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http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/27/moms-run-in-with-alleged-sex-traffickers

this kinda stuff is amazing
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it's not "less bad" so much as "not even remotely comparable"

it's also a blatantly transparent attempt, by you, to associate Trump with literally the worst evils in the history of the human race, for ideological purposes

"communist china and trump" makes no sense in any logical way, "communist china and the soviet union and cuba and cambodia and nazi germany" might, but that might require you to take off your che t-shirt
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I didn't "passionately defend Trump", I attacked Chinese communism, which murdered 10s of millions of people.

To which foolmo's response is "but Trump tho"
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just got a targeted FB ad for custom-ordered condoms (available in 10 sizes)

not sure if joke or not
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the first two headlines on FEE

what in the actual fuck happened to this place

https://fee.org/articles/football-is-problematic-but-not-because-of-taketheknee/

https://fee.org/articles/in-praise-of-virtue-signaling/
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https://twitter.com/BobMurphyEcon/status/912459369618526209
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on the other hand, that time I sneezed and the person next to me didn't say bless you was basically just like the holocaust
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nah im pretty sure what the flaws actually are is relevant to consider
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what exactly has trump done that you think is comparable to 50 million murders
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btw "all its flaws" includes like 50 million dead people
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https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/912469539283177472

literal NYT headline
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lol "can't afford a car"

the real #fakerich just uber everywhere

thats even more expensive
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So not only are they costing the league money by enraging their core customer base, they're literally putting the owners in breach of their contract with the US government.

It's in the NFL rules that they have to stand. The "say" they have in it comes in labor negotiations. They're re-negotiated their collective bargaining agreement with the league multiple times since 2009. If they don't like it, they should negotiate for it, or find a different job. They are literally paid entertainers. If someone says "stand up at this time" then you do it.
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unique?

nah, there's millions of wannabe indie devs out there who think they know better than the professionals
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one is an actual successful company with decades of experience surviving in a competitive marketplace

the other is some millennial indie dude who assumes he knows better than all of those people
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The customer was the person saying "be more candid." He was providing constructive criticism.

The response was "oh I'm already doing that" (which is the WORST possible way to respond to criticism ever as it just makes you appear tone deaf), immediately followed by "okay well actually im not but the only reason im not is because it's annoying to do"
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https://twitter.com/charlesrandall/status/911987526541430784

the most foolmo tweet ever, instead of actually listening to customers, just tell them they're wrong

(and even better, the clarifying replies after it basically say "actually the guy was write but it's his own fault because our customers suck)
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foolm0r0n posted...

Also I don't get the lack of self-awareness when people who say NFL players taking a knee causes Trump don't understand that Trump attacking 1 NFL player for taking a knee causes 100 more NFL players to take a knee (and NBA now too apparently)

I just told you. Trump WANTS more players to take a knee. That earns him more votes.
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foolm0r0n posted...

The reason people hate the anthem protestors and such is NOT AT ALL because it is disrespectful. It's because it's pro-black and trying to acknowledge that government didn't actually magically solve racism in 1964. There are TONS of disrespectful protests that white people do that are not at all offensive to Trump supporters and the nation in general. Flying the confederate flag, saying the n word, anti immigrant stuff, communist rallies, not signing Kaepernick, defending statues which Robert E Lee himself despised, supporting the drug war, school shootings, even voting Trump to disrespect the presidency.

There is not even 1 millisecond of thought that a protest is too disrespectful or offensive, when it is pro-white. It's not a left/right thing either. It's literally just white vs black.

Its impossible for any pro-black protest to be seen as reasonable and respectful, when it's still offensive and disrespectful for black people to merely exist as free individuals.

So then, why give a shit about being seen as respectful? Trump will have his "blacks are disrespectful" ammo either way

its almost hilarious how wrong you are

http://deadspin.com/detroits-lions-ban-racist-fan-from-stadium-1811576833

if a white person is caught using the n-word they are instantly and permanently banned from the nfl

and this wasn't even like "he got in a fight with some black people and was kicked out" this was literally a social media witchhunt
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foolm0r0n posted...

TheRock1525 posted...

So what do you think is going to replace football as the major North American sport? Because ratings were kinda sagging before Kaep kneeling.

Dota

you joke but this is part of it

esports have to be stealing market share from SOMEWHERE
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yeah so long as it's for social justice all rude and deliberately provocative behavior is acceptable I guess

thanks for 100% accurately summing up what the left thinks and why people are continuing to reject them
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and if you try and be all ACTHKTUALLY THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS MY RIGHT TO WEAR MUDDY SHOES INDOORS you're completely missing the point and are just being a dick
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CelesMyUserName posted...

kneeling isn't disrespect god fuck

when the anthem plays, you are politely asked to stand

to not only refuse to stand, but to deliberately kneel is to intentionally do the exact opposite of the thing your host (the stadium, who takes its marching instructions from the owners, who are literally the players boss) has politely asked you to do

I mean I guess we can get really technical about whether that's "disrespect" or whatever, but it's certainly pretty damn close

like, if you go to someone's house and they politely ask you to take off your shoes, but instead of doing that, you swap out your shoes for a muddier pair of shoes and start jumping on their couch, that's probably not a cool thing to do, even if you're totally only doing it to protest racism
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Actually it's very likely to be a win because the controversy is more likely to create an uptick in viewership than a downturn, as there will be more people tuning in just to see what happens.

I don't think that's true. It certainly wasn't true last year.

And when I say it's "a win for Trump" I mean it makes it more likely he'll win in 2020, not that it hurts the NFL's pocketbook (which is not what he cares about)

The more images you have of the left disrespecting the flag and the anthem, the more it looks like Trump has a point. Even the organized left eventually figured this out and stopped sending paid protesters to Trump rallys to burn American flags. But Goodell and NFL players are amateurs who don't understand strategy, so they'll play right into his hands unless George Soros calls them up and is all "dudes, you aren't helping here..."
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and by the way, it almost seems like Trump has created a situation wherein, leftist celebrities, thinking that it'll be a great way to stick it to Trump, are going to disrespect the flag and the national anthem, that's SUCH a huge win for Trump it's almost mind-boggling master wizardry.

My guess is, many more players will be kneeling today and ESPN and the NFL will promote this as a victory for the left and a defeat for Trump, when in reality, it's the exact opposite.
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Oh well sure, they'll probably technically be "#1" for a long time, sure. But their days of being #1 by a mile and being super mainstream and being relevant to virtually every male (and about half of females) from the ages of 5 - 80 are over. The market is going to fracture and fragment in a major way. And instead of trying to prevent that, they're actively trying to court it. Society is becoming increasingly politically divided and instead of saying to themselves "we achieved a dominant position by not taking sides, so let's try and do that" they're basically saying "TAKE SIDES TAKE SIDES" then being just shocked that their ratings are down and that every time they make a political statement (or choose not to make one, because the precedent has been set that making political statements is on the table for them), half the country hates them.

I especially love how individual owners are making anti-Trump statements while still refusing to sign Kapernick. The ultimate "everyone else should look out for the social good, but eh, this would hurt my pocketbook so I'll pass." They all know that their fans would hate them and it would hit them in the wallet. And yet, Trump is the evil guy for saying so. Put your money where your mouth is (down the toilet) or shut up.

And no, baseball isn't big. Not nationally at least. It's a super regional thing. It's big in Boston and Chicago and St. Louis and occasionally in other cities where a team happens to be pretty good for a few years (San Francisco, DC, etc.) but nationwide it's irrelevant.

Maybe the future landscape looks something like this.

Blue-collar, blue-tribe: Flag football (seriously, I know you guys don't think CTE is political, but it is, and it's the left who cares)
White-collar, blue-tribe: Soccer (what better way to reject America than by embracing Eurosport!)
Blue-collar, red-tribe: UFC (the ultimate redpill championship)
White-collar, red-tribe: Golf (top tax bracket required for membership)
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TheRock1525 posted...

So what do you think is going to replace football as the major North American sport? Because ratings were kinda sagging before Kaep kneeling.

Nothing. There's no ironclad law that we have to have a "major" sport.
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they think that speaking out against trump can save the sinking ship

(spoilers, it can't. democrats are going to be the ones who ban football because of CTE anyway)
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up
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I'm sure he was lying but like, I feel like you can't really sue for that unless he was literally promising something in the agreement that he didn't provide or fabricated numbers beyond saying "yeah we do 5000"

Uh I'm pretty sure you can. Lying about material information in financial deals is definitely fraud. And "how many people actually buy your product" is about as material as it gets.
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http://www.zappa.com/news/frank-zappa-back-road-hologram-tour

a real hologram, I mean not real, but...
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TheRock1525 posted...

Well the 49ers are incredibly awful (and the Rams aren't good, either) and California generally offers alternatives that you don't need to go and watch terrible football.

Yeah but neither of them are THAT awful. They aren't like, Cleveland or Jacksonville. And this is literally a division rivalry game! And intra-state rivalry now!
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https://twitter.com/CryingJordan/status/910671099041583105

memes literally a jeopardy category
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/911062285967224832

wait what

I never knew this
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https://twitter.com/EmptySeatsPics/status/911024861920800769

nfl attendance doin great
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Jakyl25 posted...

They usually toss those in these surveys. NJPW is in there too.

They just want to see if there's SO much interest in those companies that they might be worth buying.

See, the smart thing to do would be to buy all the good foreign promotions, but leave TNA intact just so you have a really shitty competitor that makes you look even better
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I support the death penalty for anyone who begins a sentence with "the most lit part"
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Jakyl25 posted...

https://i.redd.it/wubjirrbkaxy.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDl004uXkAAgGxn.jpg
http://pm1.narvii.com/6455/59ed848eb53da367b0b078edc2b60f6630547285_hq.jpg
http://www.voicesofwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/C5S9dPEW8AIG15E.jpg
https://oswtv.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/img_0933-1.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pejxxuTWV-Y/hqdefault.jpg
https://hashtagwrest.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/img_4514-1.jpg


Going from clickbait listicles to putting a tournament this huge together is a real feat

whatever happened to our idea for everyone on b8 to pitch in and book an indie show for a meetup or something
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I mean it's not legal to disrupt a private gathering, although the actual crime you're committing at that point is probably closer to trespassing than anything else.
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im worldwide biatch act like yall dont know
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http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/19/study-44-of-students-incorrectly-think-t

man did I call this or what?

official predix: This will break 60% by 2020

Men were more likely than women to say hate speech was protected (51 percent vs. 31 percent.) And while conservative students are often thought to be more in favor of free speech than their liberal counterparts%u2014at least in the present campus censorship wars%u2014the study suggests this reputation is undeserved. Just 44 percent of self-identified Republicans said that hate speech was protected by the First Amendment, compared with 39 percent of Democrats and 40 percent of independents.

A striking majority of surveyed students%u201451 percent%u2014thought "shouting so that the audience cannot hear" was a valid tactic for opposing a controversial speaker. Violence was acceptable to 19 percent of respondents.

"Across most categories, and in the aggregate, the majority of students appear to prefer an environment in which their institution is expected to create an environment that shelters them from offensive views," wrote Villasenor. "The exceptions are among Republicans and Independents, though even in those categories nearly half of the students still expressed a preference for the more sheltered environment."
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yaaaaas pit them against each other

http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/20/unions-battle-environmentalists-for-thei
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/europe/spain-catalonia-politics/index.html
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https://www.nhl.com/news/crosby-lemieux-linemates-for-oregon-football/c-291156510?tid=281396148

There won't be an NHL topic for a bit, but just in case ExTha checks in here... ABSOLUTE PROOF SATAN IS INVOLVED
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http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2017/09/13/550793717/episode-647-hard-work-is-irrelevant

The right-thinking progressives at planet money are shocked (shocked!) to discover that the labor theory of value is a bunch of crap and that good companies ignore it.
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http://reason.com/blog/2017/09/19/hours-after-hurricane-irma-miami-dade-co

this is pretty amazing
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comparing DUIs to the war on drugs is definitely a comparison that im pretty sure works in my favor here !
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I mean it's more a thing that happens - "no romantic connection" is basically "I don't want to see you again but you're not Satan or anything"

I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing this. Almost every girl I've ever met gives me the old, "you'd be really great... for someone else."

Just for once I'd like them to say that I AM satan. That they can't stand me, don't find me attractive, aren't impressed by my money, and wouldn't wish me on their worst enemy.
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is ulti trying to give me dating advice?

thats probably the single most depressing thing to ever happen to me in my life
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that's pretty much how things worked everywhere until like 100 years ago

even general crimes without specific victims were basically considered crimes against the king/queen, but a specific victim was still identified
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