Lurker > Mr Lasastryke

i wouldn't even say social media "changed how humans interact," it's just... added a different way humans interact. pretty sure that when you go to a pub now, the people there don't talk differently than the way they did 20 years ago.
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Metal_DK posted...

I post more sources for my claims than anyone who posts in these things....

you also make more controversial claims, though.

i just say stuff like "trump sucks." don't need to post a source for that >_>
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Metal_DK posted...

When studies state entire generations biggest fear is dying alone....well people still seem to want long term romantic and sexual companionship and must be considered to keeping citizens of a country happy...

you can have long term romantic and sexual companionship without either marriage or kids.
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if fox is no different from the other globalist media why is trump (the messiah who is supposed to save us from the evils of globalism) constantly sucking them off on twitter?
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haven't marriage rates been plummeting since way before the casual revolution, though? i feel like the "marriage and kids is the ideal" idea is super archaic (the kind of thing the alt right is nostalgic for).

birth rates plummeting is probably a good thing when you look at the overpopulation problem, btw.
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Metal_DK posted...

Its also made people not commit in the long term, and while its easier to "meet new people" because of it, its also caused everyone to drop each other quickly since they can just go back to tinder or some other crap and try again.

Nobody thinks long term in the social media era.

this isn't my experience at all. a lot of my friends are extremely concerned with settling down, getting married and having kids. most of my friends are in their mid-to-late 20s.

sure, there's people who just want to quickly hook up and drop people as well, but to claim that when it comes to our generation "everyone drops each other quickly" is silly.
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I'm not fucking assuming anything, I am going off her literal account of the interaction FFS.

you're assuming she didn't actually feel assaulted and "just regretted a sexual encounter."
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ExThaNemesis posted...

That would be all well and good if we were actually talking about a victim of sexual assault instead of Woman Who Regretted A Sexual Interaction.

once again you're assuming the worst about her.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

If she didn't forgive him or didn't believe he was genuine, then don't let the issue drop for years until you feel like messing with his career.

you're assuming the worst of her, like inviso said.

you realize that it often takes years for sexual assault victims to speak out for a wide variety of reasons (shame, suppression of trauma), right? the fact that you think the only reason can be spite is pretty shitty and completely lacking in empathy.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Nah, it's definitely spite, and sadistic spite at that considering the matter had already been handled and Ansari had apologized to her.

she can't attack him because he apologized?
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yeah, i do think some runners just don't care (much) about considering when the good spots for donation readings are. that's bad too.
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yeah, there's no reason for preparation when the runner almost always specifies during the run when it's a good time to read donations. the only problem is that donation readers still read off donations WITHOUT asking for the runner's permission plenty of times. as i said before, that's stupid because you never know if the runner has to concentrate on a difficult trick or whatever. i don't think this AGDQ there was anything as disastrous as when during SGDQ '16 a reader ruined a blindfolded section of a run by rattling off a donation, but it's something that shouldn't happen regardless.
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but more importantly, most people on the board being wrong about this doesn't mean anything.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
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well, you didn't include the correct option in the poll (which would be "sometimes").
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Guy on HLN just said that Trump has heart disease?

how is that possible when god made him so perfect
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the funny thing is that all the "#METOO HAS GONE TOO FAR" people you hear now were never in favor of the movement in the first place. since it became popular they've been loudly complaining how "THE HASHTAG IS TOO BROAD" or "FLIRTING ISN'T SEXUAL HARASSMENT" (as if shit like that is more important than the cultural revolution of tons of people finally speaking out against sexual assault). they don't ACTUALLY think "#metoo used to be great but NOW it's gone too far!" it's all just rhetoric.
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my actual view on this matter is "we need to look at this on a case-by-case basis," not "NO MID-30S PERSON WHO'S ATTRACTED TO A 13-YEAR-OLD IS A PEDO" as you're implying with your topic.
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ok
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worth noting that kramer has denied dushku's accusations, btw.

but hey, he's not a republican from alabama so we should 100% believe the accusations by default, right?
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i dunno, he phrased the question kind of vaguely. i thought he was asking why all girls on tinder say they don't want to fuck on the first date.
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"it's just the way god made him" lol
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I_Like_Beards posted...

Best of luck finding something, hope it brings you joy!

thank you! i'm pretty confident i'll find something eventually.
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SmartMuffin posted...

So why on Earth would I assume it to be true?

not saying you should assume it to be true, just saying you should list it as a possible reason. pretty sure "she actually doesn't want to fuck on the first date" is a more common reason than "she uses it as a rather faulty strategy to get less dick pics sent to her."
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my only goal was "get a job."

i have not succeeded thus far.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I'm having flashbacks to The Great B8 Lolicon Debate right now

where is shake when we need him?
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HashtagSEP posted...

I can't imagine Vlado himself called Moore a pedophile, though, so I'm curious where this technicality even came up.

vlado was calling joel kramer a pedophile. roy moore came up later.
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SmartMuffin posted...

I would consider it a form of a shit test. A simple way to weed out the weak beta-males who aren't confident enough to aggressively pursue. Perhaps also a way to slightly decrease the amount of instant dick-pics as well (although that implies dick-pic senders read and care about what people say in profiles, which is almost certainly not true, but maybe women believe it is true?)

you don't include "she's telling the truth and she doesn't want to fuck on the first date" at all on your list of possible explanations?
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HashtagSEP posted...

I'd say there's a difference between arguing over stupid shit in general, which we all do, and arguing over something that damn near makes it look like you're trying to defend somebody or say they're somehow less creepy because they're "not technically a pedophile." Like, that may not be your intention, but it certainly looks that way when you do it.

who am i supposed to be defending?

in the topic vlado's referring to, vlado is defending roy moore until he's blue in the face, so you could make a more convincing argument about him defending pedophilia/hebephilia/ephebophilia/whatever. i'm not defending anyone, i'm just making a theoretical argument about technicalities.
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HashtagSEP posted...

If somebody feels the need to get hung up on the distinction and argue until they're blue in the face that "You can't call so-and-so a pedophile because the kid's 11," that's a really stupid hill to die on.

you're one to accuse people of arguing until they're blue in the face about stupid shit.
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Vlado posted...

But if another guy got attracted to her the day she turns 13, he's not a pedo? lmfao

entirely depends. what does the girl who just turned 13 look like? does she look 16? 10? what does the guy find sexually attractive about her?

you're trying to get set in stone laws out of this stuff but that's impossible. we have to approach this on a case-by-case basis.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

lasa why do you care about the semantics of adults who are attracted to 13 year-olds

because i care.
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Vlado posted...

Pedos are people attracted to children. Just because a child turns 13 or whatever arbitrary age you set does not suddenly make a person attracted to that child not a pedo.

if an adult is attracted to a child and the child turns 13 and the adult is still attracted to them, the adult is still a pedo, sure. it's possible to be sexually attracted to multiple types of people. some people are sexually attracted to children, adolescents AND adults.

if an adult is exclusively sexually attracted to adolescents they're not a pedo, though. because pedophilia is sexual attraction to children.
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Vlado posted...

It's not "difficult to grasp." "Ephoebephiles" are a subset of pedos.

apparently it is because you're still not getting it.

pedophilia = sexual attraction to children
ephebophilia = sexual attraction to mid-to-late adolescents

so again, ephebophilia is not a "subset" of anything. pedophilia = golden retrievers, ephebophilia = bulldogs.

seriously, this is so simple. how the fuck are not getting it? i can't imagine someone graduating from college and having this much trouble with a concept that's as simple as 1+1=2.

also, lol at you misspelling ephebophilia and putting it in quotation marks, as if it's just some stupid thing i made up. you get that it's an existing word that you can look up in the dictionary, right?
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did roy moore deny that he dated a 14 year old girl when he was an adult?
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and yeah, pedophilia does end at 13. i didn't put much thought into the "15-19" thing, just said it to explain the incredibly simple concept of there indeed being a difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia (apparently it's still too difficult for vlado to grasp, though).
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Vlado posted...

lel, so you're only incredibly strict and specific when it comes to condemning the pedos. If it's about defending them, you're all lax.

what the fuck are you even talking about? i'm always the same amount of strict or specific or lax. to use the inversed version of my previous example, if an adult guy is attracted to a 16 year old girl who looks 12, he could very well be a pedophile.
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obviously "ages 15-19" is a rough approximation. if an adult guy is attracted to a girl who is 14 but looks 16 he'd probably qualify as an ephebophile, even if he's technically a pedophile.
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well yeah, if you're attracted to 12 year olds you are a pedo. ephebophilia is attraction to people aged 15-19.

still doesn't mean you should use the word "pedophile" when you're talking about ephebophiles, though.
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uh, that's totally different. it's more like saying "a golden retriever" instead of "a bulldog."
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using incorrect terms is always wrong, yes. not sure why this isn't the case when condemning sexual and child molesters.
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that article sucks. "at last, she uttered the word 'no' for the first time during their encounter" is blatantly false, as grace already said she didn't want to have sex with him on the first date. don't care that the writer sides with aziz, but i don't give a shit about an article that doesn't even get important parts of the story right.

i love how the usual suspects in the politics topic were going nuts about the "leftist feminist NYT" publishing this article as if it's a huge win for them, though. reminds me of the alt right constantly going "OMG MILO IS GAY THE LEFT JUST CAN'T HANDLE THIS."
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i love how sephy has all these argument ending laws in his head.

"if thomas jefferson said it, it's automatically true!"

"if an opinion is mainstream, it can't possibly be disgusting!"

intellectual laziness at its most blatant.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

That thev sentiment I and others have been expressing is mainstream enough to certainly not warrant such salty buttanger

spoilers: mainstream opinions can be disgusting too. i hope i don't have to godwin this topic.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Rock said this to me for saying the same thing as a feminist nyt columnist about the wine. Guess she needs to shut the fuck up too! Damn us and our superior deductive abilities!

what the hell are you even arguing? that a feminist NYT columnist is infallible?
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pxlated posted...

To be fair he probably doesn't view it as assault.

well obviously, but...
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great movie.
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SmartMuffin posted...

All men are always 100x more powerful than all women.

But also gender is a social construct and men and women are completely equal with zero biological differences.

uh, you get that these two things aren't logically inconsistent, right?

trump is more powerful than you. does that mean he's biologically different from you?
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Surskit posted...

It's Sephy so yeah, maybe he's making his points in a way that comes off as belligerent, but the gist of his posts is that refusal is a very common part of a woman's repertoire when flirting, and the expectation is the man has to win her over and overcome the refusal. Y'all speak as if it was all black and white; as if women didn't enjoy playing their own mind games or as if asserting yourself wasn't a valid method when it comes to pursuing a woman. It's unrealistic to explicitly ask for consent every step of the way or re-confirm it multiple times. Ultimately it's about timing based on your (very human and prone to be erroneous) reads on the other person's behavior. Evidently some men don't even wait to get the right signals from women, and yes, that's assault. But if the woman has given you plenty of clues she is interested but is still holding back for reasons you are unable to understand, it's only natural for you to try to overcome them. Giving up at the first sign of an obstacle is unattractive. And if it doesn't work, the woman can be firm -- say, by maybe refusing to blow the guy, lol. Women can make reads on men, too; why "chill on the couch" if the dude's intent is obviously sexual? I like to think women aren't total fools.

i don't disagree with this but can we at least agree that he was acting like an asshole to someone who just revealed she has been sexually assaulted? "it's sephy so yeah" isn't an excuse.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

I thought about trying to watch every AGDQ video as well but I'm worried that I'll run out of steam halfway through like I did last time I tried to do this

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sephy said "AWW POOR BABY" to a woman who said she has been sexually assaulted in this topic. yeah, he's been totally on point.
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