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Saying stuff like that about anybody, whether it's another member or a public figure, has always been a moddable offense. This is nothing new.
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Jason's trap requires him to NOT kill somebody and he fails in two seconds
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Lopen posted...

It feels more like theorycraft than like, how real life works.

Like, it all reads well on paper, but weighed against "this guy is about to be elected for public office and it's sabotage time" and which one is more likely the driving force, considering the guy has been a public figure for quite some time, and we've had plenty of Me Too moments in the past.

It's an argument you can make and it sounds good enough to convince people who are already on your side, but for people who suspect ulterior motives? It's just not very strong. It's not really how traumatic experiences work in my experience either, just a nice theorycraft way for them to make sense to work.

I mean, a vast majority of people who suspect ulterior motives aren't going to change their minds on any of it, so the only thing making arguments like this is going to do is be yet another caveat. Like, instead of saying "if it's true," it's "It may be true, buuuut..."
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Nah, they're just going to zoom in on that point even more

If the argument is "It's fake because they only did it to hurt his campaign," and then you go "Yeah, they did do it to hurt his campaign," then they're going to go "See? I was right, it's fake."

It'd be different if people were actually acknowledging a separation, there. But they're not. They're stuck on "If A, then B."
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Samurai7 posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Lopen posted...

I'm not complaining. I think it's good these things come out. I'm just saying when people are skeptical about the timing of things being revealed being above the level, they're probably right more often than not. I'm sure there's a lot of selective greasing when it comes to stuff like this.

But that's an entirely pointless argument to make, because they're not skeptical of "There's probably a motivation for this," they're trying to say "The timing is too convenient, it's fake." They're using it to fuel the "Fake news" agenda.

Right. And Lopen is saying that trying to explain to them why it isn't convenient is probably less effective than explaining to them whether it's convenient or not doesn't affect whether it is true or not.

Right.

But "They're more often right than not that it's convenient" isn't going to do that. >_>'

The point is to say it has no impact. So giving weight to their argument with "You're probably right" is just going to make them believe what they believe even more
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Lopen posted...

I'm not complaining. I think it's good these things come out. I'm just saying when people are skeptical about the timing of things being revealed being above the level, they're probably right more often than not. I'm sure there's a lot of selective greasing when it comes to stuff like this.

But that's an entirely pointless argument to make, because they're not skeptical of "There's probably a motivation for this," they're trying to say "The timing is too convenient, it's fake." They're using it to fuel the "Fake news" agenda.
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PrinceKaro posted...

and a few posts above Brohan literally responds to one of slycooper's posts within a minute of its post time

Yeah this part was super transparent
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Nevermind, I'm dumb and misunderstood
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Lopen posted...

Cybat posted...

Guys.

Toe.

Toe the party line.

Sorry, carry on.

Wait, really?

What the hell. Tow the line makes more sense imo. Footraces I mean really.

It's referring to literally falling in line/abiding by the rules of starting a race, which is the point. You're conforming completely.
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To be fair, the dates are off

Users will be able to add Wii Points until March 26, 2018, and purchase content on the Wii Shop Channel until January 30, 2019. In the future we will be closing all services related to the Wii Shop Channel, including the ability to redownload WiiWare and Virtual Console games, as well as the Wii System Transfer Tool, which transfers data from Wii to the Wii U system. We will announce specific details as that time approaches.

They haven't announced details or a date for when the service itself goes down completely.
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RaidenZeroX posted...

I went back and rewatched the clip of the incident, and there was one thing that I thought was really odd.

The apparent script said that Owens and Zayn were supposed to go back into the ring and get laid out by the New Day. Big E and Xavier were up, and only Kofi was down, so the cowardly heels would be going back to attack 2 fresh people (so even numbers,) and 1 of them had just been in a match and clearly wasn't fresh. I don't recall many instances of the cowardly heel returning to the ring without a numbers advantage, so that script seems nonsensical and sloppy, unless there's something I'm missing.

They weren't supposed to leave the ring after the initial time when Owens came in to attack Kofi. Which makes sense, since Woods/E definitely seemed confused standing in the ring.
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Pretty much

All the "loyalty" and "people you can trust" things mean is "Don't pick Miz who may walk out on you if things don't go his way," or "Don't pick Owens who may betray you just for funsies."

It doesn't mean "Don't take the best available wrestler in the company who happens to be a free agent"
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

They wouldn't because they keep talking about how this is Smackdown vs Raw non-stop and about brand loyalty and Kurt Angle needing people he can trust. So what sense does it make bringing in a guy who has no brand affiliation to be on in a match that's specifically about one brand versus another?

...Because he's a free agent and that's literally how free agents work?

Cena having no loyalty = Cena's going to wherever pays him to

Why would Shane go "No, we don't want him?"

Sure, one could argue that makes it possible for Cena to betray if Raw pays him more, but 1. That's not likely with Cena like it would be with somebody like Owens or Lesnar if they were the "free agent," and 2. You'd still take the chance because... C'mon, it's Cena.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

EmDubyaSee posted...

Cena is in Team Smackdown.

So who the hell is the ref gonna be then?

Wait, what?

Shane loses Cena's exclusivity, Cena wrestles on Raw for the last couple months he was around, and then they take him back like that? What the hell?

...Why wouldn't they?

It'd be like Cleveland going "No, Lebron, we DON'T want you back" after he was with the Heat

Except it's not even like that because Cena technically didn't leave-leave.
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Nanis23 posted...

Do you realize how exciting it would be if they reveal a new Alola form in the Friday news and say something like "the review copies we sent are not the same as the game that will release - we hid a few surprises!"

Yes there is literally 0% chance of this happening

I do wonder though if something like that happened in gaming? sending an incomplete review copies on purpose?

I dunno if that has happened, but NRS purposely put fake files/rename other files in their fighting games so people who try to datamine the game or DLC early get mislead. For instance, in Injustice 2, a lot of the character files are named after other characters. Bane is under a LotR character, and I think Joker is "Shaggy," etc.
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Carly
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Kenri posted...

lordloki12 posted...

Hot Take:

If the government has no problem with people paying their taxes online they should have no problem with them voting online.

Agreed, though taxes are a clusterfuck in their own way so they're not the most ideal model.

HashtagSEP posted...

So youre arguing that a system which takes votes over the phone somehow isnt less secure?

Nah it's probably about the same.

Yeah youre incredibly wrong
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Kenri posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

Kenri posted...

nailed it, i'm definitely one of those people who believes 6 million fake votes were cast in california, you're right

...I... You literally said

Kenri posted...

We have those issues now with voting machines anyway, might as well make it easier for legitimate voters.

Is being stupid your new gimmick

Yeah, we do have "those issues" (electronic systems being hackable) now and yet fraudulent votes are still (despite what some people claim) incredibly rare, so as to basically be nonexistent.

So youre arguing that a system which takes votes over the phone somehow isnt less secure?
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EmDubyaSee posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Man, what a snoozefest. Atleast with Jinder/Lesnar, it was a question of if they'd come up with some screwy way for Jinder to win to protect him. They only put the belt on AJ so he can job to Lesnar.

It'll be an awesome match though.

Obviously Brock wins.

I hope so, but I don't really expect it to be. Brock only does spotfests anymore, and AJ doesn't really have anything that works for it.
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Man, what a snoozefest. Atleast with Jinder/Lesnar, it was a question of if they'd come up with some screwy way for Jinder to win to protect him. They only put the belt on AJ so he can job to Lesnar.
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Yeah that's extremely bad

When you have to take more than a second explaining a pun, it's bad
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I mean, Hulk's in over half of the movie and is definitely a big selling point. I can't imagine a scenario where their intention was "Shh nobody should know he's in the movie!"
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Eh, I don't really think the movie is making it out to be a secret to the viewers. I think the point was to be like it was a "surprise" that the viewers were all in on, and seeing the reactions from Thor (past the initial one) and Loki, and what happened next was the payoff, not... Hulk himself. It felt to me like the movie knew everybody knew it was Hulk, and it was more of a tongue-in-cheek "But Thor doesn't know, shhh" kind of thing.
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I don't see any "and Windex" in your topic title, sir.
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Great movie

Thor's definitely much better as a more light-hearted character. Thor 2 tried to be more dark and serious and was pretty not good for it. The tone in this was just so much better and it really worked.
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Johnbobb posted...

Disney would absolutely ruin everything that comes out of X-Men and FX

What
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JackMan posted...

but I don't think there was an official review embargo, was there? I thought they just didn't send out review copies.

I don't believe so

But there's a bit of a morality breach when you're a major publication taking advantage of broken street date to get around a makeshift embargo
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iiicon posted...

JackMan posted...

Well, using one copy to judge the others, agreed, that's just bad practice

that's normal reviewing practice across the board.

Even when one version is specifically known to be worse because it's on inferior hardware?
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JackMan posted...

I mean, it's not that hard to get an early copy. I got mine on Saturday.

It certainly should be if you're a publication with any integrity.

Going out and buying a Switch copy from a place that broke street date and then reviewing all of the systems based on that certainly is not
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Probably, but it is kinda weird how they got a review copy if none were sent out, and why they'd review it for all systems based on only the Switch version
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Fair, next

She was fired for making the picture her Facebook profile pic. That violated a specific rule, so... Fair.
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I actually liked Heroes and wish it was on Steam.
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Im just never gonna defend stupid criminals.

They read you your rights. The whole was his request ambiguous or not thing doesnt even really come into play because he chose to keep talking. It is not, nor should it be the cops job to go You better stop talking and request a lawyer clearly. I do not for a second believe anybody doesnt think they can just... Stop talking. So if a criminal is an idiot and gets them self caught up in the letter of the law, thats on them.

It should not be law enforcements job to literally tell people to not talk/confess. It seems like people in here want cops to basically sit suspects down and go Now hold on. Before you say anything, repeat after me: I want a lawyer. Okay, good. Now we cant talk to you.
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SSJBKK20Vegito posted...

And polls have been done to show they don't like it.

To be fair, polls are very divided. They usually show a range of 35-40% that don't like it, but also often show atleast two-thirds saying they should still be allowed to do it.
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After spending about 70 orbs trying to get Ayra, I've literally gotten a 3* every single pull

How is that even possible
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Which phone do you have?
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SantaRPidgey posted...

Murphiroth posted...

"I'm not gonna watch the trailer because I don't want to be spoiled"

*reads stuff about trailer*

*proceeds to bitch and moan about spoilers*

Holy shit dude literally no sympathy, this is 100% your own fault.

Its almost as if the trailer is everywhere on the internet and can't be avoided

I mean you still had to choose to click play and/or read topics about the trailer
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Vlado posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Not a Hilary fan

lmao, you were the guy I mostly argued with while supporting Sanders in the primaries.

I don't remember arguing with you, but if I did, you misunderstand

I was never for Hillary

I just didn't like Bernie

Like, I think others can probably support the fact that I wasn't really pro Hillary, I was just anti-Bernie Bro
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Not a Hilary fan, sorry to burst bubbles

This is mostly just stuff we already knew, so presenting it with incredibly fake, stomach-churning anecdotes is a horrible way to do so.
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Before I called Bernie Sanders, I lit a candle in my living room and put on some gospel music. I wanted to center myself for what I knew would be an emotional phone call.

...

Hello, senator. Ive completed my review of the DNC and I did find the cancer, I said. But I will not kill the patient.

...

When I hung up the call to Bernie, I started to cry, not out of guilt, but out of anger. We would go forward. We had to.

Wow I can't take this seriously at all
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I mean, I get that you can get a skewed mean in situations like that, but in something like ACT scores, the chances of that happening are pretty negligible. You're rarely going to see scores like "100, 100, 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10" in academics.

He's not entirely wrong when it comes to this kind of situation. Worded it poorly, sure
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Peace___Frog posted...

Only for certain distributions that are explicitly centered on the mean, such as uniform and normal. Consider the example where there are ten people and one randomly selected person receives ten apples. The average is one apple per person, but there are 90% of people below the mean and 10% above it.

Well, yeah, but the chances of running into something like that in this particular case seems extremely unlikely. >_>
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Peace___Frog posted...

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/925354960656748545

I would imagine that 50% are below average... that's how math works. The real question is what is average now vs before common core. https://t.co/OnwYhzS7iU

Looks to me like someone could use a lesson in math, since he obviously never learned the difference between mean and median.

Don't you still end up with usually (sometimes roughly) 50% on each side of the mean?
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Lopen posted...

I'm not going to justify driving at 3 miles per hour into a dude (both of these sides are in the wrong here) but I will just say that yeah smacking a guy's windows with objects probably does have more potential for harm to the driver than driving into someone at 3mph. Like if you actually break the window the glass is going in and could cause damage. I definitely see a panic reaction as something that could happen there, especially if you're getting hit on pretty much all sides.

That's even ignoring the technicality of harm to your belongings being considered "harm" ethically.

Eh, I'd say the chance of somebody falling in front of the car that you're driving into them is just as likely, if not moreso, than glass breaking and harming the guy. 3mph is slow, yeah, but if somebody's directly in front of your car and they fall, there's a very good chance you won't stop in time.

EDIT: Not to mention the high chance of running over somebody's foot
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WhoopsyDaisy posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

WhoopsyDaisy posted...

Right. But he wasn't communicating any intent to harm their person, but they were.

Somebody continuing to drive their car into you even as you stand in front of it is definitely communicating an intent to harm their person.

No. It would have actually been easier to hurt them then to avoid hurting them. The fact that no one got hurt is proof positive that he was not acting with the intent to hurt anybody.

Failure to stop doing something that can cause harm can also be intent, you know.

He didn't start intending to harm anybody, but the second he kept going despite having people in front of him/trying to stop him qualifies as intent
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SmartMuffin posted...

HashtagSEP posted...

Somebody continuing to drive their car into you even as you stand in front of it is definitely communicating an intent to harm their person.

No, they are communicating their intent to drive in a location that is designated for driving. His intent is not to harm you, because he wouldn't continue to follow you and run you down if you removed yourself from the road.

The second they begin to hit you with the car and keep going forward, it's definitely communicating an intent to harm.

Like, if somebody steps in front of your car and you bump them, there's no intent, no. But then if you keep going even with them in front of you, it becomes intent since you are aware of what you're doing.
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WhoopsyDaisy posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

So having your windows smacked is the go ahead to accelerate into a crowd of people, got ya.

You think they'd stop at hitting his car? You don't think they would've beat the guy up? Someone hitting your car with you in it is threatening your body. Someone driving 3 mph is not.

He was in a situation where his body was in danger and theirs were not. When they started hitting his car, it ceased to be ethically necessary to avoid harming them in about effort to avoid harm to his own body. This is called "self-defense"

So, wait.

Somebody literally hitting your body with their car is not threatening to your body, but you hitting their car with your body is... threatening to THEIR body?
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WhoopsyDaisy posted...

Right. But he wasn't communicating any intent to harm their person, but they were.

Somebody continuing to drive their car into you even as you stand in front of it is definitely communicating an intent to harm their person.
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kevwaffles posted...

No, it makes a ton of sense. They were intentionally allowing for third party peripherals, but it's not going to look at the Gamecube adapter/controller and magically know it's theirs.

This. They allowed for peripherals without thinking to disable the Gamecube adapter.
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