Lurker > foolm0r0n

Omniscientless posted...

seeing AB destroyed for a few seconds as Max and Chloe drive away after we basically killed everyone we met throughout the game should generate a much stronger emotional response, but the characters don't really express it

They expressed just as much as you did
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So should I play Bioshock before Berseria?
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SmartMuffin posted...

I mean, the Wakanda stuff is particularly hilarious in that it's a nice inversion of the classic leftist claim of "We know free markets don't work because they have failed in so many fictional stories!" Now it's all "We know Africa would be rich and prosperous if not for evil white people because it happened that way in Black Panther!"

I was thinking about this notion of hypocrisy a lot after that article and the top rated comment saying blacks are hypocritical.

This is just a symptom of your descent into intellectual collectivism. Its broader than identity politics but similar.

There are no individual thoughts, only individuals following a narrative script which their group defines. So when people A, B, C say X, and people D, E, F say notX, you see clear hypocrisy because you put A-F are all in the same group. There is no other way for you to see this situation because you have been convinced that all thought, political at least, comes from a groupthink.

I'm not sure why people do this. My main theory is it gives them an excuse not to think, and be satisfied just parroting whatever they hear that makes them feel good. But so many people spend so much mental effort and anguish enforcing their ideas of this groupthink, it seems so difficult. I think the better reason is it allows them to normalize and justify extreme contradictions and real hypocrisy, like Trump or Obama or red pill or whatever. It allows them to actually participate in this horrible political society. If it's impossible to have original thought, might as well pick a group and go with it.

Other symptoms of this collectivism are the idea that media is ruining society and that electing someone can make society great again, etc

The problem is that to maintain this, true individual hypocrisy ends up actually being WORSHIPPED while original thought is DEMONIZED as an attack on your ideology.

That's why it's now considered critical thinking to post racist image macros on reddit, and trolling to write long posts like this.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/boycott-the-gop/550907/

Is this the most establishment post ever written?
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Not sure how right-wing it is considering it exalts monarchy and polygamy (though I suppose those are highly Trumpy values). But I wouldn't count caving into race-obsessed society as "uncompromising".

I guess it's just a rhetorical change though, since these sites have always been fundamentally about race and white supremacy. It's just in the overton window to talk about race directly now instead of through euphemisms.
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What is this post then? Were they just ahead of the time in being race-obsessed and bringing politics into everything?
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Man that site really hates black people. I guess this article is the kind of "bringing politics into entertainment" that anti-SJWs hate.
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BowserCuffs posted...

That's strange considering Tales games usually support empathy where Ayn Rand is directly responsible for the wave of people who treat sociopathy as a philosophy to pursue.

People who enjoy Tales games are for sure sociopaths or otherwise numb to the extreme emotional trauma that is the writing in those games
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Kinglicious posted...

It's not a well defined generation because the speed of progress that we tend to define generations with is too fast.

Pretty sure it still takes 25 years to age 25 years
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The actual most common definition of millennial is anyone younger than you who you want to hate on. It's the "SJW" of generations.
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Try games that have very unique and simple control schemes that don't require years of prior knowledge with analog sticks and WASD and 12 face buttons and such to play. Puzzle games like The Witness or adventure games work. Basically any mobile touch game. Simple platformers like Super Meat Boy also.

It's really the control schemes that non-gamers have trouble with. Actual in-game difficulty and complexity isn't as big of a deal.
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https://kotaku.com/facebook-pulls-vr-shooter-demo-from-cpac-after-backlash-1823298308

Looks like Trump's anti video game policy will be one of his most influential acts. Maga.
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Also "do you remember before youtube existed"
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In-between generations don't get good names. The next one will have something.
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~* Adieu ~*
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Max = desire to help everyone
Chloe = desire to change her past
Max + Chloe = Spiral of changing past to help and messing up and changing again = Storm

Bay ending = Max who is okay with Chloe dying = no Storm
Bae ending = Max who only cares about Chloe + Chloe who doesn't want to change the past anymore = no Storm
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One study on B8 showed 97 out of 100 people don't believe in closed borders nationalism, therefore nationalism exists just as much as the XYY 3rd gender SJW myth

(for vlado who won't get it unless I spell it out: only 3% of people in this poll voted for closed borders, just like the 3% of XYY people that you dismiss for being too rare to acknowledge)
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He literally focus tested his policy options on live TV

Yes this does imply that he thinks he can get rid of the 2nd amendment if he wanted to
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Uhhhh thanks for providing an example of a completely wrong interpretation
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Salt clogs your pasta with flavor
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Seems pretty chilly to me
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Also the storm is a metaphor, which so many people seem to miss for some reason
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The ending is really good, because it actually judges you for your choice. Both choices are valid, but one is obviously evil and selfish.

That's really cool, because the whole contradiction of the game and the time reversing and choice-based games like this in general is that you can get everything you want and make everyone happy. Basically, if there's a choice you like and a choice you don't, then it's not actually a choice. You need to be angry and disappointed with your choice for it to actually have any weight.

This concept is expressed a lot throughout the game (allowing Kate to die is the strongest example, but only if it happens) but the final choice makes it super explicit that that is the core message of the game. It sounds kinda cheating to say that you are not supposed to like the ending, but I think this game does more than enough effort to make the message meaningful and deserved.

That being said, the Save Arcadia Bay ending is the "good" one and like all the choices in the game, you need to see it to get a complete understanding of the game.
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SmartMuffin posted...

Am I allowed to dress like a Mexican on halloween so long as I can find at least one Hispanic dude who says its cool?

If a mexican friend says you can dress up as him then sure
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Xiahou Shake posted...

If it's actually seamlessly connected, then this seems like a neat way to expand on the game, but if all of these "episodes" are really clearly just additional stuff that was piled on after the fact, it seems like it would make playing through the story a bit janky.

The game is a completely disjointed patchwork of demos that the team was able to complete before release. It's like walking through a museum for FFXV. In that sense the episodes fit in perfectly.
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FinalistCloud posted...

So 15 years till complete game....

These episodes will not complete the game. It will probably never be complete and if it is it won't be until 2025 or something.
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No Episode Iris, no buy

I would also settle for Episode Chocobo

Or maybe Episode Cup Noodles
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That being said there is a Tokyo Express near the moscone and it's amazing. Like $9 for a bunch of awesome Japanese food.
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Oh I know. I had an old fashioned around there for $18 and that's a reasonable price comparably.
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Also does the Overton window have any real relevance at all unless you obsess over the media?
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I think that's just SF being obsessed with touch screens

Seattle and Oakland have the min wage and it just ends up with restaurants shutting down
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Also I hate going to the gas station so I always procrastinate until it's super low, but it never ran out on me
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In my car yes, but my friend was driving
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Depends on definition
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Salt and fat will kill you. Eat more bread and corn. Obey.
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KujikawaRising posted...

People like you, you mean? Skyward Snore is just a slog to play through. Its few good parts (Lanaryu Mining Facilities, Ancient Cistern, the entire Sandship quest) are weighed down by its unnecessary filler, obnoxious amount of fetch-quest garbage, and constant use of the Beetle as a scouting plug. Every time I started enjoying myself in that game, it was like "No! Can't have that."

You just described every Zelda, especially TP and BOTW. The only thing SS does especially different is that it uses the same locations multiple times for different quests (as if it's actually a world).

Most people actually hate Zelda as a whole because of this, the only reason they nominally like it is because of nostalgia for OoT or something. That's why BOTW is so popular for removing all Zelda elements from the game.
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trans and queer is actually redundant
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Anyone can be jewish if the redpills want them to be
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Celeste, previously Hat in Time, previously Nier Automata
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

doesn't have any truly awful parts except

for literally everything you didn't list

And I'm not sure if you've played it recently but it sure is a lot of stuff
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https://gizmodo.com/google-fired-and-disciplined-employees-for-speaking-out-1822277125

Man it's gonna be crazy seeing all the red pills bashing Google for censoring the free speech pro-diversity liberals. Muffin can you post a few good ones from the people you follow when they come out? Just the top 5 or so cuz there's no way I could read all of their reactions, especially since this is about multiple people and not just one.
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Salt isn't a spice lmao

Whitest topic I've ever seen
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ALBW objectively but MM is 2nd best and my fav
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BowserCuffs posted...

Honestly, I want a story arc where the Z-Fighters are off doing something else and Chi Chi and Videl get a chance to remind everyone that they're still far better fighters than most humans are.

Steven Universe did this and it was awesome
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Albion?
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SeabassDebeste posted...

dumb question but how many outcomes are there to the frank conversation

(i've had frank shot and had him stabbed in the knee (chloe overpowered him? really???))

Tons

It's such an epic sequence, can't believe they pulled it off, while also brilliantly incorporating time travel shenanigans. Totally destroys any other adventure game or visual novel choice sequence.
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Awesome character, one of my favs (only saw her during Saiyaman saga really). Great way to give the audience someone to relate to, as a totally normal human who could actually tap into this internal energy, instead of being from some godlike bloodline like everyone else. Haircut and design is great. Romance with Gohan is great. Definitely want her in DBFZ.
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MGS3 as in MGSSS would've been sweet
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I would literally have done it yesterday
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