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Steve Nick posted...

Sounds like he basically just repeatedly badgered her with "Sex now? How about now? Now? How about this? This? Wanna do it over there? Here do this" and she did like half the things he asked.

Is this not some form of coercion?
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EducatedGuy posted...

Psychological impacts ?

There seems to be a link between thinking in terms of relative wealth and misperceptions of financial health.
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Don't fall into the trap of labeling your relative comfort as 'poor'. Really destroys the meaning of the word, and likely has psychological impacts.
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darkjedilink posted...

No, they likely don't have self-awareness.

Then again, anyone attacking religious parents, but defending any hard-leftist doesn't, either.

You say that like the idea of universities being liberal indoctrination centers actually has merit lol
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

You're asking for specific examples I'm questioning a concept.

You clearly have something you want to jump in with but are holding back to do so. Stop trying to lead me to your favourite waterpool and just come out with it.

Nobody can actually discuss this unless you are specific.

As a generality, one can only say 'sure, the environment constraining genetic diversity had some sort of impact on the societies that developed in that area.'

It's so vague that it needs to be true, essentially. When people talk about racism within the concepts, it involves instantiations that are often much better described by other factors, like criminality.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

As for what I mean, the idea that the reality of a society's geographical location inclines societies in certain ways in term of their evolution.

This too vague to address. What ways?

At least you addressed the mechanism, which is genetic.
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NibeIungsnarf posted...

I'm really not. Why don't you just say what you want to say?

What do you mean by geographical determinism? What is being determined? How are you presupposing these are determined?

Maybe if you answer these questions, people can begin addressing your topic. Otherwise, it's just people taking random stabs based on what they assume you mean by geographical determinism. Though, I'm suggesting this is what you wanted, so you could portray the other side as confused and illogical when different people assume different things.
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Trying your best to not define the term and give it context.
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You were deliberately as vague as possible so as to create misunderstanding and debate. This topic is pretty transparent.
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KingCrabCake posted...

Also you can disagree with ones opinions without insulting someone....crazy i know

I mean, if you say something stupid, imma call it stupid.

I'll also explain why it's stupid, but the whole "respect everyone's opinion as if it were equally valid" thing is nonsense.
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KingCrabCake posted...

respecting ones opinions.

Your shitty views aren't safe guarded from criticism because "it's just your opinion man".

Free speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism.
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Now we know why you seem to like the nude beach so much.
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It seems pretty fucked up that you would deliberately misrepresent cases of sexual harassment to troll a message board. Take a hard long look at yourself.
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bluezero posted...

I only buy ice cream in pints

Yeah, it's only 5000% more expensive.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Psst he's lying

Yes, everyone is conspiring against you, lying about it just to ruin your topic.
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pinky0926 posted...

May just be a language thing, but same difference

Oh, there may be a language difference here. A tea towel and kitchen towel are interchangeably used for a cloth towel kept in the kitchen for various kitchenly tasks. Paper towel are the disposables.

If I'm understanding now, you were using kitchen towels to refer to paper towels?
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Tbf, I wouldn't put a kitchen towel anywhere near food, unless you have an absurd washing schedule.
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Godnorgosh posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

COVxy posted...

ABD in a PhD program in integrative neuroscience.

And you've never worked a day in your life

He's a PhD student, so he probably works his ass off for meager (if any) pay. I work for a living. What people like COVxy are doing is much more challenging than what I do, and it takes tremendous discipline and patience.

No need to respond to him lol.
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ABD in a PhD program in integrative neuroscience.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

Sure, the handful of times he actually appears as the clown

and when he's not appearing as a clown he is depicting the fear of children, often in the most ridiculous forms possible
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orcus_snake posted...

Funbazooka posted...

WOAH, thsi is actually a thing...

I'm pretty sure that's the same person in all of those pics lmao. Seems like a really shitty way to convey a "phenomenon".
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_Schwarzlicht_ posted...

the leper, which was just shite in the new movie.

That one's really hard to translate properly to a movie, tbf, since it's based on the kid's fear of a homeless man trying to give him a blowjob. Loses all significance without that back story.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

1990 IT is a god damn comedy ffs.

Pennywise was a cornball in the book lol.
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You can expect it to be a less faithful adaptation of the book than the 1990 miniseries.
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Despite people saying that 2003 went off the rails in the second half, it seems to remain much more self consistent, answering way more questions, rather than relying on alchemy more or less being magical.
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S1nharvest posted...

Squall28 posted...

I think it's in your head. That's something I would ask people of any race.

Why would you ask any human being that question

How old are you?

I don't expect to see too many people in their 20's with kids now a days.
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Unless you're in your mid to late 30's, I'd react the same way, regardless. I think you are being a bit overly sensitive here.
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ZMythos posted...

Antifar posted...

Oh boy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTT5JRaW4AAzqvf.jpg:large

So the metaphorical wall is a literal wall again, huh.

Could you graze that from that transcript? Because I certainly couldn't lol.
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At this point, it was just kind of sad. People only care that he got banned because they no longer have someone to laugh at.
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averagejoel posted...

in other words, it addresses a grey area in sex. it is not a binary

and you can see their peer-review process yourself:
http://www.nature.com/authors/policies/peer_review.html

You are confusing their actual academic journal with their news and opinions website. The latter works like any other online news publication, rather than the link you just provided.
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The Admiral posted...

COVxy posted...

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.

It certainly doesn't help when the respected universities you always defend go along with this mentality:

https://record.umich.edu/articles/students-now-may-designate-personal-pronouns-class-rosters

So is Facebook, and pretty much every institution heavily involved with young people simply because that's how PR departments work.

The university as an institution, you realize, has very little to do with those actually at the institution.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

like that darklit dude? he doesn't think it's stupid... and he doesn't see the benefit in calling this ridiculous stupid shit out.

I don't see how calling it out is a benefit. List the actual downsides of this stupidity.

I'm a very live and let live type of person - if it doesn't harm anyone else, you can do whatever the fuck you want to

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.
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Pretty much everyone worthwhile agrees that gender fluidity and non binary stuff is stupid.

The issue is that people conflate these with transgender.
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Equal effort doesn't mean equal reward in our society, so how you can chalk it all up to personal responsibility is beyond me.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

COVxy posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

Why fortunately?

Heuristics exist for a reason, they work really well, most of the time. If we didn't take shortcuts in computations, if we were maximally rational and explicit, we would be extremely inefficient, which likely was detrimental to survival.

lol what?

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Darklit_Minuet posted...

GreatEvilEmpire posted...

That's your problem right there. You think they were women to begin with. They're not. If they were women, they would be able to bear children...and yet not one of them are able to.

My female friend was born female and can't have children, so do you think she's not a woman?

Got him with the good old modus tollens.

lol
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thelovefist posted...

Shut the fuck up

Thank you for your input.
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The Admiral posted...

"Acceptance" means not treating them like freaks and giving them the same basic respect as everyone else.

Almost identical in form the the argument "homosexuals have the same rights as everyone else, they can get married to the opposite sex if they'd like!"

If we make the argument more appropriate, wouldn't you agree that it wouldn't be giving you respect if someone walked up to you and said you were womanly? Or correspondingly, if someone walked up to a woman and told them that they were manly? Attacks on your gender identity are not 'respectful', so why would labeling someone who identifies as a woman as a third untouchable category be considered so.
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Conflict posted...

Acceptance and dating acceptance are not the same thing

I have no idea what that means.

If acceptance encompasses the view:
"You, a transwoman, are a woman."

and nonacceptance encompasses the view:
"You, a transwoman, are not a woman."

The increasing acceptance suggests reductions in that psychological block.

Though, I have to admit, people come into these topics with a really weird definition of acceptance. Like, somehow, you can think they are delusional and not really what they identify as, while still being accepting, because you are ignoring them. "I'm accepting, they can do whatever they like, but they aren't actually women"
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Funbazooka posted...

I was an amputee from the start, I was just born in the wrong body

If there were a developmental condition that wired the brain in such a way, then your analogy would be apt. However...

You used this as a "ridiculous" example, not understanding about phantom limb syndrome one of the treatments which is more or less identical to transitioning.
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Conflict posted...

COVxy posted...

Conflict posted...

I support the stigma being gone and I support them getting accepted into society, but that's not going to magically make me attracted to them.

I mean, if it's all psychological...

Go on

I mean, should be obvious.

If it's all psychological "that's a man, can't get passed that this person was a man", then a reduction in the stigma will absolutely change that.

If physically all wheels are spinning, so to speak, then I don't see why your statement isn't silly.
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Conflict posted...

I support the stigma being gone and I support them getting accepted into society, but that's not going to magically make me attracted to them.

I mean, if it's all psychological...
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MrPeppers posted...

I have seen my fair share of transgendered patients. I've actually assisted with a hysterectomy for a FtM transgendered patient. I have read through enough current research to know that at this point in time there is lacking data to support the claim you made. Surgical transitioning is a rare enough occurrence that is now becoming more popular, and the truth of the matter is that we do not know the 5 year, 10 year, or 25 year outcomes yet.

In regards to evidence re:outcomes of transitioning, the only available systematic evidence seems overall positive.

I could imagine your attitude if there was zero evidence for no real reason, or that the only available evidence was suggestive that it wasn't helpful. But in this case the systematic studies literally just need time for those follow-ups, and current outcomes look good.
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FF_Redux posted...

bmp

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Asherlee10 posted...

Why fortunately?

Heuristics exist for a reason, they work really well, most of the time. If we didn't take shortcuts in computations, if we were maximally rational and explicit, we would be extremely inefficient, which likely was detrimental to survival.
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The big issue is that people often use psychological availability as a heuristic for determining prevelancy. So, like the actual incidents of police brutality/misconduct are likely making the prevelancy subjectively much higher, simply because they are much more salient.

I mean, mostly you are just wishing humans to be more rational, which unfortunately, and fortunately, is not how the brain works.
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eston posted...

What i find confusing is a lot of times the same people who talk about there being more than two genders are the same ones who desperately want to cram transgenders into one of the two traditional genders.

It's not confusing: you are talking about two different groups of people with two different opinions.
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SamuelHyde posted...

Doom_Art posted...

SamuelHyde posted...

that's not all that his post was about...and trenches were taught, yes, but not this information.

This info was absolutely taught to me

no it wasn't.

just own up to not reading past the title and move on.

I mean, we talked about this in my history classes in HS too. It's not abnormal.
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Allanon23 posted...

You do realize that his claims are all backed up by studies, right?

His arguments aren't really well reasoned scientific arguments. Chalk it up to being trained as an engineer and not a scientist, and some motivated reasoning.
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The Admiral posted...

So you're gonna deliberately ignore how the story is much more complicated than you're making it sound, huh?
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