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Man 1000 crystals per stage, you're a lot better at it than I was. If you mess up and lose one treasure that's the 300 bonus down the drain and probably 100 from the chest as well.
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Yeah, especially if they keep the Fox label around as a brand, I don't see why they wouldn't keep making stuff like Deadpool if it makes them money. As Cly pointed out, the Netflix shows are already pretty mature. It's also not like they're gonna cancel shit like Family Guy because it's not "Disney" enough.
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up for wednesday
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I have the book girl healer on Nia and a creepy marionette girl with a HUGE gun on Rex. They're both pretty cool. I'll have to keep an eye out for the things that let me swap though because it's kind of annoying to have them both doubled up on roles.
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CoolCly posted...

Okay, here's my thoughts on the book

I see a lot of complaints about the pacing being awful until Part 3, but it's something I didn't notice while reading the book. Honestly I must have a ton of tolerance for Samderson's worldbuilding, because there was a LOT of it going on here that I think is needed. We know very little about the rest of Rothar outside of Alethkar and the Shattered Plains, now everyone is in a new setting and there's a unite the world plotline except we don't know anything about other parts of the world. Meanwhile we also find out the Everstorm didn't so what we think it did, though honestly my first thought on seeing it not really be so bad was that it's a bit of a copout.

The Bridge Four chapters I think are all totally necessary. Both as POVs and for Kaladin's training chapters with them. Bridge Four turns out to secretly be Kaladin's entire arc this book. He has to keep getting bailed out by other people and I think it's fine for him to chill out at this point after he basically stole the show in Shallan's book.

I also thought Kholinar dragged in the middle, though I liked the rest. Mainly Kaladin getting buddy-buddy with Not Bridge Four (tm) and Shallan dicking around as Veil forever for no reason. I feel like most of the awkwardness around this arc can be chalked up to the Oathgate problem. Sanderson knows that their plan is doomed from the start, and it almost feels like his lack of urgency seeps through to the characters. As for the armies, no one wants to march when they can potentially use their shiny new Gate. Also, I think it's stated (or implied) that military operations are already a nightmare due to the highstorms; now there are twice as many and they also messed up their ability to forecast them for most of the opening. If they try and fail it's basically suicide.

I've come down on the book a little since I finished it. I think it's more similar to WoK than WoR in that both had a lot of worldbuilding to get out of the way so the pacing drags. Only difference is that I'm already invested in the world for this one. I still think there's enough cool shit going on to put it over WoK.
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I mean, the real draw is that they seem to be a lot more powerful than the generic blades
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I dunno if others noticed it, but the amount if each booster you can carry caps out at 5. Also, when you dismiss a blade, they seem to always give at least 1 booster. I probably wasted a bunch of them from not paying attention.
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I wasn't really having problems with Tora, but after Chapter 2 I probably spent a good 45+ minutes grinding Tiger! Tiger! anyways. Unlocked all of Poppi's slots except the last two and upgraded the reactor a bunch. Now he seems like a good tank, but not exactly leagues ahead of my other party members. So it's kinda dumb if all that garbage is necessary just to keep him at base level.

I progressed enough in Chapter 3 to unlock the second stage, but it doesn't look like crystal yield improved at all. That's garbage. It's 6k and 10k for the two slots at the bottom, which will take forever unless I sell my entire inventory. I don't want to do that because I assume Poppi eventually gets different loadouts or something? I dunno. Tora being locked on role and element is pretty annoying for my Blade combos. I only have one way to do a level 3 with my current blade setup.
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I got some Idea Points from the second tier of the affinity chart. I assume they're count towards the stuff like "Justice" levels that show up on the core screen.
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I used the first rare core crystal I got with a booster and just got one of the generic robot blades. :|

Should I just be using every core crystal I get or is there a point to saving them? I still have 11 common ones.
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I'm surprised you call DotF "great" despite the negativity in the writeup! I agree with what a lot of what you said, though I'm not as high on Snyder's Joker tales as you seem to be. He does a good job with the Joker's voice, and as you say, the take on Joker as obsessed with Batman is good, but none of the plotlines seem particularly "Jokery." I dunno, it feels off. And all the batfamily stuff is just the worst in DotF.

Honestly Greg Capullo's art is the main thing that keeps these stories better than just "ok." Extremely normal opinion warning: Capullo's art is fantastic. Zero Year and Superheavy are the highlights of Snyder's run for me, and I think a large part of that is Capullo's contribution to create all these striking and memorable moments in those arcs.
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In joining the delivery woes, UPS says my copy was delivered, but it's not here! Hopefully it's in the front office, though it was delivered well after it closed. Amazon delivery has really gone downhill for me lately.
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tcaz2 posted...

Oh and I'm genuinely surprised by how not only inoffensive but somewhat likable Lift was in the final part of the book. Her original chapter and Edgedancer were GOD AWFUL to read through and I groaned the few times she showed up before that, but she was pretty decent in the final battle. Hopefully Sanderson can keep that up.

I felt this way too. I think in general, the comedic elements in the book are much improved. No more awkward Shallan humor unless she's making intentionally bad puns (which are obviously great). I definitely didn't expect Lift/Szeth/Nightblood to make such a good team

Weird tangent, but spoilers for this book and Warbreaker:
So Shashara, from Warbreaker, gets namedropped in one of Szeth's chapters. Szeth mentions the name is similar to their name for Shalash, the Herald in the last few chapters. Shashara should be extra dead though because I think it's implied Nightblood ate her soul? I'm new to the Cosmere and not sure how everything works, but is Sanderson just fucking with us or is it actually plausible they're the same person?
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tiddy tag
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tcaz2 posted...

Done!

Mmmm I think the book was overall better than Way of Kings but definitely not as good as Words of Radiance.

I think my biggest issue with it was the pacing. It was fine for the first bit and during the Kholinar stuff, but everything else just felt like it plodded. There was just huge swathes of the book after the first couple hundred pages where almost nothing happened, up until they left for Kholinar. The climax/ending stuff was also kinda weird feeling.

Also biggest disappointment of all time award goes to Taravangian. After being built up for two books and seeming like a really impressive antagonist he fell flat on his face in this book and delivered on absolutely zero of his build up.

I actually really enjoyed Taravangian's contribution to the book. His chapters and interactions with Dalimar were great to read, but more importantly I would disagree with the idea that he fell on his face. He successfully manipulated his way around the council, and the only reason his plans failed at all was divine intervention. Even after that, he didn't even get kicked off the council and also scraped by with a relatively favorable position by bargaining with Odium. Not to mention, The Diagram foreseeing his meeting with Odium could mean he's where he wants to be. He's also the only person who knows about Renarin being Odium's blind spot. This could be his endgame, but I wouldn't necessarily count him out already.
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LapisLazuli posted...

I saw a video of some basically naked woman blade with blue mesh seethrough clothes and huge bouncing tits, and realised I was too classy for this shit.

what are you talking about, this is the epitome of class
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Oh are we just posting great scenes now?


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There's a lot of great elements but overall I think it's too light on challenge and there are a good chunk of moons that are lazy and/or make little sense. The world designs are good and it does the open world well, but honestly I just prefer the 3D Marios with more emphasis on platforming.

Hat jumping is godlike though
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mnkboy907 posted...

Damn, impressions from regular people who got the game early say that undocked mode is actually rather bad when you're out in the open areas.

I feel like I'll probably still be okay with it, because I mean I still play the 3DS in 2017 so obviously graphics aren't everything to me, but still I hope I won't be disappointed.

Do the graphics just get a little worse to compensate or is it stuff like major framerate issues? Most of my Switch play is in handheld mode.
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It's spam because of the old Monty Python sketch where they repeat the word a lot
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I unironically cannot wait to play this game in two years when they're finally finished adding stuff to it
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I can see arguing that Brave New World added too much complexity bloat (I disagree), but vanilla Civ V is unplayable garbage compared to Gods and Kings.
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It's not like Pixar has 5 sequels planned, it's that Disney also has sequels and remakes going on at the same time which makes the whole compay seem creatively bankrupt.

But I cant fault them for this particular lineup. Pixar fans have been demanding Incredible 2 for years, basically since they started doing sequels again, and Frozen and Wreck-it-Ralph sequels were celebrated on announcement.
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No World Congress yet? I really liked that feature from Civ 5 so I'd hoped they'd add in in sooner rather than later.

Still, I was just holding out on buying until the first expansion and the rest of this stuff sounds cool.
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I don't think Geoff Johns was going for a redemption arc. It felt to me like a "Lex pretends to be a good guy for a while" arc. It looked like some subterfuge was set up but then Darkseid War and Rebirth happened so there was never any payoff.

New 52 Justice League really was a series filled with Geoff Johns's discarded ideas and dropped plot points.
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Aw, Luthor was the one thing making me consider looking into Jurgen's run.

What recent Lex are you comparing it to, though? Johns has always written a ridiculously good Luthor and he's the most recent I can think of due to Forever Evil/Justice League shenanigans.
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metaIslug posted...

That's not steamed hams

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Psycho_Kenshin posted...

Invincible (concluding soon)

Oh man it's ending? I might have to catch up. I stopped reading shortly past 100 right after the Robot arc ended. How's it been since then?
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Lunch meat turkey is good and turkey legs at fairs and whatnot are awesome. But I've never had a good Thanksgiving turkey that I can remember. No one in my extended family can cook a turkey. At this point this is like 6 different family chefs at the very least? And no, I don't want to have to pour gravy on it to consider it just ok.

I just convince whoever I'm eating with to get ham now. Fuck Thanksgiving turkey.
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Wedge Antilles posted...

Not sure what was going on at the end there with Hoid during the Epilogue.

Seemed to be entirely just to set him up as bonding a Cryptic. I guess look forward to Hoid becoming whoever he wants with Lightweaving in future books.
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Bump. Been reading Warbreaker now since it seems like it's better late than never at this point. It's nothing like I was expecting!
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Maybe they put more stock into fan reviews or discussion. The people I've seen who want to hate Doomsday Clock are determined to hate it.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Well it's not like I'm completely going Yeah, Dalinar burn those innocents!

But I am saying, he had every right to make Tanalan and his people pay for the betrayal like that.

You said you were rooting for him! But either way by your same sentiment, Tanalan has every right to try to assassinate Dalinar. It's all just petty revenge. Especially for Dalinar, who is just salty he fell for the rockslide trick twice.

But seriously, Dalinar and Sadeas both knew that Gavilar wouldn't want this, and acted quickly so that he couldn't find out and make any orders. They then came up with a cover story to make it look better after the fact. They did this because they knew full well that the king would just disavow their actions and they would face no consequenes. None of these are things you do if you are morally justified!
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ExThaNemesis posted...

...Dalinar as completely justified? He came and offered Tanalan a chance to stand down. Tanalan proceeded to betray Dalinar, killing most of his elites and almost killing him in brutal, cowardly fashion.

You say this, but dropping oil on the town from above to watch it burn instead of taking it is even more brutal and pretty cowardly too. None of the civilians did anything wrong so why should they share Tanalan's grave? Its Dalinar's fault Tanalan is even rebelling in the first place. Not to mention, he doesn't even seem to be aware he gave the order to raze the entire town. It doesn't even fit with his reputation as the Blackthorn, as by his accounts he cut the pillaging out of his army pretty early on. So it's just preposterous overkill and definitely fucked up.

Evi could have used a little more development bit the whole idea is that Dalinar is ignoring her and his kids as much as he can while he fights. Considering that I think it was good enough. You can also see her influence on Adolin's and Renarin's personality quirks once it's established she's the one raising them.
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CoolCly posted...

This is a very weird view on depression

Kaladin isn't clinically depressed from the chemical imbalance in his brain

Also I gotta disagree with this. Kaladin certainly has reasons for his sadness, but the way it's described goes beyond normal fictional angst and is very much in line with some forms of depression. There's a good amount of possible reasons it can't be "healed" (we barely understand how brain chemistry works in the first place and I doubt Roshar has a better grasp on it) but just because he can also be happy doesn't mean he isn't depressed. That's a major factor in depression.
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Finished the book! Enjoyed it about as much as WoR, though the two are great in different ways. Really looking forward to seeing where things go from here. SPOILERS BELOW

So I was totally wrong about Eshonai being the spren tailing Venli. Misdirected again by Sanderson. What sticks out to me is the lore rollercoaster that the parshman/listener/singer backstory has been across these three books, despite their almost total lack of agency. Even the sympathetic listeners in this book are mainly prodded around by the humans. That said, it's kinda suspicious that the "good" listeners have been dying in droves while it's also established that their souls don't move on and can come back as Fused. I'm hoping they begin to take an active role in events in the next book.

Speaking of which, people seem to be down on the twist that the original Voidbringers were humans, but I think it fits well into the theming of ambiguity. It needs the context of humanity being refugees from destroying a world, but I think either twist on its own is a lot weaker out of context. Especially since the Recreance was centuries after the final desolations, which were seemingly over, I can buy the Knights dissolving over it.

The whole last act was spectacular. Jasnah being able to cut loose was the best part, followed by Renarin getting to do something finally. If I wasn't sold on Lift before, I am now. She's much better bouncing off of actual important characters as dedicated comic relief, rather than being on her own and only having Wyndle as a good foil. "Awesomeness" is still lame though.

But I think my favorite part of the book was the Bridge Four POVs. Lopen cracks me up and I can't wait to find out all their tragic backstories just in time for them to die horribly or something.
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Doomsday Clock was solid. It's not the same as the old but it's a version of Watchmen I can get behind for now. I liked the callback to Morrison New 52 Action Comics and Mime and the "What's his problem?" exchange cracked me up. I couldn't dislike this if I wanted to.
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Yeah he's been executive producer on most Disney and Pixar movies since Princess and the Frog. Even if you don't like the upcoming sequel hell, he was also a big player in everything since Disney's "revival."

Still, it's for the best and I don't really expect the quality to nosedive. Disney should have plenty of talent waiting to step out from under his shadow by now.
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Yeah prof's suggestion could work. Either way, I haven't quite finished the book yet, but it feels to me that Eshonai's contribution to the present storyline probably isn't done.
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He probably pushed the timeline around. Act 3 feels like something he could've been planning to end a book with at some point.

Mac Arrowny posted...

Post-part one spoilers:
Not sure how an Eshonai flashback book would work, unless she becomes a Fused somehow...?

Minor full series planning spoilers?
I'm expecting that to happen. Sanderson was talking about Eshonai getting a book during the writing process for Oathbringer. So she either comes back, or his plans drastically changed mid-writing, or he was pulling a fast one on his fans. Personally, I love Eshonai, so if she ends up not getting a book after he said she would, I'm gonna be upset.
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Eerieka posted...

tcaz2 posted...

The week thing has been mentioned before. And no, the boy hadn't bound the blade. He simply raised it against him so Dalinar went 'lol get ded'.

Alright, I wasn't sure. I had been under the impression that the boy was bound to the blade and thus Dalinar had to kill him to acquire it.

Even when bound, Shardblades can be unbound by pressing the gem. That's how they're able to trade them and lend them out.

okay that one wasn't even a spoiler I guess
the spoiler box gods must be appeased though
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Just finished part 3. This book is nuts! I almost can't believe I still have about 400 pages to go.

HUGE PART 3 SPOILERS

The Kholinar stuff dragged in the middle, but the rest made it worth it. This act was just so horribly dark compared to everything else that it's such a compelling read. Dalinar's backstory and Shallan's character both went darker than I was expecting (Dalinar's MUCH so), and I'm looking forward to seeing where they go. I don't have any real analysis (too many questions still despite all the exposition), but I will gush about how Sanderson's method of casually dropping major plot shit gets me every god damn time. It's such a HOLY SHIT moment when the queen reveals there was a third Unmade all along, and that she's fucking bonded it. And of course Elhokar dying AS HE'S BECOMING RADIANT is so rude. That chapter made me feel as empty as Kaladin did, thanks Sanderson.
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JL#33 just made me realize how much I want to like Cyborg, and how much DC wants me to like Cyborg, and how impossible it is to make him cool when he's part of the Justice League.

I think the best he's been was when he was just bros with Shazam back when Johns was writing.
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Eddv posted...

I do like the idea of The Joker as a character with a particular obsessive psychosis towards Batman. Batman completely ruined him - is responsible for his freakish disfiguring. That's really motivation enough. This temptation to elevate him beyond - highly motivated unpowered foil to highly motivated unpowered Batman just stems from DCs tendency to let Batman be like kind of absurd sometimes.

This really hits the nail on the head; it's not just a Joker problem, but a Batman problem. He's been elevated to crazy high-profile near-cataclysmic events as his status quo, which means his villains need to evolve with him. Morrison and Snyder wrote Batman in completely insane stories for a decade, but while Morrison had great street-level stories being published alongside him for balance, we haven't had a great street-level writer since, well, Snyder, on Detective Comics!

Joker is just the logical villain to elevate, after Ra's al-Ghul, who has been thoroughly exhausted in recent years and I doubt we'll get a fresh take on him anytime soon. Personally, I'm fine with Joker being more than just some crazy guy and a force of nature in the same way that Batman is. Morrison did a great job of creating a Joker that feels like the old but is scary in new, strange ways. There's definitely room for that multiple-choice interpretation where he is just a normal guy pushed to absurd levels - similar to Bruce! But this has proved hard to write.

I've always liked the idea that it isn't really Batman creating his villains (there's only so much of that flavor of angst I can take), but that Gotham itself is cursed and Joker and Batman are just more monsters it made. So I'm okay with a sort of supernatural mystique around Joker. But it's definitely gotten to be too much about the actual character of the Joker and writers desperately trying to one-up the last guy. Which started with him cutting off his damn face and now we have this "three Jokers" thing that feels like Geoff Johns putting this weird toy in the toybox that no one even wants to look at.
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I got 10 chapters I put it down to read through Edgedancer before I got too far. Just finished it and I actually enjoyed it way more than I thought I would! I suppose either I'm starting to warm up to Lift or it was the abrupt tonal shift her chapter caused in WoR that was so off-putting. It had some nice worldbuilding and character details outside of her, too. Would recommend to anyone else who ignored it initially.

Now back to business!
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https://twitter.com/yellowcardigan/status/931250879864430592

so dril wrote a SB&HJ book that will come out soon

what a wonderful world
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Anagram posted...

What do you think of Batman going from brooding loner to having the biggest supporting cast outside of X-Men?

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Eddv posted...

PLUS Wonder Woman has a non-shitty creative direction again, featuring Greek Gods, Baby Darkseid and a lot of pretending that the last 2-3 years of her book aside from the Darkseid war never happened basically,

Wait, does this include the Rebirth continuity which was pretending the 2-3 years of her book before that never happened? Poor Diana.

Also, tag. Haven't been really keeping up with Rebirth but I did come back for Metal, which has been fucking rad.
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