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Leafeon13N posted...

Taking FD off the board was part of solving the game if we didn't have double modkills it was over. If you win this game its going to be on a technicality. I wouldn't brag much.

If I win this game its taking a miracle not a technicality dude.

Leafeon13N posted...

Wallz you are literally confirmed scum sit down. I appreciate the attempt but lol.

Dont worry, I saved a slice of humble pie from the massive amount I ate during sultans Gamefaqs mafia. If youre also town, I will be ready to share during postgame.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Of those 4 I mentioned the most likely scum is Wall (changing a claim this late is just awful but that goes without saying). The most important one to lynch is Red, because most of you are cowards who dont lynch him unless you have permission from someone on his level. Death and ctes are mainly role meta and PoE this game having like no vanillas is the biggest reason I trust BCT and Sheep.

I realize you dont know Im town yet, but do you really think I shouldve claimed that when we massed? People didnt need to know more than I was bg.

Yes red because your last very simple day went so well.

Ulti is obviously town the same way sbell was obviously scum to me. If ulti is scum its by far the best Ive seen him play as scum. And I would rather my contributions be ??? than single-handedly led the worst mislynch of the game

BlueCrystalTear posted...
Unless this specifies killing actions only.

Yeah, its only killing.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

The question is: Which flip tells us the most info?

The rest of your post is good stuff, but respectfully, this is not a good approach at what is probably MyLo. Town should kill whoever they think is most likely scum. Sucks if its me, but that is just a fact. Gotta go for the highest chance of killing scum, not info gathering in hail mary hopes we can afford another mislynch.

Everyone will see sooner or later Im being truthful. I dont know Blade. Ulti, if you dont think Blade would give town a kill that can backfire in any way, sure. I didnt think it was too negative towards town because what are the odds a town player is going to kill the same player I chose to protect out of everyone, if that makes sense.

*if someone targets my bg recipient

I realize we are probably going to end the game on my mislynch, which hooray! However, let me just say the mass claim actually screwed town over for a change. Since I was roleblocked for a second night in a row, and clearly scum has no intention of night killing me since Im the most appealing mislynch, let me share my full role so whoever is town can have the full picture when thinking about game balance.

I am Mr. T, Super Elite Bodyguard. I work the same as a regular bodyguard with two differences. One, if I successfully bg someone it lasts through the night and the following day. Two, if someone kills my bg recipient, they die as well. I would most likely be an extra kill for town, but if say red is indeed town and I bgd plum, me and red would both die when red shoots plum. I wanted to hold onto that info but now that theres no one else it makes sense for scum to ever roleblock besides me, I think its worth town knowing.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Can someone walk me through Deaths role and/or Chang having the guilty scan on Wall yesterday? Wall claimed blocked but Chang saw him move and visit the neighborhood, correct?

Also I really shouldnt be playing while driving, bbl. And god help you people if you fucking mislynch me at mylo again. Im still pissed off at SBell for that shit when Corrik and I had it solved.

IGCD falsely claimed to have a result saying I can communicate with boards outside the game. because I am bodyguard everyone immediately leaned towards believing I was scum. However, IGCDs flip revealed his night action result to be fabricated as I asserted all along because Im town and it was highly annoying. He lied for reasons?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Also I voted FD because he was frustrating the crap out of me, but I won't go any further than that.

Wall is scum.

And no, not because he listed me. But because he thinks Red and SBell could coexist on a scum team.

Why could they not coexist on a scum team?

BCT, you may be town but the reasons I listed on prior days are valid reasons to question you. However, I am now convinced ulti is town and he is convinced youre town. Sultan says your town. Im not all knowing so Im just gonna shut up and hope youre town. With any luck youll realize Im town too.

If I were king Id probably vote out ctes today.

Heres my take on things: this feels like town ulti to me and now confirmed town Chang believed very strongly that this is town ulti. I would town clear ulti. Sheep makes me a bit nervous because prior to this game hes played extremely well as scum replacing in about 3-4 times in a row now, but I am trying to get there in seeing sheep as town, it feels more likely.

Death is probably town, his role would be really weird as scum, but its not impossible.

I need to read back on some stuff. Theoretically, that leaves BCT, ctes and red as remaining scum.

Sheep007 posted...

I woke up to pee and remembered this might be up. I used an ability granted to me by Death last night. Isquen can confirm in DTC that he jailkept me.

##Vote: Wallz
##Vote: Wallz
##Unvote

So you claim to have been jailkept, but you supposedly kept your ability, and it looks like you used it here despite claiming to be jailkept?

BCT, what are your thoughts on all the remaining players? Earlier you mentioned wanting to find someone who 100% believed you were town so you could solve the game together

What is your take on the remaining players?

Town still has a chance to win this game, kind of like how I still have a chance to make enough money to impress my father in law.

If its MyLo, and almost assuredly is, we have to lynch scum every day from here on out or its game over. No pressure or anything.

BCT, I need to ask you something.

No one vote.

IGCD, how exactly does the semi capable backup part work? Does it refer to not being fully reliable? Because if youre serious, I assure youre wrong.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

care to explain why you can speak to other boards as a bodyguard?

Either 1) youre fishing for info or 2) hoping to 1:1 with me, but I am not able to speak with any other board.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

My bad. Thanks for clearing it up.

No problem dude it was a very active d3

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I'd hope he wasn't the one to do that. Since when does scum shoot a bodyguard?

I assume he wouldve done it in an attempt to stop the night kill, ironically.

Since I got RB'd N2, I am apt to believe that we do have a scum RB. I don't know if they picked me because............................. wait a minute maybe they knew I had some kind of power??? Which would mean........ I don't wanna believe that right now.

I dont follow this at all man.

BCT, why do you think Im town now?

Red claimed he got a new shot until he shot town. If he is being truthful, that was his last shot when he killed town plum.

Isquen is gonna be beating himself up in dtc if hes the one who RBd me =)

I tried to bodyguard Isquen but was roleblocked.

I still am not liking peafs vibes. Peaf, you need to tell us when you plan on using your ability.

##Vote: Peaf

I agree peaf seems to be stalling using his claimed role when if true it has a chance of helping town and for someone who told us to play solely on vibes in the beginning hes not passing the vibe check today at all.

Im not convinced FD is definitely town but why would he risk being seen leaving the neighborhood by Chang before he knew the true nature of Changs role, unless FD and Chang are scum together which I doubt.

Following along with Changs I see everything in my neighborhood comment, Chang, when did you claim to tell FD you got a gift and didnt actually see everything? Or did you never leave FD with that impression in your neighbor chat?

Cool

I have not gotten a pm about either night action so far, so I assumed they were successful.

Sorry I guess that first paragraph was never in doubt according to BCTs claim because regardless of alignment BCT said the attempt to use his gift failed and he was specifically told he RBd.

Im still baffled by BCT claiming to be roleblocked. I did not get an error message so my n2 BG of IGCD was successful. Vanilla claim BCT had to have been RBd directly.

Didnt chang only admit to it being a one time watcher gift during d3? If so, if scum wanted to take out a neighbor and both Chang + FD are town, wouldnt they be far more likely to block Chang n2 if they were trying to kill FD? I believe by the time n2 started, Chang had not clarified yet. Makes it seem less likely the goal was killing FD.

Thats fair, but still its weird coming from the only vanilla claim. If anything I found it interesting FD didnt comment on that despite being very suspicious of me also being a Mr.

Ive been waiting to see if anyone was going to comment on BCT saying his flavor is Zuul, which the only Zuul I know is the villain from Ghostbusters. Would scum BCT openly claim his flavor? Admittedly, it doesnt seem as likely. But then again Ulti won as Thanos

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I hadn't played mafia in ages before Ulti mafia.

I literally have not been scum in years.

There is not one. Red's faded memory of my ancient scum games are all he has and I don't approach mafia the same way I used to. I certainly don't have the kind of spare time I used to have.

So you are claiming you wouldnt try this hard to survive as scum, but as wrongly accused town youll supposedly find more time to fight to stay alive? not sure how I feel about that

Isquen posted...

Oh, the one where you survived longer than me and the entire dead town chat was thinking you were going to throw until red solved the game for you?

I didnt survive longer than you, I was dead but could still talk. I didnt have a vote but yes, red played well at the end. It was crescent deciding between red and Lea, and scum Lea gave herself up.

Not sure how thats relevant to my point, which is youve been relentlessly loud wrong about me before same way I was about red. Last time we played together. Its fine for anyone to think Im scum, you included, even though theyd be wrong, but best to not build your whole world view around it.

Isquen, if youre town, do you remember the last game we played together where you were very adamant about thinking I was scum? You didnt really focus on anyone else and you were pivotal to getting me lynched. And do you remember my flip?

https://x.com/mikegarafolo/status/1712469216471953882?s=42&t=fxehLIK9_9kgocxXX3Z48g

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1712469650536337590?s=42&t=fxehLIK9_9kgocxXX3Z48g

And it makes sense too, because from my understanding you three neighbors dont/didnt have a power, whereas I do.

I am town. Im guessing when he created the game Blade decided to do the Mr naming convention for the neighbors first, thought of multiple characters he liked and still wanted to use Mr. T even though I didnt make the cut to be a neighbor.

PeaceFrog posted...

I thought you were alluding to the fact that the bp one use protection doesn't make any sense, and Ulti's play hasn't either

Ulti does a lot of nonsensical stuff as town sometimes, like a few games ago (I think it was smash bros?) with the fish and clairvoyant beetles and I forget. His claim changed like every day and he was town. The biggest knock on ulti for me is the timing of his comment saying I never actually tunnel scum, when I was making the case against sbell. And then his weird short lived stress test of bct.

I would rather lynch BCT than Ulti, but if BCT flips scum, it would look a fair bit worse for ulti.

I have no idea what youre thinking to be honest. In the words of Michael Scott, explain it to me like Im five

Sheep007 posted...

Yes, essentially. Which is making me a little less confident that Wallz is scum because otherwise protection seems a little sparse for the amount of roles we know exist that either kill or interact with kills.

If youre town, youre so close =)

So BCT is the only current vanilla claim then. Ultis claim is kind of a mess but I dont think ulti lies about being a power role when were trying to figure out if there are vanillas in this game. Maybe Lea was vanilla ok but then we have, at most, two vanillas.

Should we lynch someone solely because of that alone, no. But theres a lot of smoke, and I think theres probably fire too

Wallz - I think Wallz fits into the scumteam we know so far judging by the interactions with him. We don't have too much protection, but bodyguard also can't prevent kills so it's not a big difference anyway.

Preventing one kill counts for something, even though yes I do die instead.

Whats the big deal with claiming vanilla. All but two players claimed. Better to leave scum guessing! If you and ctes are even town, scum already has plenty of possible targets.

Sheep007 posted...

Ah, I mean I don't think Ctes feels the need to claim Vanilla here to defend BCT. Not a ton of value in it imo.

Weird post. Why assume hes going to claim vanilla. And if BCT is possibly lying about being vanilla and we can lynch scum, theres plenty of value in that.

If ctes is vanilla he should claim now. Sheep you obviously arent claiming to be vanilla.

BCT claimed vanilla very early on, like joke phase early. First he posted he was vanilla again and then corrected/corrected himself to say town again

BlueCrystalTear posted... (4.002)

Okay, so I found something interesting in my mailbox last night. Well leave it at that, seeing as what it was does not matter since it was roleblocked. Not sure why scum would roleblock someone who doesn't have a role tbh.

BCT starts off saying he couldnt use his gift and suggests the roleblock is the result of scum directly. Am I just being dumb here or does this not add up?

Despite his horrible rationale voting me because I have Mr. in my flavor, it feels to me like FD is genuine in his frustration and pleas that hes town. Red said this is in scum FDs wheelhouse, but I have only played one game with FD before this and he was town, so I would have to take reds word for that. Which its not so much thinking OMG red has to be scum but theres plenty of possibilities, including red wanting a town FD gone or a town red simply being wrong. Id rather go another direction.

BCTs post comparing himself to sbell was really bad imo. If we were going off vibes, hed be my pick. I recognize the common sense of why would scum rb scum but the whole situation feels off to me, including BCTs initial post of the day seeming contradictory, like (if memory serves) where BCT said he got something but he wasnt able to use it. He later said he got to use it. Maybe Im just failing to see through the brain fog here but I am still suspicious.

Someone refresh my memory on why the BCT roleblock supposedly cant explain the lack of a second kill last night

I followed that. But BCT is still claiming vanilla. If hes being truthful, hes a vanilla who was gifted a night action. And Ulti is saying he thinks the game has no vanillas.

Did BCT walk back his vanilla claim and Im forgetting? My fam got hit hard with the flu or some nasty virus so its taking me willpower just to move and might just be missing something.

The reason I ask, is if BCT is still sticking to his vanilla claim Ulti, why do you think this game might have no vanillas? You claim to think BCT is town. Doesnt feel like this adds up. Youd have to know (or assume, but like why) BCT is not actually vanilla.

To be clear Im not calling for ctes to be lynched today. Im just skeptical of him and think he deserves more scrutiny in the coming days. I am not a fan of ctes and sheep being reluctant to claim either. If youre Corrik, ok, not reading into it. But otherwise, not a fan.