouse with knives.

I worked on a next-generation sleeping aid that is preparing to supplant Ambien because it's a terrible drug. The parts of the brain Ambien activates are not exclusively "logical." It is not like sleepwalking.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:57:46 PM
#120
TheRock1525 posted...
My dad has been on ambien for almost 10 years and has never said racist shit while on it.

He has, however, bought shit off the internet that I would have to contact them and be like "we really don't want foreign language CDs."

Exactly. People do things that don't make sense.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:55:42 PM
#118
Leafeon13N posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
Even if it did cause aggressive outbursts those aren't going to be racist unless you are actually racist.

That's not even remotely true

Do you think the same goes for people with Tourette's who scream "n*****"?


You are confusing aggression with uncontrollable brain function.

If a racist takes medication that prevents them from expressing themselves, are they suddenly not racist?

Ambien causes delusions, aggression, hallucinations. People have literally murdered their loved ones because of it. It's absolutely absurd to say for certain that it's impossible for someone to say/do things they don't mean while on it.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:53:04 PM
#117
Jakyl25 posted...
It wasnt a particularly aggressive racist outburst...seems like she just thought it was funny

Oh I'm not doubting she would never think/say such things. I just think it's irresponsible for the makes of an addictive drug that causes serious neurologic side effects to make such a snarky comment about someone who is potentially abusing their product.
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:44:47 PM
#114
Leafeon13N posted...
Even if it did cause aggressive outbursts those aren't going to be racist unless you are actually racist.

That's not even remotely true

Do you think the same goes for people with Tourette's who scream "n*****"?
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TopicRoseanne Cancelled
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:35:10 PM
#112
Blackscar posted...
Matt Drudge: 'New Low' for Ambien Maker to Mock Roseanne 'While They Drug a Generation'

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE/status/1001859019814748161

It's true, considering Ambien literally does cause aggressive behavior (eg, racist outbursts).

I hope sanofi gets fucking sued by the fda for that tweet
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Topic~MLB Official Discuss Topic 2: The Times They Are A Changin'~
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:32:29 PM
#157
All 5 Yankees championships in my lifetime were special :)
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:15:47 PM
#253
ScareChan posted...
Question

Does rose or wade get rings if the cavs win?

That's something that happens right or is that just baseball

I would assume they do since they theoretically helped get them to the playoffs
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TopicBest of the Trope Day 4: The Ascended Extra
Nelson_Mandela
05/31/18 8:15:11 PM
#52
Zack Fair, guys
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Topic~MLB Official Discuss Topic 2: The Times They Are A Changin'~
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 7:25:45 PM
#139
Lol
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TopicOdds I can snag 5 NES Classics?
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 1:06:33 PM
#11
Jakyl25 posted...
Would any of them prefer the SNES Classic?

I feel like the NES one would be better for those who aren't "gamers." More nostalgia. I dunno.
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TopicOdds I can snag 5 NES Classics?
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 11:58:35 AM
#9
Thanks bud. Getting hitched in September.
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TopicOdds I can snag 5 NES Classics?
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 11:47:58 AM
#6
Yeah I was hopeful that the SNES classic would dilute the hype.
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TopicOdds I can snag 5 NES Classics?
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 11:42:01 AM
#3
Jakyl25 posted...
I thought you hated digital copies of games!

It's for my friends who are generally more adjusted than me ;)
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 11:37:19 AM
#238
This you, Bryan?, Enoughunkownsources claimed to know Colangelo. No - but thanks for the compliment! they answered. He is too classy to even engage. Worked with him: he is a class act.


Best part
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TopicOdds I can snag 5 NES Classics?
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 11:21:55 AM
#1
I think it might be a cool gift for my groomsmen.

Is there any place to pre-order the re-release?
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/30/18 7:59:20 AM
#230
Smurf running the sixers
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Topic~MLB Official Discuss Topic 2: The Times They Are A Changin'~
Nelson_Mandela
05/29/18 10:09:12 PM
#116
WiggumFan267 posted...
AND NOW FUCKING MATZ IS OUT OF THE FUCKING GAME WITH AN INJURY

just as he was starting to be good again.

HOW CAN THSI TEAM BE SO FUCKING CURSED YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT

NO ONE HAS IT EVEN ONE TRILLIONTH AS BAD AS WE DO

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHY THE FUCK DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENIGN TO ME WHY DOES MY TEAM KEEP FUCKING DOING THIS TO ME EVEYR FUCKIGN EYAR IC ANT FUCKIGN TSAKE THIS ANYMORE FUCK MY FUCKING LIFE

FUCK MY EXISTENCE

FUCK EVERYTHIGN

FUCK CARING ABOTU ANYTHIGN

LIFE IS A MEANINGLESS PIECE OF SHIT

fuck

life.

@ExThaNemesis lol
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Topic~MLB Official Discuss Topic 2: The Times They Are A Changin'~
Nelson_Mandela
05/29/18 5:10:24 PM
#107
I dunno he's pretty good at hitting women
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Topic~MLB Official Discuss Topic 2: The Times They Are A Changin'~
Nelson_Mandela
05/29/18 1:45:18 PM
#100
DeGrom trade to the Yanks imminent
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 8:43:13 PM
#88
Thanks for beating me to it, Leon.

Horry the goat
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 8:42:01 PM
#86
UltimaterializerX posted...
The only stats that matter in sports are wins and losses

Glad you now agree that LeBron is one of the worst superstars of all time!
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 7:24:48 PM
#60
Corrik posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Corrik posted...
Rockets. Ratings will tank if it's golden state

Lol what

Warriors have 2/3 of the most marketable stars in the NBA and a larger tv market

4 blowout games versus 6 or 7 closer games. Which you think will make more money and have higher ratings?

Spoilers the rockets are still sweeping Cleveland
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 7:00:23 PM
#57
Corrik posted...
Rockets. Ratings will tank if it's golden state

Lol what

Warriors have 2/3 of the most marketable stars in the NBA and a larger tv market
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TopicWhat game series has the best main theme?
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 6:56:06 PM
#2
Prelude for final fantasy
Zelda theme
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/28/18 6:53:51 PM
#55
Warriors and Durant is going to put up 50 just to make extha buttmad
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:34:28 PM
#9
HotDogButts posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
*checks Twitter*

Well, I guess everyone decided that this would be LeBron's goat coronation, likely because it would be pretty silly to have that conversation with Durant or Harden hoisting the Finals MVP trophy after 4 games.


you're not going to tell your grandchildren about the time LeBron beat Jason Tatum in his rookie year?

Yes of course, and I'll also be recounting how he and his superteam went to war with Roy Hibbert in '13
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TopicNBA playoffs 2018 general topic 2: How the West was won!
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:26:48 PM
#6
*checks Twitter*

Well, I guess everyone decided that this would be LeBron's goat coronation, likely because it would be pretty silly to have that conversation with Durant or Harden hoisting the Finals MVP trophy after 4 games.
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:10:47 PM
#492
UltimaterializerX posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Told you the Cavs had this.

They're winning the title, too.

Bruh did you see how terribly they played tonight?

They played like dog shit two years ago, too.

They had 3 superstars on that team
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:09:55 PM
#488
Why is everyone sucking off LeBron for beating a second string team who couldn't score 80 points at home?
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:06:01 PM
#483
CIoudStrife posted...
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Lmfao Boston

Excited for LeBron to inch up to the #3 all-time leader in finals losses!


Without refs he's already the guy for that.

Who is #2 by the way?

I assume Elgin is #1.

Gotta be another Laker

Jerry West

Elgin and West lost NINE times btw
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:04:56 PM
#480
UltimaterializerX posted...
Told you the Cavs had this.

They're winning the title, too.

Bruh did you see how terribly they played tonight?
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 11:00:34 PM
#468
Jakyl25 posted...
I didnt watch all season. Is this Cavs team really worse than the 07 team?

Arguably
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 10:59:39 PM
#467
Lmfao Boston

Excited for LeBron to inch up to the #3 all-time leader in finals losses!
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 10:55:40 PM
#457
transience posted...
this is about the worst game I've seen -- I feel like I've been transported to 1995

Yeah but the scores in 95 were low because of elite defense. Today's score is low due to anemic offense.
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TopicNBA Playoffs-Throne Watch 2018
Nelson_Mandela
05/27/18 10:54:30 PM
#454
Lol this is over

What a terrible game and series
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