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get the ffxv people to work for the fed or something and we'll be set
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yeah

its a good thing governments are fucking terrible at understanding basic human incentives or we'd be totally screwed
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so did foolmo just give up on coming to houston or what
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but saying there needs to be damage for a crime to have taken place is just stupid.

I mean in just about every other example that is the exact definition of a crime.
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When I was in high school I used to drive home from my friend's house drunk at 2 AM all the time. We both lived out in the country and 90% of the time I would never encounter even one other driver on the road. It was literally safer (for everyone involved) than driving on a busy interstate while wide awake in the middle of the day with no distractions.
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Lopen posted...

If you miss the people and the property should that not be a crime either?

Nothing should be a crime unless a harm was done. If your behavior instills a certain fear in your neighbors, they could argue that it has harmed them and perhaps a crime was committed. In any case, there's a clear victim and accuser who can point at you and say "this person harmed me."

If you shoot a gun over a neighbor's house and he's not home and it doesn't break anything he owns, no harm was done. There is no victim. The fact that he may have been home is irrelevant. He wasn't home. If you do it while he's home, that's different.
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http://www.npr.org/2017/09/18/551217204/hillary-clinton-says-shes-optimistic-about-our-country-but-i-am-not-naive

Have I told you she's going to run again in 2020? Because she's going to run again in 2020.
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Altimadark posted...

I've heard something to the effect of "marijuana makes you paranoid, which can offset the negative effects of driving while stoned."

Not sure how reliable my vague memory of that conversation piece is.

Completely anecdotal and made up and based on nothing.

Similar to "drunk people concentrate really hard on driving because they don't want to get a DUI which actually makes them drive more safely on average"
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oh

I... don't know. I should have said TC probably.
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In his view, there's nothing inherently wrong with putting others at risk as long as that risk never pans out.

Driving AT ALL puts others at risk. There are fatal crashes every day where nobody was impaired or distracted by anything. The things we penalize people for and how much we penalize them are so arbitrary it makes little to no sense. Studies have shown texting while driving is just as dangerous, and yet it carries virtually no social stigma and like a $200 fine, while getting a DUI makes people consider you scum of the Earth and you're probably losing your job, license, and spending at least a couple days in prison.
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tazzyboyishere posted...

@SmartMuffin can you elaborate

Penalizing drunk driving is like penalizing shooting a gun into the air. In the vast majority of cases, it results in no harm to anyone.

That said, it certainly is high-risk behavior and sometimes it goes wrong. People should be penalized for when it goes wrong. Just like they are in every other instance of life. Drunk driving is basically the only "pre-emptive" crime that exists in society anymore.
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God forbid you have to wait an extra week to play some 20 year old games
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Hey we don't have to make a big thing about this. You could all just admit I'm right, stop replying, and the OT can close the topic!
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Drunk driving is a victimless crime. Reckless driving resulting in injury or death should be strictly forbidden tho.
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http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/18/trump-let-a-kid-mow-the-white-house-lawn

more headlines need to include the phrase "idiot asks"
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foolm0r0n posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/70qjlv/i_was_just_doing_my_job_soviet_officer_who/

Same reaction every time people see stories like this. It's always about how insanely close we got to total destruction, and how magically lucky we were to avoid these close calls not once, twice, but over a dozen times.

If a quarter lands on its edge a dozen times in a row, that's not luck. There's magnets or something forcing it up. It's actually extremely normal and expected. It's only your ignorance that causes the perception of insane luck.

Basically agree. Talked about this on SSC recently. Everyone theorizes all these dramatic "end of the world" or "world war 3" scenarios (i.e. if we implement a no-fly zone over Syria and someone shoots down a Russian plane they will immediately declare war on the US and start launching nukes). And these theories definitely make sense from the autistic game theory perspective, i.e. aggregated to thinking like a government. But they fall apart once you realize that you're dealing with actual people who need to launch actual weapons and aren't going to do it based on realpolitik game theory. They're only going to do that if they're absolutely fucking sure it's necessary to ensure their own survival.
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http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/15/college-journalist-attacked-for-not-bein
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I listened to David Duke's speech in Charlottesville on a livestream. At no point did he call for large-scale murder or anything even remotely resembling it.
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That they do not have a right to speak in public unopposed when they threaten to eliminate large swathes of the American public.

About 99% of their speech is not this, though.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Holy shit those socks

man how out of touch are you

weird/bright color socks are now completely common in the business world, its a way you can pretend to be unique and creative while still wearing the same dark suit everyone else has to wear
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I wonder if the ZFT gives him any shit for that
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Also I can't find a way to watch Eat That Question for less than $15

might end up torrenting it :(
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Seems like they still plan on doing it, just logged in to check their latest update

I’m beginning to put the film together now, as we wind down the preservation work, so it will be a while before the doc itself is done. But it’s all moving!

We’re getting it done! The preservation labor has been intense, but we’re in the final stages, with just a few months left to go until our work is done, and all endangered material will be museum-grade archived!
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soon
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Super busy, but just want to say some of my rewards from that documentary kickstarter showed up in the mail today

There's actually a bunch of cool stuff in here. I'll go through it all and report back later. I hope the movie actually gets made at some point.
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I should probably know this, but are they all Gail's kids, or were the older ones from his first marriage?
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Song of 2/20: Tell Me You Love Me (from Chunga's Revenge)


Played while I was on the plane today.
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Song of 2/19 or thereabouts: You Didn't Try To Call Me (from Freak Out)


Played on shuffle recently.
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http://mynewsla.com/business/2017/03/10/dweezil-moon-unit-face-attack-by-2-younger-zappa-kids/

not getting better
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Song of 2/8: For Calvin And His Next Two Hitch Hikers


Being almost a month behind, it may be time to discuss whether we intend to keep this up!
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Song of 2/4: Jazz Discharge Party Hats (from The Man From Utopia)


Pointless story that goes nowhere. Not even the best song about Albuquerque!
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Song of 2/3: San Ber'Dino (from One Size Fits All)


Just doing this because it's on the same album and its good
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Song of 2/2: Pojama People (from One Size Fits All)


There is an actual reason I'm doing this one but it's long and rambly so for now just take my word for it.
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Song of 2/1: Sharleena (from You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol 3)


I feel like it's been a bit since we've had some Sharleena.
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up
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Song of 1/21: Flower Punk (from We're Only In It For The Money)


Played on my phone while walking home from work.
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Song of 1/18: Dead Girls of London (from Beat The Boots: Anyway The Wind Blows)


I like this song a lot for something that never really got "proper" treatment...
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Song of 1/17: Camarillo Brillo (from Over-Nite Sensation)


The chorus is some of my favorite FZ wordplay.
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don't you ever wash is an underrated instrumental
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do some songs yo
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Song of 1/12: Catholic Girls (from Joe's Garage)


no real reason, just felt like it
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Song of 1/11: Dog Breath (from Just Another Band from LA)


underrated song and album!
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Song of 1/10: Trouble Every Day (from Freak Out)


Blues on Freak Out!
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Song of 1/9: Let's Move to Cleveland (from You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol 4)


This isn't really Let's Move to Cleveland so much as it is some random jazz stuff.
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Song of 1/8: Apostrophe (from Apostrophe)


We've probably done this recently but I'm doing it again anyway because I was just watching hockey (Kings vs Rangers) and they actually played this during a stoppage in play! I've been watching hockey pretty regularly since 2003 and I've NEVER heard them play Zappa before until tonight. Good job, Madison Square Garden audio dude!
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up
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Song of 1/7: City of Tiny Lites (from Sheik Yerbouti)


Was looking for a different version, but it's so hard to find exactly what you're looking for on Youtube these days!
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Song of 1/6: Son of Suzy Creamcheese (from Absolutely Free)


Suzy Creamcheese is overused as a meme but this song is actually kinda okay.
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Song of 1/4: Anyway The Wind Blows (from Freak Out)


Some high quality parody doo wop!
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