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WazzupGenius00 posted...

After playing through the FDS version the eight times necessary to unlock Worlds A-D I think I unironically like Lost Levels more than SMW

This sounds like Stockholm syndrome

Ctes is tag. Sorry I deciphered your secret message

##vote: ctes

Ill have to answer that after I play them!

Xtlm posted...

2 is the best IMO and I don't care what anyone says.

the unusual rankings are the interesting ones!

Unmarked spoilers for the games below.

Inspired by the recent poll of the day. All the 2D games which came out before Super Mario 64. Excluding SMW2: Yoshis Island here because despite what Nintendo says, I dont consider it mainline and *whispers* its a Yoshi game.

7) Super Mario Land (1989, Game Boy)

We have Mario at home. OK I can respect it was a launch title for the Game Boy but why did it have to feel like a Mario knockoff rather than a Mario game? Probably because its the first game in the series not to be developed by Shigeru Miyamoto and Nintendos EAD division. Its not actually bad, and it did introduce Daisy. It has 12 adequate levels filled with not koopa troopas and not fire flowers and not as much fun as the other games. Its freaking Mario, the bar is set sky high. This game is alright. The SML games were originally not considered mainline by Nintendo and hmm this is the only mainline game before Sunshine not available on Nintendo Switch Online. Almost like Nintendo knows its the worst too.

6) Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels (1988, Famicom Disk System)

Has enough SMB in its DNA to be a good game even when its so frustrating. Sometimes its hard, sometimes its just plain cheap, and at times that leads to committing the cardinal sin the game isnt always fun. They made the right decision not bringing this over to the NA region because it does feel like its punishing the player at times. Playing this the intended way where your only checkpoints come when you make it to a new world certainly means you feel elated when you clear each x-4 level but the irritation often outweighs the delight. Still its Mario. Whoever decided to lock the bonus worlds behind beating the game 8 times needs to be chain chomped.

5) Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins (1992, Game Boy)

This game is really good. Its laughable how much it outclasses the original SML in every conceivable way. Its not a long game obviously but it has nearly triple the levels of SML, secret exits, and Bunny Mario. Bringing back SMLs big bad Tatanga as a world boss was an inspired choice, and Wario is a fun final villain in his debut.

4) Super Mario Bros. 2/USA (1988, NES)

The weirdest classic 2D Super Mario game. Plucking vegetables, the vertical scrolling, the non-standard enemies. Freaking Birdo. This game had to grow on me, but it certainly did and Im glad its part of the mainline Mario games. It cant touch the best of the classic games imo but you gotta respect what it does well four playable characters and the best bosses of the original games (there I said it, sorry koopalings). This game is possibly underrated because of the games above it on this ranking. Only beaten it on a Mario-only playthrough and I hope to beat it as all characters one day. Phanto scared me as a child =(

3) Super Mario Bros. (1986, NES)

First game I ever played. Immensely influential, a genuine masterpiece a 10/10. Every time I revisit this game Im blown away by how tight the controls are, its incredible how good movement feels. And of course the classic enemies, iconic OST and brilliant level design just work together to create something special. Its no wonder this was the game responsible for turning Mario into a tremendously popular franchise.

2) Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988, NES)

ITS SMB3. One of two valid choices imo for best of the classic 2D Super Mario games. The power-ups, the worlds and levels, everything is just cranked up to 11. I could brag on this game for paragraphs but it is perfection, no notes.

1) Super Mario World (1990, SNES)

I never owned an SNES and I beat this game for the first time in 2023 via Nintendo Switch Online. This is the ultimate classic 2D Mario platformer. Leveraging the new (at the time) technology of the SNES, Nintendo made a feast for the eyes and ears. World is constantly a joy to look at, listen to and play. Despite playing a ton of SMB3 growing up and no World, not even nostalgia goggles can keep me from recognizing the sheer delight of this game. Yoshi and the feather make things a lot of fun, though I wonder if Id put this game below 3 if I lacked the self control needed to avoid just flying through every level without really engaging. Oh yeah and they named an enemy after Trent Reznor thats pretty sweet. Insanely great game and one I regret not playing fully sooner. Great example of the joy video games can provide.

UltimaterializerX posted...

You cant find one?

Nah I know theyre plentiful I just havent forked over the cash to buy one. Heh. Im playing my way through the mainline games (finished Super Mario Land 2 and started Super Mario 64 today) so the next Mario game I buy will probably be NSMB for DS since thats the oldest one I dont have. I dont want to further detail this sign up thread but am always down for Mario talk

You got a coupon and its only redeemable there?

oh Im tagging this

The #1 slot is up for grabs if anyone has a physical copy of SMB Wonder to spare

or just no strings attached if you want to be #1 lol

Change it to Garyethan

The words said everyone who signs up before Halloween gets a bulletproof vest except for sbell

Oh no sorry to hear about the unemployment jc :\

but glad to hear youre playing

theawesomestevr posted...

Looks like Carr has gotten hit in the junk multiple times in the 4th quarter.

As a Jags fan I feel like I got hit in the junk multiple times in the 4th quarter

Im gonna play even though Im already confirmed scum

Its the second game since I started following along where sbell died n1 as scum. Poor guy, I dont think anyone has exceeded two n1 deaths as town in the same timeframe.

Anyone else realize Dead by Daylight usually describes sbell regardless of alignment

Sheep007 posted...
I also think I probably woulda lynched Wallz that day over Ctes regardless, I think Wallz looked poor earlygame as well

Just for my own improvement, how so?

Jokes on you coupon fell out of my pocket in the parking lot

Great job Death!

the reviews pretty unanimously saying its on par with SMB3/SMW and clearly better than the NSMB games. I hope thats true

youre an absolute legend sballen

How did dominating the Colts get Jags demoted from sb contenders to almost sb contenders

and barely beating the Giants has Buffalo, who lost to Jags, still in sb contenders lol

Amazing job dude! You should be very proud, I know we all are. Thats excellent.

You seem a little antsy death

I doubt anyone changes their mind here but you guys realize ctes is probably scum rb right?

If we lynch ctes first and hes scum rb, I could use my bg tonight. If I guess right, I self resolve, which doesnt even matter at that point because I would kill what is apparently the last scum. Scum could go the scaredy cat route and kill me directly, but then we save a mislynch.

Worst case scenario I guess the nk wrong and everyone can just lynch me tomorrow anyway.

Grand theft auto-renewing subscription

UltimaterializerX posted...

Sheep literally mathematically cannot be scum.

Ulti if youre town dont forget this is wrong if the game continues after my flip.

BCTs flavor is Zuul.

Im ready to join the fun in dtc if game doesnt end. Lets go ahead and call it

##Unvote
##Vote: Wallz

red13n posted...

That really isn't how this community works at all. You complain a lot but your understanding is still small.

I do complain a lot particularly this game lol. Ill own it. Ive been part of plenty of bad mislynches too. But what I said feels true of my limited sample size

Sheep007 posted...

It kinda is. I can't be on a three person scumteam, you can. Wallz is saying with 100% certainty that it's a two person scumteam by voting me.

Rest assured I will rally your good name and bring down Ctes with haste tomorrow should this be a mislynch, Wallz.

That would require this not being MyLo. Know something we dont?

Killing ctes and sheep here was obvious. No complaints allowed about the modkills in postgame, town earned the big fat L heading our way. Peace.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/1/AARMM-AAE8GV.jpg

Writing is on the wall, Im out for the day. Hopefully theres three scum left so this game will end after my mislynch and we as town will all learn a lot, so much, Im sure. Like we did when we didnt lynch Leas puppet or when we did lynch Lea the bodyguard or we wrongly lynched death the bodyguard

Lets face it no shame in being next in the long line. Damn near poetic for town to lose on a bg mislynch. Gg scum. May see yall next game.

red13n posted...

But the first 3 should all consider themselves in dire peril and I don't quite compute why people don't have much of a fight response. Alignment be damned.

Its not hard to compute. This group doesnt ever change course from stupid mislynches even after 100+ games of mafia played. I am giving solid reasoning and we both know not everyone gives a shit, especially when Im confirmed scum for things like having Mr. in my role, stopping tunneling sbell when no one else besides me and peaf cared, and saying if I win instead of if we win which lol wtf theres multiple people on both alignment anyway and I was responding to a post talking about me specifically.

I couldve posted nothing or 100 times and nothing will change short of a host note confirming my innocence. Ill flip town, town will go oh wow and move on having learned nothing.

htaeD posted...

Because he wanted to give the claimed BG a chance to do something?

You are giving a good reason why Isquen might not rb me. If he thought I was being truthful which he did not. Second game in a row Isquen was wrongly up my ass, yippee.

What we need to ask is how could sheep know with 100% confidence Isquen was rb him instead of me. Because of Isquens suspicion of me, it makes no sense.

death that is basically saying sheep knew Isquen RBd him because there is no chance Isquen jailkept his biggest scum read

Look whats sheep going to say here? Yes Im scum? Its a fine backpedal attempt by him now but it makes z-e-r-o sense for him to say Isquen RBd him. All we know for sure is sheep isnt the scum rb because I was also roleblocked that night.

Isquen voted me nearly every time the entire game. He said he would vote me 3 times if he could lol

Why the hell would he not jailkeep his biggest scum read to try preventing a nk?

htaeD posted...

Acually

This is a weird thing to say for someone who supposedly got roleblocked that same night
Plus, yaknow, both BCT claimed to have been blocked by someone that could not have been Isquen/Abacus

What are you on about death? I said we had not had a scum rb flip. So if sheep is town why would he speak so confidently that Isquen definitely RBd him.

red13n posted...

wallz - should be utli/ctes/sheep (BCT/ctes/red ???)

I have said ctes + sheep most recently.

Sheep007 posted...

I woke up to pee and remembered this might be up. I used an ability granted to me by Death last night. Isquen can confirm in DTC that he jailkept me.

##Vote: Wallz
##Vote: Wallz
##Unvote

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Then let me ask you this: How do you know it was Isquen who RB'd (jailkept) you and not scum?

Sheep007 posted...

I assume jailkeeping the vanilla claim to try and stop them killing is more likely than scum thinking I was power?

Although actually, assuming Wallz is scum I was probably the scum target last night.

Why didnt this have alarm bells going off for any of us when BCT asked this? Great catch by BCT and odds are high its a scum slip. We have had no roleblocker flip and sheeps first post of the day is knowing he was jailkept by Isquen. Sheep said it with full confidence - Isquen can confirm

Red, if you had to lynch either ctes or sheep which one would you pick and why?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

But you need to actually throw something out there that the rest of us are missing. Give us evidence. You can't just say that myself (I'm town), Ctes, and Red are the remaining scum without actually going back and corroborating it.

If I had evidence Id be sharing it. I am feeling 80-90% certain about ctes being scum, and less clear after that, but sheep feels scummy today.

This is exactly what happened, and we really need to stop concerning ourselves with that. It's been put to rest ever since I explained what Crescent said in response to my queries. FD not understanding how I was told this worked wasted more than enough time already.

I apologize. Ironic I was giving red a hard time about not reading. It doesnt give me a pass but I did read every post, I just didnt come away with the right conclusion. Me and my family have been very sick for close to a week now and the brain fog is real. Sorry again. I can be better too

Ok, then this isnt reason for death and BCT to be concerns. Wallz is town. Ulti seems to be town. Ctes, almost definitely scum. Sheep cant be scum with three scum remaining. Red has to be town unless he killed sbell in a crazy scum gambit. No one besides me and peaf were even looking at sbell.

4 scum in an 18 player game seems mighty low but pretty sure thats what we had for sbells Star Trek, and one of them (Han) was a traitor role so the others thought they were 3/18.

Current guess. Ctes + sheep. Sheeps heavy focus on wanting BCTs buy in and if you re-read this thread, lots of posts about wanting to lynch me early on. I think sheep was eager to get the next mislynch off before anyone stopped and thought long enough to reconsider my alignment which is a worst case scenario for scum.

Sheep is also very adamant about red being town and wanting to lynch ctes after me which gives me some mixed feelings but we know for sure ctes, sheep and red arent scum together due to the double vote. Ctes also commented on a couple of sheeps recent posts giving bad vibes which my guess is its bussing

I thought BCT said his item failed.

red13n posted...

What do you want to do with the days anyway wallz?

I would lynch ctes today. I am best at reading people Ive been scum with before and he was my scummate last game in ulti mafia.

Best way to tell on ctes is what he chooses to comment on and his post style. As scum he tends to be analytical and ask less direct questions of people. This game his posts are more observations and not really making definitive statements.

Assuming im right and we live to see another day, from there Id try to better understand what happened with BCT being roleblocked. To me it probably suggests one of them being scum, unless theres somehow only one scum left after ctes, provided ctes is scum. Then I think its sheep.

Sheep007 posted...

I mean, I do think it's worth considering all possibilities here. If I wasn't very comfortable reading both Red and Death and their roles backed that up I would be considering it a lot more. As things stand, the evidence in their favour is far too great and if I get the numbers game horribly wrong so be it, I've been wrong before and I definitely will again, and this was a game I replaced into specifically so that it would continue to run, not because I had the time to play up to my own standards.

Anyway, BCT, I am not 100% certain on: I think it'd take something crazy for him to be Scum, but the possibilities are slim. I'll ask you now: who do you think is scum out of BCT, Death, and Red. And why? I can't promise I will agree but I'll certainly listen to anything you have to say.

If its somehow two scum remaining which does seem a bit too uneven, easily you and ctes are my picks. Ctes is my strongest scum read remaining.

Of those three, I guess Id go with death only because BCT being roleblocked as a claimed vanilla with abacus/Isquen still alive made no sense. But that doesnt feel totally right either.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Your only out for your team is casting doubt on confirmed town, so I respect the hustle at least.

Assuming youre town, which I still lean, just try to remember this and learn from it next time. Thanks

htaeD posted...

I am about to go to sleep, but I am willing to let you answer some stuff Wallz

What did you mean with that post you made in topic4?
I quoted it a page back in post # 146

At first I thought abacus/Isquen slot was almost definitely scum due to abacus first post. In my post you quoted I had just realized that me and abacus/Isquen would make a lot more sense as protection than me and say, a standard doctor role. The game set up perspective was the first thing to make me seriously think abaquen could be town

Leafeon13N posted...

Wallz, i say this in the nicest way. I don't care about your feelings in mafia.

The second you start feeling wronged or whatever personaly for how people approach a game is the second you have put too much emotionally investments in a game.

I didnt ask anyone to concern themselves with my feelings. I asked everyone to start reading, clearly you still arent.

You are good at mafia. It feels like you dont read every post, at least not fully, and you could be even better if you changed that.

FD poured his heart and soul into trying to talk everyone out of his mislynch and his efforts were in vain. I dont mean this as harshly as it sounds but Im not casting my pearls before swine here. Clearly Im getting mislynched. I just want to leave my two cents because Im not sure I care to hang around for postgame.

This community throws the word confirmed around far too loosely. As town we should be double checking and questioning ourselves are we sure theres no other explanation, are we really positive about something not taking knee jerk reactions and holding onto them as gospel truth for an entire game. We should not read posts from some players and not posts from others. We should also not take one unknown as absolute truth and build our entire view of the game around it.

If you have ever heard of the experiment of the rat who could press a button to orgasm, and so he pressed the button repeatedly until he died, I feel like some players here are the rat, and latching onto one little thing and assigning it meaning is pressing the button. You do it until you die. An old boss described some people as often wrong, never uncertain. I dont think anyone here is never uncertain but the sentiment remains.

There are enough people left alive acting in a less than winning fashion. They cant all be scum. Dont care that Ive played about 10 games and some of you have played 10+ years, clearly a simple lesson to be learned here.

Good game scum. Some good individual play here, in some cases tbd. To those who have solved my being scum, I leave you to resume standing around in the Star Wars trash compactor sniffing your own farts.

Either red is scum/3p faking dumb, or otherwise I guess he doesnt need to read the posts by lesser tier players or checks notes co-hosts

*30 second fart noise*

time to turn 360 degrees and walk away from this thread