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Savage.

Anyone that dumps on CliffyB is a-ok with me.
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What a moron. Hope he's ready for a visit from the FBI, because that's a good way to get one.
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I thought Erickson was supposed to be a devout Christian? Not very Christianly of him.
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Delirious_Beard posted...

why do reviewers just eat up this "cinematic" wannabe naughty dog trash

Have you ever seen some of these "gaming journalists" actually play a game? It's painful to watch. Not really a surprise they value pretty visuals and cool cutscenes over mechanical depth.
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Wasn't he the one that flipped out on his co-stars for not doing enough to support Hillary?
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Imagine writing a letter to the police because someone hurt your feelings.
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Antifar posted...

McCain will be on his deathbed calling for more war in the Middle East.

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Warrior_Man posted...

Joke country doesn't believe in the natural right of self defense.

I don't think citizens in the UK actually have any rights; just privileges the government currently allows them.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-arresting-nine-people-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/teen-accomplice-sentenced-65-years/492001002/

That article also glosses over the fact that the teens fired shots at the officers. The accomplice charge in this case is because they were armed, shot at officers while committing a felony, which resulted in the death of a teen.
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The Admiral posted...

I dont really feel bad for this scumbag and his friends going on a burglary spree, but I dont like the application of the law at all here. And 65 years seems ridiculous.

They offered a 25 year plea deal, but he turned it down.
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Terrible decision. You need to rectify that.
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No reasonable person needs an assault rifle, a handgun, a knife, their free speech.
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So is there any definite information? From that article, it's just a person accusing her of being involved.
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Good for the kid protecting himself. It's really unfortunate that he had to experience that trauma at 13 years old, but at least he's alive and a bad guy is dead.
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Trump derangement syndrome claims another victim.
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@CableZL posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

You don't think the people who drafted the 2nd amendment realized that technology would progress?

I think it's possible that they realized technology would progress. Still, as it stands today, we have "the right to bear arms," but that certainly doesn't apply to every kind of gun in existence. So I think it's fair to say that the 2nd amendment should be updated to specify which kind of guns we're allowed to have instead of leaving it up to interpretation of the words of hypocrites from hundreds of years ago.

I think the important thing is to look at the intent behind the 2nd amendment. It's not there to give a person the right to hunt or shoot at targets; it's there so the people have a fighting chance against an oppressive government. It was written because they had just witnessed it happening to their citizens. The British soldiers were seizing arms from the Colonists in 1774 and 1775. A major provocation for the war was the illegal searching of people's homes and seizing of their weapons.

I think there's a strong argument to be made that citizens should be able to own arms that are comparable to what a military has, based solely on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Can you give a good reason why people would not need similar arms as to those who could oppress them?
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weekoldhotdog posted...

Nobody is afraid of your civil war. The first time you or your friends get shot, you'll hand over your guns like the good little boys that you are.

You talk big, until you guns run out of rounds or you see that you are outgunned and outmatched.

Outgunned with what? If a Civil War starts over guns, it'll be people who want guns vs. people who don't. Now call me crazy, but my money is on the side that has the guns.
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EverDownward posted...

How the residents react could set a precedent for the future.

My guess is they're fine with it. Included in the pdf, there are letters of support for the ban from regular citizens, that were used as argument in favor of the ban when it was presented.

Also, if you look up the demographics of Deerfield, it's 95% white, strongly Democrat, and the median household income is slightly above 100k a year. Take from that what you will.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html

(CNN) - The village of Deerfield in northern Illinois has passed a ban on assault weapons, but it affects much more than sales and manufacturing.

If the 18,000 residents of the Chicago suburb don't forfeit or secure weapons that fall under the ban by June 13th, they will be charged from $200 to $1,000 a day as a penalty.

According to the ordinance, which the the Village Board of Trustees unanimously approved Monday night, it is unlawful for a person "to carry, keep, bear, transport or possess an assault weapon in the Village," except if the weapon is "broken down in a non-functioning state," is "not immediately accessible to any person," or is "unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card." Law enforcement officers, current and retired, are exempted.

The ordinance makes specific reference to recent mass shootings in Parkland, Florida; Las Vegas; and Sutherland Springs, Texas. "Assault weapons have been increasingly used in an alarming number of notorious mass shooting incidents at public places, public venues, places of worship and places of public accommodation," the ordinance reads.

The authors of the legislation claim the law "may increase the public's sense of safety...not withstanding potential objections regarding the availability of alternative weaponry or the enforceability of such a ban."

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Deerfield's ordinance sets its own extensive definition of the term. In short, its version of an assault weapon is "a semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a large capacity magazine, detachable or otherwise." There are other aspects, including rifle additions and types of magazines.

As defined by the village, the term also includes semiautomatic pistols (Stuck's note - these are the military looking, short barrel guns that closely resemble AR's, but are technically considered pistols. This is not referring to your standard pistol like a Glock or whatever), semiautomatic shotguns, conversion kits and "any shotgun with a revolving cylinder."

There's more written in the story in the link above.

City ordinance starts on page 79 - https://www.deerfield.il.us/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_04022018-412

"Firearm Owners Identification" is Illinois' term for a concealed weapon permit, so anyone that doesn't own one and isn't a law enforcement officer, can be fined anywhere from $250 to $1000 a day just for owning an assault rifle. Also, any magazine (not just a rifle magazine) that can hold more than 10 rounds, are subject to this fine.

Also something of interest: I see no mention of compensation in the ordiance for people that are required to surrender their arms. I know under eminent domain, the government is required to provide compensation, but these guns won't be used, rather they will be destroyed. Therefore, people will be out guns, magazines, and money under this new ordiance.

Thoughts?
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DifferentialEquation posted...

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AssultTank posted...

No, assault rifle is a select fire weapon, usually capable of burst fire, but also capable of automatic fire. It has an actual definition, which the TC did not use correctly in his shitty attempt at classifying a small game hunting rifle as an assault rifle.

Wrong.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/31/merriam-webster-online-dictionary-changes-definition-assault-rifle/

Go ahead, argue with the dictionary.

He said "sporting rifle" is useless as a term, and I said that so is "assault rifle" when a bolt action gun with a detachable mag, telescoping stock and a pistol grip can qualify as one. Stop trying to gunsplain. I know more than you.

Lol except the definition Merriam-Webster use specifically requires semi-auto which bolt-actions by definition are incapable of. So does the Assault Rifle ban.

For someone on such a tall soapbox, that is a pretty stupid thing to say.

Too bad the assault WEAPONS ban does NOT exclude bolt-action rifles, defining ALL semi-automatic weapons OR ANY weapons CAPABLE of accepting a ten-round magazine.

Mosin Nagant bolt-action rifles and WW2-era Garands fit this description. The Mosin Nagant is also explicitly named in the assault weapons ban.

But they just want "sensible" gun control!

Sensible gun control for 300-400 murders a year out of a 300+ million population (and that's for all rifles, not just the scary looking ones), while handguns are anywhere from 6k-8k a year. I wish their sensible arguments were at least partially based on facts.
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They're not wrong. Breitbart under Bannon was a weapon, plain and simple.
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

People who say the Confederacy was fighting nobly for state rights needs to read up on the sixth article of the constitution. And then read up on the specific state rights that were being infringed.

Spoiler alert: it was slavery...

Also, Alexander Stephens (the Confederate Vice President) "Cornerstone" speech. Took place a few weeks before the start of the war, and pretty much lays out how he felt about black people and their reasons for the war.
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Violence between who? Citizens armed with guns vs citizens with bullhorns? I wouldn't worry too much about it. Plus, I don't think antifa shows up to places where they can't intimidate people.
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I want to hear people's stances on issues. If there's a person that has an ideology more in line with mine, then I'd vote for them. The whole "politics is a team sport" malarkey, is a blight on our country.
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I_am_SniperFrog posted...

I mean I'd spend 60 dollars on a remastered Chaos Theory.

CT is the epitome of the SC series.

-10 or so single player levels. All of which are really good. Some of which are seriously the best in the franchise. The Panama Bank level is by and far the absolute best stealth level in a game. Period.

-4 unique Co-op maps that are lengthy. Levels take upwards of an hour to complete. 2 free co-op levels were later added for free.

-A versus mode with fun and unique mechanics plus a bunch of levels. Spies were a tad OP, but it was still a blast.

Add on top of that the witty quips and dialogue, and the fantastic sound track, and it's easily one of the GOAT games and was worth every penny when it came out.
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gmo7897 posted...

A) its not stressful. B) we dont have a quota. Were allowed to do as much as we want. While were expected to do something, the levels of activity vary from mod to mod. We do what we can.

@gmo7897 What's the minimum expected for mods?
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That's airsoft. He's shooting little plastic bbs at around 400 fps. The travel fast enough that you can feel them, but they don't puncture the skin nor do they leave messes on clothing. The hit markers are done through video editing software.
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Genocet_10-325 posted...

So as soon as I finish the cigarette I immediately take out and light another one despite the fact I hate chain smoking. I then do it one more time when I finished the second cigarette.

lmao

I mean, I hate the smell of cigarettes, but if someone is smoking, I'm not going to walk over to them and then complain that I can smell said cigarettes. Some people are just dumb.
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tremain07 posted...

This is just a sad accident, they shouldn't be throwing anyone in jail over this

Don't know if I agree with this. I'm a staunch supporter of people owning firearms, but leaving a firearm that is easily accessible to a child, is putting the welfare of that child in danger. Absolutely unacceptable. If you have small kids, you're gun should not be accessible to them. Period.
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dreamvoid posted...

whether the white nationalist had a First Amendment right to unleash a "troll storm" of anti-Semitic messages and threats against the woman's family.

Messages? Absolutely. Threats? No.
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ChainedRedone posted...

What universe do you get these FBI statistics from? NRA website?

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/

(Add both links together, need to bypass 150 character limit for links)

expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls

Blunt weapons trail guns and it's not even close. It doesn't even make sense to make this up. How often do you hear of a shooting versus a hammer murder. Like, do you just skip 100 shooting homicide articles and find one news article involving a hammer and conclude hammers are more common? Again I ask you, how do you come up with this shit?

And also, "personal weapons" like fists, as you termed them also trail guns by miles.

He said "assault weapons", which is true. And that's all rifles, not just the scary black ones.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

The whole wanting to ban assault rifles is such a disingenuous argument when you actually look at the number of people killed by them.
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What kind of medication was the Parkland shooter on? Aren't nearly all recentish mass shooters on some type of mind-altering medications? Probably one of the really big differences between the 60's and today. Not saying that is the cause, but definitely a part of the problem.
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6. Eat him first
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Not really surprising. Nobody likes Hillary, and trying to tie a candidate to her is probably a valid strategy for certain demographics.
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I'd rather not.
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You'll make a fine rug, cat!
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XplodnPnguins92 posted...

isn't this the kid who called innocent people, "child murderers"?

Pretty sure he called the NRA child murderers.

I'm curious why she thought it was a good idea to laugh at him for not getting accepted to a college? I can understand attacking something he says or his ideas, as ultimately he's the one putting himself out there. But to attack him over something so trivial...It's so petty and unprofessional.

Also, I hope these hese pundits realize that they helping to legitimize him when they continually talk about him. Kind of weird that they say they don't want to take him serious, but then continue to mention him and explain why he's wrong.
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I recall them busting up some pretty big child trafficking rings last year. Maybe that's what she's referring to?
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A government employee that has no problem spending other people's money?

I am shocked. Absolutely shocked.
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Think you're crap outta luck.
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The dlc purchased by one account, can be used by all accounts on that ps4. Not sure about transferring a save.
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50Blessings posted...

Has he actually gone one on one with anyone that wasn't on CNN?

Last I recalled he kept refusing to go on these shows and the usual suspects praised him for it, but that was like 3 weeks ago when Alex Jones wanted him to come on so maybe he ended up going on those shows?

He's 17. He's not going to debate any ideas. The only stuff he does is with people who he already agrees with and can prop up his opinion.

I don't think people actually want discourse at this point, on either side. They just want to line up and shout at the other side to feel morally justified through their beliefs. People have already made up their minds, and there's really no changing it.
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creativerealms posted...

The idea is if they take down the kid who is the center of this movement that the whole movement will fall. It is flawed logic at it's core.

Nah. I think the idea is to defend yourself from a Twitter campaign that's going after your advertisers. Dude's acting like a douche tbqh, and he's already using the left's favorite tactic: shut down any opposing views, in anyway possible. If you want to express your thoughts and ideas, then fine, but telling others what to think and then going after people's livelihoods when they don't fall in line, is disgusting.
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Chicken posted...

Americans that defend owning semi autos literally sound like addicts.

Oh I dont need to smoke crack...

Are you aware that semi autos make up like 99% of the guns that people own nowadays?
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You can make that argument for literally anything. Why do you need *insert whatever item here*? From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs, right?
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I feel like a lot of people that want the ar15 banned are like this old guy in this video.



Espousing tons of wrong information, completely misinformed, and utterly disinterested in facts or truth.
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Tmaster148 posted...

And to think all this could have been avoided if they did something the several other times last year this came up and gun nuts bitched.

It could have all been avoided if local law enforcement, the FBI, and the on hand armed guard did their fucking jobs instead of dropping the ball.

Exactly. The police responded to 30 some odd calls involving the shooter. The FBI received serious and credible tips that he was likely going to do what he did. And then nothing. No in depth investigations, no mental evaluations, nothing. When someone shows violent behavior and says that they're going to kill others, what exactly is it going to take for authorities to believe them?
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