Current Events > Who thinks that gender fluidity/non-binary stuff isn't utter NONSENSE?

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like... anybody at all?

it's an absolute joke... people saying that babies should decide their sex... and they shoulldn't be labelled as either male or female at birth... but should decide for themselves.
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Here here!
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I'm just going to ignore this gender garbage until I die

Yes it's ridiculous.
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I don't get it either. That's not a good reason to write it off as utter NONSENSE.
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No one says anything about sex. It's gender.
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I disrespectfully disagree. But to go a step further, I don't understand why you're going out of your way to talk about things that have little to do with you.
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You are man or woman... the only deciding factor is physical. If you want to wear a dress but have male genitals; you are a man. There is nothing wrong with this either.
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MrNintendo1213 posted...

No one says anything about sex. It's gender.

Here we go with this shit again..

I'm pretty sure most of the trans community also thinks its utter nonsense, because it completely undermines the argument for the need for surgery as a medical necessity.
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I don't get why it bothers people so much that they wanna be called whatever they wanna be called. It doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to them as such. Literally the only reason to have issues with this is being an asshole

Stop getting your gender fluids all over me
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MrNintendo1213 posted...

No one says anything about sex. It's gender.

it's nonsense either way but

swear i seen some woman with tucker carlson talking about sex labels...
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s0nicfan posted...

I'm pretty sure most of the trans community also thinks its utter nonsense, because it completely undermines the argument for the need for surgery as a medical necessity.

How? The purpose of reassignment and cosmetic surgery is as much about eliminating societal friction by being able to better pass, as it is about trans people feeling at home in the own bodies. These things have nothing to do with one another.
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Milkman5 posted...

I'm just going to ignore this gender garbage until I die

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They're snowflake terms from people looking for attention. No science supports anything about "gender fluidity" being real, and there is no reason any rational person needs to respect that or take it seriously.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

I don't get why it bothers people so much that they wanna be called whatever they wanna be called. It doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to them as such. Literally the only reason to have issues with this is being an asshole

so you think there's no legal ramifications to any of this? you've had people calling for professors to be fired over this gender neutral pronoun shit...

you're in the dark over this...

@Darklit_Minuet
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Via_Negativa posted...

swear i seen some woman with tucker carlson talking about sex labels...

Zinna Jones. I've been following that channel for years, and I still don't understand why she took that interview. She had to know what was about to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtJ4Uq_OWxg
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hollow_shrine posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

swear i seen some woman with tucker carlson talking about sex labels...

Zinna Jones. I've been following that channel for years, and I still don't understand why she took that interview. She had to know what was about to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtJ4Uq_OWxg

nah... i don't think it was that one... there was some dopey blonde psychiatrist saying babies should decide their sex.
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Via_Negativa posted...

so you think there's no legal ramifications to any of this? you've had people calling for professors to be fired over this gender neutral pronoun shit...

Said legal ramifications can be avoided by just not being a dick. If someone wants you to refer to them in a certain way, just do so.

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

so you think there's no legal ramifications to any of this? you've had people calling for professors to be fired over this gender neutral pronoun shit...

Said legal ramifications can be avoided by just not being a dick. If someone wants you to refer to them in a certain way, just do so.

you're a joke brah.... these people will be trying to get their made-up fucking gender on the census next...

it's a joke. if i ask you to refer me to as a fucking hell demon.... you'd look at me like "what the fuck?"
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

I don't get why it bothers people so much that they wanna be called whatever they wanna be called. It doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to them as such. Literally the only reason to have issues with this is being an asshole

I expect, from here on, you will call me "Your Master and Highness." That's what I want to be called, and based on the logic in your post, the only reason not to respect that would be because someone is an asshole.
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Fuck turning a blind eye to reality.

BENGHAZl posted...

Stop getting your gender fluids all over me

Das just pee.
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Pretty much everyone worthwhile agrees that gender fluidity and non binary stuff is stupid.

The issue is that people conflate these with transgender.
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The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I don't get why it bothers people so much that they wanna be called whatever they wanna be called. It doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to them as such. Literally the only reason to have issues with this is being an asshole

I expect, from here on, you will call me "Your Master and Highness." That's what I want to be called, and based on the logic in your post, the only reason not to respect that would be because someone is an asshole.

yeah... that's what i was thinking...

you can already tell he's one of those new age college types.... not a grown adult male who has lived a life...

older generations ain't on board with this goofy shit.... and if they are... they are silly.
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Kaname_Madoka posted...

I don't get it either. That's not a good reason to write it off as utter NONSENSE.

Yes.

Science and biological understanding are more than enough to accomplish that.
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bulbinking posted...

Kaname_Madoka posted...

I don't get it either. That's not a good reason to write it off as utter NONSENSE.

Yes.

Science and biological understanding are more than enough to accomplish that.

*shrug*
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Via_Negativa posted...

you're a joke brah.... these people will be trying to get their made-up fucking gender on the census next...

it's a joke. if i ask you to refer me to as a fucking hell demon.... you'd look at me like "what the fuck?"

What's the issue with their made up crap being on the census?

If you want me to refer to you as a fucking hell demon, I'll refer to you as a fucking hell demon. First off it sounds badass, second there's literally no reason for me not to do so, it doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to you as such.

The Admiral posted...

I expect, from here on, you will call me "Your Master and Highness." That's what I want to be called, and based on the logic in your post, the only reason not to respect that would be because someone is an asshole.

You're an exception because I hate your opinions on things :)

COVxy posted...

Pretty much everyone worthwhile agrees that gender fluidity and non binary stuff is stupid.

The issue is that people conflate these with transgender.

like that darklit dude? he doesn't think it's stupid... and he doesn't see the benefit in calling this ridiculous stupid shit out.
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It isn't UTTER nonsense, most of it is soft science psychology and sociology. I'm fine with whatever you want to say about separating gender from sex and all that, you can change your name and take hormones if you want to. Mangling your genitals however doesn't mean you've changed your sex to the other. Perhaps one day there will be a true sex change that actually works perfectly, but until then have fun with gender but at best you will go from one sex to being intersex only.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

you're a joke brah.... these people will be trying to get their made-up fucking gender on the census next...

it's a joke. if i ask you to refer me to as a fucking hell demon.... you'd look at me like "what the fuck?"

What's the issue with their made up crap being on the census?

If you want me to refer to you as a fucking hell demon, I'll refer to you as a fucking hell demon. First off it sounds badass, second there's literally no reason for me not to do so, it doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to you as such.

The Admiral posted...

I expect, from here on, you will call me "Your Master and Highness." That's what I want to be called, and based on the logic in your post, the only reason not to respect that would be because someone is an asshole.

You're an exception because I hate your opinions on things :)

What's the issue with them getting their made-up gender on the census? You're kidding me, right?

And you'd call me a hell demon in the workplace? what the actual fuck? you would look silly as fuck...
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

You're an exception because I hate your opinions on things :)

So long as hating people's opinions is a valid reason to disregard their feelings, we're good here. Thanks for clearing that up :)
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Via_Negativa posted...

like that darklit dude? he doesn't think it's stupid... and he doesn't see the benefit in calling this ridiculous stupid shit out.

I don't see how calling it out is a benefit. List the actual downsides of this stupidity.

I'm a very live and let live type of person - if it doesn't harm anyone else, you can do whatever the fuck you want to

The Admiral posted...

Darklit_Minuet posted...

You're an exception because I hate your opinions on things :)

So long as hating people's opinions is a valid reason to disregard their feelings, we're good here. Thanks for clearing that up :)

<3

I do appreciate arguing with you though

Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

like that darklit dude? he doesn't think it's stupid... and he doesn't see the benefit in calling this ridiculous stupid shit out.

I don't see how calling it out is a benefit. List the actual downsides of this stupidity.

I'm a very live and let live type of person - if it doesn't harm anyone else, you can do whatever the fuck you want to

It does harm other people... I've already given you examples of that. If you don't adhere to this general neutral pronoun shit, you can potentially lose your job.

What isn't getting into your head about that?

CALLING IT OUT IS A BENEFIT... BECAUSE IT'S DUMB SHIT. The same reason why we don't encourage people to believe that the earth is flat.... and we call out that unscientific nonsense cause it's nonsense.

We don't encourage dumb ideas. We call out dumb shit.
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Darklit actually calls for full acceptance and argues with people about them not wanting to fuck a trans person.

Don't let him bullshit ya.

Darklit_Minuet posted...

I don't get why it bothers people so much that they wanna be called whatever they wanna be called. It doesn't inconvenience me in any way to refer to them as such. Literally the only reason to have issues with this is being an asshole

Because legislation is making their insanity protected.
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

like that darklit dude? he doesn't think it's stupid... and he doesn't see the benefit in calling this ridiculous stupid shit out.

I don't see how calling it out is a benefit. List the actual downsides of this stupidity.

I'm a very live and let live type of person - if it doesn't harm anyone else, you can do whatever the fuck you want to

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.
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COVxy posted...

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.

It certainly doesn't help when the respected universities you always defend go along with this mentality:

https://record.umich.edu/articles/students-now-may-designate-personal-pronouns-class-rosters
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Via_Negativa posted...

It does harm other people... I've already given you examples of that. If you don't adhere to this general neutral pronoun shit, you can potentially lose your job.

Being a dick to others can lose you your job. This has always been a thing. If someone legally gets their name changed from Frank to Bob and you keep referring to them as Frank and they complain to your boss about it, the boss might fire you for not playing well with others or harassing customers.

Posting something inappropriate on facebook or twitter can lose you your job.

Arguing with a customer for any reason can lose you your job.

Donating to a certain charity can lose you your job.

Hell, the boss not liking the color of your fucking tie can lose you your job in most states.

Let me rephrase - I don't get how this is any different from any of the other thousands of bullshit things that can lose you your job

COVxy posted...

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.

It certainly doesn't help when the respected universities you always defend go along with this mentality:

https://record.umich.edu/articles/students-now-may-designate-personal-pronouns-class-rosters

And, as expected, some students did not delay in making a mockery of this policy:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/30/michigan-student-successfully-changes-preferred-pronoun-to-his-majesty-on-class-roster.html
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This is the problem with today's generation...

This @Darklit_Minuet dude doesn't understand why it would be a problem for made-up shit to be on the census...

PEOPLE TODAY LACK CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.
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interesting topic
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Darklit_Minuet posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

It does harm other people... I've already given you examples of that. If you don't adhere to this general neutral pronoun shit, you can potentially lose your job.

Being a dick to others can lose you your job. This has always been a thing. If someone legally gets their name changed from Frank to Bob and you keep referring to them as Frank and they complain to your boss about it, the boss might fire you for not playing well with others or harassing customers.

Posting something inappropriate on facebook or twitter can lose you your job.

Arguing with a customer for any reason can lose you your job.

Donating to a certain charity can lose you your job.

Hell, the boss not liking the color of your fucking tie can lose you your job in most states.

Let me rephrase - I don't get how this is any different from any of the other thousands of bullshit things that can lose you your job

I'm sorry... you are just... not smart AT ALL

how are you comparing names to some made-up hippy-dippy bullshit?
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Via_Negativa posted...

people saying that babies should decide their sex

lol do you think they mean "babies, while young, should consciously decide something as complicated as sex and gender" and not "the baby feels how it feels."
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The Admiral posted...

COVxy posted...

More or less by acknowledging conditions that are almost certainly "snowflakey" as equally valid, you are muddying the waters and hurting the cause for actually valid conditions. It's the reason people still think transgendered people are delusional or making it up on a whim.

It certainly doesn't help when the respected universities you always defend go along with this mentality:

https://record.umich.edu/articles/students-now-may-designate-personal-pronouns-class-rosters

So is Facebook, and pretty much every institution heavily involved with young people simply because that's how PR departments work.

The university as an institution, you realize, has very little to do with those actually at the institution.
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chi_cab posted...

Via_Negativa posted...

people saying that babies should decide their sex

lol do you think they mean "babies, while young, should consciously decide something as complicated as sex and gender" and not "the baby feels how it feels."

A female baby can't suddenly decide to have a penis and be a man.... brah

dunno if you know this... we're talking about babies not being labelled as male/female at birth... instead they should grow up and decide...

that is dumb shit... and these dumb ideas are being floated... SERIOUSLY
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Megaman50100 posted...

I'm fine with whatever you want to say about separating gender from sex and all that, you can change your name and take hormones if you want to. Mangling your genitals however doesn't mean you've changed your sex to the other. Perhaps one day there will be a true sex change that actually works perfectly, but until then have fun with gender but at best you will go from one sex to being intersex only.

This.

People sometimes say I am transphobic for saying you are either a male or female.

I just believe in consistent, observation-based labels.

When we can use gene therapy to literally change our chomosomes (if that will ever happen) THEN you can claim to be a real woman/man after the procedure.

Until then we cant play god (yet) and any attempt to try will force us to live in hell (surrounded by sue happy emotionally unbalanced individuals who may or may not be dressing up as a fetish and not actually being a transperson)

Freedom of personal expression does NOT extend to the general public or community settings. Call yourself whatever you want online or at home or around friends, but when you start trying to change fact-based (I said the word!!!) scientific literature thats when I start wondering if the conservatives have it right to be labeled as a mental illness to by stopped instead of a condition to be worked around as we currently see it.

Transitioning isnt even effective at preventing suicide, either! But ive already ranted too long. Ive been in this mire since the mid 2000's when this stuff started showing up with heavy support online.
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can't believe there's actually people in this thread defending that hippy-dippy bullshit or attempting to advocate for it...

lmao...
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